okay...let's see...it's alright to rip off all the clothes of the female characters but oh lawdy don't mention the gay sex'in. nice.


But did it have the hot gay prison sex, or was that page just cut?


SpiritGlyph - Nope, those panels are still there...which makes the editing even more curious (unless they thought the incest bit was a tad over the top).


Yeah, I believe this was from the issue that had several retailers wailing about how DC wasn't "thinking of the children" or some such paternalistic/puritanical nonsense. Did they cut the prison guards and inmates and their sophisticated all-male action from the trade as well?

(And I'd wager that, if someone calls DC on the edit, they'll claim that they removed the dialogue because of the incest insinuation.)


Blast, you responded while I was typing and answered my questions!


Dor - I'm sneaky like that.


Yeah, I'm guessing it's the incest reference, not the gay thing, since, as you point out, they keep the explicit depiction of man-on-man action on the page previous.

To play devil's advocate, I'm of the school of thought that implication is better than flat statement. So I actually think the dialogue works better this way.

He's still threatening to switch partners, and the smart reader can work out WHY that's a threat on their own. The balloon layout is also nicer, keeping the words with the speaker.

To take a Swamp Thing reference, Alan Moore only implied (STRONGLY implied) that Abigail slept with her uncle, and it was that much worse for having to work it out for yourself.


Considering that issue as whole has plenty of gay sex references, I'd say that the incest joke probably is what DC decided to eliminate. They just showed a hot all-man prison orgy on the previous page, which I'd say is bit more likely to draw flack than the verbal suggestion of Psimon and Mammoth getting it on.

Either way, it seems like a fairly innocuous thing to take offense to. I'll admit, though, I wouldn't much mind if they started publishing Outsiders as a series of soothing white page. Censorship is bad, but so is Winick's writing lately. I look forward to seeing if DC comments on this.


Yeah, given that the other stuff appears intact, it's almost certainly the incest reference that got that balloon cut. But still, anyone who would've been offended by that is going to find something else in the book to be offended by, so they might as well have just left it in.


Somehow I ...eh..."missed" this arc the first time around. Not to be a prude, but this reads more like Outsiders fanfic...

It's probably a good thing Looker is not in this book...


Is this Outsiders as in Batman and...?


...Judd Winnick's Hamfisted Political Commentary Comics Featuring The Outsiders Or Green Lantern.

Seriously, I hate this comic so much, and not because of the gay humpin'.


Memo : it would have been more authentic comic book pr0n if it said "teh gay sex".

Trust me, I have a Livejournal.


Tom - It's a new DC superteam with the same name, though it doesn't have a whole lot in common with the original.


I am very proud of myself.

I know you insist I will have a blog of my own one day, but if I did, I couldn't give the pointless and unimportant minutia I discover on rare occaision to you for posting.


It's a new DC superteam with the same name, though it doesn't have a whole lot in common with the original.

Given where DC first used the name "Outsiders" for a super-hero team...


The phrase "banging his sister?" In a DCU book? Does the comics code mean anything anymore?

If kids read comics, there'd be a lot of concerned mothers in picket lines right about now.


Dorian - Oh, yeah, that Outsiders. Can you imagine this stuff happening in that comic? Or maybe it did...who can tell?

David C. - I was making that very point earlier to employee Nathan...it's not as if anyone under the age of, say, 16 or 17 is reading Outsiders anyway.


This feels weird and gross, but not one iota more for the nature of any pairing.


When I first read that, I just assumed someone had scanned, edited, reprinted the page and sneakily inserted it into a store copy as a joke.


ick.


Slightly beside the point (because, you know, since when did trade paperbacks become the place where censorship became the rule and not the exception?), but what DCU issues, other than Outsiders, does this trade collect? Thanks.


Coll. Ed. - According to DC Comics, it collects 29-33, "plus select scenes from various DCU books, showing Donna Troy recruiting heroes for her mission!"


Mikester -- Thanks. I'm looking forward to it. Any idea what issues specifically (it'll probably be on the trade's copyright page)?

Thanks again!


Coll. Ed. - According to the copyright page, it also includes a short bit from Firestorm #19. I don't see any other "select scenes from various DCU books" as promised on the DC web site.


That was just a uneven bit of writing if you ask me.

Ask me.


It was at this point that I gave up on Outsiders... not a prude or anything, but it was just a horrible, horrible book.


Heh. It cuts both ways, really. I've always enjoyed the Fearsome Five (currently Four), all the more so since Winick took Psimon out of that silly muumuu. Still, I usually just peruse the issues in my local comic shop. This one I actually bought — BECAUSE of the gay sex.


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