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"Zero tolerance for carrying knives - get caught and you go inside"
Really. I carry one when camping with the family. I have one in my picnic set. I have also been known to have an axe in the car when on the way to a scout camp for example.
I am also a Police Officer.
Who differentiates between knife wielding scum and nice Mr. Jones with his picnic in the park cutting his loaf ? The Courts. Or are you arguing that he should go straight to jail regardless ? This tends to be the thing that incenses the Bourgeois press when what they mean is that people other than them should go direct to jail.
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07.12.08 - 10:34 pm | #
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I work in a CAB as a volunteer. Every week I see people from eastern europe, generally decent hard -working types who for one reason or another need to apply to the government for benefits or housing.
After one year working at most they have the same entitlement as any Brit.
To repeat myself, in all aspects of the way the State interacts with them they are IDENTICAL to British citizens.
I don't see how you can claim to have a nation on that basis. 1000 years of history dissolving before our eyes. Do people not see this, or do they see it & just don't care?
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07.12.08 - 10:39 pm | #
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It might be cheaper to bring back fathers (not just procreators) . even make divorce much harder.
Fathers have always been the police force of society.
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07.13.08 - 1:38 am | #
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David Blackie |
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07.13.08 - 8:37 am | #
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Wat,
"-Zero tolerance for carrying knives get caught and you go inside
-Random searches"
I agree with the Anon police officer; inviting authoritatianism in on the pretext of security infanitlises an already neutered population.
The state, whether Tory or NuLabour, is incapable of judging on the matter of right and wrong without politicising it. We dont need possession charges for a lump of metal (irrespective of how deadly it is) we need harsher (and considerably longer) punishments for those who engage in such attacks.
"-Three strikes and you're out (maybe two or even one for crimes of violence)
-Double the number of prison places"
Ideas I can agree on but only through emotional response to the aftermath of crime, not in dealing with its causes; again the answer lies in placing the control and responsibility on a devolved level - such as we have with our favourite Sheriff in the US you mentioned in a previous post.
I work for a Church youthgroup who deal with the kind of kids who without our intervention would be the kind you see in crime statistics (on both the receiving and giving ends); you need only scratch the surface behind these "thugs" and see their is a plethora of reasons (NOT, I'd like to add, excuses; excuses are for the progressive consensus that fails these kids) for their behaviour; a liberalised, local approach to crime is needed to this national problem.
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07.13.08 - 10:50 am | #
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It all just highlights how absurd the world is becoming.I carry a knife because I spend alot of time around boats and on the water. I also go fishing and occasionally pull a cork..its on the knife. The list of jobs, never mind hobbies that requires a knife of some form or other is pretty long.To be searched and arrested...42 days I assume, is beyond belief.
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07.13.08 - 11:42 am | #
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Anonymous and Thom -
"Who differentiates between knife wielding scum and nice Mr. Jones with his picnic in the park cutting his loaf ? The Courts. Or are you arguing that he should go straight to jail regardless? "
You know what? On this, you're right and I'm wrong.
Why should the peaceful majority be penalised for wanting to carry a knife? Or an axe come to that? (sidearms? hmm... I guess we'd differentiate by saying knives and axes have perfectly peaceful uses whereas guns do not... target shooting? Nah, a ban on street gun toting has to stay).
So let's drop the instant jail for knife carrying. and seriously crank up the penalties for misuse. Let's reinforce personal responsibility, and remove those who can't manage to exercise it properly.
Thank you for pulling me up.
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07.13.08 - 12:07 pm | #
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Max-
And thank you too. We certainly don't want to interfere with your fishing.
In fact - and I understand this is cheating - I'm going to amend the blog
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07.13.08 - 12:09 pm | #
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David B-
Vid still seems to work fine at our end
Wat Tyler |
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07.13.08 - 12:29 pm | #
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Thanks - now working OK for me too. Sorry about that.
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07.13.08 - 2:09 pm | #
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Wat,
Not a problem; wasn't really pulling you up on it but illustrating that it is the same slippery slope that has resulted in the smoking ban, 42-days and the whole myriad of authoritarian crap that NuLabour have brought about.
More importantly it is the acceptance of the Napoleonic tradition of law in which everything is banned unless expressly illustrated in law; this is counter to the British system of everything being legal until proscribed by law.
This law scheme has sneaked in the backwaters of Britain through stealth and subversion, via the EU
, the socialists and the left "progressive consensus"; we cry out wondering why their has been so many laws created yet seem to forget this is the way most of our European counterparts have worked for decades (and very badly).
As a libertarian (and a card carrying member of the LPUK) I firmly believe the answer to crime and societal breakdown at large lies in fewer laws, not more; the minute people are no longer responsible for right and wrong as a biaised, politically driven state takes over this process you cannot expect them to behave.
As for gun ownership I personally believe there is middle ground; liberalise gun ownership making it easier for the vulnerable to carry them but take and keep a very, very, very good record of all who carry them; the prog con have somehow made it seem more noble to be on the receiving end of a violent assault than be the one who brings the perpetrator to task - this cant help but lead to the "criminal rights" corruption we are exposed to so often.
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07.13.08 - 3:50 pm | #
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Thanks, quite cheered me up it did.
Got to be a better idea than taking the yobs to hospital to show them knife victims !
And I hadn't realised I was 'anon'.
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YouTube seems to do this after a while - may be some kind of programmed time out. If you refresh the webpage, a YouTube video works again.
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