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I hate hate HATE Nicholas Cage.
Did I mention that I HATE Nicholas Cage? His name is word vomit!
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01.06.06 - 1:10 pm | #
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I think Nicolas Cage is getting better looking the older he gets.
It does seem a little too soon to me, because we're still bombarded with reminders every year on the anniversary of the attacks. It'll be interesting to see what the plot is like.
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Forever is too soon. This is a movie better that should never be made. There are plenty of documentaries on the subject and this is one instance where a Hollywood "dramatization" is not needed.
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I hate that they're doing this, this and that movie flight 93. That comes out before it.
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Mr. Cage is looking old, perhaps it is for the movie. I don't see the need for this film, I think it will dredge up a lot of very bad memories just when people are moving forward and seeing the positive in life.
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01.06.06 - 1:17 pm | #
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dude, that shit was like, almost 5 years ago. longer by the time this movie comes out.
Anonymous |
01.06.06 - 1:19 pm | #
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Whats the point of this movie? We all know what happend! Anyone that goes to watch this movie should be offered to the scientologist.
M |
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01.06.06 - 1:21 pm | #
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Good lord! Nic is looking hagard! Eat a sandwich! You know after 911 they had all these people giving food to the firefighters. Maybe he needs a chocolate Ensure.
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No need for this. Like M said, we all know what happened.
Mouse |
01.06.06 - 1:25 pm | #
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OK, I am lame....I can't get my gravatar to display. Anyone able to help?
Patsy |
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01.06.06 - 1:26 pm | #
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Why does Nicolas always have that look on his face...like he's always sad, constipated, and he's going to die from hemorroids?? why does he always look like his asshole is itchy and he can't scratch??
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And in the hands of Oliver Stone, it will end up being a conspiracy theorized, unsubstantiated mess...this is way too soon, and in the hands of the wrong director.
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01.06.06 - 1:27 pm | #
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Kinda hot in this picture...
http://topcelebrity2.free.fr/cage9.jpg
So Hot! |
01.06.06 - 1:30 pm | #
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Ok fine. Make this movie, then be sure to send all the proceeds to the families who are without spouses/parents. But sigh this is America, we need to make sure our movie stars makes tens of millions of dollars so they can buy their dog a diamond studded shoe.
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01.06.06 - 1:32 pm | #
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I Heart Michael K - omg i totally agree. i refuse to see anything with him in it - SUCH an overactor/elviswannabe/creeper
cluessy |
01.06.06 - 1:36 pm | #
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Dayanara, you is bad. That was funny shit.
Diamond studded shoe? WTF?
Mouse |
01.06.06 - 1:36 pm | #
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I was meerly commenting on the extravagence of plasticwood's obsession with buying the animals diamond studded things, collars, sweaters, dildos, stuff like that.
Putas del fuelgo (aka Pimpster |
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OH! Dayanara and I will each take a diamond studded dildo, Pimpster!
Mouse |
01.06.06 - 1:39 pm | #
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I agree with Guidomom - this is a movie that NEVER needs to be made. I'm sure ticket sales in NY will be dismal. We lived though it - no need to see a no-talent ass like Nicholas Cage try to bring it all back.
Pookie |
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01.06.06 - 1:39 pm | #
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"dude, that shit was like, almost 5 years ago."
i think we just found the shallowness, insensitivity and stupidity that is required to be an audience member for Mr. Stone's film. They all need to be like that guy. Clueless.
Its too fuckin soon.
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01.06.06 - 1:41 pm | #
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Diamond Studded dildo?? WTF?? hehehe, I'll take one yes, my pussy is very spoiled. lol
Dayanara |
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I aint seeing this shit. I had the fucking smoke over my house and had to explain it to my kid. Oliver Stone is so desensitized by his fucking drugs he doesnt care about anything except his next fix.
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01.06.06 - 1:43 pm | #
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i think a documentary might be better
Bored as all Fricken HeLL |
01.06.06 - 1:44 pm | #
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I agree MK. Too soon. still too painful.
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 1:51 pm | #
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Dayanara...

FMouie |
01.06.06 - 1:52 pm | #
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FMOUIE!!!!!! YOURE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 1:53 pm | #
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It's not too soon. I just hope that Oliver Stone will be able to bring the great sensitivity that he is known for to the subject. LOL, sorry he can't.
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I wonder if I can personalize my dildo with those swartzky(? I know I just butchered that)crystals that parasite has on her phone.
I think we all watched the tvs that horrible day, and other than through documentaries and the such should be the only way. Why should he get to profit off of one of America's worst days in history.
Putas del fuelgo (aka Pimpster |
01.06.06 - 1:55 pm | #
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Dayanara, your puss IS spoiled with the BD Cowboy BF. I shall be spoiled myself tonight with Rey-Rey. He's a construction worker. Oh lalalalalala.
Mouse |
01.06.06 - 1:55 pm | #
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Thank you Anon 1:54. I was just about to freak out and yell at you!!
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 1:55 pm | #
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1. Too soon...as in, don't make that sh!t at all. Damn money grubbing ba$tards living off of pain and misery.
2. Nick Cage is such a loser that it makes this even worse.
Kat in da Hat |
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01.06.06 - 1:56 pm | #
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Of course, everybody HAS to cash in on 9-11...the 9-11 franchise will go on forever, with countless money-making opportunities.
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01.06.06 - 1:58 pm | #
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Yep. Hollywood making more $$$ off of people's pain and misery and you know what the Taliban is going to say?? That we make $$ of off the deaths of our own people and they are right. Nice eh? Tell that to the families in my town...(I live down by Staten Island in Jersey)
CokeMonkey |
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Oh goodie, construction workers always make a good fuck! 
Dayanara |
01.06.06 - 2:00 pm | #
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Actually, I agree with Guidomom and others..never make it. We'll survive without THIS movie.
I bought the docum that came out a couple years ago to give to my son and I couldn't watch it all. I don't even know anybody personally who was affected, and it affects me like no other movie or docum ever. The people diving; those poor brave bastards that went back in to save whoever they could. Jesus, that needs to be never forgotten, but not made into a movie for many years. Just recalling some of the visions I saw in that video gives my eyes to welter. Horrible event in our history and for those people that were directly affected.
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 2:01 pm | #
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Hello Fmouie!!
Dayanara |
01.06.06 - 2:01 pm | #
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Coke Monkey...
woohoo!! Yay, verily, I say unto thee, I has returned. Thanks for the welcome.
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 2:02 pm | #
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hello Dayanara
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 2:02 pm | #
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I will not see this movie or any other 'movie' on the events of 9/11. I was fucking there.
next!
gossipfan |
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01.06.06 - 2:03 pm | #
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FMouie! Where u been, baybee?
Mouse |
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FMouie, I could tell you horror stories I heard from people, burying only an ankle, or a finger cause their was nothing else....and MUCH worse from people who survived.
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I have to agree that it's inappropriate. We know what happened, I still get visuals when I think about it. I don't think a movie is a good idea at all. Documentaries, fine.
And welcome back, Mouie. The ladies out here have missed you I think I've read a few FMouie quotes over the last few days 
NaughtyVoyeur |
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I would pay to see this before I would see Cheaper by the Dozen 2.
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01.06.06 - 2:04 pm | #
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People will pay to see it. Who are you to deny them that pleasure? Stop censorship.
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He plays a Port Authority cop. It't a true story. He is playing one of 2 Port Authority cops who were the last living people pulled from the rubble. And while It may or may not be toosoon, judge it when its done...
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That day was so disturbing and awful. 9/11 is a tired subject for New Yorkers and to even bring it up in a conversation here has come to be considered in poor taste, or so it seems to me. One article I read said that if you were to bring up 9/11 at a cocktail party in New York, people will look at you as you had just openly and loudly farted. By choosing this subject matter, Oliver Stone shows just how out of touch he has become.
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Yes, I agree with the stop censorship issue...but there's a fine line with good taste and bad taste. Like allowing the KKK to put up billboards in your neighborhood.
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Well--everyone that saw my posts yesterday about the whole NR-Concentration Camp thing knows my dad was killed in that shit. I live with that shit every day and so does my mom and the rest of the family. Well, at least those in the family that still talk to us since they think we got paid millions of dollars and didn't give them shit. I'm sure one day 9/11 will be a thing of the past--much in the same way we think of the attack on Pearl Harbor. It's sad but most of us can't really relate because it was before our time. But for right now--and I know I'm a biased bitch--I say FUCK NO!!
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The Daily News printed a color pic of a severed finger. Bad enough, but the wedding band was still on it and it was very distinctive. I remember praying that the family of that poor man didn't see it. The Daily News was WAY WAY out of line on that.
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Exactly Madonna..I feel like its still pouring salt in an open wound and Oliver Stoned is an opportunistic asswipe. Nuff said.
CokeMonkey |
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Right on it Nee.
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 2:11 pm | #
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Why are they doing this? A documentary would be enough.
Kim |
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01.06.06 - 2:15 pm | #
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Mouse...
actually working today!! busy..
Naughty...
Hi hon. yes, I'v been chatting a couple days now.
Nee..
I remembered our chat yesterday but couldn't remember your name when I was opining.
nice to see y'all
FMouie |
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Mouse..
I agree. showing a finger with a recognizable ring is dead cold hearted.
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 2:16 pm | #
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Kim...
they made a two vhs docum. it was not long after.
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 2:20 pm | #
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Cokemonkey:
There will be billboards for this movie up in your neighborhood. I hate to say it, but the KKK has a right to advertise just like anyone else. If you don't like it, you are supposed to look the other way. That's what freedom is.
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01.06.06 - 2:20 pm | #
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FMouie...
I'll whoop your ass if you forget me again!
Nee |
01.06.06 - 2:20 pm | #
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Way too soon. In fact, why he's making this movie at all is beyond me. It's disgusting he and the other 'stars' will make a fortune off this. It was painful enough for people and something I personally will never get over. There's no way I will be seeing this.
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FMouie - when you say actually working, do you mean me or you? Cuz if you mean me, you're way off base! LOL
Yeah, well, that's The Daily Snooze for you.
Mouse |
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I love Nicholas Cage, but Hollyweird is so wrong for going here. Some stuff shouldn't be turned into a movie. Everyone knows what happened...why bring up that old pain?
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I saw the documentary done by the 2 French men who just happened to be following one of the firehouse teams that responded on 9/11. I still remember the scene with the firefighters talking in the lobby and the loud "thwacks" from outside as bodies hit the cement (this was before the buildings fell). It was an agonizing sound. Thank God they had enough discretion not to film those bodies.
I agree its too soon for a Hollywoodized movie. Wait 10 - 20 years for the wounds to scab over. They will never be gone but it might hurt less in 20 years.
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See I don't understand why all the hate for making this movie. I actually am quite surprised that we didn't have at least 3 different half-ass versions from the networks by now.
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01.06.06 - 2:28 pm | #
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I hate this fuck! We don't need no stinkin' movies 'bout 9/11 - enough with all this capitalizing on disaster.
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There should never be a movie that isn't a documentary made about 911. People have no respect for the people killed that day.
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Violet, I remember that so well. That horrible smacking sound! I didn't know what it was at first. I was not in NYC when the attacks happened. I was in our Stamford office and we could see lower Manhattan from the upper floors. Lots of smoke and ash. I was standing next to a really asshole attorney watching it on CNN and when the first tower fell, he just started to cry and said, "I just lost a shitload of friends." I'm getting goose bumps just telling it.
Mouse |
01.06.06 - 2:31 pm | #
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Hey Miz - right on.
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i don't understand why people are up in arms about the 9/11 movie and yet told those who dared voice a contrary opinion yesterday to chill out and have a sense of humor about the nicole richie/holocaust image... and yes, i was there on 9/11.
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Nee...
yeow!! I guess I'll def work on that!
Raskl...
good point. I don't even want to see that though. It's so painful to me.
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 2:39 pm | #
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Nicholas Cage is YUCK normally. And he looks FUCK on those pics
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01.06.06 - 2:44 pm | #
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j...
I can't imagine being there and wanting to ever see a movie on it. I'm just too sensitive to that pain from innocent people and their children who will NEVER see their parents, or family members again!! For no reason other than they happened to be there where we were attacked by people who genuinely hate us and killed those innocents for NOTHING!! just too sadI cannot relate to your indefference to that. You're lucky to be able to disassociate. I could not do that.
FMouie |
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HorseChick...
great avatar!
FMouie |
01.06.06 - 2:45 pm | #
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I dont think this needs to be made either. I will never forget that day. It was 2 weeks into my first year of law school. We heard what was happening and we all left the class and we watched everything. I was in queens so I was far enough away to be safe but I could see everything. I have lived in Manhattan my whole life and I did not know 1 person who perished and I am very thankful for that though I know many who were there and horribly affected.
I can't even put into words how I feel about 9/11 but it is something I will never forget and I can't even watch footage of it on TV.
That being said...I think it's important that people know what happend so it is not forgotten and all of the people who lost their lives should be memorialized but I don't condone making a buck off of the event. That is just my opinion. I could go on and on about this but I wanted to make this as short as possible.
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i'm not disassociated from it. it was a terrible, awful tragedy. to be honest, i'm not in favor of any realistic movies about any tragedies. my only point is that i don't see how everyone can be so upset about the 9/11 movie and not upset by the holocaust image which was not taken seriously. personally, i can't disassociate from either one.
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Then SNUFF films should be legal..?
CokeMonkey |
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Bonnie Blue, I'm with yue.
j..
I hear ya. I think the Auschwitz thing is way back there in the past and humans seem to connect with contemporary events. Back then, WWI was probably not as painful as WWII.
FMouie |
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Violet, I saw that documentary also. Chilling. There is no need for a movie. With the documentaries and news coverage, there is nothing to add. The movies Pearl Harbor & Saving Private Ryan were 50 years after WWII, and those involved still found it painful to watch and relive.
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'Make this movie, then be sure to send all the proceeds to the families who are without spouses/parents. '
Word.
'Course it will never happen.
Who wants to see this movie? I'll tell you who: tourists.
The same folks who come here to NYC from the flyover states and Europe and buy 9/11 tshirts and mugs and pose all smiling and have their pics taken in front of ground zero as if they're in fucking DIsneyland.
Sick of these people.
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01.06.06 - 2:53 pm | #
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Yes j, that is my point. Some people here are doing complete 180's from yesterday. I don't understand why this movie being made is getting such a bad response. Actually, I can, but I will bite my tongue.
Yet these same liberal hippies were arguing with others who were upset about a holocaust pic.
I also am a liberal hippie, I am for the pic and the making of this film. If you don't want to see it don't. I probably will, unless it really sucks.
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01.06.06 - 2:53 pm | #
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My husband had to entertain a business associate from London who wanted to see 2 things:
1. The place where Lennon was shot
2. The World Trade Center
Nuff Said.
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 2:55 pm | #
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gg--
yeah, exactly. while i found the picture totally inappropriate, at least people's opinions from yesterday would make sense if everyone were cracking 9/11 jokes now.
j |
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FMouie: thank you la
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01.06.06 - 2:56 pm | #
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It's not so much the making of the movie, which does bother me but the fact that hollywood people are going to make money off of the tragedy.
Those who will see it...my question...did you live through it? Did you know anyone who did? Just wondering.
Even though I said I wasnt going to say more, I will.
So, I was stuck in Queens that day, I couldnt get back to my place in Manhattan as I was driving and wasn't allowed to come back. When I did come home...mind you, I'm on the Upper West Side and I had my kitchn window open a crack...my whole apartment smelled like rotting flesh and there was soot and dust all over my kitchen. Now, why would I want to see a movie about this? Why would anyone who lived it?
I agree with the time issue. Had I lived during WWII, I would probably have issue with Schindler's List but I didn't.
Just my thoughts
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Born and raised in Manhattan.
Worked at 200 Liberty Street.
My city was devastated.
My family, friends, and fellow New Yorkers were devastated.
A documentary, fine. A movie with this silver-spoon-fed piece of shit in the lead - never.
My thesis was on the Holocaust and Stalin. Myriad papers on slavery and the almost-total eradication of our Native Peoples. The depth of ALL THESE tragedies is beyond my ken, but most definitely
in my heart to this day. So is 9/11.
All of you who complained about yesterdays picture and analogy - that is EXACTLY what it was, AN ANALOGY.
A movie about 9/11 witnessed by everyone in the world as it happened (or close to)? I think not.
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Dayum, Miz, you go girl!
Mouse |
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The first 20 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan" are wrenching and after unsticking my fingernails from my seat, I enjoyed the rest of the movie.
Later I asked my Dad, a WWII veteran, did he want to see it, that it was a really well-made film. He said "no I was there, I don't need to see it".
You see my point? The war ended 60 years ago but it still is hard for veterans to watch. Those affected by 9/11 will be similarily affected. They may never want to see a movie on the subject.
Violet |
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Silver spooned asshole Nicholas COPPOLA from MALIBU no fucking less, MIZ...
CokeMonkey |
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CokeMonkey..
tried snuff in the 70's. made me sneeze. a movie? sounds boring.
FMouie |
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Loozer (adorable avatar!) I just saw you comment. I see we were making the same point. And I agree.
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Too soon. I could see making a film 10-20 years from now so that younger generations could learn about what had happened that day. There's already documentaries that do that now actually and there's no need for dramatization. But then again, how many Pearl Harbor dramatizations are there?
paula |
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01.06.06 - 3:02 pm | #
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Cute FMouie. But you should have rhymed it!!! There's your genuis!
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 3:04 pm | #
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Its hard enough watching documentaries on 9/11. This is one I will difinately miss.
Oliver Stone lost his mojo years ago.
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Miz and Coke, I am with you.
Us NYers rock. Not to say other people don't also but I have never seen people come together as they have in times of tragedy in this city and for that I am grateful and I think this is the greatest place. OK, I'm done with that.
Bonnie Blue |
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Bonnie Blue,
I lived in Manhattan for a few years before moving to California. I had moved just one year prior to 9/11.
I have many friends in NYC. I remember not being able to get a call into NYC for 2 days to see if people that I knew were ok. I had a friend to worked in the American Express building right on the side of the WTC. It was one of the buildings that they didn't think would hold up, but did.
I haven't been back to NYC since. I feel that the vibe of the city is forever changed.
None of this changes what I feel about Hollywood (my current home) making a movie about it. I think that several movies should be made about it. I look forward to seeing it through the eyes of different people. There are so many stories to tell, and I would like to hear them.
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They should make a movie about a greasy film director that does drugs, drives drunk and jumps at his own shadow.
I might go see that.
GetFlix |
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Exactly my point. Give it time, and use a documentary as a tool with which to inform others, not a money-making fucking dramatization.
CokeMonkey - the only reason this tool made it in Howood is because of NEPOTISM.
Hey Mouse! Sorry for the vitriol all, but really, when will tragedy-reenactments-for-money end?
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Not Anon...
Wanting to see things through the eyes of others is one thing...a documentary but using hollywood and fictionalizing the event and making millions off of it is unacceptable.
Bonnie Blue |
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I lived in Manhattan for many years, it's my favorite city in the world. Hence my name: GG = GothamGal (it sounds like a superhero).
I plan to move back this very year. I think it's the most exciting place in the world to live and I look forward to it.
I am sensitive about 9/11. Those images will forever be ingrained in my head. The images of the Holocaust are equally as disturbing to me, as I have many Jewish friends.
I said this yesterday and I meant it: laughing about something puts you are the road to healing. Otherwise, you may just wallow in your despair. I look forward to the day when 9/11 can be funny.
It reminds me of a South Park episode where they declared it was now ok to make fun of AIDS.
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Miz, no worries. I totally felt you on that. Wish me luck tonight, baby!
Mouse |
01.06.06 - 3:13 pm | #
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Well, GG...we have freedom in America...so they can make fun out of anything!!!!! (There is a limit...I think that a sick attitude)
CokeMonkey |
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Nic Coppola, again? I thought his 60 minutes were up! I'm NEVER seeing another hokey ass Nic Cage movie. The most overrated, overacting, actor in Hollywood.
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GG, I'm sorry but I can't agree with you. I have no problem laughing at a lot of things, many of which are far from PC but 9/11 will never be funny to me. There is no part of it at all that I can see any humor in. I take offense to trying to find humor in it.
As for the holocaust, I dont see anything funny about that either. I didnt see yesterday's picture as something against the holocaust, I saw it as a comparison, in somewhat bad taste but not something ridiculing the holocaust. I do not say this as a friend of jewish people, I say it as a jew myself.
Good thing this is a free country and we can all have our opinions and voice them.
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Yes CokeMonkey, but your limit differs from my limit which differs from everybody's else's. So why would you get to decide my limit or vice versa?
There are many things out there that I think are totally despicable, but that's not my judgment call. Everybody should be able to live their life freely, as long as it is not hurting others.
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01.06.06 - 3:18 pm | #
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Good luck, Mouse?
Babe - you are deliciously witty, funny, intelligent and gorgeous!
"You don't need no stinkin' luck"!
Go show him the way it's done! ** Yee ha! Su-eeee!**
He's the lucky one, girl! *hugs*
MizRo |
01.06.06 - 3:19 pm | #
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GG- I think we can agree that making fun of people who are dying is pretty fucking rude.
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 3:21 pm | #
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Exactly Bonnie Blue,
I don't expect anyone to agree with me. I just expect people to respect other people's wishes or opinions. I am sure that we laugh at different things, especially since I am a sillyhead.
I am just saying if you (in general) don't want to see it, don't. I think that you can voice your opinion and make a louder statement with money that complaining.
For example: I hate WalMart, they are pure evil and ruining America (my opinion). So I don't shop there. I don't write letters or tell others not to shop there because they won't listen. Everyone needs to see things for themselves.
GG's Avatar |
01.06.06 - 3:22 pm | #
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Somehow I think the whole idea is just in really really bad taste, no matter how Hollywood tries to rationalize making this film.
Billie |
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01.06.06 - 3:23 pm | #
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Cokemonkey,
You hypocrite! What if we make fun of Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan dying? Will people get angry or laugh?
GG's Avatar |
01.06.06 - 3:24 pm | #
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Look, if the KKK put up a billboard outside my house, and it was legal freedom of expression, I would show MY freedom of expression by burning it to bloody bits.
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 3:25 pm | #
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CokeMonkey and if you were caught and found guilty, you would pay a fine and go to jail for arson.
I am not pro KKK! I would be pretty pissed off to see a billboard by them in my neighborhood, but I don't have the right to burn it down and either do you.
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01.06.06 - 3:27 pm | #
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Paris Hilton and Hohan CHOOSE to be out there, on the red carpet. I am a cilivan. Those bitches in Hollywood take the benefits (money, fame, power) with danger of taking and having the judgement of others. Thats why the get all the free designer shit to wear, they get photograped. I dont.
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 3:29 pm | #
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Personally, I can't wait for the day someone can find something funny to make me laugh about 9/11 because that shit really fucked me up. And actually, I've changed my mind since my first post. Now I don't care about them making a movie per se--it's just that you KNOW that shit is going to be so not true. If it were a biopic about a particular person or group of people it might be o.k.--but it's going to be a bunch of made up bullshit and that's probably why it bothers me.
Nee |
01.06.06 - 3:29 pm | #
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GG- I am in nooo way picking on you, but I would proudly go to jail for my beliefs.
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 3:30 pm | #
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It sounds like a boring, like a cheesy 70s disaster flick, and it's in bad taste.
sanguinovorous |
01.06.06 - 3:30 pm | #
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Why it's too soon:
From AP (2 days ago)
"Family members of Sept. 11 victims will be able to enter a private room in the World Trade Center memorial and look through a window at a chamber storing more than 9,000 pieces of unidentified human remains, development officials said."
GG
I see what you're saying but we have a long way to go before we get there (there are still over 1,500 unidentified poeple who died that day awaiting more sophisticated DNA testing.) A sensationalist Hollywood dramatization by a has-been, conspiracy nut-job isn't about healing, it's a blatant attempt to profit off this tragedy.
Peaches |
01.06.06 - 3:30 pm | #
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I liked Nic in Valley Girl! Too soon maybe but do I have to go....NO. Freedom of choice right there
thepaganone |
01.06.06 - 3:32 pm | #
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AACKKKK!! Some show!! Poor bastards!!
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 3:32 pm | #
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The movie will be a piece of crap, just like JFK was.
I wouldn't make fun of Paris dying. I make fun of her living. My only exception to that is if she died from rabies she got from the kinkajou. Cause that would be funny.
Jan |
01.06.06 - 3:33 pm | #
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CokeMonkey,
So if you choose to be famous, then we can make fun of your death? I didn't realize that your "Death not Funny" stance had a "famous" clause. You are going to have to disclose the fine print from now on.
Also, back to the arson:
The Constitution has a freedom of speech part, but it doesn't have a freedom of arson part.
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01.06.06 - 3:33 pm | #
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i don't know if it even matters if it's about healing or not... i think what gg is saying (and please jump in if i am wrong, gg) is that everyone has a right to release whatever kind of media they want. consumption of that media is a personal choice.
j |
01.06.06 - 3:34 pm | #
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Hun, this is geting wacky. You cant debate 9/11 and Hohan & Paris Hilton.
Apples and oranges.
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 3:35 pm | #
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Cokemonkey,
I don't feel like I'm being picked on. This is the best conversation that I've had on Dlisted.
Peaches,
Oh I agree, I can't laugh about it either. Although I have laughed at some sick things. I am just trying to say that people need to get past the tragedy. It's been 4 and a half years. If this was a death in the family, your friends would tell you to seek conseling to get on the right track.
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01.06.06 - 3:36 pm | #
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j,
really I am saying a lot of words just to say that. 
I want to kill the people who make movies like Cheaper by the Dozen 2. I think that it is the dumbing down of our society that we would accept such low levels of entertainment. But, alas, I cannot kill them, so I decide not to go see that POS!!
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01.06.06 - 3:39 pm | #
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totally, gg. although, i mean, i totally loved cheaper by the dozen 1, soooo... 
j |
01.06.06 - 3:40 pm | #
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'I am just trying to say that people need to get past the tragedy. '
GG
As I said earlier there are still over 1000 bodies awaiting identification though sophisticated DNA testing - how can the these families & friends move on?
Couldn't Hollywood wait until those families had a chance to find out what hapened to their loved ones?
Peaches |
01.06.06 - 3:50 pm | #
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nicholas cage is lucky enough to be born into the coppola family. because he sucks.
too early for a 9/11 movie?
i don't know, i'm still coping with the tragedy that is nicholas cage.
tim |
01.06.06 - 3:54 pm | #
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Let's all agree to disagree...
It is a highly sensitive subject: to each his own.
If they make a "movie", I will not see it.
MizRo |
01.06.06 - 3:54 pm | #
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GG: It WAS a death in my family and let me tell you--it's not easy to get over some shit like this whether it's been 4 years or 40. It's not like my dad had cancer or got hit by a car or even died in a NORMAL plane crash. And by normal I mean there's a mechanical or human error and the plane goes down. This dude was sitting in his office doing his job and a fucking PLANE came into his building. I'm sure it's easy for some people to "get past the tragedy" but my family has a liiiiiitle difficulty doing that.
Nee |
01.06.06 - 4:03 pm | #
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That being said, make the fucking movie and if anyone wants to see it more power to them. I saw "Faces of Death" when I was about 10 (telling my age) and that shit fascinated me so I'm sure there's an audience for this too. And yes, I did eventually get over my fixation with the people eating the monkey brain!
Nee |
01.06.06 - 4:05 pm | #
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Sorry for your loss, Nee.
MizRo |
01.06.06 - 4:06 pm | #
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Peaches:
My lawyers won't allow me to speak for Hollywood as a whole.
Nee:
Ok, so you can't get past that. I understand. Why does that deprive me from seeing the movie? Now I may be becoming insensitive, but why should your pain impact me?
This is simple: All I am saying is, don't go if you don't want to. I believe that admission to movies is still voluntary. You may never get over this, so if we wait for everyone, then nothing will ever get done.
Maybe making this movie is part of the healing process for others.
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01.06.06 - 4:12 pm | #
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Nee,
I am not trying to rude. I understand death very well. I am the last surviving member of my family, all the others are gone.
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01.06.06 - 4:13 pm | #
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Oliver Stone movies always have to be the most SOMETHING. This is just upping the ante. He likes having dialogue and shock surround his films - remember Natural Born Killers?
Of course, Alexander sucked. And he didn't need to cast the guy from Raising Arizona.
sarah |
01.06.06 - 4:14 pm | #
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After all this, let me be clear that I am almost positive that Oliver Stone will fuck this movie up badly. It will be over the top like Liberace. So I have been babbling to defend his right to make a POS.
That's life! At least that's my life on this lazy Friday.
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01.06.06 - 4:21 pm | #
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GG: I don't think you're being rude at all--just expressing your opinion. I agree with you--I have totally changed my mind-people have a right to see whatever they want and if they want to see this then go right ahead. Shit, it's GOT to be better than Glitter...
Nee |
01.06.06 - 4:26 pm | #
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ANYTHING is better then Glitter...
MizRo |
01.06.06 - 4:28 pm | #
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MizRo:
This is truly something that I hardly ever talk about except online so thanks...
Nee |
01.06.06 - 4:29 pm | #
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*BIG HUG*
MizRo |
01.06.06 - 4:33 pm | #
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*BIG HUG RIGHT BACK*
Nee |
01.06.06 - 4:34 pm | #
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Do you think hollywood would be tacky enough to incoproate a Titanic-like love story into the works?
madonnaveronicalouiseciccone |
01.06.06 - 4:36 pm | #
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staying out of this debate except to say a big fat WORD to this:
folks who come here to NYC from the flyover states and Europe and buy 9/11 tshirts and mugs and pose all smiling and have their pics taken in front of ground zero as if they're in fucking DIsneyland.
Sick of these people.
Peaches | 01.06.06 - 2:53 pm
FUCK YES, Peaches. I go into a blind rage every time I see that shit.
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01.06.06 - 4:53 pm | #
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*Big Hug* to everyone?? And a cocktail???
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 4:54 pm | #
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CokeMonkey: HELL YEAH--Let's see...I'd like a Cosmo...matter of fact, fuck the fruity shit and just give me the vodka!!
Nee |
01.06.06 - 4:56 pm | #
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and a big, fatty!! or 3!!
OK - I'm really out! I love you all, seriously!
MizRo |
01.06.06 - 4:59 pm | #
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OMG, Let me say that people who are selling 9/11 t-shirts and mugs are low. WTF is up with that? That is pure profiteering off of tragedy. That kind of sickens me.
Nee, sorry for your loss and good luck to you.
To the rest: thank you for a conversation that didn't spiral into a name-calling circus. It was nice to hear other people's views.
2:15 on a Friday and I am so ready to get the fuck out of here!
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01.06.06 - 5:18 pm | #
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More re written revisionist Hollywood Bullshit.
Why not a docu about The TRUTH?
Michael Moore just began to scratch the surface in F 9/11
Oh right! I forgot , if the REAL story came out , we'd have to impeach/fire/imprison 2 /3rds of our govt. requiring fat lazy Americans to actually DO something other than eat shit fuck & watch fuglies like Ho Han on TV.
sheez. we are fuc't. really fuct.
LiesLiesLies Yeah! |
01.06.06 - 5:21 pm | #
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can't even comment... lost friends... too hard even now 
KatieScarlett |
01.06.06 - 5:23 pm | #
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Nee: My thoughts exactly... We DListers need to keep the love for the MK!!
CokeMonkey |
01.06.06 - 5:53 pm | #
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Stone's just an opportunist snake oil salesman. His early movies were good, but his star faded long ago. Too much booze, blow and boys.
There's nothing worse than an over-the-hill bullshitter who actually starts to believe his own bullshit.
brent |
01.06.06 - 5:53 pm | #
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i dont mind them making a movie about 9-11, i just wont see it, i've seen a little bit of the doc on it, i couldnt watch it, i've seen pictures of people falling out of the WTC & start crying, i get really upset seeing pictures of that day, because i think-that somewhere someones lost afamily member,that was someones friend, someone loved that person & now they're gone.
a movie about this kind of subject matter should be treated with respect,i dont think stone will do it justice (alexander)but i could be wrong
Julia |
01.06.06 - 6:40 pm | #
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what the fuck are they making a 911 movie for, when it just happened like yesterday.
why would i waste my money watching what has been placed by the press over and over again.
to add to insult, they put that boring idiot cage as the star, he can even act, he acts as if he is sleep working. BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!11
john |
01.06.06 - 7:02 pm | #
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It's just like 'Titanic'. You know how it's gonna end, but they tack on a cliched love story to reel people in.
Gag |
01.06.06 - 7:56 pm | #
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this is bad taste
Madrid |
01.06.06 - 8:45 pm | #
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Not only do I despise Nicholas Cage but I think that this is something that does not need to be made into a movie.
I personally do not want to attempt to "relive" that day-- no matter how shitty Hollywood makes it.
ConverseSneakers |
01.06.06 - 9:44 pm | #
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Too soon - actually, there should never be a movie made about it - a documentary is one thing, a movie made to capitalize on such a historically devastating event is gag-worthy, in my book. Am I alone in saying that everytime you see any footage of 9-11 and the days following makes me sick?
Erin |
01.06.06 - 11:06 pm | #
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One last thing - what's the ending supposed to be, exactly? Maybe if it's a happy one, Bush could pull his head out of his ass long enough to watch the tactics of Hollywood film makers and figure a way out of the hole he's been digging himself....probably not.
Erin |
01.06.06 - 11:07 pm | #
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It's based on a true story, N.Cage plays the last firefighter pulled out from the towers alive. The firefighter is actually from my town. Tt's about his life, and this other firefigher's.
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01.07.06 - 12:42 am | #
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I tihnk its fine, after all Americans should learn to accept the past and move on.
But i still won't watch the movie though, not interesting to me at all.
Fug. |
01.07.06 - 1:35 am | #
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YOU AMERICANS NEED TO GET OVER 9/11! GEEZ! IT HAPPENED, IT'S DONE!
Anonymous |
01.07.06 - 1:41 am | #
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i agree, this should be documentary only. a stupid cheesy movie will only belittle the memories.
mpcmike |
01.07.06 - 2:14 am | #
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I BET ALL YOU BITCHES WILL BE IN LINE TO SEE THIS CHIT!!!
LIARS LIARS LIARS!!!!!!!
Anonymous |
01.07.06 - 4:35 am | #
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it's about the brave firefighters. i want to see it. do you all fucking sharing a brain to agree on everything? or are these mk's multiple personalities.
Free damn country or not?! |
01.07.06 - 6:48 pm | #
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hey
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01.07.06 - 9:10 pm | #
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Americans just don't get over this kind of event. You take yourselves too serious,people.
me¬¬ |
01.08.06 - 9:52 pm | #
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6:48/ half these names is one person.
anon |
01.08.06 - 10:42 pm | #
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Why is it OK to make films about the Rwandan Genocide (Hotel Rwanda), the Iraq War (Jarhead) and the like, but NOT 9/11?
The more you Americans hang on to this tragic event in the way that you do, you will NEVER get over it.
I dont wish to hurt or offend anyone, but cinema is there as a window on reality, and a mirror of our lives.
Maybe Oliver Stone is a bad choice, but wait until you know a bit more about what the film is like before you write it off.
Verity |
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