snuh
What a bunch of idiots.
second?
This child is about as real as JT Leroy.
It's not that I don't think she wasn't born. But I wouldn't be suprised if she passed away or something weird happened. Like maybe she is being hidden away by Scientologists.
So wait...no one at the hospital saw Suri? That's because bitch was born in December, not April.
this is just creepy...
OH GOSH
There is no Suri.
So wait...no one at the hospital saw Suri? That's because bitch was born in December, not April.
LA | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:27 am | # CHANGE YOUR AVATAR
Why am I envisioning a scene at the cruise household that mirrors the final scenes in rosemary's baby?
Murder she Wrote, that is hot MK
such freaks...there's NO baby Suri. as if tomkat, who lived every second of their 'relationship' in the spotlight wold have missed an oppo like this for publicity...
i dont know what going on, but it aint right, i tell ya!
I LOVE SURI MI WITH KETCHUUP
Why am I envisioning a scene at the cruise household that mirrors the final scenes in rosemary's baby?
F.M. Doom | 07.10.06 - 11:29 am | #
ARE YOU A MAN?
GodDamnit La Garce what is it with LA'a avatar? Most people think it is her best one by far. Does her avie resemble the woman that gave you shock treatments? What?!!!
GodDamnit La Garce what is it with LA'a avatar? Most people think it is her best one by far. Does her avie resemble the woman that gave you shock treatments? What?!!!
^ Mishma...don't encourage it.
MISHMA SHUT UP PLIZ!
Look at the names. Katie's name is Katherine and did Tom change his name. They would have had to use their legal names to get this.
Seems fake to me.
I think there's something wrong with her...............or maybe she did die, and they buried her overseas, or they knew she was going to die, moved her overseas and she died, so that no one could have access to any death records here.
In Mass., it's really easy to obtain a birth or death cert. for anyone.
^ Mishma...don't encourage it.
F.M. Doom | 07.10.06 - 11:31 am | #
YOU RE JEALOUS
DOMMAGE!
MK
Seriously. The flashing ads need to go. They're making me have a seizure.
TE STT
BASTA WAKA
THERE. IS. NO. SURI.
TERE IS ONLY SURIMI IN MY FRIDGE LOL
What does an infant need with a passport, hmmmm?
Okay so Katie's name on the certificate says Kate...that's not her legal name. What in the name of L. Ron Hubberd is going on?
This is such a strange circumstance. I don't understand why there has been no pictures of this baby girl. Fishy.
Bex | 07.10.06 - 11:31 am | #
That's what I was thinking. This could be easily forged.
la garce is a homo
why the hell did they go through all this trouble for a fake relationship & baby...it's all just so bizarre!
WAKA WAKA HAS A SMALL DICK
Suri needs a passport so they can SHIP HER IN FROM CHINA.
La garce eats poo
I say, they whisk "baby" to live in a cultural place, such as france, where she is found drunk and od'ed on heroin in a bathtub and no one sees the body. That is original. Oh wait.....
...because documents are so hard to forge nowadays.
WAKA WAKA LOVES TO BE FUCKED BY DAD
Thanks, Mish.
Interesting, also, is that they wanted to take the baby out of the country at a young age. Maybe to exchange it for one that worked better for Tom? I wouldn't put ANYTHING past the Gay Dwarf Midget.
My official theory is that Katie Holmes was pregnant when she made her deal with the devil. Baby was born at term in December when Katie wasn't photographed for several weeks. She then appeared with the mysterious, ever-changing bump until the "official" (cough) birth in April. They are keeping the baby out of sight until the age differential is more ambiguous.
if you're going to insult me, at least spell my name right.
Thanks, Mish.
Interesting, also, is that they wanted to take the baby out of the country at a young age. Maybe to exchange it for one that worked better for Tom? I wouldn't put ANYTHING past the Gay Dwarf Midget.
My official theory is that Katie Holmes was pregnant when she made her deal with the devil. Baby was born at term in December when Katie wasn't photographed for several weeks. She then appeared with the mysterious, ever-changing bump until the "official" (cough) birth in April. They are keeping the baby out of sight until the age differential is more ambiguous.
LA | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:38 am | #
CAN YOU PLEASE MRS HETERO CHANGE YOUR AVATAR?
or they faked the doc, saying they need it for passport reasons because they are hunting the world for the 'perfect' Suri that they can pass off as their own.
wakka wakka wakka
I AM SORRY TO REVEAL THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR SEXUAL LIFE
i would have had more respect for tom if he just came out instead of parading about w/ this bullshit!
the first pics of Suri will be them disembarking from a private plane. Tom will call every fucking news network to document it.
MY TRAINER IS ARRIVING
OUF
We will get the full story one day, but something is fishy.
Seriously. The flashing ads need to go. They're making me have a seizure.
wakka wakka wakka | 07.10.06 - 11:33 am | #
I agree wakka wakka wakka! Those ads are just awful, almost as awful as LaGarce.
I can't read the certificate. Too grainy.
LA, do you think it is Klein's baby?
thought she was born at cedars-sinai??? this thing says st. john something
SHUT UP BREN
Somebody said that the baby might be black. I tolds ya I was the daddy!
LOL PLEASE!!!
This is bullshit. They are trying to pull a fast one. The nurse didn't see the baby? A "friend' signs the thing? How can they get away with this? I hope Ted. C. from E! is right and that Paramount is dropping Tiny Douchebag, and he's no longer the golden goose for Scientology. Just go away.
Well, for whatever reason they do what they do, their credibility is so far gone that not even Maury could convince me that Tom is the babydaddy
I HOPE SURI IS WHITE
AND NOT BLACK
!!!!!!
This is really getting SCARY!
MLB: ALL-STAR BREAK 
The more covert this situation becomes, the more Katie Holmes must fear for her life.
TOM IS GAY
AND SURE HE NEVER HAD SEX WITH THAT PIG OF KATIE HOLMES
ARE YOU ALL THAT NAIVE??????
tom cruise is gay, but he is also one of the biggest box office draws of all time. he, and the studio execs, know that if he were "outed" to the public, his stock would plummit. so, he drummed up a fake marriage to nicole kidman (where she was payed with an oscar, and prime roles).
this is why tom cruise FREAKS out whenever any tabloid accuses him of being gay.
anything is possible with suri, seeing as how tom cruise is completely irrational and delusional, but also very well funded.
I love how there's a bar code at the bottom of the birth cert. Does the baby have a matching bar code on its little bottom? That would be convenient... instead of having to show your birth cert. everywhere they could just run a barcode scanner across your ass.
LA, do you think it is Klein's baby?
Bren | 07.10.06 - 11:42 am | #
Bren - I really don't have a theory on that. I tend to not think it's CK because he is such a macho caveman. If it was his, I don't think he would allowed this to happen, no matter how much $ was thrown his way. I favor the theory that she hooked up with someone random between the Klein break-up and the selling of her soul to the devil.
La garce eats poo
wakka wakka wakka | 07.10.06 - 11:37 am | #
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La Tard eats dog poo with chunks.
i knew from the tighty whitey dance that he was gay as all hell!
i knew from the tighty whitey dance that he was gay as all hell!
wanna play with my bongos | 07.10.06 - 11:46 am | #
WAW WHAT A TALENT!!
what a freaking weirdo!!!
You know you're screwed when people are doubting your paternity more than Michael Jackson's.
His b.o. #s haven't been that great the past several years, so he might as well just come out already.
Your explanation is pretty spot on tim..........from what I have read elsewhere, which doesn't mean anything, but I believe that Tom is gay.
i laughed my ass off when i saw Kate as the mother's name. isn't her real name Katherine?
La Garce picks the peanuts from poo....
vlcupper LOVES TO SUCK GRANDPA'S SMALL COCK IN THE MORNING
wanna play with my bongos | 07.10.06 - 11:46 am | #
I do! If you're a guy that is. 
For what it's worth, I was born in CA and just got my certified birth certificate in order to get a passport. Because of 9-11, you cannot fake this stuff or get around the process. I had to send a notarized request for my BC, and the fedex guy would only deliver it to me in person. So Tomkat can't play around with this kind of thing.
HEY
La Garce, mon petit chou, are you male or female?
test
Does Scientology have an anti-gay stance? Is that why he's also so fearful of coming out?
LA | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:45 am | #
I agree. With everything I've heard about Chris, I couldn't see him agreeing that shit...
erin do yu want a sodomy?
WITH LA GARCE=IT IS BITTER AT THE START
THEN IT S SWEETER IN THE END
SCIENTOLOGY HAS AN ANTI GAY /GARCE PHILOSOPHY
i laughed my ass off when i saw Kate as the mother's name. isn't her real name Katherine?
Alayna aka Aphrodite | 07.10.06 - 11:47 am | #
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Good point. And isn't his name Thomas Cruise Mapother IV? Is just says Thomas Cruise.
scientology does not approve of homosexuality, the gay dwarf midget should have been "cured" by now. thus the various charades...
Well, there is a real NUrse in Los Angeles by the name of Anne Heffernan.......that's a legitimate nurse. It does seem odd that they filed the document with their famous names, like "Kate" instead of Katherine or whatever her full name is. Whatev.
No, La Garce, I do not want a sodomy. You did not answer the question, mon bonbon.
laughed my ass off when i saw Kate as the mother's name. isn't her real name Katherine?
Alayna aka Aphrodite | 07.10.06 - 11:47 am | #
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Good point. And isn't his name Thomas Cruise Mapother IV? Is just says Thomas Cruise.
vlcupper hates blogger | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:51 am | #
PATHETIC POINT OF VIEW
BONBON MEANS CANDY
anonxx | 07.10.06 - 11:48 am | #
Yes, they can. He's Tom Cruise. If OJ can get away with killing people Tom Thumb can surely fake a birth cert.
I love how there's a bar code at the bottom of the birth cert. Does the baby have a matching bar code on its little bottom? That would be convenient... instead of having to show your birth cert. everywhere they could just run a barcode scanner across your ass.
pats | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:45 am | #
Pats, they're already talking about implanting chips in people's arms with all their "medical" information to make it easier to get medical care...........I'm just fine with my HMO card, thanks. No one is going to put a chip in my arm. That's way to "Manchurian Candidate" for me.
Yes it does.
LA GARCE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING
CIAO FUCKERS DE MIERDA
AND VIVA BUFFON
AND ITALY
Does Scientology have an anti-gay stance? Is that why he's also so fearful of coming out?
Twix | 07.10.06 - 11:49 am | #
Twix - Rumor has it he went to scientology to be "cured" of being gay. I'm not sure if Sci has a policy one way or the other, but the way I've heard it, Tom's the one who wants to stay deep in the closet.
I think it's all blowing up in his face. His box office value is falling fast. People are creeped out by him. He's destroyed his own image by micro-managing it.
If you're Tom Cruise, why go to all this trouble when you could just adopt outright again? Starting a relationship with Kate Holmes will do nothing to confirm your sexuality. I believe that this baby fiasco is more twisted and corrupt than we'll ever know, but I don't see the reason for all the effort and deception.
how long did it take Greer Shields to get her birth certificate? the two babies were born at the same hospital at the same time... they are both celebrity babies... why would Suri Cruise's bc take so long if Greer Shield's didn't?
test
Yes, they can. He's Tom Cruise. If OJ can get away with killing people Tom Thumb can surely fake a birth cert.
vlcupper hates blogger | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:53 am | #
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ha!
It does seem odd that they filed the document with their famous names, like "Kate" instead of Katherine or whatever her full name is. Whatev.
Anonymous | 07.10.06 - 11:52 am | #
Would that make it invalid since they didn't use their real names?
Does Scientology have an anti-gay stance? Is that why he's also so fearful of coming out?
Twix | 07.10.06 - 11:49 am | #
Twix - Rumor has it he went to scientology to be "cured" of being gay. I'm not sure if Sci has a policy one way or the other, but the way I've heard it, Tom's the one who wants to stay deep in the closet.
I think it's all blowing up in his face. His box office value is falling fast. People are creeped out by him. He's destroyed his own image by micro-managing it.
LA | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:54 am | #
it only has AN ANTI MINORITY PHILOSOPHY.BASTA
i still dont think suri is real. xenu must have her in a soul catching machine somewhere on planet "nonexistia"
STUP UP CUNT
DAD IS CALLING ME
HE WANTS THE BEST OF ME......
I M HORNY
this is just another step in the scientologist's evil plot to replace human with robots. they started with Tom Cruise. He's not gay, he just a fucking machine. Suri is the next generation, but I don't think they have all the kinks worked out yet...
Damn. Katie had to live with a fucking robot.
OK
DAD?
DAD S COCK IS BIG
AND IT S PAINFUL INSIDE
Here's a larger copy of the birth certificate:
http://cdn.digitalcity.com/
tmz_d...uise_bc_8_5.pdf
It reads "Informational, not a valid document to establish identity."
Curiouser and curiouser!
no suri....
BUT I LOVE FAT COCKS
SO I LOVE DADDY
AND GRAND PA
AND MY UNCLES
WHAT ABOUT YOU?
He's not gay, he just a fucking machine.
bitch | 07.10.06 - 11:57 am | #
No, no. He's fucking a machine. You know he had her replaced with a cyborg since he's so terrified of the punani.
LETINSTAR MY UNCLE WANTS TO SODOM YOU
No, no. He's fucking a machine. You know he had her replaced with a cyborg since he's so terrified of the punani.
vlcupper hates blogger | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 12:00 pm | #
STUPIDER AND STUPID
This is the fucked-upedest thing I have ever seen. I was skeptical as hell when Katie's belly kept changing shape and size. That, coupled with this obviously-bogus birth certificate and the fact that ZERO pics of the baby have been released, confirms what I suspected all along - this whole fiasco is purely for Tom's PR. I just hate the fact that Katie has gotten dragged along for the ride.
Even if Baby Suri appears tomorrow with Tom's huge nose and maniacal grin I will never believe she is their offspring. This has just been too fucked up all the way around.
LA | Homepage | 07.10.06 - 11:58 am | #
Doesn't really mean anything. Just like putting "COPY" on a picture of a 100 dollar bill.
He'll never recoup his box-office cachet. He's done. The Scientology thing has made him creepier and creepier to the public and I read that Paramount execs just want him gone. His contract with them is expiring, and that will be it. He's tried to micro-manage everything for too long and it's done him in. If he were smart he could live lavishly on all the money he's made for the rest of his days, but something tells me Scientology has sucked away most of his wealth.
This whole Suri thing is so bizarre. TomKat's whole courtship was a photo-op from hell. You would've thought he would be showing off pictures of his spawn everywhere, if she did indeed exist. Only time will tell I guess.
Pats, they're already talking about implanting chips in people's arms with all their "medical" information to make it easier to get medical care...........I'm just fine with my HMO card, thanks. No one is going to put a chip in my arm. That's way to "Manchurian Candidate" for me.
tallulah | 07.10.06 - 11:53 am | #
That is creepy. It would be very convenient to have a microchip, but you'd never be sure what other info they'd keep about you on that thing.
Also it would be a nightmare to keep that information current and accurate. Nowadays people can't even get their AOL cancelled without spending an hour on the phone begging a service rep to cancel them.
and your little dog too | 07.10.06 - 12:03 pm | #
Don't you love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning?
Supposedly John Travolta joined Co$ to cure his gayness as well. It is believed that the cult, knowing both of JT & TC's sexual incliniations, hold great sway over them and thus bribe and manipulate them with this knowledge. Which in fine with me, if you are so lame as to believe your homosexuality can be "cured" pffft.
SHUT UP VLC HATES B. YOU RE A FACHIST
i read somewhere that her legal name really is 'katie,' not katherine.
since tom's kids have the surname 'cruise,' i do think he legally changed his name years ago.
something is definitely wrong here.
LMAO..."Tom Thumb"!! Hadn't heard that one before....how apropos!
IMDB says its Katherine Noelle Holmes. They have made mistakes with information before, but I've never seen them screw up someone's name.
vlcupper hates blogger---Yes, with this asshole, schadenfreude is delicious.
As far as KH's name, my daughter is named Kate Elizabeth, not Katherine or Kathleen. I thought I read that KH was legally Katie too. The midget probably had her change that to Kate too.
and your little dog too | 07.10.06 - 12:12 pm | #
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Oh hell, you know he did. That little pecker needs to be extinguished.
The most important thing he claims that happened in Cruise's life and he can't show to sign for Suri..?
C'mon people, knowing what an attention whore Tom is, this baby would have been trotted out for all the world to see, especially when Nicole got married. No, there is no Suri, or the Suri they do have is deformed, black or clearly not a product of their union. I always thought Katie's pregnancy came on pretty fast, suggesting another father. I suppose Tom is crazy enough to go "yeah, I don't have to deal with the messy insemination thing" but that is still asinine being that with his money, he could friggin clone himself fer crying out loud. No, this is too bizare, on so many levels.
I just don't believe this somehow. The fact that he was such a media whore throughout the "relationship" and "pregnancy" doesn't click with his behavior now.
I don't think he's doing this to create buzz or mystery because all the publicity is bad; he's looking like more of a lunatic than ever.
Today msnbc.com said that TC could be adhering to a Scientology principle about babies being kept away from noise. It also said on the MI3 worldwide junket he was totally paranoid, saying the air was never clean enough and that he thought he was always being secretly followed. He checked hotel locks over and over. Howard Hughes, anyone?
Oh yeah mishma. We would have seen the little shit if it was actually real or not retarded.
I read the msnbc.com thing. They believe noise and stimulation imprint unhealthy patterns and memories on a baby. This is the biggest load of horseshit, because babies sleep through anything and the NEED stimulation to develop intellectually--UNLESS, gosh of course, you WANT them to turn into placid, accepting, unquestioning, easily manipulated little slugs WHO WILL DO WHATEVER A BOGUS "RELIGION" TELLS THEM TO DO.
and your little dog too | 07.10.06 - 12:27 pm | #
Exactly! Practically every book on child development says that babies need stimulation in order to develop their intellect and personality. If she does exist and they're keeping her away from stimulation, it's because they want to be able to brainwash her later on.
This is total BS. Suri doesn't have a middle name?
Hos, what's cracking?
So....where's the birth weight and length?
Somethin' just doesnt' ring true with the birth certificate...maybe 'cause we all know tom's a goddamned crack up but still. Something seems wrong but his bitch got FAT so she must have been pregnant. I mean, she legit gained 25 or more pounds people! Who would do that?
MK, did you get my message on myspace?
I know you wouldn't really see it but..it's not notorized or sealed. Usually they make the notorization shaded so it shows up. This is a sham. Something is very odd. You have to see a baby to make record of it...bizarre!
Tom's last name is nor Cruise, as it says on the birth cert. His last name is Mapother.
So, his name would not be legally listed as Cruise.. and Suri has no claim to Cruise, either... Suri Mapother is what her name actually would be.
P.S. PLEASE make the flashing ads stop.
Also, Katies name is listed as "Kate." Her legal name is not "Kate."
This cert is fake... also, no stamp or seal.
Tom Cruise is more whacked out than Michael Jackson!
Somebody said Tom Thumb changed his name officially to "Tom Cruise" years ago. What gets me is that her name is Katherine Noelle Holmes. What is his obsession with having her called Kate? Did a transvestite named Katherine pop his anal cherry when he was a wee lad?
I thought I was the only person in the world without a middle name. suuurrreee this is a real birth certificate 
They don't have weight and length on legal birth certificates. My kids didn't. The hospital often issues more decorative certificates with that info on them.
Katie's real name is Katherine Noelle Holmes...seems to me they'd have to use that name on a birth cert. FAKE.
So the hospital doesn't have to issue one?
has anyone seen the trailer for the new Will Farrell movie where his character thinks he's on fire and is running around in a panic, he says "Save me Tom Cruise! Save me with your voodoo witchcraft!" I saw the trailer in a filled theatre the other day and that line got a HUGE LAUGH! TC is a laughing stock. I was shocked to hear such a thing in an upcoming movie, surprised he didn't sue to make them take the line out. I do notice that the trailers I've seen on tv for the movie show a bit of that same scene but it stops at "Save me Tom Cruise" and doesn't show the "..with your witchcraft" part. Anyway it is hilarious and I pity poor KH, who was just a dumb starstruck kid and he took full advantage. What a loser. Karma is a bitch! Oh P.S. I think there is a Suri but they're building up "suspense" while waiting for some of these other celeb babies to leave the spotlight. Can't dare be just another on the pack, you know..
how long did it take Greer Shields to get her birth certificate? the two babies were born at the same hospital at the same time... they are both celebrity babies... why would Suri Cruise's bc take so long if Greer Shield's didn't?
Anonymous | 07.10.06 - 11:54 am | #
I believe the article said that Tom or Katie would not come in to sign the BC and that they eventually sent someone in to sign it for them. Doesn't make sense because you have to sign all that crap before you leave the hospital.
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I really could care less now about seeing Tom and Katie's pretend baby. Something is not right when Tom doesn't even allow his closest scientology friends see the baby. Something definitely isn't right from their story and if he is holding out because of more money then he is even more f*d up than I thought and more people will dislike him even more. How much vainer can he get!?
I always thought that no matter what the doc signed the BC and not a RN nurse.
I told you guys, Suri is being programmed at the scientology center. Its called "trauma based mind control" look it up
I was my nieces birth coach for her last kid, so that is like four years ago. A nurse and an intern were in the delivery room and when it came time for my niece to push the kid out the nurse was pressing her hand against the emerging head of the baby and screaming for the doctor. It was against hospital policy for a woman to give birth without an attending doctor in the room. So I think it's all bullshit about who signed suri's birth certificate.
Another thing, the parent's LEGAL (read name given at birth) has to be on the certificate. SO unless Tom legally changed his name, Cruise would not be listed as fathers name.
How the fuck do you have a kid and not find the time to legalize the birth certificate? They shure had enough time to go to Conners softball games. Also most parents put a baby on their passport.
I say Suri is en route from some Russian baby broker in Pinsk
anyone ever here of PHOTOSHOP?
I could easily produce a fake birth certificate if i could come up with the blank one.
this is so WEIRD. Ockham's Razor people, Ockham's Razor.
I don't believe this is a real BC..I think Kate did have a baby, and hope the baby is okay, I think this is a publicity stunt to put mystery around Suri, and them maybe he can hope for 4mil, like Jolie got for her baby pics..I wish Katie would wake up and leave Tom, because he is certifiable.IMO..and has serious mental health issues...
...Also most parents put a baby on their passport.
you know who | 07.10.06 - 1:27 pm | #
You hit the nail on the head here. Children under 2 normally travel under their parents passport; it has nothing to do with celebrity, either. To me, it looks like TomKat are trying to procure a US birth certificate and passport for a child that is 1.) not techically in existence (as in they don't have custody of 'Suri'); 2.) not biologically theirs; and 3.) not American-born. At this point, the first pics of Baby Cruise might actually be a honey-glazed ham wrapped in swaddling clothes as they board a jet.
Even if there is a flesh and blood baby, the hospital fucked up big time; regulation is in place to ensure snafus like baby switching and such don't happen. I can't believe someone not present at the birth would be foolish enough to sign such an important document.
About homosexuality and the "Church" of Scienntology,they are pretty stringent about it.Because L.Ron had a son who was a devoted member,but he was also gay and in the CO$ bylaws its stated that gays are 'subhuman'.When his son started coming to his senses and tried to distance himself away from the church he was found dead in his car from mysterious causes.If I'm right,they tried to pass it off as suicide and all but anyone who has lost family memebers or big amounts of money know that the CO$ are a bunch of covert bastards who will keep shit under wraps from the public.To make a long story short,either they brainwashed TC enough to convince himself he's not gay and he'll sue the fuck out of anyone who tries to out him, or hes so much a flamming queer that if he decided to leave the church theyd secretly do away with him or divulge his secrets and shame him so badly.I don't know..
grapplehooks---a honey-glazed ham wrapped in swaddling clothes as they board a jet.
LMAO.
Yes, someone is definitely trying to pull a fast one.
I don't think this is fake..but of course, i could be wrong...and i thought Katie legally changed her name to Kate Holmes sometime last year...which would make this a legit cert...but who really knows with these two....
GrappleHooks | 07.10.06 - 1:53 pm | #
I think the State Dpt changed the regs so that children under 2 (inc. babies) need passports to travel to countries outside the US. All it takes is an app, birt cert and the parents id's to get one....but why are they taking Suri out of the country??? is the GMD planning on dragging Katie and Suri around with him on his world wide publicity tour for MI3???...God he's such a tool
O boy, birth certificate prooves nothin'. Then again, if we see the kid we might think she's adopted, and if a DNA test was taken you just know that Tom and the rest of the Scientologist freaks will change it. Sorry Tom, it's been too long without an appearance from the baby or Katie (sorry, thats Kate) Nearly 100 days since her 'birth', its a bit late.
Actually, my husband had his own passport when he was 8 months old. It's quite adorable, actually. It's just his baby picture, with the height and weight measurements of a baby.
But that was back in the mid 60s, so maybe things have changed, although with Homeland Security changing things to requiring passports to get into Canada and Mexico, I doubt it.
Isn't Tom Cruise's legal name "Mathopter"?
And wouldn't that be on the "real" birth certificate?
Where's the sex, length and weight of the baby?
Is a fake.
I was born in Los Angeles, and mine birth certificate looks nothing like that.
The names are off, anyway. I'm calling shennanigans.
Maybe the baby died
I thought the baby was born at Cedars? (Where Brookes baby was born)
This is bunch of BS!! TOM IS GAY! TOM YOU ARE GAY! Face the facts GEEEESE!!!
TMZ made up that whole document themselves on photoshop just to have something to report. Why is everybody so worked up about Suri, as if we have a right to see the kid. My best friends stayed indoors for 3 months after having her first child, cos according to tradition she is not to leave the house or accept any visitors apart from immediate family. No she is not a scientologist.
Suri is real. She will rule the world one day. Be patient future minions.
The birth certicates of my two kids (in Illinlois) are filed through the county; the hospital gets the info from you, the mother, while you are a patient. They have the kids' name and time and day of birth; the mother's maiden name (if married) and the ages and birth dates of the parents. That's it. . The hospital sometimes offers a colorful, more decorative certificate with the length and weight and someimes the baby's inky footprints; these are not official documents but are nice to frame.
Jay we just want to know where suri is sounds to me like you the one worked up!!
TmZ has 1000+ comments on the story there now. Cult Handlers are trying their best with the "Who Cares?" and the "Why don't you focus on more important things" game.
call nancy Grace!
back in the old days, didn't they do shit like this (baby born on one day, the birth certificate not filed until much much later) when there was a secretive adoption deal going down?
as a matter of fact, isn't that what was whispered about England's Queen Mother? that her real mother was an Irish housekeeper, and that the real father and his wife just took the kid as their own? and that's why her birth certificate is all screwy? if it was another royal that's whispered about, i apologize. but this twist in the Suri story reminds me of it. There is something wrong going down in the Cruise-Holmes household.
The date the birth certificate is filed doesn't mean anything; it's always at a later date, usually about a month after the birth.
www.scientomogy.com
F*ckin hilarious site
Nia, you're right. According to the U.S. State Department, all minors under 14 are required to have a passport. As TMZ acquired this birth certificate themselves it is marked with 'Informational, Not A Valid Document To Establish Identity.' According to the L.A. County Registrar-Recorder, unauthorized parties requesting a certified copy get one stamped with the above tag.
Just to be super-duper sure, I rechecked and it turns out that Katie and Brooke Shield's had their resepective babies at St. John's in Santa Monica and not Cedars. I still think Suri is a honey glazed ham.
LOL at the few people on TMZ defending TC, that he's protecting Suri, etc. They must have handed out laptops and told the zombies to defend their biggest celebrity.
St. John's is the OTHER hospital that celebs in LA use. Brooke had her baby there, just go back to April and look at the news reports. Now, whether or not Katie had a baby at St. John's might be questionable, but that was the hospital she allegedly had Suri at, NOT Cedars.
What's funny is you can't get a tubal ligation at St. John's, but you can have a fake baby.
They will not show Suri to the world until Tom or Katie release another movie! Tom is such a publicity whore!
War of the Worlds - Tom and Katie reveal to the world the fell in love.
Mission Impossible III - Katie comes out she is with fake child and will deliver close to the film's opening!
????-movie - Suri is shown to the world so people will go see Tom or Kate's LAME-ASS MOVIES!
the sacrificed suri to the scientology gods
why the hell did they go through all this trouble for a fake relationship & baby...it's all just so bizarre!
no idea, but i will laugh my ass off if there's no baby... just because everyone was joking about it at first. if it actually was true, my god life would be sweet!
I read somewhere that Suri's middle name is, Fadadmi
anonxx | 07.10.06 - 11:48 am | #
Recently I had to get a new BC because I had lost my old one. I needed a new one for my passport. Since I was out of California, my mom went to the courthouse and obtained a copy for me.
They only asked for her ID (which has a DIFFERENT last name than mine) and that she sign somewhere that she was my mother.
This really creeps me out. Its SOOOO easy to get a re-issue of anyones passport!
Oh, and this brings up another question...
Do you guys think that Crazy Tom could have sent in a Katie Holmes DECOY to give birth, and that is why none of the doctors saw her/ the decoy was not able to sign the BC? If the decoy signed it, then it would be obvious the woman was a fake, as there are many Katie Holmes autographs to compare the signeture too.
If a decoy Katie Holmes was used, she could have also been allowed to make noise and or have drugs for a C-section. Which would make Tom look less insane.
What do you guys think?
ok, I think I solved the Suri mystery... It's all in the name, people! I wrote about it in my blog:
http://www.celebslap.com/the-suri-files/
This "leak" immediately follows Us Weekly's Where's Suri cover.
....this shit gets stranger and stranger with each passing day.
It certainly looks like at TMZ a unified front is defending To Cruise. Could be his church running interference.
I think that the birth certificate was photoshopped and leaked. They are biding time for something.
MK can you run picture in chronological order of Katie belly? I'd like to see where the fake belly came in.
Thanks
I also think this birth certificate is not real.
There is obviously a prooblem with suri, seeing as TomKat were sooooo over-the-top publicly in love. Even press shy bamz released a photo(s).
I had my baby at St. John's last summer. They have you fill out the papers before you check out (so the informant certification and certification of birth is dated during the hospital stay, usually the day you check out. They hound you for it starting the next day and demand its return before you leave.) St. John's then does file it with the County Registrar within 10 days. Also, it is usually the mother or father who is the informant. Our doctor didn't sign the BC either, but the attending nurse certainly did -not some stranger medical personal we had never met. This whole thing is, once again, suspect.
I think probably the scariest thing about all of this is that a BC can be obtained by "officials," none of whom have seen the child. I would think given the state of necessary security in this country hospitals and county registrars would be more strict. If that nurse wasn't in the delivery room, I would think she shouldn't be legally able to sign. I love St. John's hospital, the staff is AWESOME, but this is wrong.
Is Tom in need of a hearing aid-TOM WE NEED PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE STAT! Maybe video. . .
He's so full of shit. I hope Paramount does dump his closeted ass.
The pro-GMD comments on TMZ are obviously $cientology plants. They all sound exactly the same. No one would ever post "celebrities' lives are none of my business" on a gossip page! If you felt that way, you wouldn't be reading gossip sites! And notice how many of them are clustered at the beginning of the thread, as if they knew when it was going up and were told to post. I agree, this is a fake planted by Tom Thumb with help from his fake cult.
That's fake...his last name is not Cruise. Either this kid doesn't exsist, or they gave her up to the Church.
Looks like the Office of Special Affairs (OSA) at Scientology HQ has a Hill 10 PR Flap on their hands with this one. A legal birth cert is needed to get a passport and "friend" does not qualify for a valid birth cert. Someone is going to Ethics and then the RPF for this for a little game of find the PTS!
Let us see... "Attendant or Certifier" who signed the certificate -- Anne Heffernan, RNC -- was not in the delivery room and did not see the baby. Not to mention the RNC name does not match up with the number registered for her (G48079 = NOEL PATRICIA! WOW! Imagine!)
King of Queens - Carrie Heffernan (Leah Remini)
Leah Remini on Scientology
"Scientology has been my road out...
Wow... Just imagine... Truly mind blowing...
Is this supposed to be the woman who signed the birth certificate??
http://www.stjohns.org/services/
...right_moves.htm
Strange???
I love Tom more and more each that passes and nobody gets to see Suri. I bet ya he's in his house sniggering away at all the attention and stir he's created - silently sniggering, mind you. But where the hell is Katie? How powerful/rich are the scientologists anyways?
What is the Matrix? Where is the Keymaker to unlock these hidden truths?
you need a birth certificate ofr a passport, regardless of age. both parents, and the child must be present for the child to obtain a passport. a notarized statement from a parent can bee substituted for one parent if that parent cannot be present. however, unless they apply at the actual dept of state office, the application needs to be executed by a postal office or other authorized agent.
If they can get a passport for a baby that probably doesn't exist do you think all of us here at Dlisted could pitch in and get La Grace a passport to some little corner of the world with no internet connection? Just wondering.
Seems Scientology has just fucked itself in the ass with a chainsaw here... This is a HUGE pr flap in the making
I was waiting for this to go up this morning. It figures MK puts it up when I leave! As usual, you have all said anything I was going to say. Something is very not right here. I want to know how they explain that they couldn't get a signature from the parents (or anybody else) before May 4th. The parents were there for the birth, right? I signed my kids' certs in the hospital. And I'm talking about the birth certificate, not the passport.
think probably the scariest thing about all of this is that a BC can be obtained by "officials," none of whom have seen the child. I would think given the state of necessary security in this country hospitals and county registrars would be more strict.
Reality Check | 07.10.06 - 6:18 pm | #
I don't know about where you live, but where I live, as long as you know certain facts about a person, you can apply for a copy of their birth certifcate. I've applied for and gotten them for my stb ex husband (before we were married) as well as a few other people. Nobody gave me a second look so long as I could fill out the form completely and forked over the dough. I guess they figure if you know those facts, you must have a good reason to want it. That or they're greedy bastards who just want the money.
I think Tom is just embarassed to be seen with anyone taller than him.
I think Tom is just embarrased to be seen with anyone taller than him..... this includes baby Suri.
Why is the mother's given name listed as Kate? her given name, meaning the name she was given at birth was Katherine....
also, same goes for Tom. his given name is Mapother, it says "family" not "screen name"
Under the Parent signature, it looks like C Kleinn?
Why do people call Tom Cruise GAY? This is the year twenty-something the new PC term is "hetrosexually challanged". Tom doesn't have the nuts like Rosie Oh'Donnel. So he chases after Rob Thomas who also likes Mounds. Rosie likes Almond Joy because it has nuts. This will help you if you understand that Tom is not NUTS! Thought many websites may state this opinion. When did loving Rob Thomas ever become a bad thing?
Dude, I can't read anything on the certificate...stupid watermarks.
If you can't read it, go to TMZ. Their englarged version is much bigger than this one, and is easier to read despite watermarks, not that you're missing much. Tom's name was Mapother, but I heard somewhere that he had it legally changed to Cruise. I'm not sure if that's true, but it doesn't matter. This whole BC thing is about as ridiculous as it gets.
Jay--No, I don't think the midget is loving all the attention he is getting because it is BAD press. He can't control it and the whole situation is getting creepier with each passing day. If we ever see a "Suri", there will be so much doubting and snickering it will overshadow any perceived good PR he might want. He's a big joke, and it's delicious to see.
Mother's name is "Kate" Noelle Holmes. But her real first name is Katherine.
She'd have to give her real name for a birth certificate, not what Tom calls her.
Something's not right.
Does the certificate prove that what was born was homo sapien? It could have been some kind of alien hybrid.
Suri's real, just that Xenu took the baby the second it was born.
This is from a thread at www.imdb.com:
Yes, it´s fake (the certificate). The regristration numbers of the nurse don´t match etc.
Read here (I hijacked that from another board):
The license number of the "nurse" who signed, Anne Heffernan, is written to be G48079.
But :
G48079 = Patricia Noel
www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpu...RYNA$LCEV2
And there are only two Anne Heffernan’s and neither has the license no. G48079.
www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpu...ctionQuery
HEFFERNAN ANNE TERESA RN 317058 LOS ANGELES
HEFFERNAN ANNE TERESA NMW 359 LOS ANGELES
katie is not a full cult member yet, so she is not worthy to give birth to a scientology baby. I think they turkey basted another scientology member with ronnies sperm, and katie got paid to pretend that she was pregnant.
I think its possible Katie and Tom's baby is actually dead. Tom could be in the process of trying to do a quick adoption for a white european newborn baby girl from overseas,and then pass the baby off as their natural child. That could explain the waiting game thats going on. After all he hasn't let even the closest of their friends see this "Suri". Tom is a proud person, and he probably doesn't want Brad and Angelina to be the only happy parents in the lime light. After all he was jealous when he found out the Pitts were offered more money for their baby pictures too. Who knows? Its possible.
Total fake. Tom Cruise is a stage name and would not be listed on a legal document like this "birth certificate". If she exists her name would be Suri Mapother as Tom's legal name is Thomas MapotherIV.
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