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Gravatar Alucard's problem was that he didn't have a parent, merely an excuse maker.

-G


Gravatar Yup- I had his evil twin in therapy for a while. Mainly because his mother wanted me to explain to the school administration and teachers that her son was too intelligent and they weren't sufficiently challenging him or fully appreciating his potential. That was why he whammed a duck to death in the school yard with a rock, set fires, bit the other kids. I had exactly 3 appointments with this child when I told his mother that I could not help her or her son. For all three of those appointments I was getting the worst mojo I've ever gotten, before or since, in 30 years of practice. I was pregnant at the time and told myself I could NOT have those vibes around my unborn child. He ended up with a life sentence to prison 11 years later after years of juvenile court encounters. So- do we believe in the bad seed theory? Or do we say poor Alucard and poor my patient? Maybe both.


Gravatar I agree. His mother was LARGELY at fault. She not only allowed his unacceptable (and that's putting it lightly) behavior, but she paved the way for it to happen. Whatever Alucard's problems were, she let them go untreated.

These children *do* need to be set straight, and if it takes the police to do it, then that's what it takes. We can't put other children at risk to save one disruptive child's self esteem. You can't take away the teacher's authority so one child can have the same privelages as everyone else. (Privelages have to be earned, remember.)

I use to work for a before-and-after school program. I ran the program in one of the local elementary schools. I had one child that was so disruptive and violent - he would bite and hit the other children, often completely unprevoked. I wasn't allowed to physically restrain him, and you can't make a child sit and listen to you if they have it in their head that they don't have to. His parents both worked long hours. He was dropped off with me the minute I opened - I sent him off to school, and he was back with me after school, often until the last possible minute.

I was the one who had to face these other parents, and tell them their child was hurt while in my care. I was given no resources or support in dealing with the child. I dreaded seeing him each day. The school dreaded him as well. The parents were too busy with their lives to worry about him, and figured the school and I could do that. It isn't right. At some point, you have to "lay down the law", and unfortunately with some kids, it takes extreme measures.

(Please excuse my horrible spelling, and forgive me for taking over your comments section!


Gravatar I've been there and don't understand how a child can get away with that kind of behavior.(excuses by parents really send me over the edge!) If he's that terrible at school, how must he be at home? The mom would be stupid not to be afraid of him as well.


Gravatar Mamacita as usual you rock. I've had to sit by those kids and it's not fair, it's just not fair. Also I have a scar on my face from a kid's fingernails when she blew up over not getting her own way in our class once. Why couldn't my teachers have all been like you? You really do know how it is, don't you.


Gravatar (singing slightly off-key)...have I toooold you lately...that I love you?

Mamacita, you just received a standing ovation. (No, trust me. It wasn't for my singing!)


Gravatar First...alucarD and mucS...funny, funny...

I'm behind you 1000000% on this one. Perhaps it isn't always LEARNED behavior, but it's usually ACCEPTED behavior. Let 'em get away with it, and you're setting yourself up.


Gravatar Wow! Did you ever find out what was wrong with this child? I've taught similar kids, and it boiled down to choosing between the education of the other students, or the discipline of "Alucard". I have scars on one arm from a student biting me.


Gravatar I was hoping no one else but clever little me got your name thing.

I've heard garlic works really great in cases like this. But the cross thing? Depends on the religion of the family in question.



Gravatar I'm still not sure of the whole nature/nurture thing; I know some perfectly reasonable parents with some very difficult children, and some colossal dinks who've produced some quite nice kids, but I do know that children must be taught that actions have consequences (as overused as that word is.)


Gravatar My wife teaches kindergarten, and she'll be applauding when I show her your entry.

Bloodsucker's bottom-dwelling mother was nothing more than an enabler. The kid needed structure and discipline, and I sincerely hope he got it once "The System" kicked in. I doubt it, but one can always hope.

Thank you for sharing the teacher's perspective. That's too often overlooked during supposedly enlightened public debate on education.


Gravatar Ahem. I was an Alucard. I can testify that it was me, only me, and purely my nature. The difference is that my parents enforced strict discipline, so I was able to control myself by the time I got to kindergarten. It was a long hard battle. I remember fighting to control myself and losing the battle.

I know what my problem was. I got mad. Really mad. I couldn't stand to be told no. It just seemed totally unfair; the entire world was filled with giant oppressive people brutally and outrageously preventing me from running in front of cars, chewing telephone cords and not letting me play with fire.

I used to beat myself up - I got that angry. I still remember the rage I felt. I am so thankful my parents were disciplinarians, because otherwise I too moight well have ended up in jail.


Gravatar We've got some Alucard's at our school too. It is scary when it takes 4 adults to carry a raging 5 year old down the hall.

The other scary thing is that takes an act of God or Congress to get these kids out of the classroom.

One out of control kid has more "rights" than their 19 classmates. Something is wonky out there.


Gravatar Story well told. Get that published and maybe some Mucs will recognise herself or at least someone with a KD Alucard might have more data to work with.

Is is my memory or have you got a new template Mamacita?


Gravatar Very sad and scary that grown ups get to mold a human being, and this is what some of them do with their gift. mucS should be in the pokey right alongside her adorable son. In the same cell.


Gravatar This is a huge a problem in the United States. Bullies are not being disciplined. Many children are scared to go to public schools. In many ways children are being sentenced to prison went they are sent to such a horrible environment. I was beat up once in my K to 12 years. For some children it has become a daily or weekly event. No wonder so many people are turning to homeschooling.


Gravatar My nephew was bullied every day at school by a class mate. It only stopped when my sister pressed criminal charges against the bully when he choked my nephew so hard he left bruises. The police took that kid away in handcuffs. Next week, he was in another school. Some times the best thing to do is to get parents to file charges. Sad, but true.


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