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I liked that Robin's costume looked like Nightwing's from the comic. And that's all I got. |
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Batgirl wasn't allowed to punch Poison Ivy. I'm pretty sure that was the doubleplus final straw for me. |
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"And there our three heroes run off triumphantly into no future sequels." |
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so, is that a recommendation for others to see the film? I still haven't seen it, so since you didn't seem to do yourself r=the bodily harm you anticipated... |
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The Rifftrax is one of their worst since it's the one that is fan written. I'm a completist so I have it but I wouldn't recommend anyone going out of their way for it. |
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Roger, you've got to see it just to be able to complain about it knowledgeably. It's like reading All-Star Batman and Robin. :P |
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"It's a Bat-Bomb!" "Truer words were never spoken!" |
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I actually enjoyed this movie! And the trailer got me really pumped up about it 11 years ago. Ah, good, innocent schoolboy days of yore. |
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I know I'm a lone voice in the wilderness on this, but as bad as Batman and Robin was, I feel Batman Forever was far, far worse. Kilmer is worse than Clooney, Two-Face is criminally wasted, Jim Carrey is infinitely worse than any in B&R, Nicole Kidman is soul-searingly bad and makes Jezebel Jett look like a good relationship... |
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GAH! |
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One thing I realized years ago about 'Batman Forever' and 'Batman and Robin' is that Akiva Goldsman wrote virtually the same movie plot twice, just switching out characters. |
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I read the post all the way through, Mike |
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Batman and Robin is indescribably bad. Even John Glover couldn't raise my spirits by offering a Swamp Thing connection. When I saw the film in the theater, and when we got to the part with Bane walking around uttering "Bomb! Bomb! Bomb!" someone in the audience yelled out, "Jesus, even BANE realizes this film sucks!" Clooney, who most looks the part as Bruce Wayne, gave the worst perfomance as the Batman--ever. Silverstone was hot in her rubber fetish costume...but her character was ridiculous. Uma Thurman was embarrassingly non-sexy and utterly non-convincing. Pat Hingle turned Gordon into a Keystone Cop. Arnie was so wrongly cast as Freeze that it defies logic, and his character was about as un-Freeze-like as it gets without having Adam West playing Batman. The incessant cold jokes were an abomination--and not of the snowman kind...just abominable, period. The neon Gotham City was like battery acid in my eyes. And the Bat credit card immediately made me ask my friend a simple question: "Where do they send the bill each month?" Oh, Joel...why? |
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i saw in the film in the theater, and as it unspooled i started sinking further and further into my seat. i kept telling myself "it'll get better" in that desperate Homer Simpson voice. |
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I abhor both Schumacher "Batman" films. I still love the two Burton films, though, especially the second one. I still get a tinge of regret every once in awhile that he (Burton) was never allowed to make a third one. Assuming he would have had the same basic requisites as Schumacher did, I would have loved to have seen his take on Robin, Two-Face (with Billy Dee Williams playing the part), and the Riddler. It also may have saved him from making "Mars Attacks," the only truly awful film he ever made. |
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All things said and done, throw in a glam rock soundtrack and you'd have yourself a great Ken Russell film. If I can look at it through that filter, I have to admit I kind of dig it. |
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You know, I saw this one in the theaters on opening day and I loved it. Not because it was any good, but because it was so bad it was hilarious. My buddies and I laughed throughout the movie, laughed for a few hours at the waffle house after the movie, and laughed all the way home. So worth every penny. |
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Mike, you are a true man of steel. I couldn't get through the YouTube clip so there's no way I'm watching this movie. I usually love silly Batman stuff like the 60's show and Bat-Mite, but this stuff just makes my brain scream in pain. |
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I got to 4:46 on the clip and couldn't get past it, but partially because I was forced to see bits of this travesty recently when I appeased my step-son, whom we judged too young to see Dark Knight, by finding copies of the 4 90's Bat-films to watch. |
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I remember not too long after this came out reading an interview with Mike Nelson from MST3K and he referred to it as not only the worst movie ever, but the worst thing ever. That always stuck with me. |
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I still stand by my belief that if this was released in 1968 and starred Adam West and Burt Ward it would be the best Batman film EVER. |
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What, all that commentary, and not a single mention of when Clooney Batman does the whole "Fred Flintstone Sliding Down the Bronto's Neck, Back and Tail at the Beginning of the Flintstones" thing? |
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I can honestly say I have never seen a worse movie in the theatre. I paid over $10 Cdn to see it, too. |
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I've seen maybe the first 10 minutes of this film, and couldn't take any more. |
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I think Batman Forever is worse than this. |
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I think your final comments are on the nose- the problem isn't that it's campy but that it fails at being effectively so. One thing I noticed was how stage-like the sets are- the lighting and the way they're built makes it too obvious that these aren't real places, there's no sense of an overall environment. Everyone plays it too broad (I LIKE Uma Thurman, but she really embarrasses herself here.) |
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Sterling, you totally ripped off my post from last week! J'accuse! |
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Joel Shumacker suxx so much that even in the Batman ANIMATED series, they made fun of him! |
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I agree, Dorian. A swipe at Shumacker is fine, but the gay-bashing in that scene was totally uncalled for, especially because it tarnishes what is otherwise one of the best episodes in the animated series. |
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To the previous commentator: Mars Attacks is not Tim Burton's worst film, it's actually his best, and once you realize that you will see why Tim Burton totally lost the plot after that movie and Ed Wood. What is there you can possibly say after those two great films? I still haven't washed the taste of Big Fish out of my mouth, and I haven't bothered with anything since. |
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(I should probably mention, parenthetically to my previous parenthesis, that Tigerland was still over-the-top and kind of trashy, but he somehow managed to make the tone fit a bit better with a hyper-macho and intentionally homoerotic Vietnam war film than with Batman.) |
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I love watching the scenes with the Gotham gangs.. I just figure that any minute they're going to start snapping and dancing around each other like West Side Story. And the neon colors.. Without a doubt, Gotham has the most FABULOUS gangs evah! |
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Thirty-two responses? Mike, is that a record for your blog? I don't ever remember seeing that many before, but I could be wrong. |
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I had similarly avoided Batman & Robin for years until it popped up on cable a few months back. Don't know if I could have watched it without distractions, but it was fine accompaniment to a few hours of admin work over at comicbookdb. I was able to enjoy it for how bad it was, but I am convinced that I would have found it soul-crushing to watch when it came out given how much I loved the two Burton-helmed Bat-flicks. |
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When anyone tries to tell me that longtime NYT movie reviewer Janet Maslin deserved to be taken seriously at all, I point them to the review of this movie. |
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There is one thing that made Batman and Robin wonderful. It killed the comic movie franchise for a couple of years and made Hollywood take a long and serious look about how comic movies should NOT be made. Without Batman and Robin Warner Brothers would have never gone on to make Batman Begins or The Dark Knight. From what I remember reading Warner Brothers was happy to continue on with the series casting Madonna as a Harley Quinn. Oh dear Buddha the madness that would have continued if not for Batman and Robin being so horrible. So it can be said that in being the abomination Batman and Robin essentially saved the comic book movie genre(except for Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3). And gave all of us a great laugh, cringe, and sigh along the way. |
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I still think Batman Forever was worse. What with Jim Carrey over acting the f**k out of his totally off base riddler, through to Billy Dee Williams becoming Tommy Lee Jones (who is soooo miscast). On top of stupid stupid stupid dialogue for Robin (I can't begin to tell you how many people groaned at the Holy Heavy Metal line in the cinema) |
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Watching the YouTube clip, I notice that everyone seems to be 10+ stories in the air half the time. Cars jumping off of statues, Bane dropping down from Arkham Asylum, etc. Kind of weird. |
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Silverstone gradually faded from sight, but O'Donnell's been around and doing regular stints in film and television. He's never made it to serious star level, but he's done well for himself. |
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I actually think Schwarzenegger gets something of a bum rap for this movie... if only because I can't imagine *anyone* doing much with the abominable material they give his character. |
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Mr Freeze lines that didn't make it into the movie. |
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And better than Superman Returns. |
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Your comments about the similarities between B&R and the Adam West show (and where it all falls apart on them) are pretty much exactly what I thought when the two-disc set came out a while back. |
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Just to prove that I actually read it all, I'll nitpick (my most cherished mode of communication): |
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What everyone is forgetting, is that BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN AND ROBIN |
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Trying to vindicate BATMAN & ROBIN with TIGERLAND ? |
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I remember my wife telling me that my kids watched this when they were staying over at my in-laws' place, one time. They came back pretty jazzed and talking about how much they loved it. After seeing the expression of incredulity on my face she reminded me that they (my kids) were, like, four, six, & eight years old. After that, I always just assumed that was probably the target audience for this movie. |
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I had to because I couldn't believe you would subject yourself to it.