Michael,
an interesting thing to notice is that there is an article called "pay 'em, Trade 'em, Ignore 'em" which has different players who are under contract who want a different deal. Bobby Engram is the only player who almost everyone agrees should get a new deal.
griffin
Shaun should sign a one day contract and retire a Hawk
Actually Griffin, in that article it suggests that the team ignore Bobby Engram. If they were advocating Bobby getting a pay raise, then shouldn't he fall under pay em'
Also, I don't support Bobbyg getting a new contract, and I think there are a lot of other people who feel that way too.
In your quote it said two pro bowlers. I think Tobeck was Pro Bowler in 2005, too. Am I right?
Looks like it DC,
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/ne...tory?
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Maybe Bucky meant perennial PB guys
I'm thinking Shauns the only one not thinking that it had more to do with the great line play than him.
You saw the writing on the wall with the 'Stabbed in the back' remark the year before the MVP season.
I'm sure Shaun still thinks he's a stud, but it would be hard for someone who dosen't have their head in the clouds to think that...
If he wants to play he's going to have to take a lot lower pay, If he isn't willing to do that, then just retire a Hawk and call it good.
Either way it goes, I'm just glad we picked up a few guys that are going to hit the hole hard, run people over, catch, and oh yeah! pick up the blitz so Matt dosen't get drilled...
Not to be picky (okay, I'm being picky) but maybe the "opening day" comment at the upper left hand of the main page could be changed to "kick-off." Opening Day sounds so baseball oriented.
It actually isn't opening day anyway, considering the season opens the Thursday before, so I will change it....maybe
lol - good call... I thought of that Thursday thing too... maybe if we only care about the 'Hawks... it can be left... even though we're football fans, our real season doesn't begin until our boys kick-off at Buffalo... even though I'll watch the Thursday game, I only care about one game that weekend (of course, I'd always like to see the Cowboys lose)...
The "poor blocker" thing is dead on.
I think they gave Shaun too much credit when it was stated that he is a "marginal" receiver. I would have said he was a terrible receiver.
Well, whatever it was, it worked good in 2005. Shaun's whole career up to the start of the 2006 season is a pretty hefty chunk of running to be attributed purely to an offensive line. I still think you've got to give Shaun some credit here too.
He got old and injured like all good players do eventually but to see so many fans turn on him now and try to explain away his career as a product of other factors is a petty thing to do.
Shaun got the Seahawks on the map and off the ground in their current 5 year playoff run. Let's show that we're a little better than others who are trying to trivialize his career now that it's finally true that he can't hold down the featured back spot on an NFl team.
I still have nothing but good feelings about what Shaun brought to the Seahawks. I still remember 2002 through 2005 at quest field where it seems as if every other jersey I saw being worn was an Alexander #37. What happened to all those fans who cherished his contributions back then? Does what happened the last two seasons diminish all that? Get real.
Billt, I agree whole completely. How can everything be attributed to the offensive line. I have watched film of Shaun making unbelievable cut and taking paths down field that left safeties wondering what city they were in. He was a good player. He had a different style of running and once his age and injuries set in, he was way less productive. People forget that in the first two games of last season he rushed for over 100 yards and then got injured. Im glad he is not playing here anymore but please give him the credit he deserves.
Football, basketball, baseball, hockeyt, all sports fans are instant gratification types of people. It's human nature I suppose, but especially sports where they get paid millions to play a game. Anyway, yeah 37 really changed pro football in the NW. Not one Hawks fan who watched the 05 season could say that Shaun would fall so far so fast. The line dis-assembled and Shaun became injury prone. It's unfortunate, but a nature of the business. Nobody is immune, not even Alexander the Great.
I tend to remember the best times in life (as much as humanly possible). That 05 season was great and I feel so sorry for Shaun now. Sure he was great because of other people, but a great reciever isn't great without a good quarterback, a CB is hardly ever great without a good line giving pressure (there are exceptions), a safety usually isn't great without good CB's and a free safety.
I wish Shaun the best of luck, but his game now is suspect, most teams with a good O-line already have young RB's in place, no need in bringing in a vet that has no real marketable skills for the money I am sure he is asking...
I agree with Yung Hawk, Shaun should sign and retire. Not head out on top, just retire with the team that made you.
I was one of the people saying in '04 and '05 that he was overrated b/c of his o-line, that I guess that means I am allowed to stick to my guns on this one. He never sucked, in fact he was good --- just overrated b/c of his o-line play.
What YungHawk and Greg in Portland said. Sign a one-day contract and retire a Seahawk.
While Shaun ran up a lot of yards and scored a LOT of touchdowns for us, Mack Strong played a huge part in Shaun's success.
IMHO, YMMV.
Julie
Football is a team sport.
Shaun Alexander deserves some of the credit for the success of the Seahawks' running game from 2002-2005.
His offensive teammates (offensive line, full back, quarterback, recievers, play caller) deserve the majority of it, however.
Also, the fact that no team yet has signed Alexander demonstrates his current value.
There is no doubt about it that the TEAM had a lot to do with his individual record (if you can call it that). There is not any individual records in football. It's a byproduct of the offense, defense, and special teams. Individual records from a career stand point are more impressive, but again it takes a team.
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