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Hahah the resemblance is scary isnt it...
Poor Jim in that second picture of his, he looks like he's about to cry..
Maybe centrelink was about to cancel his benifits or something...
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Just thinking about that Molloy nerd..
You would think with all the illegal activities he's probably involved with, he would add using steriods to the list...
Scrawny little nazi coward.
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Ratzinger it is. Millions of German Lutherans shrug.
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Darp, you are a raving homosexual.
Adolf Hitler was a saint to millions and his memory will never be tarnished by upstart little half-caste Jews like you.
I really do hope you cop a good hiding soon.
FDB is going to be so pathetic and redundant its not funny. How is your ZOG website going to stop the NZNF from entering parliament/protesting?
You are kidding yourself if you think you're making a difference.
I think you should have a debate on TV with Kyle and then we'll see who emerges the victor. You will go down in a ball of flames you idiot.
No one cares what you say, what you write or how clean shaven your testicles are.
Also, HAHAHAHAHAHA abput www.punkas.com you stupid arrogant Jew.
HEIL HITLER!!
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Hahaha Nic Miller is a fine example of what happens when your daddy plays a little too much with you as a child..
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On the Berlin point - let us remember that the Nazis were never POPULAR in the democratic sense of the word in the WHOLE of Germany, let alone Berlin or Munich or anywhere else. In the March 5th elections of 1933, the last elections held in Germany before consolidation of Nazi power, the NSDAP only got 43.9% of the vote.
And this was during the height of the depresseion and a whole month AFTER Hitler had become Chancellor and had unleased both the SS and the SA on other political parties - whose votes all held steady anyway (the Centre Party actually increased their vote by 200,000)...
No denying that as the rearmament of Germany got it steadily out of the depression, the Nazis increased their popularity with ordinary people who just needed a job or hated Versailles. But there was never actual popular support for the Nazis or their broad agenda, not before 1933, not during the period of consolidation, nor during the war - and certainly not now. Nazis reading this might want to remember this...
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Nic Miller: "Darp, you are a raving homosexual"...
So was Rohm... BBWwwwaahahahahah...
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Nic Miller you are a little turd...You guys are the saddest bunch of pussies I have ever seen. Do you think that people like Darp really take your threats serously? Any self respecting man would laugh at a threat from you guys, not one of you could fight your way outta a paper bag. Man and as for that fat Kylie guy, if that's your spokesman you guys have already failed. Sad, sad sad.....Oh and why don't you guys cut of your bollocks as well, wasn't Hitler a eunuch???
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Darp, who knew you were Jewish? Welcome to the fold.
Fools....
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Personally, I am more concerned with the ramifications of the looming FTA with China than Hitler's birthday. Don't you find it strange that little johnnie coward is pushing FTAs just before he gains control of the senate where he will then change our industrial relations laws? I don't fancy working between 12 and 16 hours a day for lower wages just so we can 'compete' with third world countries. I would rather concentrate on the dreadful things that are happening now than dwell in a past that I have no control over. Nearly all of the things that have mongrelised the country have happened just so international corporations can exploit everyone no matter where they live. A level playing field indeed where everyone lives in the third world.
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Yes, I am a half-caste Maori-Jew-Gypsy-Cook Islander-Aboriginal-Viet-Indo-
Sino-Poofo-wanko-Martian-Moroni.
I wonder if any of these guys know what a Moroni is. The late BA Santamaria was one according to Prof Colin Tatz.
When you google-stalk me, some of my old Tim Blair posts come up where I discuss my maternal Jewish heritage (and believe me folks, it's quite a few generations back), still - that's good enough for them to drag me into the conspiracy. Afterall, it is MATERNAL HERITAGE!
Shit, it's Passover isn't it? I better go munch on some of that foul tasting half-baked bread that I bought from the Kosher section of Killara Coles.
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Benedict XVI: Hitler Youth conscript.
Remember, conscript doesn't mean volunteer.
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I wonder if any of these guys know what a Moroni is.
Ooh, ooh, ooh! Teacher, pick me! I Know!
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. It was aimed at "those" guys.
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Yeah, flashman... The Guardian says:
"served briefly and unenthusiastically with the Hitler Youth and later with a German army anti-aircraft unit guarding the BMW factory in Munich. He says he never fired a shot."
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Moroni is what a young Maasai warrior is called.
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HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Can't say it is or it isn't. Haven't been to Kenya recently.
Well...what is a Moroni within the context of the Judeo-Christian tradtion?
Get googling boy!
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darp, you really are a mentally defective mongrel. Remember, every dog has it's day and you ol' buddy, are just that DOG.
Good idea to keep your head down on Hitlers birthday, actually, probably a good idea to keep it down permanently.
The right is getting ever stronger and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it, except for ranting like the neurotic little school kid you are.
RAUS JUDEN!
(BEN WEERHEYM)
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In religious circles Moroni was a prophet and much of his writings are practiced by the mormons.
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Hmmm, at least at DREADNOUGHT Darp, I don't mark/celebrate the birth of Hitler. Perhaps that's the MSM rationale, why mark the bastard's birthday at all?
Ironically, your anti-Catholicism mirrors Hitler's anti-Semitism. Hate fruit from the same tree. Thanks for the link, but this is a disappointing and childish post.
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Oh, even the ABC have dropped the Hitler Youth smear:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsi...04/
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A "smear" is something that hasn't actually happened (usually) or like a half truth.
This guy DID partake in the Hitler Youth.
Oh and anti-PC, you've had your two strikes. A Moroni is a Spanish Jew who was forcibly converted to Catholicism during the Spanish Inquisition.
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Yes, but a moroni is also both of the things I stated.
As for the new pope who really gives a shit? Religion to me is just a form of mind control. One book that I recommend that shows this is The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett.
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"Am still yet to see any MSN references to Hitler's Birthday/Ratzinger elected new Pope."
And you won't. Know why? Because Ratzinger was elected on the 19th.
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Hahah it turns out that those little freaks from NZ National Front arent the only ones who are as dumb as fuck when it comes to mastering their own language..
Check out
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I'm not sure if you should even bother responding to the likes of Nic Miller, answering them only makes them worse. I also have Jewish blood on my maternal side and I was born on Saddam Hussein's birthday!
On other news, I’m organising the next Melbourne Grogblogging, I put a post up on my blog, but not many people are responding. So I'm going round the Blogosphere trying to stir up some interest. If the idea of Grogblogging is enough to get you excited, just drop by my site; leave a comment or vote on my online poll.
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Yeah, I DID take timezone differences into account when putting that post up. Still, one day either way isn't going to make a difference to the boot boys.
See the One People's Project for a better run down.
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anti-PC, Pillars of the Earth was a fucking fantastic book. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Also, The Witch of Cologne is another interesting story of how fucked up religion can be. It's about a Jewish midwife living in medieval Cologne practicing Jewish mysticism, very interesting.
Darp, funnily enough I can claim similar mongrel heritage (irish/english/scottish/aboriginal/maori + ? who knows) including the maternal Jew thing (great-great-great grandmother was a Scottish Jew who emigrated to NZ, but that's another long story)
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Hahaha ...well my own lineage comment was a bit of a pisstake.
In reality, though I am LOATHE to clarify seen as I'm kind of loving the various speculative abuse that the Nazis have been throwing at me, my heritage is a mixture of Scottish, Maori, Swiss and Swiss Jew.
I'll let the nutjobs work out the various percentages and then get back to me as to what camp they'll be transferring me to after 'The Day of the Rope'.
Maybe they can clarify. I thought the day of the rope was intended as a lynch-fest on all whites WHO mix with non-whites?
If so, does this mean I'll just be shot on sight as I'm merely the offspring of a 'miscegenist union' and NOT hung from a telegraph pole?
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http://dictionary.reference.com/.../search?
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It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different.
Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, Indo-European peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, and India. (see link for further explanation)
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Who knows Darp, all I can say is that I hope to pollute the gene pool exponentially when I settle down and have kids with my Brazilian/Portuguese/Italian/German/Austrian/Afro-
Brazilian partner :D
Here's to the melting pot!
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Are you dating Gustavo Kuerten?
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Your obsession with nazis has colored your views on matters which have very little to do with them. Ratzinger was elected on April 19th, and Hitler was born on the 20th according to a quick search I did. Ratzinger was mandatorily enrolled in Hitler Youth, he wasn't a proud Hitler worshipping drone. He was only 12 when the war started, and he deserted the German army anyway.
Your anti-catholicism is just as pronounced as any Nazi's anti-semitism. Nazi says "A jew directed this film, I deduce they run Hollywood!". Darp says "A priest was a child molestor, they're all paedophiles, including the Pope!" And BTW, every major story I've read on Ratzinger has mindlessly referred to the Hitler Youth connection, so you've got the blinkers on.
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Nazis are far Left, not far Right. They are Socialists.
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My poem for you darpy. "you whistle when you fart, you inner city fag, you quiche eating arsebandit you call yourself a man, biting on a pillow while your arse gets ripped apart, late night city dance parties, you mincing fairy tart. poofter faggot, junkie maggot, low life scum of the city, poofter faggot, pack up and piss off quickly!!"
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Nazi is to (National) Socialism as Liberal Party is to liberalism.
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Lamburt, it's not iambic pentameter but at least you've got a tiny bit of rhythm.
I haven't seen Tim Lambert's poetry but I reckon he could do better.
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Drop the threats pissants.
your just a bunch of pussies with bad haircuts.
you aint killing or assulting anyone.
go sqaubble amongts yourself and bash your girlfriends while you listen to pathetic wank metal!
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Hmmm...it's quite an effort.
A few corrections. I don't live in the inner city, I don't eat quiche and the only thing that ENTERS my arse is a thermometer (or one of those prostate probe things).
Nazis are far Left, not far Right. They are Socialists.
Haven't we had this discussion? YES we have.
And I believe the righties lost.
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Hey Lame-Burt,
How can you accuse men of eating quiche. What kind of poncy maded up word is it. Leran to speak Australian English.
The word you are looking for is;
"Egg and Bacon Pie"
And as long as its smothered in tomato sauce and washed down with a beer, there's nothing effeminate about consuming it.
I know you are using poetic licence but you have too many tautologies. The quality of you poetry is on par with the jokes found inside Christmas crackers.
It does have a nice rhythim in a schoolyard purile insulting type of way.
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So we're forgiving Berlin for being the capital of global evil for six years, but not Pope B16 for having been in the Hitler Youth like every other kid in Germany (Berlin included)? Also, Nic Miller is WRONG. I and millions of others like me care passionately how clean-shaven your testicles are.
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1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.
2. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.
3. If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had best break down sooner rather than later.
4. We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence: it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can't predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.
5. In this article we give attention to only some of the negative developments that have grown out of the industrial-technological system. Other such developments we mention only briefly or ignore altogether. This does not mean that we regard these other developments as unimportant. For practical reasons we have to confine our discussion to areas that have received insufficient public attention or in which we have something new to say. For example, since there are well-developed environmental and wilderness movements, we have written very little about environmental degradation or the destruction of wild nature, even though we consider these to be highly important.
THE PSYCHOLOGY OF MODERN LEFTISM
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THE PSYCHOLOGY OF MODERN LEFTISM
6. Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.
7. But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in mind mainly socialists, collectivists, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an ideology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types. Thus, what we mean by "leftism" will emerge more clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology (Also, see paragraphs 227-230.)
8. Even so, our conception of leftism will remain a good deal less clear than we would wish, but there doesn't seem to be any remedy for this. All we are trying to do is indicate in a rough and approximate way the two psychological tendencies that we believe are the main driving force of modern leftism. We by no means claim to be telling the WHOLE truth about leftist psychology. Also, our discussion is meant to apply to modern leftism only. We leave open the question of the extent to which our discussion could be applied to the leftists of the 19th and early 20th century.
9. The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization." Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.
FEELINGS OF INFERIORITY
10. By "feelings of inferiority" we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strictest sense but a whole spectrum of related traits: low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self-hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.
11. When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights advocates, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities. The terms "negro," "oriental," "handicapped" or "chick" for an African, an Asian, a disabled perso
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11. When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights advocates, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities. The terms "negro," "oriental," "handicapped" or "chick" for an African, an Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. "Broad" and "chick" were merely the feminine equivalents of "guy," "dude" or "fellow." The negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal rights advocates have gone so far as to reject the word "pet" and insist on its replacement by "animal companion." Leftist anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative. They want to replace the word "primitive" by "nonliterate." They seem almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive culture is inferior to our own. (We do not mean to imply that primitive cultures ARE inferior to ours. We merely point out the hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)
12. Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect" terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any "oppressed" group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual, white males from middle-class families.
13. Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals), or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit it to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems. (We do not suggest that women, Indians, etc., ARE inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology).
14. Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men.
15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same
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but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.
16. Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative", "enterprise," "optimism," etc. play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his own ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.
17. Art forms that appeal to modern leftist intellectuals tend to focus on sordidness, defeat and despair, or else they take an orgiastic tone, throwing off rational control as if there were no hope of accomplishing anything through rational calculation and all that was left was to immerse oneself in the sensations of the moment.
18. Modern leftist philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftist philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e. failed, inferior). The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual's ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is "inferior" it is not his fault, but society's, because he has not been brought up properly.
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of inferiority make him a braggart, an egotist, a bully, a self-promoter, a ruthless competitor. This kind of person has not wholly lost faith in himself. He has a deficit in his sense of power and self-worth, but he can still conceive of himself as having the capacity to be strong, and his efforts to make himself strong produce his unpleasant behavior. [1] But the leftist is too far gone for that. His feelings of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the leftist. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself.
20. Notice the masochistic tendency of leftist tactics. Leftists protest by lying down in front of vehicles, they intentionally provoke police or racists to abuse them, etc. These tactics may often be effective, but many leftists use them not as a means to an end but because they PREFER masochistic tactics. Self-hatred is a leftist trait.
21. Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principle, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists' hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred.
22. If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.
23. We emphasize that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate description of everyone who might be considered a leftist. It is only a rough indication of a general tendency of leftism.
OVERSOCIALIZATION
24. Psychologists use the term "socialization" to designate the process by which children are trained to think and act as society demands. A person is said to be well socialized if he believes in and obeys the moral code of his society and fits in well as a functioning part of that society. It may seem senseless to say that many
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leftists are over-socialized, since the leftist is perceived as a rebel. Nevertheless, the position can be defended. Many leftists are not such rebels as they seem.
25. The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel and act in a completely moral way. For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or other, whether he admits it to himself or not. Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them. In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin. We use the term "oversocialized" to describe such people. [2]
26. Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society's expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF. Moreover the thought and the behavior of the oversocialized person are more restricted by society's expectations than are those of the lightly socialized person. The majority of people engage in a significant amount of naughty behavior. They lie, they commit petty thefts, they break traffic laws, they goof off at work, they hate someone, they say spiteful things or they use some underhanded trick to get ahead of the other guy. The oversocialized person cannot do these things, or if he does do them he generates in himself a sense of shame and self-hatred. The oversocialized person cannot even experience, without guilt, thoughts or feelings that are contrary to the accepted morality; he cannot think "unclean" thoughts. And socialization is not just a matter of morality; we are socialized to confirm to many norms of behavior that do not fall under the heading of morality. Thus the oversocialized person is kept on a psychological leash and spends his life running on rails that society has laid down for him. In many oversocialized people this results in a sense of constraint and powerlessness that can be a severe hardship. We suggest that oversocialization is among the more serious cruelties that human beings inflict on one another.
27. We argue that a very important and influential segment of the modern left is oversocialized and that their oversocialization is of great importance in determining the direction of modern leftism. Leftists of the oversocialized type tend to be intellectuals or members of the upper-middle class. Notice that university intellectuals (3) constitute the most highly socialized segment of our society and also the most left-wing segment.
28. The leftist of the oversocialized type tries to get off his psychological leash and a
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Oh, please don't, Tim!
As long as we're copying and pasting large chunks of irrelevant text:
"McVeigh was far more likely to have 'got his ideas' from a good fuckin' session of hypnosis and an 'implant' administered by the CIA or a similar agency. He was nothing but a patsy, a sacrificial 'Manchurian Candidate' like those before him (Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan etc) programmed by the Judeo-masonic cryptocracy's agents to serve their sick globalist agenda.
The poor cunt probably believed it WAS just his idea and he was the 'mastermind'. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!" - Kromlek of Asgard
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I was going to post what the WPCA thought of the new pope, but they haven't said anything interesting yet.
They don't like him, by the way, because of his position on contraception... We can't have the "mud races" spreading further than they already have. Though they do prefer him to a black pope.
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William Bowe does allude to a good point, and generalisation on the subject of "if you served in a para-military organisation in Germany during WW2 you are automatically a Nazi sympathiser.
Take the incident with the hair-brained Prince Harry. By wearing a swastika armband on an Africa Korps uniform, he not only pissed of Jews, he pissed of the German veterans of Rommel's elite corps as well.
The German Navy (and especially the U-boat service) were decidedly cool when it came to Nazi ideology. They, in most circumstances, stuck to the old navy salute.
Even some of the Waffen-SS units had the tendency to ignore Nazi doctrine. The infamous 3rd SS Pzr Div "TotenKopf" were rabid racist murderers to the core, whilst the 2nd SS Pzr Div "Das Riech" actively helped refugees. The 5th SS Pzr Div "Wiking" had a totally clean record when it came to warcrimes.
The interesting fact is the SS unit most notorious for there warcrimes (other than 3rd SS) was the "SS WaffenSturmbrigade RONA", also refered to as "SS Volksheerbrigade Kaminski". The interesting item to note is this unit was comprised of Russians.
Even Oskar Schindler was a member of the NSDAP.
The point here is not every German soldier had nazi sympathies, nor every civilian. And as illustrated by the fact Oskar Schindler was a member of the Nazi part, some joined for advancement and profit.
On the flip side, there were numerous people who had strong Nazi leanings and never joined the NSDAP.
Trivia: Did you realise there was a Samoan branch of the NSDAP until 1939 when it went broke?
Note: I am in no way condoning nazism, but merely trying to illustrate that "guilt by association" is fraught with peril.
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Ok, did anyone bother to read through all of Lamburt's rubbish. I skimmed through and caught a couple of points that were relevant to the loopy sparticist left but not a great deal that applied to mainstream progressives.
Looks we got ourselves a Unabomber here people.
Lamburt - start a fucking blog of your own, please. I will very generously leave this crap up seen as I have a policy of zero-censorship but please don't catch a free ride on the back of my readership.
If you believe so strongly in these ideals you've set out, go build up your own fanbase.
Ciao!
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Man, you attract some drongos, Darp!
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One minor problem, both his service in Hitler Youth and the Germany Army were non-voluntary. He left the Hitler Youth in months to go to seminary and he deserted from the army.
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Hey Darp, I think I could be dating his cousin (Kuerten, that is) 
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Don't encourage the verbose chap to start a blog- he'll crash blogger.
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I can't believe I haven't been online for several days and missed Tim's festival of bullshit...
"Modern leftist philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative."
Actually, the notion that 'knowledge is relative' is argued through the application of one's reason; and as such, can be an objective view. Also, you are presuming that relativity and truth are two mutually exclusive terms; the modern 'non-analytic' tradition argues the possibility that truth still exists but can be contingent.
And, by the way, not sure why you lump 'leftist' and 'relativist' together; they are not the same thing. Many analytic philosophers are leftist!
"modern leftist philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analysing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality."
Again, you seem to be stuck in this reductive dualism of logic versus emotion. Modern philosophy argues the possibility that the primacy of reason of emotion is a questionable hierarchical dualism that can be 'disrupted'; logic and emotion may exist in reciprocal relation to one another.
If your going to bag out modern philosophy - at least get your "facts" right!
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Sorry...I meant to say: the primacy of reason OVER emotion is a questionable heirarchical dualism...
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By the way Tim, what does "oversocialization" actually mean?
uummm... aren't we all socialised? How does one go about measuring one's DEGREE of socialisation exactly??
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Darp,
I think you were referring to a 'marano', not 'moroni'. A marano is a Jewish person who was forced to convert to Christianity during the Spanish Inquisition in consequence of cruel persecutions.
Is that what you meant?
Keep up the good work pissing off these racists white pride guys btw. i love it.
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