All this propaganda does is engender and legitimize hatred towards smokers.

Look at this screed, where this moron eqates tobacco smoke exposure with assault, and tell me that this is not the type of attitude that ASH is cultivating with it's hysteric statements regarding exposure to tobacco smoke:

http://www.pittnews.com/vnews/di...8/ 4403e6644e304


Gravatar The same story about high fat meals was also published in Plotnick et al, JAMA, 1997; 278
And Otsuko's observed change (in CFVR) would be instantly reversed by drinking a glass of wine.
-Lancet, 1999; 354; also Lekakis et al, European Society of Cardiologists Congress, Vienna, 2003

And so much for banning smoking in bars!

But even the notion that repeated exposure to secondhand smoke is a cause of "damage" seems wide of the truth. After all, the most widely-touted study (Howard) showed that in comparing chronically exposed to not-exposed nonsmokers over a 3 year period the aggregate difference in artery width was only 7 microns, defined as "about the width of one blood corpuscle." Hardly enough I'd say to "cause" a heart attack. Eh?


Gravatar Therefore, as much as it pains me to do so, I am today calling for a nationwide ban on tater tots.

Michael Siegel

LOL... *rolling eyes*


Gravatar Fish Sticks and Tator Tots...actually had hubby buy them as this blog made me want them!
And Dr Mike the tator tot casserole has been used at many family, church, social gatherings in rural WI for many years-it's as variable as you would like it to be. Easy version of Shepards Pie I think. Except the recipe you linked to had low sodium fat free soup, etc.. Just would not be the same without the real cream soup, sour cream and cheese. Hey, I am from rural Wisconsin-it's in my blood. (cheese and dairy, real butter, real cheese, real sour cream-even homemade...we live mighty fine up here in the cold)


Gravatar Dr. Siegel, you wrote: "a person exposed to secondhand smoke for just 30 minutes has transient endothelial dysfunction and then they are back to normal, assuming that the exposure is not repeated, prolonged, and chronic."

And here is where we disagree... Dr. Siegel, I believe if you look at the studies showing such "transient endothelial dysfunction" you will find that they involve smoke exposures at concentrations FAR greater than you'd typically find in a decently ventilated bar or restaurant today.... most CERTAINLY greater than you would find in one that was WELL ventilated and used modern filtration technology.

Compare the Otsuka/Koku(sp?) studies that trumpet these "30 minute heart attack" scares with the figures from studies looking at better designed bars/restaurants and tell me if you think it is still fair to compare the results of the two as equals in considering the effects of "repeated, prolonged, and chronic" exposure.




Michael J. McFadden
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"
http://www.AntiBrains.com


Gravatar Will you please explain to me why you keep deleting my queries about endothelial dysfunction and it's significance to smoking and health?


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