No wonder your wife left you, you stupid freak!
What a fucking asshat.
I still can't believe it was almost 5 years ago. It feels like yesterday
Yea MK I keep seeing and hearing more of this theory...Scary shit!
How does a plane crash in a field and leave no debris?
so what's he been doin lately??? has he hooked up with anyone???? hookers don't count......
He should stick to what he's best at: three ways, whores and lots of drugs. Now thats the Charlie will all know and love.
Yes, and the holocaust wasn't real either. Dumbass.
I think that making the jump from "looked like a controlled demolition" to "the US government did it" is crazy talk. I wouldn't necessarily say there isn't a sort of government cover up if say, the terrorists planted bombs on the Towers themselves, and didn't use just the planes, cause more bombs on the Towers would make the government look much dumber than just the planes, considering there'd already been bombs there and duh, now bombs again.
But yeah, I think Charlie Sheen is crazy.
Well it's nice to know he thinks about something besides strippers, cocaine and his wanker. I wonder how much cash he's blown on hookers this week? Probably about 10 grand! Maybe he should stick to what he does best - boozing, tripping on acid and getting his dick wet. Bitch.
That is so ridiculous. Charlie is on drugs.
I didn't realize Heidi Fleiss and the rest of your Hollywood "circle" were engineers! The closest you've ever gotten to a government conspiracy was when the Seals refused to cooperate with your Oscar winning performance in "Navy Seals". You're an embarassment to your family and your country, so shut the fuck up!
there's nothing wrong with asking questions.
i don't know enough about it to advance any theories, but you have to allow people to disagree with the accepted explanations. He has the same right to do that as any non-celebrity.
And he's not saying it didn't happen, he's saying that he has doubts regarding the official story.
http://www.reopen911.org/
I believe it. It makes sense, because the US government sucks.
Yeah, I think that wwtdd.com summed it up pretty well. The guy has no credibility. Even if it all were a conspiracy, no one will ever believe it now that Charlie Sheen is rattling off at the mouth about it.
Uh, I don't want to sound like a nut, but he might be referring ot a very well documented study that came out last year.(maybe?). It is a DVD titled "Discovering the Evidence" I have a copy. It does make compelling arguements that the individuals who flew the planes into the Towers may have been in cahoots with Dubya and his evil stooges.
Just a thought...We are now in this mess for what good reason?
Ok, I will cop to being a nut.
Oh Charlie, another crazy actor! Thank God he doesn't write his own lines.
and here we have another example of why celebrities need to just shut the fck up. They just open their mouths and speak and some dumbwhitted person who doesnt know any better is gonna go and believe every word he says. His "circles"?!?! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!! would those be the castandcrew on your 2 & 1/2 men set?????????
shut the fock up
and i conclude my rant with:
What a fucking asshat.
Mousie | 03.23.06 - 11:42 am | #
Why doesnt Charlie stick to fucking prostitutes and his lame tv show, celebrities are not theorists, know it alls or even college graduates.
FUCKING RETARD... I would guess that Jordans son has a better theory than this shithead
"the research I've done and around my circles"
And what would those circles be? The ones you fill up with your boner while your wife is carrying your child?
I also don't know enough to comment but it does seem a bit odd.
Dumbass... he has no friends, no circles except those left in crop fields by his alien buddies
Every event in the history of the world has a conspiracy theory attached to it...why should this be any different?
That doesn't mean that it isn't completely nuts, just predictable.
And Charlie Sheen is an asshole.
When did this interview take place? St. Patrick's Day?
What a dumb mother fucker! I hate him so much. He needs to go stick his old cock in some whore and keep him dumb mouth shut.
It's ok Mousie -- noone really knows enough..
sad but true.
oh never mind.. the crop circles and designs were done by the government too.... i forgot 
maybe, just perhaps we are on a strange planet and everyone at DListed are the normal ones!!!!
He's a jerk, but he has a point.
Go to the link below to see a very interesting site. http://www.reopen911.org/
Geez, I'm embarrased to admit I was a Charlie Sheen fan.
Wait.....he's been talking to his dad too much.
It amuses me to no end that those who are so quick to call Dubya an idiot, are also the first to believe that he was the mastermind behind such a well-orchestrated conspiracy.
if the govt did accomplish this and accomplish a man on the moon (some think it was fake) then why cant the government force tampon companies to make a better NON leaking tampon?
HUH??? HELLO????
I get tired of wearing black pants for a week dammit.
If he wants to get some positive media attention, how about starting by not repeatedly getting caught screwing around with the nastiest of the nastiest whores instead of just trying to SOUND like a caring guy. Actions speak louder than words, assholio.
He's as dumb as a stump...
I can understand how people could think the way Charlie does because the whole thing does seem so improbable. Even the al-qaeda guys were surprised that the Towers actually collapsed. But, sometimes things that seem completely improbable just happen and it's very difficult for some people to accept this.
It's like the JFK assasination. It's just very hard to accept that some loner freak with a cheap rifle was able to kill the almighty President of the United States, and one of the most popular and loved ones too. But, fact is, it really was just Oswald acting on his own. This has been established time and time again by many serious independent investigations (sorry, Oliver Stone groupies!).
Like the eloquent bumper sticker says: shit happens.
YAY MK CALLED PEOPLE BITCHES. HE IS A HILARIOUS AND A GENIUS
Memo to kitkatwoman: EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
If there is some kind of coverup, they need to elect someone else as their spokeswhore. Who is really going to take Charlie Sheen seriously, drug addled pervert that he is.
Not a fan of conspiracy theories at all and this hasn't changed my mind. Islamic fundamentalists hate America with a passion and tend to be pretty well educated. These people also see it as a honour to die for their cause, so what happened on 9/11 was well within their capabilities. 9/11 was definitely the most horrific thing that has happened in my lifetime. I think out of respect for the families and their continuing suffering, people should put the conspiracy theories to bed, unless they have absolute concrete evidence not to.
on the Discovery channel now they are showing a recreation of Marilyn Monroes death scene and how and how not she could have been murdered or commit suicide. Those cops in the 60's were fucking idiots, i Swear
as a former law enforcement officer, i can tell you unequivocally that a motivated man with a box cutter can cut your throat in less than a second. to even suggest that an airine pilot would subject his plane to cause that kind of destruction is sheer lunacy. thousands of innocent people lost their lives that day to an unprovoked act of terrorism, plain and simple. if charlie sheen believes anything else, he is a delusional idiot.
Josh & Brody's daughter, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
While I don't think I really believe this theory of Sheen's, I will say that, in light of the snow job this Bush administration has done over the last several years, I am far more open "other" theories. I sure as fuck don't believe anything they have to say.
I do think it's very likely that the plane that went down in a field in Pennsylvania was shot down by our military. They really had no choice since it was headed back to DC, but it's something the government has never owned up to.
If you'll recall, there was very little press about that plane back in Sept 2001 in comparison to the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. We were told, "okay, that plane crashed, made a giant hole, is completely disintegrated, and there is absolutely nothing to investigate." The only thing we knew about that flight was about the heroic passengers on board. It's as if the questions about that crash were deliberately rerouted to focus on the stories that tugged at our hearts, but nothing else is known. If you really think about it, the whole Pennsylvania crash remains shrouded in mystery. It's all very suspicious, especially in light of an administration that seems to be incapable of telling the truth. (i.e., it is becoming more and more apparent that Army Ranger Tillman's death was criminal and has been covered up by the Army.)
It all makes me very sad.
You know what Rabies??
You ARE always on this site. Don't you have a job, fucko?
I hate you ya good for nothin bitch.
fuck Charlie Sheen. Send him over to pay Osama a fuckin visit...let's see how far fetched 9-11 is then.
the bitch can eat shit and die.
Brent--Yeah, my mom was watching a documentary on these people (from Australia I think) who recreated the entire scene of JFKs assasination with true to life (including bone density, etc.) dummies and they managed to get that special bullet he used to do the exact thing it was supposed to. Any expert who looked at the report would have been like, "no fucking way" but shit seriously does happen in wonky ways sometimes.
Charlie's either an imbecile or he's been dropping acid again. He's definitely his father's son. It's amazing that whenever anything bad happens in America, there's always a theory of "government conspiracy" that follows. It implies that individuals or groups of individuals aren't capable of doing anything evil or diabolical on their own, without the aid of government. I guess Jeffrey Dahmer was really working for the CIA when he murdered all his victims. Sheesh!!
"the research I've done and around my circles"
If your circle is made of coke, then it all starts to make sense.
fuckin' dipshit.
I live near the FLIGHT 93 crash site and they are having to massively review the memorial they picked.
"Crescent of Embrace" will feature a Tower of Voices, containing 40 wind chimes -- one for each passenger and crew member who died -- and two stands of red maple trees that will line a walkway caressing the natural bowl shape of the land. Forty separate groves of red and sugar maples will be planted behind the crescent, and a black slate wall will mark the edge of the crash site, where the remains of those who died now rest.
The problem with it though is the winning design chosen to memorialize the heroes and victims of 9/11's Flight 93 is in the shape of a red crescent that looks -- either accidentally or intentionally -- remarkably like an Islamic crescent.
pic of design: http://www.zombietime.com/
flight...al_crescent.gif
http://www.zombietime.com/flight...morial_project/
Anon---Again, I have been all but missing from this site for the better part of 3 weeks so you don't know what you're talking about. Furthermore, I am at work right now. I'm a computer lab monitor...I'm bored...fuck off. You're just pissed because I get paid good money to do homework and chat on dlisted.
Rabies I saw that JFK one too
"How does a plane crash in a field and leave no debris?"
Who wrote that? I'm so embarrassed for you!
I'm sure the people that got to clean up the bodies of children, infants and other peole and debris could tell you where it was you fucking idiot!
furthermore, these terrorists were not only trained to fly airplanes, but the SPECIFIC airplane which they hijacked. that is a documented fact.
kitkat..holy crap. Yikes, that can't be good.
If you look to the past, the official story is rarely the true one.
If you look to the past, the official story is rarely the true one.
Uh, Anon...
Leave Rabies the fuck alone...at least she has intelligent and entertaining comments.
Three years of Denise having his cajones in a vice have cut off the supply of blood to his brain. Too bad.
L.A., you have some good points. your administration will tell you basically nothing.
charlie's "group of people" MUST include alec baldwin. fucking fag idiots.
www.flight93memorialproject.org
http://www.rinf.com/articles/911.html
I'll keep my opinions of GWB to myself...all I can say is thank god I don't live in the States.
we are glad you dont live here either! 
Anon at 12:05, the coroner called to the scene in PA has gone on record that there were no bodies in the "wreckage."
Suspicious to say the least.
to: "thank god i'm canadian"
Amen! Glad you live there too!
Jesus, how many hillbilly red-staters post here?
yea in a way it makes sense. a few people on a plane hijacks it, armed with boxcutters? thats kinda remarkable? all the passengers just became their hostages? kinda farfetched. i wonder did anyone get slashed before the plane crashed?
and then the last plane that crashed, the media said that this lone white guy says some shit that gets the other passengers in gear and they fight the hijackers off only to crash anyway?
Yeah the building collapsed. So fucking what.
Charlie and the rest of you that are at Thetan level 8.3, living on an island with Tupac and Elvis, think it looks like a controlled demoliiton.
But i ask what is your frame or reference? When was the last time you saw a plane slam into a skyscraper?
You see kids this is why we stay away from drugs. Stay in school, if not, you too will say stupid shit.
thank god i'm canadian | 03.23.06 - 12:09 pm | #
Ditto.
my kids LOVE Nutella!
Rabies, ignore him/her/it... it's not worth it, they're just trying to start something as usual.
I'm at my desk bored out of my ass myself.
Honestly, between conspiracy theories and the old-school-musical-like antics on the Pete Doherty post...I'm moving to the UK. =)
If by conspiracy he means that the US government ignored all the warnings..then yes I have to agree. But Dubya is not smart enough to have masterminded the 9/11 attack. The government probably shot down the PA plane...There was a lack of bodies and wreckage to make the crash theory plausible...
I don't blame ANYONE for still questioning the US governments role in this tradegy...and I still don't understand how boxcutters would have proven a great enough threat to getting control of the plane...The pilots are trained to deal with hijackers so I find it suspicious that they would give control over to the terorists...(IMO)
BIGGEST CONSPIRACY THEORY, there is birth control for women but NONE FOR MEN?
WHAT THE HELL GIVES with that shit?
Well, I will wait for michael moore to make a movie about this before I make up my mind, but he does make a few valid points. Our government has been known to train the enemy before, so if the "hijackers" were really US government operatives that would truly suck, but I mean do you trust Bush/Cheney?
where is this INFORMATION that, there were no bodies?
I guess you never read of the residents in the area finding a foot w/a shoe attached or 'other' parts?
DONT BLAME IT IF YOU CANT NAME IT.
(goes to research)
FYI when planes go down things disintegrate to a point where all you can look for is pieces. Its nothing new. Ask the NTSB..wait they are part of the cover up too.
If the military shot it down, so what. If they didn't you would be complaining that the military isn't protecting you.
Did you know floride in our water negatively effects you bones in enough quantities...another conspriacy the EPA now.
It's too hard to believe anything these days on either side of the topic. In a time of photo and video editing, no evidence is ever going to be completely believable. And the stories we are hearing are from people involved in a traumatic event who probably didn't have a really clear grip on what was happening, they were just trying to survive.
No one will ever know and there is no use trying to get the government to come clean if it is a coverup. I mean look at how Congress had a private session to get to the bottom of the whole Iraq war thing...we never heard about it again after that.
Yay! Rabies, bring your goat and I'll show you a good time in London!
Wait... that sounds all wrong
OMG, If Charlie is going to re-write history we are in trouble. First off yes you can take over a plane with box cutters, hell you are only overpowering a couple of stewards and old pilots. Think about the time (before 9/11) that this happens, so the passengers think they are taking a trip to Cuba then go home, why fight.
As to the building, HELLO that is the way the Twin Towers was designed to fall....Charlie should take a look at engineering 101...dumb hollywood bitches should not disrespect the country that gives them so much, talk about disrespecting the lives of people lost, Charlie should look in the mirror and at the prostitutes he pays for...Dumb Ass...
I have to agree. With all the cocaine/booze Dubya indulged in, I don't think this guy could manage "Double Coupon Tuesday" at the local Kroger grocery store.
Flight 93 Remains, Aircraft Parts Recovered
Plane Pieces Unidentifiable
Posted: 5:35 p.m. EDT September 30, 2001
Updated: 12:09 p.m. EDT October 1, 2001
SHANKSVILLE, Pa. -- Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said that volunteers recovered more plane parts and human remains Sunday in the area where United Flight 93 crashed.
Miller said the human remains were being cataloged and would be processed for identification. The plane parts, he said, were unidentifiable.
"They're just very small parts of metal. You could never tell what they were," he said.
Though investigators ended the search Sept. 23, it was renewed Saturday after United Airlines consultants believed high winds and heavy rains may have shaken additional evidence out of the trees last week.
About 220 volunteers with the Southwestern Pennsylvania Emergency Response Group participated in the search, Miller said.
So far, 12 victims of the Boeing 757 crash that killed all 44 passengers have been identified, Miller said. He is refusing to release the names of those victims, saying he does not want to upset their families.
He said DNA testing will be used to identify the other victims, a process that could take months.
Miller said United Airlines would take control of the crash site Monday for cleanup.
http://html.thepittsburghchannel...930-
160926.html
Fuck you Anon! Rabies kicks ass.
can anyone here fly an airliner? if several motivated hijackers cut the pilot's throat and then declare "remain seated and you won't be hurt" what would you do? honestly, would you rush them and fight? the fact is the people on the two flights that crashed into the twin towers were probably praying and hoping they would come out of this. they didn't know their pilots were dead. they didn't know what was going to happen. apparently, the people on the penn. flight did, though, and they apparently knew they were doomed anyway, so they went down fighting. Heroes.
i agree with charlie ... im not saying that we did it ourselves but we certaintly knew about it beforehand and did nothing
I think its very telling that Liberals tend to categorize right-leaning people as "hillbillies" or "stupid" instead of actually listening to what they have to say. Very mature and intelligent approach to debating, there. Good job.
Yes the administration has issues...don't let me start on the "war/invasion" or Katrina. But the whole 9/11 thing was due to the fact as americans we got too cozy, thought we were indestructable. past administrations ACTIVELY decided to downsize the military, cut defense spending and worry about endagered turtles in Alaska. We got cozy, then we got pimp smacked.
To my fellow Canadians, I do love you, but don't think that the terrorists like you either.
I do like gravy on my fries...
And all conservatives categorize liberals as elitist, rich, bleeding heart hippies. See, it goes both ways.
mpcmike--From what I've heard, phone calls were made by people on the plane to their loved ones and such. They knew what was going on in New York. If I knew I was going to die anyway, I think I too would make a point of making sure they didn't accomplish their goal of hurting other people.
However, I have always found it scary (not odd or unbelievable though) that so many successful highjackings could occur at the same time. It really was a testament to the apathy of the airlines pre-9/11
i hate making this a political forum, but i get really burned by fucking morons.
pilots may be trained to deal with hijackers, but what the fuck are they supposed to do - stop flying the plane and go have a fistfight? for those of you who are doubtful of the ability to take over the plan w/ boxcutters i take that to mean you would be a fucking hero and save the day. bullshit. someone is ranting and raving in arabic and probably telling you in english taht you are about to die for islam b/c you're a fucking infidel...yah - you'd stand up. whatever.
secondly - say what yall want about GW...he took this war elsewhere. it's not being fought on American soil and personally - thank God. sure - governments fuck shit up and try to cover it up but the truth of the matter is we all live our safe little lives everyday and don't have to fear a terrorist attack. not since 9-11 has anything happened on US soil and it's not for a lack of will or trying on the part of those that despise America.
think bitches.
What do you all think about how, seen in hindsight, 9-11 cleared the way for the subsequent invasion of Afganistan and Iraq? Do you think that the US people would have been in support of a war without something to rile them up to their innermost core?
i agree with charlie ... im not saying that we did it ourselves but we certaintly knew about it beforehand and did nothing
caroline | 03.23.06 - 12:24 pm | #
You're smart. I hope you are embarrased for yourself. Really, you're one smart cookie.
When will celebrities just shut the fuck up?!
I mean all they have to do is memorize some lines and look pretty-how hard is that?
But No! they think we actually want to hear their stupid opinions 
I always hear people say Bush is great because we haven't had an attack since 9/11 (and by that I mean an attack on Americans. There have been plenty of attacks elsewhere). Well, you must think Clinton was stupendous because we had a total of zero attacks on US soil during his two terms.
probably, Rabies, but my point is that you couldn't blame them for being confused and terrified.
I have a friend who is very important to me who has been to Afghanistan twice and Iraq twice (there now). He is weary of the Iraq war (speaking of what you can do with a knife, watching the beheading videos on ogrish.com sometime...they are ruthless) but he said the changes in the human rights in Afghanistan were so compelling in his two tours that he knows he did the right thing.
Morticia - what about the thousands of innocent Iraqi's that have died since 2003 at the hands of what are essentially American led "terrorist" attacks?
You cannot say you believe the Iraq "war" is actually justified?
And GW took it elsewhere? well that's great for you. But spare a thought for the countries your government is trampling all over. Do you ever stop and wonder WHY so many countries round the world despise the US?
Who died and made you Gods?
lol CLINTON and now CLINTON is in cahoots w/Dubai now as well.. TISK TISK Mr. Past President
And this is the piece that some twits that read Defamer went crazy over?
Personally, I think the US military shot down flight 93 after it was hijacked to prevent it from heading for DC. A mere "crash" does not leave just itty bitty plane parts that are "unidentifiable."
Even with a bomb on board (like Lockerbie), there are still some chunks of plane and people left.
A couple of missiles...eh...not so much.
mpcmike--I was agreeing with you completely. =) Most of the people on those planes were acting like anyone would and keeping their shit together. Only one group didn't, died anyway, and were heroes.
"I think its very telling that Liberals tend to categorize right-leaning people as "hillbillies" or "stupid" instead of actually listening to what they have to say. Very mature and intelligent approach to debating, there. Good job."
I completely agree with this. I'm not ultra conservative, but I do notice that liberals are some of the most imature babies out there! They cannot hanndle other people's opinions. And I'm not trying to stereotype. I know tons and tons of liberals, and they all have that same quality. I just don't get it. I think most are just wanting to be liberal because it's "in" and that's what the celebs are doing. So sad.
Kitkatwoman, time to learn to read critically.
See this coroner's quote from another article:
"Even in the middle of it all, where trees were scorched and the Boeing 757's fuselage disintegrated in a crater that collapsed on itself to leave a gouge maybe 14 feet across, the destruction was so complete that it was hard to imagine what happened.
"It was as if the plane had stopped and let the passengers off before it crashed," Miller said."
http://www.post-gazette.com/
head...maker1015p2.asp
Notice that in your link, he discusses finding "human remains." That is not the same thing as finding a body or pieces of bodies.
Why do we care? Because if a plane CRASHED, you would find bodies or pieces of bodies.
If a plane were SHOT DOWN, you would find "remains"...that is to say, a tooth here, a hair there, which is basically what coroners are talking about when they say "remains."
I agree it's a somewhat subtle distinction- whether the plane crashed or was shot down. But I have no patience with our government's lying for no good reason.
What else are they lying about, and why?
so what about all the innocent iraqi's that have died? they had no future anyway. i'd rather die than be murdered by sadaam for losing a soccer game.
I figured the whole conspiracy thing was those people who said that it was a missile that hit the pentagon and not a plane. That was their first attempt at conspiracy theory. To which I must ask, "If indeed that plane did not hit the pentagon...where did all those people who were on it go then?"
LA
The way that the government uses the media to manipulate the public's perception is terrifying. It happens so much that it allows even the most far-fetched conspiracy theories to have some credence.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for this "war"* for a variety of reasons one being is i can't find a reason to be there, but I do not believe this was some scheme concocted by GWB to get us in the Iraq...maybe Cheney but not Dubya. j/k
*Seriously we won't win this confrontation. We are fighting for revenge, they are fighting for religion and a pinch of hate.
You fight harder whe you fight for God. You will kill yourself for God not another person.
See what I'm saying.
little lie, big lie?
rabies...i love you. The ppl got paid off. There are on the island with Tupac.
**i agree with charlie ... im not saying that we did it ourselves but we certaintly knew about it beforehand and did nothing
caroline | 03.23.06 - 12:24 pm | #**
She's 100% right. There's an FBI agent testifying before congress right now that he had information about the attacks and tried desperately for FOUR WEEKS to get the government to pay attention to him.
http://www.buffalonews.com/edito...321/
1072428.asp
wanting what other people have is a bitter pill to swallow...and the ends and means to secure it are never easy
She's 100% right. There's an FBI agent testifying before congress right now that he had information about the attacks and tried desperately for FOUR WEEKS to get the government to pay attention to him.
http://www.buffalonews.com/edito...321/ 1072428.asp
Bug Spray | 03.23.06 - 12:39 pm | #
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Yeah, but Clinton got a blow job.
He needs to go get a sex fix already, and shut the fuck right up.
I'll bet he "knows Psychiatry", too.
"And all conservatives categorize liberals as elitist, rich, bleeding heart hippies. See, it goes both ways."
i don't categorize liberals as that at all. they're mostly just fags and celeb wanna-be's. just people that want to "fit in". it's sad really.
So, all the "Charlie is on drugs," "Charlie should stick to banging hookers," "so glad you live in Canada," "Asshat", etc, etc...
You are saying those comments qualify as dignified debate?
Because the vast majority- if not all- of the conservative comments on this thread involve ad hominem attacks.
In fact, the "hillbilly" post appears to be in reply to a number of "stay in Canada"-type comments.
Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
kitkatwoman | 03.23.06 - 12:20 pm | #
Body parts would still be present if the plane was shot down..as I believe it was..
Anonymous | 03.23.06 - 12:32 pm
America is despised be cause the US has the money and with that comes the power. Since everyone wants it they hate the US. If you were a child slave in Africa, you'd hate America too.
Plus, American's are cocky, arrogant and stubborn...but hey, we can't be perfect.
"And all conservatives categorize liberals as elitist, rich, bleeding heart hippies. See, it goes both ways."
i don't categorize liberals as that at all. they're mostly just fags and celeb wanna-be's. just people that want to "fit in". it's sad really.
Anonymous | 03.23.06 - 12:40 pm | #
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Opps my bad. I mean to say they categorize them as 'fags' and 'wannabes.' Thanks for setting me straight.
Big Toe | 03.23.06 - 12:43 pm | #
No problem! Let me know if you need clarification on anything else.
lol
Wow, all these comments. Charlie would love all these hits.
What I want to know is-
Where is the Carlie Sheens Childrens Clothes Line??????? It is fashion week in LA and nothing. What kind of enerprenuer is he??? He could learn a thing or two from Melanie Griffin.
mmm
Thanks. I like to get my slurs correct.
Charlie needs shot down, end of story
Morticia | 03.23.06 - 12:28 pm | #
It's people like you that have that attitude that got us into this situation in the first place. So the war isn't being fought on American soil..hate to break it too you, but there are Americans living outside the US and they are targeted DAILY! Between Bush sr., Clinton, and Dubya they have managed to ailienate the middle eastern countries to an extreeme in their support of Isreal...that's why we will always be targets, cause people like you don't understand the destructive nature of our International policies!
What ever happened to Emilio Estevez????
I think there is a very good reason for people to hate the US. I agree with the bumper sticker "I love my country but fear my government". There was a very good book that I read called "why people hate the US" and they make some seriously valid points about our hypocritical nature. And, one man interviewed rationalized hatred of all Americans by the fact that we elect our president and congress to represent us so if they do something underhanded then we all did.
The US gave Iran the means to start enriching nuclear materials. Now we're mad at them. We supported Iraq and then we attacked them. We're buddy buddy with Turkey so we can use their land and airspace...but we will attack them in 5 years probably.
He loves bush.
At least Charlie has the $$ to move to Aruba or somewhere if he wants.
Another quote from the PA coroner:
"It's all aircraft parts, no human remains," Miller said. "We've collected them in 10 recycling bin-sized containers and eventually we'll turn them all over to United."
http://911research.wtc7.net/
cach...7_flight93.html
Emilio Estevez is doing BOBBY(2006) this is via WWW.IMDB.COM
Plot Outline: The story of the assassination of U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy, on June 6th, 1968, which centers around 22 people who were at the Ambassador Hotel where he was killed.
get this CELEBRITY LINEUP of the movie:
Credited cast:
Anthony Hopkins .... John Casey
Demi Moore .... Virginia Fallon
Sharon Stone .... Miriam
Elijah Wood .... William
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Harry Belafonte .... Nelson (attached)
Michael Bowen .... (attached)
London Bridges .... Washroom Attendant Henry
Joy Bryant .... Patricia
Nick Cannon .... Dwayne
Lori M. Cincotta .... Coconut Grove Club Patron
Emilio Estevez .... Tim
Dave Fraunces .... Senator Kennedy
Jeridan Frye .... Ethel Kennedy
Spencer Garrett .... David Novak
Rosemary Garris .... Campaign supporter
Brian Geraghty .... Cooper
Jerry Giles .... House detective
Helen Hunt .... Samantha
Joshua Jackson
David Kobzantsev .... Sirhan Sirhan (attached)
David Krumholtz .... Phil
Shia LaBeouf .... Jimmy
John Lavachielli .... Donnelly
Lindsay Lohan .... Diane
Gus Lynch .... Officer Callahan
William H. Macy .... Paul
Kevin McCorkle .... Fire Captain
David McDivitt
Scoot McNairy .... Beatnik #1
Svetlana Metkina .... Lenka Janacek
Caley Oakes-Bisson .... Waiter
Norm O'Neill .... Kennedy Aide
Kip Pardue
Jean-Pierre Parent .... Cook
Lisa Pepper .... Salesgirl
Freddy Rodríguez .... José
Dave Schuetz .... Campaign supporter
Orlando Seale
Denny Seiwell .... Bandleader/Coconut Grove
Martin Sheen .... Jack
Jennifer Sims .... Kennedy Aide
Oren Skoog .... Beatnik
Christian Slater .... Timmons
All I can say is be nice to Canada or else we won't let you all have any of our water when you run out! 
too many Americans are hating on each other, evidenced by some of the comments above that Americans are arrogant, cocky etc. Spend some time abroad and you'll know there are lots of types of people all over the place. If you think Americans are bad, get out of here and go somewhere else. It's people like this that make this country less of what it is and should be. Great, have an opinion but there are so many things great about this country that you don't have to always find the negatives and disregard the positives. Start standing up for your country... if you are from the US, that is. Get off the bandwagon and start coming up with some original thoughts and lines. As far as the Charlie comment, does anyone really believe this to be true? You might not like GW or the administration, but please, that is just not even called for.
Mia--can you send some moose down here too. My mom would be super happy, she loves them.
Don't forget, Big Toe, conservatives reserve the sole right to make childish attacks.
It's somewhat like a child who talks crap to adults all the time, but bursts into tears and cries "no fair!" when the adults point out, "if you keep this kind of behavior up, people will think you're an idiot."
morticia is a very smart noodle!I agree!
ppl..bodies disentergrate, building are designed to collapse, and we as americans put him in office. Especally the ones that DIDN"T vote.
perfect example of an American...Paris Hilton...i'd hate us too.
ugh the dreaded "P" word I hadnt seen yet today! Muzi! aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
h, tosses cordless keyboard across the room 
Thanks kitkatwoman!
I've always liked Emilio better than Charlie.
Muzi--"we as americans put him in office. Especally the ones that DIDN"T vote."
Actually. I'm more pissed that I did vote. Because of the way the electoral process works, Bush winning the majority in our state meant that my vote was handed to the man I didn't vote for. And, because CO's electoral process reform bill didn't pass, that's the way it will probably end up everytime.
I'm more likely to believe a conspiracy theory when it:
a)involves a government with a proven track record of bold-faced lies
b)results in a benefit or provides motivation to act upon a desired path of action (ie planned but unjustified invasions)
c)occurs in a time of unprecidented media manipulation
d)creates an atmosphere where debate on the subject at hand is discouraged and a culture of fear
Out of curiosity - why do you think it was really the result of "terrorists"? Aside from the "proof" you have through the media and official government statements, what actual things do you personally know to be true about the story firsthand?
absolutely, Rabies, and don't let that distractor discourage you, i enjoy reading your comments, as i'm sure many people do. this would be a boring-ass site if people couldn't post whenever they feel like it.
can you really be ANTI-WAR & support the US troops who are just doing their job? Just curious to see responses...
Chris | 03.23.06 - 12:51 pm | #
Look...I love America enough to put risk my life for it, giving more reason to say what i have to say. The great thing about this thread is that it is PROOF of what a great country it is...i refer you to the First Amendment...but to blindly think that everyone in the world is in love with us...don't be silly.
No I don't believe what Sheen has to say. I may be a confused lil' American but i am not an idiot.
Who the hell really cares about his political views other than the media? The guy is an idiot.
Another PA coroner quote:
"Once he was able to absorb the scene, Miller says, 'I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there.'"
http://www.biblenetworknews.com/
...62602_usa2.html
Are you all really okay with the government lying about shooting down this plane?
I was for the war in Afghanistan but no so much for Iraq. We had bigger fish to fry with Iran and N. Korea but we are being ultra-diplomatic with them. Iraq was not a clear threat at that time but yet diplomacy broke down? what? He's just trying to finish what his Daddy started.
I do support our soldiers though. They are doing their jobs. Most of us don't get shot at in our jobs so we hardly know how we would react. =)
I am antiwar, but I still respect and admire the people who are putting their lives on the line for me and my freedoms. They believe in what they are doing, and that is enough for me. They are there by choice. I have issues with shome of the recruitment tatics, but that is an other issue.
rabies...i still love you...but don't give up on voting...
Here's a conspiracy theory for you:
Any moment know there will be a post about Parasite doing something skanky or Britney looking like a beluga so that we are all distracted from this conversation and end up chatting about the same old diversions....
My buddy Jeremiah in Iraq is re-enlisting. It breaks my heart but I'm happy that he's cut out for it. He's over in the desert right now and I can't even imagine it. I don't think any western nations really know what it's like to risk being blown up when walking to school. The world is scarier than most people will ever know, but not Jeremiah...
Rabies | 03.23.06 - 1:04 pm | #
We had bigger fish to fry with Iran and N. Korea but we are being ultra-diplomatic with them. Iraq was not a clear threat at that time but yet diplomacy broke down? what? He's just trying to finish what his Daddy started
*you are dead on*
Getting shot at keeps you on your toes.
Jess, yeah the recruitment tactics NOW are very dicey with the declining enlistments. This is a news article and not my opinion, DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER(and this is just for LAW SCHOOLS):
And then this happens:
Supreme Court Hears Military Recruitment Case
The nation's top law schools lost a significant legal argument on Monday when a unanimous Supreme Court ruled that the federal government could withhold funding from schools that bar military recruiters in protest of the anti-gay "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
"Students and faculty are free to associate to voice their disapproval of the military's message," wrote Chief Justice John Roberts. "Recruiters are, by definition, outsiders who come onto campus for the limited purpose of trying to hire students — not to become members of the school's expressive association."
I do love it here, one example:
My bf works with a man from Africa who saw his dad being murdered for speaking out against the regime. He came over here with $100 and is now a successful man. He says we don't know how good we have it.
I say I am fully aware but it's this bitching, checks and balances, and constant reform that will keep this a country with success stories.
scratch this: (and this is just for LAW SCHOOLS)
Muzi | 03.23.06 - 1:01 pm | #
Good to hear Muzi, but not as many people don't like as as you may think. Just as the media wants us to believe whatever can sell a story, they also want to show how much people don't like us to support the liberal view that the war is bad. I've spent a good deal of time of the past year in European countries and I can't even tell you how many more people like and love Americans than hate us. I'm proud to tell people I'm an American wherever I go. And I hope we blindly don't think that everyone else in the world is loved. I bet everyone can find people in every country they don't like. People target the US for hate comments b/c we really are the center of it all. As egocentric as it sounds, it's true. People look to us for views and trends on everything. It just so happens when it's not in their particular opinion, they start hating on us. Maybe if other countries weren't so lazt in so many aspects, then they can get their own voice heard, products sold, opinions mattered and stop feeding off everything we're expected to give out.
I love the opinions on here. It's great, and it opens my eyes to different thought. Allbeit, some very strange.
Dumb shit.
I think people hate us because we are so damn ethnocentric as a country. Our way is the right way, and you better aspire to be like us goddamnit. If we were wrong, how could we have gotten so rich and successful. Because we all know wealth is the ultimate goal.
Or I could apply another viewpoint gained from this blog: they are just jealous.
>>>>"can you really be ANTI-WAR & support the US troops who are just doing their job? Just curious to see responses...
Anonymous | 03.23.06 - 1:00 pm | #
Is this a joke? I have several family members there, scared out of their minds, in danger everyday, and pissed off because the have NO IDEA WHY THEY ARE THERE.
Dirty little secret: most of the working-class (and, yes, Republican) kids who are fighting this war ARE AGAINST THIS WAR.
It seems they are not crazy about being used as cannon fodder to secure the long-term wealth of a few Cheney-type oil industry billionaires.
You know, this was so compulsive and completely involuntary, but when I saw the towers burning, the first thought in my head was: "Bush did this". Then I shook it off and quieted the voices in my head in the local bar with other shell-shocked people who didn't go to work that day either.
Mia, I have never had the opportunity to go to Canada, but I would love to someday. I think of Canada and the USA as sisters. Canada is the pretty and smart sister that is very tolerant of her often brash and flamboyant sibling. They sometimes tease each other, but they stick by each other through thick or thin.
can you recommend any good bars near Niagra Falls on your side? and is there gambling in Canada? I need to supplement my food stamps and govt. cheese
All I have to say to Mr. Sheen is this:
Go get a hooker and some blow and shut the fuck up.
I mean, really, how serious are we supposed to take someone with his history who now fancies himself as a fucking children's clothing designer!? What a total fucking moron.
NO
Loozer--Perfect analogy. I can see it. So it's rather like me and my sister. =)
Loozer | 03.23.06 - 1:17 pm | #
You should definitely visit - come to vancouver, it's beautiful!
I think Canada-US has a strange sibling relationship too - we are so much alike, but still so different in some ways.
We are certainly proud of our differences and like to pretend that you guys don't have all that cool stuff down there!
But, if you break your leg we'll fix it for free, and our army recruiters will leave you alone (please join the army? no? ok then...).
kitkatwoman | 03.23.06 - 1:18 pm | #
I'm not sure - I used to live in Toronto (nearish to Niagara falls) but I'm in Vancouver now. You should check out the casino though, it's great! It's no Vegas, but I'm sure while you're here you can add to your pile of nickels!
Actually, I've heard that a lot of Canadians come here for surgeries because the socialized health care is doing...well what it normally does when implemented...screwing everyone over
not only did the collapse of the twin towers look like a controlled demolition, but the collapse of the other smaller building at the world trade center was also total bullshit. the city just decided to take the building down and imploded it later that day, even though it takes months of planning and tons of explosives to do it right.
There was a conspiracy artlice about this in either FHM or Maxim recently, must be where he's repeating it from.
FHM a PATRIARCH in breaking news, updates and crotch shots
Maxim gives the fair & balanced news reports between how to please a woman and how to last longer in bed
And just what were the adjoining photos to the article. Not easy to fit in the standard t & a.
That's true - there are problems with the health care system Rabies - long waiting lists for certain surgeries... A friend of mine chose to pay for private surgery for a minor operation (hernia) because it would have taken months on the list... It's not perfect, but at least nobody needs to go without prenatal care or medical screening, cancer treatments, etc...
That's funny, I was in Vancouver, Canada and I felt the hate. And no, I was respectful and didn't act like an ass. Well, once when I was 7-11 and asked where the beer was. The Canuck behind the counter pratically spat out, "you are not in America". o.k. Plus Vancouver was almost as dirty as San Fran, and a hooker had set up shop and was turning tricks in the alley behind the condo I was staying in. This was near Yaletown too.
wait,the plane that went down in a field in Pennsylvania, i dont believe it was "shot down"
BECAUSE the people on it had time to use there cell phones to call their loved ones.
but charlie is a dumbass
readthis:http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/
march2006/200306charliesheen.htm
Actor Charlie Sheen has joined a growing army of other highly credible public figures in questioning the official story of 9/11
notice the line "highly credible"
sorry but i cant help but laugh at that, just how is he "highly credible" because his dad was played the president on tv--
all those drugs have affected his brain,
And I like your goat rabies!
Thanky =)
Unfortunately there are dirtbags everywhere in the world. We have our share of hobos in vancouver for sure and if I was a hooker I would probably set-up shop in Yaletown too - good place for the big bucks!
***can you really be ANTI-WAR & support the US troops who are just doing their job? Just curious to see responses...
Anonymous***
Abso-fucking-lutly. My father was in the AF for 20 years, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for our soldiers and those serving our country. They do it because they love America, and they love the American people and they are protecting our rights and our freedoms.
Soldiers do what they're told by their "superiors" and sadly, their "commander in chief." They don't get to pick and choose or question which battles they fight. If it weren't for them, we'd be in deep shit. And probably speaking German or Russian or Chinese.
I do think we should have a constitutional amendment that requires any president who wants to declare war to either have served in the military in a war zone and experienced combat or have a close, blood family member (brother, son, daughters) who must serve if they declare war.
If they've ever seen combat up close and/or know their loved ones will be personally affected, perhaps our esteemed politicians would think twice before going all Godzilla on the rest of the world.
Julia--lol, seriously, that comment about his dad is the shit.
You want to talk credibility, again, I refer you to the article on wwtdd.com
it's really stupid to align yourself with one side or the other. issues change, opinions change, world events change. the best thing that a person can do is to educate yourself and keep an open mind.
OK I will stop being a ambassador for Canada now... (Unbuckling large Canadian flag belt and removing antler-igloo hat).
Yeah, I loved Yaletown. Couldn't afford to buy anything there, sob.
Big Toe--you really must have been born yesterday. You say no terrorist attacks happened under Clinton? What about the first WTC bombing, OK City bombing, and the USS Cole bombing? All you people are absolute idiots. The government has NOT hidden the fact that orders were made on 9/11 to shoot down any other planes that appeared to be hijacked. Having said that, the flight 93 story as it happened is entirely plausible without bringing in a theory that it was shot down--even if it had been, the fact that orders were given to shoot down any other planes was by no means a secret. Prior to 9/11, anytime a flight was hijacked, the crew were instructed to obey the hijackers, because the plane would likely end up safe. Look at what happened on 9/11--the terrorists were successful because the crew was following standard procedure for hiijackings. Now look at what happened a few months later, with Richard Reid--no more 'standard procedure'--a bunch of people tackled him and avoided disaster. And yes, it is perfectly reasonable that a bunch of guys with boxcutters could take over a plane--passenger phone calls detailed murders that occured on board--including pilots and some passengers. As for the pentagon being hit by a missile b/c of 'minimal' damage--no one here seems to have any idea just how massive the Pentagon is. I don't feel like looking it up now--but I believe that the plane crashed through 4 out of the 5 rings the comprise the pentagon. Years prior to 9/11, the pentagon was undergoing a renovation of astronomical costs that included fire proofing the entire building. The wall that the plane crashed into had benefited from that restoration--wings would likely cause little to no damage, the body of the plane, where the fuel is storied, would cause damage--hence the thin hole made in the building--damage barely spread to either side because the building was fireproofed and perhaps the strongest glass available is installed throughout the pentagon--explaining the fact that the windows did not shatter. I have stood in the spot where the plane hit the pentagon--in the inside of the building. The belly of the aircraft did hit the ground first, before it entered the building--this slowed it down a lot, and a lot of the fuel was burned up in this initial crash before it entered the building. Coming in, the plane clipped the antennas off the Sheraton hotel, and then knocked down a powerline pole that crashed onto a taxi cab--the driver of that cab was killed. You guys are really all idiots--you should begin reading sources that aren't hellbent on insane 'facts'.
Bug Spray | 03.23.06 - 1:30 pm | #
My husbands family is all Army & Air Force. He was an NBC officer till he received orders to go overseas, but since got them deferred and took a discharge. My husband loved the work he did in the Army but put us first so he wouldnt go. He does not wish for any of his kids to be in the military, even with his background.
I agree too that military expierence is a mandatory key that is need to run this country.(hello CLINTON??)
Whenever I go to Canada, we get HATED ON but, mostly by drunk 20-something year olds, so we don't let it bother us. I know not everyone is like that.
?--I agree on the pentagon stuff. Yes, it came unrealistically close to the ground for its speed prior to impac but as we've mentioned earlier in this post, sometimes seriously strange circumstances are true.
I don't think you need combat experience to run the country well. But if you're going to declare war... yeah. Then it's mandatory. Otherwise, it's too easy to sit in your fancy, bunker-protected office with your high-minded ideals and blithely sign papers that will kill thousands of people.
My friend Jeremiah (same soldier buddy) went to Canada many times to drink because he's underage here. He seemed to like the hospitality...he banged a 35 yo there anyway. =)
Bug Spray--I don't agree. Then what if there is a really good reason to declare war (another pearl harbor type event) and the president doesn't have the ability by said requirement?
Also, I don't think you have to have personal experience to have have empathy or ethics.
Hey, there are more people who lean towards the "were there's smoke, there;s fire" theory than you think.
I've found many nice people in Canada, but a lot that don't like us either. Same as in the U.S. I guess.
Bug Spray - i would like to have a president have military experience if they're going to run a war...but it's not really plausible unless every president has military experience simply b/c you can't always predict when a war will break out. Sometimes war comes to you. A president needs to have integrity and trust in his advisors - and even more than that - trust the officers that are with the troops. you can't fight a fucking war from an office, you fight a war on the front lines. that has often been the problem with President's is that they don't listen to what the soliders are saying.
(Canada hat back on)... Yeah, bands of 20 year old drunk guys are generally pretty abusive anywhere! And apparently our 35-year old women get it on with regular frequency with young guys! In Quebec and Alberta the drinking age is 18, 19 everywhere else. We're not known for our strong beer and rye whiskey for nothin'!
And rabies it totally breaks my heart to know that your friend isn't even old enough to drink in the US, but he is old enough to risk his life for his country. I hope he stays safe.
Rabies--what was meant by the pentagon plane hitting the ground first is that it skidded (not flew) into the building at a high speed--otherwise it would have done more damage--likely going through the entire courtyard and penitrating the rings on the opposite side of the building. so for people who say it should have done more damage know little about the construction of the pentagon or the nature of the crash.
Yes, poor Jeremiah has had 4 tours and he's just about to turn 21 (poor guy will actually do so in Iraq he told me)
>>>>"what was meant by the pentagon plane hitting the ground first is that it skidded (not flew) into the building at a high speed--otherwise it would have done more damage--likely going through the entire courtyard and penitrating the rings on the opposite side of the building. so for people who say it should have done more damage know little about the construction of the pentagon or the nature of the crash."
were you trying to make a point anonymous 1:55?
I think the best way to support our troops is to speak out and not let our government cut their veteran's benefits.
(As GW just tried to do.)
Hey Big Toe ... I was president for the first Trade Center Bombing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Wor..._Center_bombing
Bug Spray--I totally agree. If people who have been forced to kill people for a living aren't granted respectable benefits, nobody should be. Especially where psychiatric help is concerned, it should be unlimited.
I find it odd that no one has even brought up the fact that there are obviously people who would benefit substantially from destroying all records and files in the "WORLD TRADE CENTER". Those three words mean something, they weren't just a big pair of buildings. Now, exactly who benefits when records, files, contracts, and basically general evidence on the WORLD'S ECONOMY and fair trade isn't my guess to make.
We are all completely clueless, so no one should act like you've got some insight on the matter -- you don't -- your speculations and opinions are nothing but that.
Vet's benefits are a joke. The hospitals are way below par, and the doctors aren't the best, either, because they get paid crap. My dad had to travel several hundred miles every time he needed to see a doctor, in order to see one "approved" on his vet's benefits.
It's horrible and sad that we don't take better care of people who devote their lives to serving our country.
And don't even get me started on the social security reforms underway. If everyone could set aside money for their retirement, they would have already been doing it right?
Bug Spray - you're right veteran's benefits suck, but at least it's something. Speaking from personal experience, even active duty care sucks. The service men and women now are needing psychological assitance more than ever, but they sure as fuck don't get it. they'll just come home and be fucked up like vietnam vets. the only veteran's benefit that honestly seems to work is the GI Bill.
http://video.google.com/videopla...&
q=loose+change
that video does make me question a few things...
Funny reading all these arm chair critics throw Charlie under the bus. His points have merit and unless you have approach these theories with an open mind your going to hate on him. Ironic since this site is deadicated to outing peoples drity little secrets and fetishes. You can handle Paris cheating on Nachos but cant handle your government cheating you? Wake up bitches! Welcome to the Matrix
Pentagon plane did not "skid." There was no damage to the lawn. There is photographic evidence at link, and I have a relative who works at the Pentagon who verified this to me.
This of course does not = government conspiracy, but it is another problem with the "official" story.
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911...x/
pentagon.html
Health care for active duty and their families, don't get me started. My doctor I had for years dropped my insurance because they don't pay enough (and I pay for the highest level of ins. that the govt. offers the military). The Veterans get shafted again and again, the Pentagon *is* trying to raise the deductable for retirees under 65 by double, luckily there are organizations that are lobbying to prevent that from happening. As for Charlie Sheen, he is entitled to his opinion, I would never deny him that, and I am entitled to say that he is a f*cking idiot...he has no point, in my opinion.
that's me at 2:31...Sorry for the rant, but I get very exercised about this sh*t, as the wife of an active duty Naval officer, and a native NY'er whose husband lost friends in the WTC...
Charlie's "circle" = Martin Sheen. Whatever Daddy says must be the truth dontcha know!
"Coming in, the plane clipped the antennas off the Sheraton hotel, and then knocked down a powerline pole that crashed onto a taxi cab--the driver of that cab was killed. You guys are really all idiots--you should begin reading sources that aren't hellbent on insane 'facts'.
? | 03.23.06 - 1:34 pm | #"
Cabbie is alive and well...problems with your skid theory have already been noted.
Just out of curiosity, where did you get your information?
http://physics911.ca/org/modules...s.php?
blog_id=9
I agree with Charlie. I've said it all along. Gosh I can't believe I'm agreeing with Charlie Fucking Sheen. lol.
Anon--wow, so far that video is really scary.
And my opinion is your a wank stain. Refute Charlie with evidence not "name calling" ass wipe! Welcome to the first grade. When you learn some bigger words we will introduce to irony and metaphores.
Miss Daniels, Teacher Grade 1
I definitely think there needs to be some investigation into this. I've read some of the theories and looked at some of the video, and I think there's good reason for questioning.
However, Charlie Sheen...Who asked you to speak? Who asked you to have an opinion? I agree with whoever said that now no one will listen to any of this if Charlie "Greasy Whoremonger" Sheen is involved.
the plane at the pentagon DID hit the lawn before it hit the building--the nose struck the ground. get off the crack. really. let me guess--your 'source' at the pentagon is a career employee? the plane's nose hit the ground right before skidding into the pentagon--the nose part skidded, the rest followed.
Anon at 1:55 here- just wanted to agree with the comments of poster "?" I typed in, "Good points", but somehow my comment got cut from the post.
Is this yuor first introduction to celeb power. In this day in age if someone famous didnt say it, it probably didnt happen. Thats why your on Dlisted isnt it? Oh wait you probably enjoy eating Soylent Green
Anonymous--widely reported that the driver had died--okay--so he's the first casualty of the pentagon crash. seriously though, maybe you should get your info fromm something other than a ridiculous conspiracy site. does it really matter if the cabbie died or not? the point I was illustrating was about the people who did not believe the plane inflicted any damage coming in--the attenaes were clipped on the sheraton and a street lamp/power line pole fell onto a cab on the highway. really--if you want to refute any claims, you'll have to come up with a better dig than that.
Where's George Clooney when you need him?
thanks for the 'good points' from the other anonymous conspiracy theorists aren't even worth arguing with most of the time. they will find ways to believe whatever they want to believe--including people who don't even think a plane went into the pentagon--soooooo, how exactly did the crew and passengers on this 'phantom plane' die then?
the plane at the pentagon DID hit the lawn before it hit the building--the nose struck the ground. get off the crack. really. let me guess--your 'source' at the pentagon is a career employee? the plane's nose hit the ground right before skidding into the pentagon--the nose part skidded, the rest followed.
Link?
Please explain why there's no damage to the Pentagon grounds if the plane hit and the resulting explosion was large enough to dissipate most of teh plane's fuel, as you claimed in your earlier post.
Remember: you said the reason there wasn't more damage done to the structure of the Pentagon was because of the skid and explosion prior to the plane's hitting the Pentagon.
So where's the damage from this external explosion? After you explain that, we'll discuss why your explanation is impossible from a Physics standpoint.
My relative is in the Army, counter-terrorism unit, ironically.
But I guess your super-secret, uncited sources know more.
There there my prety little Patriots, we will get you a fresh bottle of distraction when you get up from your nap. While your sleeping, dream of Chestica singing in Disneyland. Uncle same loves you. He would never molest you.
anyone can say anything on a blog, really...All the military people I know who have high security clearances say NOTHING about ANYTHING to ANYBODY. My BF's husband is a retired Crypotologist officer up in NOVA, had the highest clearance, and worked frequently in the Pentagon before, during, and after Sept. 11. What does he think about all of this? None of us has any idea, because he doesn't talk.
Use your imagination, "?".
As the earlier anon poster mentioned, one need not believe in a wholesale conspiracy to have a problem with the official story.
If you are comfortable being lied to, that's another thing entirely. Many Americans feel that way-- "government should just do what it needs to do, and I understand I don't need to know about it." I can understand feeling this way.
I personally think that terrorists took out flight 77 AND a terrorist missile hit the Pentagon. The gov't could be lying about it to keep us from freaking out even more than we already are.
It's a shame because I don't think we'll ever know the true burial site for the people on that plane. I believe the plane was shot down or brought down at sea by terrorists.
Do I think our governement is "in on it"? Hell no. Do I think they're lying their asses off to stabilize the economy? Yes.
(Recall the stock market freefall right after 9/11. But, it recovered once the government appeared to be "on top of the situation.")
Bean's right--it seems strange that your anti-terrorism pentagon source is spewing conspiracy theories. anything more indepth than a general overview of what happened that day seems a bit strange for a pentagon employee to be saying. personnel at the pentagon have always maintained that the plane's nose hit the ground first--you want a source? well, can't really source it since it was in a conversation. yes, some fuel was lost and speed reduced on initial impact right in front of the pentagon wall, but remaining fuel exploded on impact with the building. I've got real work to do anyway now--but you go on ahead believing your idiotic theories. no use arguing with people when they only have a handful of brain cells.
Okay, so let me get this straight... the US government used operatives to destroy the World Trade Center, so that the American public would get on board with Bush et al. and invade Iraq and the other "axes of evil".
Uh, these are the same people who couldn't find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They're pretty inept. I highly doubt they had the organizational skills and human resources to pull this off flawlessly and without a peep from anyone.
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP.
Can I get a bowl of Soylent Green for my frind here.
Your ranting on Dlisted. If you think yur brain waves elite, then take it to a seriuos blog. Now get back to the Stirp club, you have work to do.
"What does he think about all of this? None of us has any idea, because he doesn't talk."
No one is proposing that you ask relatives working at the Pentagon "what they think about it." That would be putting their lives in danger and would be stupid.
But, did you ask your relative what the Pentagon lawn looked like on / immediately after 9/11?
My questions to my relative were asked quite innocently, and looooong before I even thought about questioning the official story. "Gee, (relative), how did they get the grounds back to normal so fast after the plane basically crashed on the lawn?"
Response: "There wasn't much damage to the grounds, just the renovated wing that the plane hit."
Most recently, I commented to same relative: "All those 9/11 conspiracy theories must drive you guys nuts."
Response: "Well, I guess I understand where they're coming from since the US government has been known to start its own wars."
Having said all this, I don't believe in a grand conspiracy. I do believe the official story was hurriedly spat out in order to cover up all the incompetency surroundeding these events.
Four letter: PNAC.
Also, one thing that bothers me the most is why no black box was found in the PA crash. Generally, chances are usually good of finding it in this type of a crash, and you've never heard it even being mentioned. Also, how come none of the conversations between the pilots and tower controls have ever been publicized for any of the four planes?
Just a quick statement - the fact that they didnt find WMDs isn't necessarily inept. It's very unfortunate seeing as how the administration has paid dearly for not finding any. my point is that because they didn't find any, does not mean they weren't there. first of all, a WMD isn't necessarily a huge bomb - it can be something ridiculously small and in the form of a biological agent. also - these could have been smuggled through underground tunnels into any other neighboring country (especially Syria). i am not saying this is fact, i am simply stating a logical possibility that people seem to negate or overlook.
Glogal Economics my friends and the Euro. The possibility of oil being traded in Euros not Dollars, start there. This is about banking, and debt and commerce.
>>>>"Bean's right--it seems strange that your anti-terrorism pentagon source is spewing conspiracy theories. anything more indepth than a general overview of what happened that day seems a bit strange for a pentagon employee to be saying. personnel at the pentagon have always maintained that the plane's nose hit the ground first--you want a source? well, can't really source it since it was in a conversation. yes, some fuel was lost and speed reduced on initial impact right in front of the pentagon wall, but remaining fuel exploded on impact with the building. I've got real work to do anyway now--but you go on ahead believing your idiotic theories. no use arguing with people when they only have a handful of brain cells."
Can I get a bowl of Soylent Green for my frind here.
Your ranting on Dlisted. If you think yur brain waves elite, then take it to a seriuos blog. Now get back to the Stirp club, you have work to do.
"Bean's right--it seems strange that your anti-terrorism pentagon source is spewing conspiracy theories. anything more indepth than a general overview of what happened that day seems a bit strange for a pentagon employee to be saying."
Please, please, please learn to read carefully.
I never said that my source at the Pentagon "spewed conspiracy theories."
I said he confirmed to me little damage to the grounds / lawn. Period.
Later, I was amazed to hear people say that some tremendous "skid" on the lawn dissipated enough energy so that only a small hole was made in the Pentagon.
I'm open to other explanations and I don't believe in a governement conspiracy. But the skid theory won't fly, no pun intended.
Morticia, I agree with you. Perhaps it's true that Sadaam never had what he said he had, his WMD people just told him what he wanted to hear for fear of punishment, and perhaps it's true that in the months before the war started, they were able to move some of that stuff to Syria, or destroy it. And who knows, maybe there is stuff in Iraq hidden still, that hasn't been found. It could be relatively small stuff. And yes, perhaps it was gross incompetence on the part of the administration, bad intel, etc. But I don't buy that this prez, or any other, would *just* want to go to war, wars have been known to go badly, it's not as though a war is a slam-dunk vote getter...I think, if he was motivated by votes and polls and popularity, he would have just stuck with Afghanistan, which, after all, was supported by many more people.
Have any of you people ever heard of a little thing called O-I-L???
You ARE aware that our President and Vice-President have close ties to the oil industry, correct?
Seems a good reason to be in Iraq.
(But is off topic because it has nothing to do with a 9/11 conspiracy, in my opinion.)
Bean, onions have layers and you seem to be stuck on the outer rings. The irony is that your avavtar is "Snoopy". We are there to save the dollar, thats it.
1.Oil trading in Euro does not allow the US to control(print money) Global Inflation.
2. Iraq was set to vote to change value to the Euro with OPEC (an agency we can not control)
Euro Union (which Britian is not a part of) = Happy = Europe dominating Global Econ.
And you wonder why the coalition of the wiling is what it is.
***Can I get a bowl of Soylent Green for my frind here.
Your ranting on Dlisted. If you think yur brain waves elite, then take it to a seriuos blog. Now get back to the Stirp club, you have work to do.
Neo***
Dammit, are you taking those red pills again, Mr. Anderson?
Neo - enough with your ridiculous analogies. We're not there to "save the dollar" and though I won't completely disagree that oil plays a role in this endeavour, it is not the crucial point nor purpose. what is unfortunate is that we tiptoe around issues b/c we need oil and therefore cannot act as we would if we were in this situation with a different country. if we wanted to kiss ass and have oil pumping into the US without consequence, then we certainly wouldn't be pissing off the arab nations...the administration did what they thought they needed to do and now exhaust themselves trying to placate the other arab nations - this is done because unfortunately they have what we need. if bush and cheney had enough personal motivation about oil to start this damn war, bush certainly wouldn't be pushing for - and throwing major monies at cultivating alternative fuel solutions.
Finally someone with a sense of humor
What site am I on?
Think what you want, Neo...I look at an issue from every angle. I have not claimed to have any answers regarding Iraq, in fact I have conceded that anything is possible there. I am not, however, going to resort to buying these asinine conspiracy theories hook, line, and sinker. And as for your comment about saving the dollars, well, we do run this country on oil, no? We'd better do something to keep our oil supply flowing...I for one don't want to live without it, and I don't know anyone who doesn't feel the same way (and before you start in about that comment, my husband is more than likely going to be spending a year in Iraq very soon). And regarding your Snoopy comment, what's your point? I guess that means I'm dumb?
I'm sorry, Mer, I will stop now! I HATE to get political too, I do apologize!!
Mortica, your emotion is strong and rant is long. Go back to sleep my little patriot princess of darkness. I think you should try out for "Eyes Wide Shut" the sequal.
aaww. you're cute, even if you are a little slow.
Fuck you Charlie Sheen. If you were fuckin there (like within 500 ft.), you'd be sayin some different shit.
try and stick to the point little neo. your credibility is stripped when you only criticize and don't actually say anything with validity.
Mr X has it spot on, well said.
What bothers is the facade that this administration paints for the reasons we are there. Ponit is, dont rag on Charie or any conspiracy thoerist. You already know the gov is lying yet you defend them. Not trying t insult you but your clearly a patriot.
i don't categorize liberals as that at all. they're mostly just fags and celeb wanna-be's. just people that want to "fit in". it's sad really.
Anonymous | 03.23.06 - 12:40 pm | #
^^^^^ Whoever said that is about 500 kinds of fucking idiot! There's LITTLE BUNNY FOO FOO'S TWO CENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Credability? I'm not the one with a fucking Morticia Avatar. I am just sticking up for Charlie and all others that question the Government. Adios my Patriot Princesses, sleep well.
Neo, calm the f*ck down with the avatars! It's just for fun, for Pete's sake! It's fine to question the government, I do it too. I just think Charlie Sheen is talking out of his ass if he thinks September 11th was a govt. plot...that does seem to be what he's saying.
You can be a patriot and still question your government and its motives. In fact, if you don't hold your elected officials accountable for their actions...you're nothing more than sheep.
Just think about those Boston Tea Party guys and the (the coincidentally named) King George V. What if they'd said, "He's our King. Appointed by God to lead our country. He has our best interests at heart. Don't ask questions. Pay your taxes like good citizens and shut the fuck up."
We'd all be speaking with Brit accents and curtseying to Charlie and Camilla.
wow, i used to like charlie sheen. so being a fucking idiot is the way to get publicity nowadays? move over, charlie, jessica simpson needs your spot.
neo - if you would actually read what i've written on this subject throughout the day you would realize that i'm not advocating to not question the government and i'm not saying the current administration is without fault.
and fuckin a right i'm a patriot.
...."really--if you want to refute any claims, you'll have to come up with a better dig than that."....
Really, if you are attacking another poster, you should at least try to use some accurate information and maybe even a citation or two.
Oh yeah, but the other poster is the dumb one because he didn't make a "good enough" argument to debunk your inaccuracy-filled post.
Don't send your kids to public schools, my friends...(at least not in red states.)
Bug Spray you are wise.
What a great exapmple,Bug Spray! I'm certainly no Pollyana when it comes to the government, and it doesn't matter to me ONE BIT who is in charge at the time-I'm skeptical of ALL politicians. It's important to me to question what they do, especially since their decisions *directly* affect me, my husband and family, and my close friends.
The 9/11 commission report is a joke. Many family members of the victims could tell you that. Does that suggest a conspiracy? maybe. Bush is a dumbass but the people working in his administration are not. They stole two elections and convinced the American public to go along with the Iraq adventure. What is amazing is it takes some stupid Hollywood actor to ask questions many Americans should have been asking themselves. What is wrong with a real 9/11 commision not made up of Bush insiders with connections to big oil?
Charlie is full of too many action scripts, too little cognative brain reality and williness to blame, to assimulate fact from fiction.. and do not forget all that tried to take down the twin towers before, attacked other properties of ours, documents on their plans, the faction that openly admitted they did this and declared war on us, and witness of brave plane passangers taking down the flight in Pennsylvania and so on.. so on.. History happens! Pearl Harbor?
Oh hell! Do I need to come in here and fucking regulate? Jesus. It wasn't a government plot morons! However, the government IS trying to cover their asses as to WHY and HOW they could let something like that go down. They were fucking idiots is how! Bush was too busy playing with model airplanes and Cheney was too busy polishing his gun to know what the fuck was going on! Cabinet was busy spanking their monkeys and shopping on QVC. They ignored the Hart Rudman report (google it if you don't know what it is) and right now Bush is having way too much fucking fun on the ranch to give two shits about it anymore! You bitches who think he's some sort of upstanding citizen need to get a fucking clue. He's dumber than my great Uncle Fred and he's an alcoholic Alzheimer's patient. Shit. Don't even get me started. Bush has no idea why we are in Iraq (due to a combination of coke sniffing and sheer stupidity) and is living on a prayer hoping someone comes up with some new excuse - fast. As much as I deplore our president, he is way too dumb to have plotted 9/11. He is still trying to figure out his multiplication table's for Christ's sake. Dammit. Oh yeah, and Charlie Sheen is a meth smuggling, hooker loving idiot.
**Bug Spray you are wise.
Neo**
No, actually, it's just the blue pills. (Xanax) Hee, hee.
LBFF I'd like to see you run this fucking country. Sure, there were fucking signs that 9-11 was going to happen, just like there were signs that Pearl Harbor was going to happen. Yes, they fucked up and yes they're in backpeddal mode on several fronts, however - we still live in a country that is deemed safe and that says something about the effort behind homeland security since 9-11. One could also argue that 9-11 is just as much the fault of Clinton seeing as Osama was offered up on a silver platter but Clinton was too busy letting our soldiers get drug through the streets of Somalia while fucking Monica with a cigar. The point is - America has been protected since 9-11 and that's a pretty big fucking accomplishment. and ultimately the job of the president. i'm not a fucking Bush-lover but these ridiculous overarching statements about the administration are as pointless as Charlie's comments.
This is what America is all about. The ability to speak your mind, and have a open discussion.
Morticia - Calm down camel toe! I call myself Little Bunny Foo Foo for fuck's sake. Why would you even take me seriously?? Bush had nothing do with 9/11 but sure as hell acted like a moron both before and after. That was pretty much all I said in a nut shell. I didn't say shit about Clinton or anyone else and you went into some long, boring tirade that nobody cares about. Jesus. Chill out!
^^^^ That was me above (LBFF). I think I was typing so fast I deleted my name. Woops.
I realize i get worked up and shit, that's why i hate talking politics - but once i start, that's it...i'm posessed.
by the way, you have no room to talk about long boring tirades.
alright. enough said.
Da Foo is in da house.
Hey, Foo, if you type "scary bunny" into google, you get a ton of really funny pictures. You said you were looking for a different avatar, and I thought I'd mention it. (In between blue pill popping. Heh.)
Charlie is SO on point.
I saw the whole thing happen from the roof of my building. He is RIGHT.
The footage you dumbhead Amurikans were shown on TV that day is fake & manufactured.
The Republikkkans have been planning this shit for a long while. Al Gore wouldnt take the presidency back in 2000 because he like all other Dems & Repubs knew that it was going to happen & if he tried to stop it he would be killed also.
You know talking about these kind of things with people from Mexico, Central & South America where govt. corrutption is blatant in your face , they have no problem believing this "theory".
Americans are so naive & guillable & thats excactly the way the govt. likes it , little fat kids that you can play tricks on with candy & mirrors.
Bush & Co have proved they would stop @ nothing to get their greedy crooked paws on that oil, there just had to be an excuse for it, & also to usher in a police state that the citizens will consent to.
9/11 is the biggest bullshit fairy tale like this nation has told its citizens since the Kennedy Assasination.
WAKE UP PEOPLE, CHARLIE MAY BE A CRACKHEAD, BUT HE IS RIGHT ABOUT THIS SHIT.
I recommend you rent or buy the DVD of 9/11: In Plane Sight, to see exactly what happened that day.
Are we all still friends?! What Sara said at 4:41!
Let's take a vote on if LBFF is boring or not. I'm funny as hell and everyone knows it. Snort.
Bug I need some of those pills!
Bug Spray - Someone posted this super fugly, rabid bunny one day and I saved it. I am trying to shrink it down to use for an avatar but between planning the Hot Tub party, eating cheetos and sniffing my balls I haven't had much time. Thanks though!
From "?" at 3:04:
"Bean's right--it seems strange that your anti-terrorism pentagon source is spewing conspiracy theories. anything more indepth than a general overview of what happened that day seems a bit strange for a pentagon employee to be saying."
I already addressed this at 3:10 and 3:24. You must learn to read more carefully.
"personnel at the pentagon have always maintained that the plane's nose hit the ground first--you want a source? well, can't really source it since it was in a conversation."
If you are presenting this as fact- and you are- then surely you can rustle up at least one link.
"yes, some fuel was lost and speed reduced on initial impact right in front of the pentagon wall, but remaining fuel exploded on impact with the building."
See your 1:34 post, in which you said that people who didn't know about the "skid theory" and the dead cabbie were "idiots." You presented yourself as an expert on this matter; now that your post has been shown to be full of inaccuracies, you are contradicting yourself.
"I've got real work to do anyway now--"
Hopefully it doesn't include fact-checking and reading comprehension.
"but you go on ahead believing your idiotic conspiracy theories."
Re-read each of my posts- 2:26, 3:02, 3:10, 3:24. In each one, I have clearly stated that I do not believe in a government conspiracy. Really, do you even KNOW how to read?
"no use arguing with people when they only have a handful of brain cells."
Thanks for your concern, but I'm a tax attorney in D.C. with the day off, so I feel quite okay with my intellectual abilities.
Charlie is only vocalizing what a lot of us have thought for a long time.
If you don't believe our government was somehow in on it, then you are either too blind to the shit they've pulled since or you just are ignorant.
And that flight in PA was not taken down by the passengers, it was shot down.
Bean, go to your doctor and tell him you're having anxiety attacks and you want Xanax.
I got extra dosage for raising three teenagers (one of whom is bi-polar and was having huge issues) and I hadn't slept for like... three consecutive weeks.
um, iraq was not involved in 9-11.
Also, Morticia, documents just released by the US gov't actually highlight Saddam's (not that I'm saying he was a good guy....)frustration in trying to prove that there were no WMDs because they got rid of them years before. They also originally got them via the US. So, it doesn't hurt to ask questions...
Bug, this is SO off-topic, but I want to ask you cuz I respect you and know that you are very knowledgeable. Do you know anything about Zoloft? Is it like Xanax?
cluessy- i addressed that earlier. thanks though.
Hey man, if I don't get laid this weekend IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!
Bush doesn't care about my sex life.
brent!
I like pandas.
Bean - NO!!! Zoloft is more like Prozac. It's for depression and taken every day. Xanax is taken on an as-needed basis for anxiety. Two totally different things.
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911...x/ pentagon.html
I just watched this whole video that someone pasted up above. I just want to say I found it to be total bullshit. Though I do believe that bombs were planted in the buildings and thats what brought the towers down.
It goes on to say that one flight never crashed in Penn. and that it landed elsewhere and the people were taken somewhere and now just disappeared. Yeah right.
I also find it rediculous that our government planned all this shit just for fucking money and gold. What the fuck ever. Of all the people who would have to be invloved in this some of them Im sure would have a concious and not be able to handle the fact that they were responsible for so many people dying.
I dont believe it.
LBFF, thanks for that. I do like that Xanax is an as-needed pill. I need to talk more with my doc...
anon2, I need to watch that movie. I'm interested why you think bombs were planted...I have never thought it was anything but a result of the planes hitting the building, but am interested in your opinion. My husband thinks that al-Quada never thought that the buildings would collapse, and that they had a collective "Oh Shit" moment when they saw them fall, afraid that they had finally awoken the sleeping tiger.
shouldn't charlie be paying for hookers with a personal check or something...however, it does make you wonder....
Bean - No problem!
That's the problem with Americans, you are brainwashed by your government. If they had nothing to do with 9/11 then how come straight after the attack American airspace was completely shut down - ALL EXCEPT FOR A PLANE BOUND FOR AFGANISTAN FULL OF BIN LADEN'S FAMILY???!!!!!!
Morticia, You commented earlier about the WMD possibly being moved to Syria b/f the inspectors had time to find them.
That is interesting b/c Jon Stewart had a General in the Iraqui A.F. on his show the other night, and he said that he saw the WMD and knows that they were moved out of the country.
Also, he wrote a book out now called Saddam's Secrets. Did you see the show?Was pretty interesting.
Bean, Foo is right. But if you have depression issues, Xanax is not for you. It can actually worsen (or cause) depression.
It's for anxiety only. I took one or two a day for a year when my bi-polar kid was driving me around the bend. Nowadays, I only take a half a tablet or a whole tablet once in a while when I really need to sleep well.
Well, except that since I found out I'm having surgery on the 3rd (which is causing extra anxiety) I'm taking them every night again... just temporarily.
I discovered the hard way that the Xanax inhibits my ability to write, which is why I went off them. (Even tho I loved sleeping every night all night long.) I need to write more than I need to sleep. Sigh.
Before you all get your panties in knots... I'd strongly suggest you all got and watch the documentary "loose change". While I don't agree with all the points in the movie, it does raise a number of questions which have still remained unanswered to this very day. As much as I'd like to believe that 9/11 was not carried out by our goverment, it still remains a fact that if 9/11 had not happened, Bush wouldn't have gotten his Wars on in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Watch.... then decide....
http://video.google.com/videopla...&
q=loose+change
no need to get snitty, morticia. you didn't actually address what i said, unless i missed you discussing those new documents.
also, the whole point is that there can be no doubt that the administration used 9-11 as an excuse to invade iraq. the world is not a safer place! and, to suggest that it's somehow better to have terrorist attacks in other countries than the US when they are a result of US actions is pretty low....jmho
Bug, thanks for the info. I just started Zoloft...I do have anxiety, due largely to the fact that I don't know where my husband will be in the next year-year and a half (plus raising my teen son and soon to be teen daughter!), but I've been depressed ever since I had surgery in January. I had some complications and it really took a toll on me. I guess getting the depression under control takes precedence for now. I will talk my doc about the Xanax for the future! I appreciate yours and Foos input! I hope your surgery goes well, nothing too serious I hope.
http://video.google.com/videopla...&
q=loose+change
sorry I posted the wrong one tis is the one I watched.
Here is a link that works....
http://video.google.com/
videopla...059923762628848
Thanks, Bean. Man, I grew up in a military family and I feel for you. I know how hard it is to be both mom and dad while dad is serving overseas.
My surgery is "serious" but nothing life threatening and hopefully, after it's over, I'll feel better and get my ass back to work instead of hanging out on Dlisted all day. Even tho it's fun, it's not very productive. And the pay sux. LOL!!
Bug Spray, I'll be thinking good thoughts for you on the 3rd. (And I'm all for you feeling better, but don't go crazy cuz we need you here on Dlisted! )
That's the hard part about working from home...alone...in front of a computer all day. It's sooo tempting to pop over to Dlisted and see what's happening. I'm going to have to set goals and not come out to play until I meet my page count for the day or whatever. (Self-discipline, self-discipline. *G*) I still have two to put thru college. LOL!
Yes, working from home would take great discipline, of which I have little! Are you writing a book, Bug Spray?
I'm back my little Patriots, looks like Bug Spray has been holding it down while I was at the conspiracy cafe banging hookers and snorting FAT rails with Charlie Sheen. Damn that guy has an appetite.
Bug Spray my love, kinda high right now, could use one of those xanex.
I've actually written like... 9 books, Bean. I've had 4 published. I'm supposed to be working on 3 more proposals right now, but this stoopid health thang has me stuck. Thank the good Lord my editor is understanding. I just got a nice email from her about the copy edits on my last book. I was a little bit afraid, because I was pretty snarky with the copy editor. (ME? SNARKY? Naw... LOL!) Luckily, she agreed with me and is even sending in a complaint about the "incompetent copy editor." *G*
Here you, go, Mr. Anderson. One blue pill, coming right up.
Politics are a hard thang to discuss w/o getting emotional.
I hope more and more people look at this. As a born and breed NYer I'm not hating Charlie.
Looks like Morticia is dead, no pun intended
Yum!
Why does the media keep spoon-feeding us political commentary from ACTORS????? They're paid to read lines from a script because they are obviously incapable of coming up with educated things to say on their own.
Charlie Sheen Character is a hard thing to discuss without geting emtoional. After snitching Gorden Gecko and and testifyinig in Fedral Court, give the guy a break, he saved Blue Star
Jen-O, remember your on Dlisted
Bug Spray, I am impressed, that is quite an accomplishment to have 4 books published. Now I want to know what they're about, and I want to read them!
fuckin' yanks...so blind...so clueless...so wrapped up in yr prozac and reality tv that you can't engage in any critical discussion that doesn't echo the tired bullshit spewed fourth by the propaganda machine known as your mainstream media...oops..wait..this is a celebrity gossip site...how did i get here...aaaaahhhhhhhh...
and I can't believe you would be snarky!
Conspiracy theorists are dumb.
I think that if the government was so brilliant that they could plant bombs in the World Trade Center then they probably also could have figured out how to plant a few somewhere in Iraq for our armed forces to stumble over.
It's amazing to me the evil motives people can assign to the Bush administration yet apparently he isn't sinister enough to get a few vials of anthrax planted in Iraq somewhere. If he's not even willing to do that to help his poll numbers and justify the war, then I'll have a hard time believing 9/11 was anything other than Osama going after the WTC for the second time in his life.
But we all use our illusions.
Bean...email me at:
bugspray_1@yahoo.com
And tell me it's you.
Thanks Bug Spray, I'll be emailing you soon!
Ofcoarse Snoopy is now licking Bug Spays Arse (as dogs do). All kidding aside, Bug spray your my hero, you turned this girl around! Pet her and feed her inspiring thougts.
Bean has always been an intelligent poster, with an open mind and valid opinions. And she's able to back up her posts with credible comments.
We've hit it off and are taking our discussion private. Nothing wrong with that.
Neo, you crack me up...Making fun of Snoopy while you have as your screen name Neo...methinks you've watched the Matrix one time too many. And as for Bug Spray turning this "girl" around, guess what? While I have my own opinions and beliefs, I am not close-minded, and I actually listen to what other people have to say...sometimes I even learn a thing or two. I'm certainly not arrogant enough to think I know everything.
Amen to that, Bug Spray!
First off all i thank you for not taking side's and i thank u even more for letting the gossip crew know that some of it could actually be true, come on now as an american i dont belive a word that BUSH and he's people say, their always changing and always blaming it on other people.
charlie has been very stupid in the past but he's talking alot of sense and i respect him for speaking up when the rest have been shut up!
peace and love
You know, it's just too bad it came from Charlie. After all his screw-ups, he has the credibility of an eggplant.
On NPR today there was a bit by this gentleman who said that if Bush etc had been paying more attention they would have been able to see the crazy amounts of money trail to 16 or 17 Al Quida flight school trained people. THis is a brief probably not entirely accurate summary but I do not dismiss the chance that our Gov. had a part in it, sadly.
Back! Some of you might find this interesting (you have to purchase the actual audio though) - http://www.alternativeradio.org/...s/
MIAZ001.shtml
Bush is a pawn. Cheney is a dick, but also a pawn. The entire strategy (rather than "conspiracy") is to make sure that America remains the most powerful nation and never let another nation or area become more powerful. This is achieved through a number of means, not the least of which is unprovoked war and subversive plots to fund coups, civil wars in other countries, etc. Interesting, if you are interested.
My first coment was welcome to the Martix Bitches, Hence the name Neo.
Bean you must lighten up. as anyone seen a sense of humor, Bean is missing hers? It would far too easy to sit here and poach your insecuritites, your probably nice. I mean no harm, this is Dlisted.
Say good night to the Bad Guy
By the way Mia, your spot on. Kudos!
Neo, I don't think you're a bad guy...trust me. I'm an adult, and we were all having a discussion, a more serious one than is usually displayed here, true. As for not having a sense of humor, well, I do, but what's the point in trying to convince you?! You can think that I'd be easy to bait, whatever. Good night, not-so-bad guy.
me at 9:00 pm
Does anyone outside of the U.S. realize that we U.S. citizens do NOT elect anyone? The electoral college votes for the candidates. The popular vote of the citizens is ignored.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aZya3HXuqqE
Watch "Loose change: 2nd edition". It's available intentionally free from any bittorrent site. Some very interesting stuff about 9/11 in that film.
I would not put it past the American government to murder its own citizens.
I do have to admit that when 9-11 happened, I was suspicious of our government. I think a lot of people felt that way and didn't want to admit it. Bush's poll numbers were in the dumps prior to the attacks. It just seemed strange. Sorry to admit it that I dont trust our government. I support our troops and I love our country. But I dont trust our government.
Shut your effing twateater, Sheen. It's better to keep your mouth closed and have people wonder if you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Sheen's a fool. Our government is responible in the sense that they ignored the Bin Laden threat for so long and our intelligence agencies could not work with one another efficiently, but to say that our goverment would blatantly sabotage our safety and economy is patently absurd.
Bean | 03.23.06 - 2:57 pm | #
i so agree with you..i have a friend in the CIA and after 9/11 i tried to reach him...almost fucking impossible..it took about 2 weeks for my message to be forwarded to him in god only knows what country he was in and when he got back to me all he could say was HE COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING! he couldn't even tell me where he was...all i know is he is working in some counter-terrorist unit, maybe in Afganistan or Africa...its anyones guess at this point....all i can do is pray for his continued safety and wait anxiously by the phone for his call
i don't necessaraly agree with Charlie, but i do think it's a good thing to continue to question the current administration regarding its actions pre/post 9/11 and its international policies that lead to the hostile environment in many Middle Eastern countries(and others) toward the US...(IMO)
What a bunch of f*ing Kool-Aid drinkers
He probably just watched this http://www.fpsbanana.com/?sectio...s.main.43204&
47 and now thinks he's all in the know.
Hi nia, I will pray for your friend too. My hubby was in East Africa a few years ago, it is a very sad, dangerous place.
Bean | 03.24.06 - 6:40 am | #
thanks Bean
i don't believe in conspiracy theorys, but i do have to admitt that things don't add up with the 9/11 senario....some of that i think has to do with National Security issues, bad international policies, and a general climate of distrust that surrounds our government...we should be questioning EVERYTHING that our "leaders" do as they do it in our Name and we are the ones that suffer the consequences!
Take a look at: www.question911.com
www.hugequestions.com
I am so dissapointed in the comments posted.
We all love to get the "truth" about Hollywood and its character. But when "the truth" regarding our world, and how everyone is living under the laws of tyrant leaders pulling the wool over our eyes, when that truth is spoken your response is FEAR. That is exactly what "they" want. Get real - this has nothing to do with Charlie Sheen and everything to do with our little spinning planet and the unqualified murders that are running and controlling our future.
Dont be afraid - Listen to what is being said - Ask questions - Pass on the awnsers you find.
"They got away with mass murder that morning!"
Anonymous | 03.24.06 - 12:01 pm | #
You're a psycho.
Well said anonymous
Operation Northwoods:
In 1962 the Joint Chiefs of Staff were going to paint a plane like a commercial airliner and swap it with a real one. Then they were gonna shoot it down and blame Castro for it. Then go to war against Cuba using this fake terrorism. This document shows a number of similar actions and they were willing to kill civilians to make these plans happen.
I think maybe they finally got around to using this tactic on Sept 11, 2001.
All you have to do is read history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ope...tion_Northwoods
Kinda makes you wonder. If the WTC was the center of financial activity for the world, and the buildings were both destroyed, why haven't we heard about a lot of high powered, rich financial folks dying in the incident? Were they all off work that day or hadn't they come in yet? Charlie may normally be an idiot, but a lot of people are starting to ask questions about the whole terrorism thing...
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