METHADONE!? That's what they give recovering heroin addicts.
And I want to add, RIP, Daniel, you poor sweet boy.
Methadone! Poor baby. Who knew he was on the horse!?
Thank you LA. I was just about to ask that.
And aren't the other two both anti-depressants? Are they usually prescribed together?
Is there a doctor in the house???
methadone's also given for pain management. it's a narcotic like vicodin, percodan, etc.
I also don't understand being on two anti-depressants at once. I think he must have been seeing multiple doctors and not telling them about his other scrips.
i take lexapro for depression...zoloft is also for depression. they could be taken together for different symptoms. i'm not a doctor, but i don't think that is unheard of. as for the methadone, no freakin' clue. so sad.
I swear, I had NOTHING to do with this.
antidepressants are often prescribed together, particularly when one can counteract side effects of another (eg, wellbutrin in addition to SSRIs (paxil, zoloft, prozac, etc) to counteract sexual side effects.
he wants to be her hubby so they cant testify against each other, one of em gave him the drug that killed him.
i feel really bad for her no one should ever have to have that happen to them and have everybody talk about it
METHADONE!!!!
Scandalous!!!
so sad. hopefully people will move on from his death. Anna on the other hand, must be loving all the attention this baby is causing.
He is dead as a doorknob.
he is a goner
bye bye
I smell a rat in Howard coming out to say he is the father and that they are gettin married.
Screams cover-up.
Methadone isn't usually given for pain, unless it is chronic and intractible. He was either using it to get high/addicted, or to get off heroin.
He was on the horse. SAD
I feel bad she lost her son but she is one golddiggin skank
Poor kid. (Sniff-sniff) I smell a lawsuit.
I know people who have taken methadone just to get high... it doesn't always mean someone is trying to get off drugs. It is as bad as drugs, because it IS drugs.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story...=2475616&
page=1
Check out this link to ABC news report on Methadone. "One pill can kill"
Seriously. Methadone might as well be heroin.
all those not surprised, please raise your hands....
The body language in the photo seems to say that he was more the protective parent than she was. She looks like she's trying to be a little girl to be doted on in this photo. Anna did not understand her role as a mother.
That is really sad but having a fucked up pill-popper for a mother must've been bad- and that Larry King shit with Howard. he was fucked up too. I bet they were all high all the time- poor kid
i'd also like to add, someone may want to rescue her and baby...and fast. howie gets creepier every minute.
The body language in the photo seems to say that he was more the protective parent than she was. She looks like she's trying to be a little girl to be doted on in this photo. Anna did not understand her role as a mother.
Gabriela | 09.27.06 - 6:01 pm | #
SPOT ON OBSERVATION!
Poor kid, the whole thing is just very sad and tragic.
Methadone is a very strong pain killer...I work for a medical malpractice attorney - people die from that shit ALL the time - just the methadone alone will do it if you take too much.....It can be obtained for serious chronic pain - or just for fun....it doesn't necessarily mean he was a heroin addict....
that is so fucked up. 2 antis and methadone? thats a drug salad if i ever heard one. dude was spent
ooooh - MAYBE HOWARD GAVE IT TO HIM TO HELP HIM SLEEP!
METHADONE!? That's what they give recovering heroin addicts.
LA | Homepage | 09.27.06 - 5:48 pm | #
You read my mind!
Gabriela | 09.27.06 - 6:01 pm | #
You can read body language to tell if someone is a good parent or not? I wish I had this skill - please share your knowledge with the rest of us.
Some doctors and pharmacists need to get fired. This must have been an accident.
sad to hear
R.I.P.
i feel bad for daniel...i know he's gone, but i still feel bad for him...
i thought he was took an ambien too to make him sleep?? or was that verified as being incorrect?
I love Anna Nicole... but if I was her son I'd be seriously depressed.
How very sad...
I swear, I had NOTHING to do with this.
drug laydee | 09.27.06 - 5:51 pm | #
Are you sure?
Well, I just hope he can rest in peace now. No matter how you look at this, this was such a tragedy.
I weep for for that poor baby....
A lot of these responses are so heartless. This poor boy died and I feel terrible for Anna. Nobody deserves to lose theyre baby nut or not it is awful. I hope Anna can come to peace and the lawyer looked awful probley because thats how he feels. He was close to Daniel too. I highly doubt a lawyer would be doing drugs unless its valium to ease the pain.
And they are getting all the drugs from Rachel Zoe don't you know!
What kind of doctors prescribe medication, and doesn't check to see how they interact with each other. Also, what kind of parent doesn't do that research before just shoving some pills down her kids throat? Still very sad, god bless them.
poor kid. methadone is not necessarily an indicator of prior heroin abuse, it works with any opiate dependency, apparently.
all that being said, and regardless of where blame lies, it is a sad thing.
um, why did anna nicle hire OJ SIMPSON's Forensic expert?
Cyril Wecht by the way was just up on numerous charges of fraud and was recently disbarred from being the forensic pathologist in his state
if you believe a word of what is being said in Wecht's press release then i hae a giant bridge to sell you
lt's wait for the dna test - we can't trust a bunch of fuck ups now can we?
the lawyer looked awful probley because thats how he feels.
J | 09.27.06 - 6:19 pm | #
Right...
Personally I think he was murdered. There was a just a 48 hour special on a very young girl that died mysteriously of methadone. She went to sleep and never woke up. She was 23 years old. Daniel does not strike me as a drug abuser. They should look into murder
Also, what kind of parent doesn't do that research before just shoving some pills down her kids throat?
Stella | Homepage | 09.27.06 - 6:21 pm |
He was 20. Don't think he was asking for her permission.
he was murdered and howard & anna are scared of getting caught
DON'T BE SO NAIVE PEOPLE
Ummm...that lawyer should be disbarred. It's a disciplinary violation for lawyers to sleep with their clients...
Psychiatrists routinely prescribe two types of anti-depressants to be taken at once. It's very common. For example, years ago I took Welbutrin and Paxil together. It's because the drugs treat different chemicals, and sometimes the doc tries a patient on different things until the best combination is found.
Murdered why? For what reason?
He was 20. Don't think he was asking for her permission.
Anonymous | 09.27.06 - 6:25 pm | #
So when someone turns 18, there parents just stop being concerned about them? I am 24, and if I were on meds, my parents would certainly be concerned about what I was taking. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just curious.
If your body is not used to Methadone it takes only a teaspoon or less to kill you. That's what happened to the girl on 48 hours mystery. She went to sleep and never woke up. Just like Daniel. I have a bad feeling and I do not think his Mother had anything to do with it. She could be in danger herself.
So when someone turns 18, there parents just stop being concerned about them? I am 24, and if I were on meds, my parents would certainly be concerned about what I was taking. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just curious.
Stella | Homepage | 09.27.06 - 6:28 pm |
I'm sure the parents don't stop being concerned. But if they don't know what you're doing, they can't do anything about it. And even when they do know, a lot of times they still can't do anything about it.
so Howard and his kid can have the $$$ when Howard suceeds in poisoning ANNA...
except it is not howard's kid its the other guy's...
howard is wanting to marry ANNA so they cannot be forced to testify against each other...
He was murdered by Anna and Howard while sleeping.
I just know it.
So, so, sad. And, yep, it was one or the other of them who gave him that pill- hence the hasty marriage.
Don't think Anna has gotten any money yet. It may never happen, actually.
I saw an HBO show called Methadonia. It was really a very good show. Sad but fascinating. Basically these guys are trading one drug for another. It can be abused just like any drug. It is used to get off Heroin, but can also be used for pain management, with the thought that it is not as addicting. A theory that the show pretty much puts in the toilet. I found it interesting that Meth clinics are privately owned. It behooves them to keep their clients on a nice dose of Methadone so they have a harder time getting off of it. Keeps the money coming in. Disgusting.
Check it out if you can find it, the show that is.
wrong. she just made over a MILLION DOLLARS selling photos of Daniel
So sad.
Vicodin makes me throw up.
Ah, yeah or Stren's worried Anna will kill herself, so he's making himself her next of kin, so he's set for life...
that sounds about right too
either way he and "his kid" (not) are now next of kin and before ANNA was willing all to daniel
Damn something's not kosher... That poor kid he seemed like a really sweet boy. All of the shit he had to deal with in his short life.
And you know Howard is not Anna's baby daddy. This is like some twisted trashy mix of Jackie Collins and Agatha Christy tossed in a blender and then spewed back out.
Cover up!!!
Howard's retained a lawyer- He gave that kid the Methadone. Probably got it from Anna- or who knows, maybe it was his own. Bullshit about his being the father. Don't believe it for a MINUTE. And did you see his stumbling (truly) when Larry King asked him why they sold the pictures? For a (possible future) foundation. They don't even have an IDEA of one. Larry asked him what the foundation is and he stumbled- had nothing to say. This is such bullshit I hope the Bahamas doesn't drop the ball with prosecuting him because it's enamored with a new live-in celebrity.
they just HOPE people believe their BS COVER-STORY
Luckily the real father is demnding a dna test (which Cyril wecht will probably comitt another Fraud on)
I swear, I had NOTHING to do with this.
drug laydee | 09.27.06 - 5:51 pm | #
Are you sure?
Anonymous | 09.27.06 - 6:19 pm | #
Pretty sure...I'll go check the narcotic cabinet.
Why do I have a feeling Howard has something to do with this? Didnt someone report that Anna was screaming "what did u do to him?"
METHADONE!? That's what they give recovering heroin addicts.
LA | Homepage | 09.27.06 - 5:48 pm | #
When I was a teenager the only thing I knew about Methadone, like you, was that it was given to heroin addicts as a substitute (even so, a friend, who was a recovering heroin addict died from a Methadone overdose). I know now from someone very close to me that kids (in suburbia) are taking Methadone to get high. They have no worries about swollowing any random pill (vicodin, methadone, oxy) passed along to them. Very scary.
there are many POSIONS that can be administered on the sly and are not detected... poisionngs are the new assasination because they don't cause a mess and are usually undetectable
I saw a show on it on bbc in england
so, it is still accidental, correct? he didn't up the dosage purposely or anything?
Well at least he didn't die from a shooting.
Anonymous | 09.27.06 - 6:29 pm | #
You are right. I have never been on drugs so I haven't been in that situation, but that's also because I had parents who weren't on drugs, made reality shows, and embarrassed the shit out of me.
Anna's crazy. They probably both agreed that the real father would go away, due to legal fees, if Howard announced he was the dad. And if anything happens to Anna, then Howard would get custody.. instead of the jerkoff who is the real father. They're all crazy, but I have to hope that is the plan and that it's not all about the $$.
poisonings cause HEART FAILURE 99 % of the time
and
unfortunately it is ALWAYS about the MONEY
Greed sucks
Frisky Shadowridge | 09.27.06 - 6:37 pm | #
Look carefully at what I said. I didn't say there weren't other uses, legitimate or insidious. I simply stated that's what they give recovering heroin addicts. Anything else that extrapolated from my statement is pure conjecture.
Yes, it's very scary.
That's just sad.
This is like a General Hospital episode I still get that feeling in my gut that Howard had something to do with it....
My god, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that is too much stuff in your system at one time.
Questions are whos methadone was this, and did Daniel intentionally overdose. Also liquid methadone can be slipped into drinks. Some look like orange juice.
methadone is not that big of a deal, but people think it is
doctors commonly prescribe pain edicines and anti depressants
as fact after a lot of surgeries the 2 types of medicines are prescribed together for pain relief...something is screwy with this story
it has taken them a MONTH TO MAKE IT UP
Is it bad I don't know what Methadone is?? And is normal you be on Methadone Zoloft and Lexapro??
Is it bad I don't know what Methadone is?? And is normal you be on Methadone Zoloft and Lexapro??
~ohmy~ | 09.27.06 - 6:47 pm | #
It's normal if you never saw the movie Sid & Nancy.
Does anyone besides me think that the story of Anna allegedly screaming, "This is your fault!" or whatever, makes more sense now? I think that her "attorney" secured the methadone for Daniel in order to keep his drug problem private and he gave it to him without checking to see if it was safe, in connection with the other drugs he was taking for depression. I think this whole thing stinks and that the attorney is guilty of several things, not the least of which is manslaughter. I don't think he killed Daniel on purpose, but he killed him by trying to treat his drug addiction on the sly. And now, he's taking advantage of Anna's vulnerable state and is covering everything up.
they even put Sugar Pie on Prozac on the reality show...
remember???
bobby trendy thinks hired had something to do w it - jealousy of daniel
I smell a rat in Howard coming out to say he is the father and that they are gettin married.
Screams cover-up.
Anonymous | 09.27.06 - 5:54 pm | #
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He's a total sleaze.
This is like some twisted trashy mix of Jackie Collins and Agatha Christy tossed in a blender and then spewed back out.
beanpuffmassacre | 09.27.06 - 6:34 pm | #
Loves it!
HOWARD KILLED HIM
NO WONDER ANNA NICOLE SHOUTED (TO HIRED) "ITS YOUR FAULT"
HE DUNNIT
OMG, OMG TMZ.com has the Screech sex tape.
Or Anna slipped him something to help him sleep and Howard is covering for her.
It's normal if you never saw the movie Sid & Nancy.
Suse | Homepage | 09.27.06 - 6:48 pm | #
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Nope never seen it!
I THINK howard isa juknkie AND WAS ON mETHADONE
AND SLIPPED SOME TO dANIEL
howard PROLLY TRIED TO MARRY anna IN THE HOSPITAL ROOM AND DANIEL GOT IN HIS WAY
My dad, who has acute and chronic back pain, was prescribed methadone when his doctor wanted to get him off oxycodone. He said it was much less powerful than either vicodan or oxycodone, and the doctor prescribed it because it was not nearly as addictive as other pain meds...
THEN IT WAS anna'S mETHADONE... BECAUSE anna IS A HILLBILLY hEROIN jUNKIE JUST LIKE COURTNEY LOVE IS... OXYCODONE IS HILLBILLY HEROIN
Anna had to take methadone whilst in the hospital as the hosp would not allow her heroin use or oxycodone use there so HOWARD K STREN SLIPPED it to her and slipped it in daniels orange juice
oh ...and WHY was ANNA in the Hospital so LONG after her child was born?
If he was taking Methadone for pain, are there any reports of him being in an accident or something that resulted in him being in pain?
Methadone alone will kill your ass deader than fried chicken thats why they give it to ex junkies hoping they will off themselves.
Hey its all good , just as long as gays cant get married because we would surely destroy the sanctity of marriage & the institution of family.
What rude vile money grubbing pigs , the entire lot of them.
as former opiate abuser i have bought liquied methadone from addicts at the clinic( take home doses) and mehtadone pills are sometimes ( but rarely) prescribed for chronic severe pain. methadone is a long lasting narcotic and you can get a nice nod on it. after a while, methadone clinic clients do not catch a buzz, it just takes away withdrawal symptons. people that are "virgins" to narcotics can easily die after injesting small amounts of this drug. doctors rarely prescribe it because it is cheap.... the medical industry would rather have the docs prescribe oxycontin because it is expensive... anyhow, my husbands grandmother, who was never any kind of drug addict who is in her early 70s has chronic, severe back pain. she is like a hunchback. they gave her methadone at a pain clinic and she didn't know how addictive it was until she tried to quit taking it.
oh ...and WHY was ANNA in the Hospital so LONG after her child was born?
apple | 09.27.06 - 7:04 pm | #
She had a C-section. A lot of women are in the hospital for a full week or more (just because it's common, don't forget that it is major abdominal surgery).
i would like to add that observing howard and anna i get a strong vibe of serious painkiller/narcotic addiction. god help them it is hell getting off narcotics.
I'd never believe that Howard is the Father and Daniel got a little 'PILL' in that hospital room for sure from Mr. HKS
Didn't HKS state that Daniel was having back pain? It could be possible that he was prescribed methadone for this. And trust me on this one, being a nurse myself, a LOT of doctors don't even check to see what other meds you are on that can have potential lethal interactions.
YOU DON'T DIE BECAUSE YOU TOOK ANTI-DEPRESSANTS. They are not powerful at all. I know because I have been on all of them.
that shit is stupid!!!!
My theory is that the smarmy Howard K. Stern did have something to do with Daniel's death. I agree with those who said that he probably provided the methadone and was probably hoping Daniel would die. Conveniently, he gets the deed done in the Bahamas (places like that usually have malleable police officers and detectives). And I highly doubt he's the father of the baby--Larry Birkhead never wanted anything to do with this baby and paternity was never confirmed, so now HKS eagerly claims he's the dad, so that he can eventually get his paws on her millions. Don't be surprised if Anna "commits suicide" or "dies in a mysterious accident" in the next five years. Money will go to the baby and to Stern, by default. Diabolical!
Howard Stern gave the drug to the kid because the anti's were preventing him from sleeping. No doubt about it, Anna and Howard are geting married because they cannot testify against one another. They will never be happy. way to much karma to repay. I also think that this will affect her law suit.
Hey "me" are you some type of moron? The kid wasn't only on anti-depressants, they also found METHADONE! You say you can't die because you have been on all of them--pity isn't it?
Suse, are you threatened by my acumen? Or are you doubting the validity of body language as an effective means of communication?
The photo epitomizes the relationship dynamic of Anna and Daniel, and this conclusion is not incongruent with the behavior that Anna herself has exhibited in her very public life.
I do not intend this to be a harsh judgement of Anna, as if to imply she did not love her son. But clearly, Anna with the baby talk, with the little girl in distress gaze, may have failed to recognize that Daniel was, in fact, the child who needed his mother's strength. Instead, he felt compelled to protect her, his beloved, fragile mother, even at the cost of his own well-being.
I just hope the Bahama prosecutors got all they need before Howard cleaned up the crime scene.
Anna and Stern have a fucking mess on their hands. I do not think that Sern inended to kill Daniel, however I feel that he provided the meth that did the trick. This Birkhead nobody all of a sudden is on every TV interview that he can get on. How would he support the baby girl if he had custody of her. Anna, Stern, and Larry Prikhead should have a double wide shipped to the Bahamas and try to work things out for the rest of their drugged out life.
OK #1 This skeevy Howard has been attached to Anna like white on rice ever since the big bucks lawsuit over the old guys $.#2 Why the hell were they in the Bahamas?
#3 Howard has been slowly devising a scheme to get Daniel out of the way so he can have Anna all to his self so he can somehow get his hands on the $$. He said on Larry he has no law practice, he devotes his time just to her. Please someone help Anna get away from Howard as fast as possible! It seems like she has no one to help her!!!
Dandelion | | 09.27.06 - 7:14 pm | #
not only that, she probably had a tummy tuck.
Please someone help Anna get away from Howard as fast as possible! It seems like she has no one to help her!!!
happy francis | 09.27.06 - 7:48 pm | #
The problem with someone like Anna is that no one can really "save" her. She has had more opportunities than most people do and she consistently does dumb things. Unfortunately, she (and her family) pay the price. She's not normal. If anything, feel more sorry for her baby. That kid is the one who needs to be saved.
What is Perez Hilton doing on a life raft with Anna Nicole Smith?
I TOLD YOU GUYS FOR WEEKS
OD OD OD OD OD OD OD OD OD OD OD OD
from day ONE Patty Cake said OD!!!
OD OD OD OD OD OD!!!
Who doesnt know that all that will be an OD????
DUH!!
I guess if you grow up in pill poppin heaven it may be what is the norm....but that is an OD!!
DAMN!
It looks like now there will be an investigation into who prescribed these different meds, for what specific reasons and where he obtained them.
It's possible that he was seeing several doctors for different prescriptions.
Ten to one HKS gave him the methodone. His motive remains to be seen...
Gabriela | 09.27.06 - 6:01 pm | #
Sadly, I think you're right. If you didn't know the ages by looking, you'd think she was the little girl posing for attention.
Dandelion | | 09.27.06 - 7:14 pm | #
not only that, she probably had a tummy tuck.
Anonymous | 09.27.06 - 7:50 pm | #
Also, a breast lift.
With all being sad, no matter how he died, it's still sad for a parent to lose a child. He died accidently and this could have happened to anyone. My mother's best high school friend's daughter was leaving the grocery store and dropped dead from a major heart attack. She had always been very healthy. After the autopsy, they found she had been given meds she had been given to take for sinus problems along with another drug which instantly killed her. She had complained to her mother, who lived long distant she had felt sluggish that day, and went to the store for orange juice.
Um for pain most reputable physicians recommend taking 2 advil or tylenol and work from there.
This is just Horse Shit that an 18 year old gets Methadone for pain...maybe from LA Dr. Feelgood MD's but not in the real world where real Dr.s that care about their licenses being pulled practice.
I've had major surgery and gone home with NOTHING but orders for tylenol and lots of water. I also know the people who know the Dr.'s that can get me the dr. that will write me whatever for pain especially since I have the nice Motion Picture insurance that they love to bill.
When you fuck with dangerous drugs without supervision you can die...surprise surprise..the real surprise is that she hasnt died yet!
that photo is really weird and uncomfortable.
Did anyone see Nip/Tuck last night? The lesbian goes into the bar, picks up a beautiful dyke and wakes up the next morning with a kidney missing.
.....I'm just saying..
Seriously. Methadone might as well be heroin.
Stoney | 09.27.06 - 5:59 pm | #
Like any drug, methadone can be abused. However this does not eliminate the fact methadone treatment saves the lives of many people with life-threatening addictions (heroin, oxy-contin). Methadone should be taken in conjunction with therapy and life counseling as methadone only addresses he physical aspect of the addiction and not the psychological.
Who knows where the methadone came from... it might have been prescribed to him for pain. Or if Anna is indeed he pill popper she appears to be she might have been given methadone to get off the pills. Methadone can be taken if you are pregnant/breastfeeding. The length of the stay could be b/c they were observing the baby to make sure everything was okay. BUT I think that in a hospital situation the doses are very closely monitored (no"I'll take it later" BS!) This is probably just a very sad accident.
Methadone is not only used to get off of heroin. More common then anyone realizes, it is used to get off of prescription painkillers like Vicodin, Percocet, etc.
A lot of "non heroin" type people use Methodone if they have a problem with these prescription narcotics.
Still very strange, methadone does not mean heroine addiction and two anti-depressants are often prescribed and not lethal. I've been on Zoloft for years and have taken others at the same time on doctor's orders. Something is still not right here.
To all those that think a wife can't be forced to testify against her husband - She CAN be forced to, in certain cases. If the crimes of the husband happened before the marriage. She can also be forced to testify if the reason they married was to keep her from testifing against crimes she knew he was planning. A wife in quite a few cases can be forced to testify against him. A wife can also testify if she is sick of seeing his fat, lazy ass sitting in the recliner and she wants to just to get rid of him.
ANS and HKS are responsible and should be held accountable.
RIP Daniel. You're in a better place without those losers.
the truth will never be known.
It was reported that Anna decided to have her baby in the Bahamas because you don't have to name the father on birth certificates there. She hates the actual father so I'm not surprised at all that her lacky agreed to say he's the father. If anyone knows the true weirdo that Anna Nicole is, it's this Howard person; so i don't think he'd F^&# her to begin with.
I believe HKS meant to kill Daniel. He had many years to do it if that was his intention. I believe it was as simple as Daniel complaining of some aches and pains and HKS or Anna saying "oh here, take this". It happens all the time that someone will have a prescription, and trying to play doctor, will dole it out foolishly to a friend who comes to them with pain.
HKS while greedy, obsequious, and sycophantic; does not really appear to be all that diabolical. He and Anna do seem codependent. I'm sure they have concocted this whole fictitious story of their 'secret love now revealed' to protect eachother from facing the legal consequences of their carelessness.
As for the baby, I don't believe paternity can be confirmed unless there is a DNA test. Anna and Howard are desperately guessing and hoping it is his, but that does not make it so.
Let me rephrase. "I do not believe HKs meant to kill Daniel."
How horrible!
Man, between this and the T.O. story I'm starting to think everyone's a pill popper these days (yeah that includes me too)...
I think it's harder to lose a baby
Anna is celebrating this death and has a new child to worry about now.
Let the dead rest
daniel was a junkie it would figure since his mom IS A TOTAL JUNKIE I BET THAT BABY IS A JUNKIE
Spikey said it best..let the dead rest and leave Anna the fuck alone
Howard slipped Daniel the methadone... if Daniel was abusing opiates he would have been tolerant & harder to OD. Even if he didn't mean to kill him, he's still guilty.
patty cake | Homepage | 09.27.06 - 8:02 pm | #
"NOT an over-dose"
Zoloft and Lexapro are prescribed for depression and anxiety, and methadone could have been prescribed for pain.
Daniel had had a prescription for Lexapro, but it's not known if he had prescriptions for Zoloft and methadone. It's possible that the drugs were prescribed and that perhaps his doctors weren't aware of the dangers involved from combining the drugs. The levels of methadone and Zoloft seemed high, but *did not* suggest a deliberate overdose.
"This is a very tragic case, but [a] classical case of an accidental drug-related death."
I know the bitch is bat shit crazy but come on people let her mourn in peace for the love of god if god forbid something happened to your families you don't want it discussed like it's a fat topic
To turn this into some conspiracy theory as I've been reading is a bunch of bullpoop,don't start rumours.
I live in an area where methadone can be bought from any local drug dealer. There are tons of people addicted to it, and they weren't prescribed it. There are some people that only do methadone because they say the high is so good. Methadone clinics give it out like candy... then people sell it and make BIG money off of it. Just because he had it in his system doesn't mean a doctor (or Howard K. Stern) gave it to him. He could have brought it with him or anything. He could have gotten it anywhere in LA, I'm sure.
daniel flew in, was having trouble falling asleep, howard gave him the methadone anna's taking to kick heroin, to help the kid sleep, and next thing you know....
so sad.
yep, no doubt Howard is trying to cover shit up.
Spikey | 09.27.06 - 9:23 pm | #
And of course, if Anna has anything to do with the coverup, we should just leave her alone, huh?
where's that chick? kim? this is really sad. But why did I think it said Howard revealed he was the dad as in Daniel. I had to read that a couple times. *scratches head*
now I know not to take methoadone and zoloft with my lexapro.
Maybe he didn't take any methadone tablets. They do prescribe methadone to pregnant women who are addicted to opiates, even in the third trimester, and then taper the baby off of methadone. Maybe Daniel simply drank too much of her breast milk?
Bad joke.
Normally,I'm all for celebrity bashing,but this is different.It is very common for psychiatrists to prescribe more than one anti-depressant at a time.People with severe depression or anxiety can be on four or five meds.Methadone does not equal heroin user.It can be used for pain also.With any medicine,there is the potential for a rare/freak death like this.If you watched the show on methadone,there are people who have died after one dose.These people were prescribed the medicine for pain and then died because their bodies couldn't take it.Just because someone dies and has prescription medications in their symptom,it doesn't make them a druggie and it doesn't indicate foul play.Let this decent young man rest in peace.Save your hate for the "celebrities" who are the real users and losers.
For those who want to know: The Lexapro was, most probably insignificant to the interaction that caused his death. However, the Zoloft (sertraline HCL) does interact with methadone to cause QT prolongation (basically, in layman's terms, a delay in the heartbeat or the time it takes for the aortic chamber to fill with blood and then expel that blood out of the chamber). Pronounced/prolonged QT prolongation leads to cardiac arrest.
I have to say, though there is an interaction between Methadone and sertraline (Zoloft), this dramatic result is RARE. In my opinion (as a pharmacist), he was REALLY "doing it up" on the Methadone (partying and getting an enormous high)... A small dose would have NEVER caused a result as drastic a death.
Oh, just in case I wasn't clear: There is no FUCKING way he was PRESCRIBED methadone (at least by a real physician)... He bought it off the streets and was using it to get high. Unless there is something about his medical situation that I don't know about, then that is what happened...
To those of you whining about how we should leave Anna to her grieving, she's the one who sold the last photos taken of her son (at the hospital where he died!) for upwards of $600,000. She's really mourning now, eh?
Spikey, I don't think it's harder to lose a baby because you haven't raised it, watched it grow, spent years with that child. People who have lost even adult children find it extremely devastating compared to those who have lost an infant simply because they were able to spend so much time with the child that died. If I had a choice (and I know this sounds gruesome), I'd rather lose my baby than my 20 year old.
A lot of these responses are so heartless. This poor boy died and I feel terrible for Anna. Nobody deserves to lose theyre baby nut or not it is awful. I hope Anna can come to peace and the lawyer looked awful probley because thats how he feels. He was close to Daniel too. I highly doubt a lawyer would be doing drugs unless its valium to ease the pain.
J | 09.27.06 - 6:19 pm | #
Are you on Howard K Stern's payroll?!!
The body language in the photo seems to say that he was more the protective parent than she was. She looks like she's trying to be a little girl to be doted on in this photo. Anna did not understand her role as a mother.
Gabriela | 09.27.06 - 6:01 pm | #
Very astute observation.
Wow...all of you bashing on her mothering skills based on her body language in one picture? Damn, I hope no one ever goes through my photo album. This is one picture, people, snapped in a fraction of a second. Granted she probably could have done things better but she loved her son, that was clear, and I firmly believe she would never have put him in harm's way. Leave the poor woman alone! Bash her for being a bimbo, bash her for being stupid, but come on--it was her son!
I think Children's Services needs to take that baby away from her.
if I'm her son I'll be on drugs too!
No one FORCED him to take all of those things. It was his CHOICE.
Plenty of people are killed every day do to medical malpractice. Doctors never cheak the PDR before giving a mixture of drugs. It wasn't the god damn methodone. It was the mixture of Antidepressents.
I had a near fatal reation to antidepressents myself.
Dumb fucking doctor almost killed me. They give you free samples and no computer to chcek for side effects that way. Never take free smaple always rely on pharmasists over doctors. They get kickbacks from drug companies to get you on the drugs. Never shuld zoloft and lexapro been combined. And for the asshole who said Anna should have known better. It was an innosent oversight to trut the doctors to know better. You all will hang on the methadone an not the toxic antideprennents. For anyone with loved ones on these drugs go to prozacawareness.org and read up and get your love ones off them safely. Save there healt and life.
I was given methadone to get off of Percocets, which I became addictied to because of a serious back problem. They test your heart before they will give it to you because in rare cases it can cause heart attacks. I wonder if he was given the heart test before the methadone was administered. That is if it was a legal prescription by a doctor. God Bless Him, Peace.
The reports say that a CUMULATIVE effect of the three drugs caused his death. Don't these doctors ask what all else you're on before prescribing all this shit or did he not tell them? Poor kid.
THEN WHY WAS HE DEAD 34 MINUTES BEFORE ANS & HKS CALLED IN NURSES?
GET REAL PEOPLE
I was talking to husband about this last night, doctors need to be held responsible for fuck-ups like this. His response was that the pharmacist should be overseeing the medication. Well what happens to someone when they use two or three different pharmacies?????? Doctors get paid plenty, it's their responsibility, I say.
Watch them sue the makers of Zoloft and Lexapro.
Methadone? I wonder how much responsibility should be put on "mom" for being such a great role model.
We all have seen plenty of tapes of her at various functions drunk/stoned on her ass and slurring her words. But, I think she slurs her words when she's clean too.
Yes, I thought Methadone sort of "mimicked" the feeling of using heroine which is one of the reason it was so successful in helping addicts drop the habit. The only problem is that many junkies then became addicted to the methadone!
Oh yeah, let's blame the medical people. God forbid Anna, etc take responsibility.
I beleive he died from a lethal drug combo, I took an antidepressant once and had a horrible reaction called serotonin symtom which makes your brain feel is if it is burning and you sweat like you are on fire and all of these drugs if you read warnings on labels have had people die from taking them once, every antidepressant hads rare but fatal side effects, he unfortunatly was one of the rare people RIP
The case is fishy , somebody gave daniel morphine , earlier reports said he was in pain ? did he have surgery earlier?? did the nurse give it to daniel , or are the lawyer and anna both on opiates , and one of them gave it to daniel...
If it was planned by the lawyer , then he is really diabolically smart.
Bottom line this sensless death could have been avoided.
Apparently, one pill of methadone CAN kill. And it just may have, in this case.
So very sad.
I do think it was an accident. I bet Howard did give him the Methadone. But watch, Howard and Anna will be married very very soon.
One quarter of hospitals visits in the US are a result of prescription drugs (and that does NOT include ODs, and suicide attemps) but you wont see any big campaigns.
More people die every year due to complication of aspirin and similar over the counter medications that ALL illegal drugs put together yet the drug dealers who push the Prozac, Zoloft and other happy pills are allowed advertizing them on TV.
I highly doubt a lawyer would be doing drugs unless its valium to ease the pain.
J | 09.27.06 - 6:19 pm | #
Really, you highly doubt a lawyer would be doing drugs. Hu, strange thing to think. Did you ever see Anna's show? Stern is a very creepy guy, silly things like morals and ethics never appeared to have bothered him much.
guess the medical care in the bahamas ain't all that..... yeesh
it would be hard to be 20 yrs old and have anna as a mom. it looks like he isn't looking at her like a son should look at his mom. i always though he looked like he was in love with her. that would be freaky nip/tuck kinda shit
Using Anna's used straw can bring these chemicals into your body.
katrina | Homepage | 09.27.06 - 6:49 pm | #
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I believe that is exactly what's going on.
What a fucking mess! I do feel for her loss, but she made her own choices. She let Stern stay in her life, she made that choice. Granted, he was probably the only one sick enough to stick around while she emotionally abused her son and physically abused herself. I don't feel sorry for her because she made the choice to spend the bulk of her life drunk or high. The only one I really feel sorry for is her poor dead son.
Pardon me, apparently I feel quite strongly about this. *walks away to calm down*
Yes the Dr has a responsibility to moniter meds..but the patient has the responsibility to inform the Dr about what and how much he/she is taking and what they are taking. The patient is responsible to take the drugs AS DIRECTED and not mix with alchol and heed the label warnings which are on all inserts from any pharmacy. This also presumes that the patient is not DR shopping and only seeing one physician and being HONEST and forthright in providing a list of any and all meds. Street drugs are NEVER to be combined and seeing many Dr's and taking however many pills seem to work are a definite prescription for OD. No Dr will be sued for this b/c the patient did not (I bet my tits) inform the Dr of the drugs he was taking and I guarantee he was asked! Its the law in NY and CA. This kid OD"d!!!!
I have only heard about methadone being given to recovering heroin addicts, and thats it.
As far as the combination of the anti-depressants, that seems a little odd to me..I can see a combo of an anti-depressant and anti-anxiety, but to have two different kinds of pills for the same purpose? seems kinda weird..
me thinks he got the methadone from someone else just to catch a high off of it..he doesn't seem like the type of kid to be riding the horse and would actually be needing it.
"I had a near fatal reation to antidepressents myself.
Dumb fucking doctor almost killed me. They give you free samples and no computer to chcek for side effects that way. Never take free smaple always rely on pharmasists over doctors. They get kickbacks from drug companies to get you on the drugs. Never shuld zoloft and lexapro been combined"
Baloney, anti-depressants are prescribed only, not given as free samples. They are taken only with the advice of a physician or pshchiatrist. Believe me, I'm in the medical profession.
And that should be psychiatrist.
If you got them as a sample, your MD is subject to having his license taken away. Did you turn him in. I didn't think so.
X5 is right. Pathologist Wecht said that the methadone was not prescribed by a Dr nor was one of the other drugs. He said that no one (including ANS or HKS) knows where Daniel got the drugs.
cough-cough-Bullsh!t cough cough
All of you people protecting poor ANS need to watch this and remember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...=B7jKSbVsMuM&
NR
ANS was drinking beer on May 29 and announced June 1 that she and Larry were having a baby. -just Google ANS and Larry Birkhead see for yourself
I just watched the clips for Mad Tv Anna Nicole Show that shit was funny as hell!! Just like her! The only person I feel sorry for is no longer here RIP Daniel.
Methodone is used for pain. It can also help Heroin addicts with withdrawls but PRIMARILY for pain. but they just had something on Dateline recently how it is misused by drs all the time. they are now prescribing it along b/c of the scare with Oxycontin and such. And many people have "suddenly" died while on Methodone. Man this is weird! They just had that piece on this stuff the other night!!!
You can't really die from antidepressants is the thing. These are SSRIs. They aren't deadly. They are drugs in the same family as Prozac.
I don't know that much about how they interact with methadone but methadone is a narcotic in the same class as oxycontin or percocet or vicodin. When I had a smashed broken leg I was on oxcontin and morphine, xanax and lexapro.
I don't think anyone could even get methadone without being in at least some incredible pain if not heroin withdrawal. So maybe the drugs did cause his death, but in the same way the NRA claims guns don't kill people, people kill people, who gave him the drugs that killed him? Even if he took the methadone himself, how did he get it?
How did he get such easy access to methodone???
My uncle is a recovering heroin addict and he has to go to a seperate clinic, sign in, go through like 4 heavy-duty security doors and have ID checks to get some. Was he a recovering heroin addict, or did Howard K. slip him something "awesome, ya gotta try it"...
... This kid OD"d!!!!
patty cake | Homepage | 09.28.06 - 11:27 am | #
This was an OD, (combination of the 3 drugs in his system), but was that his own "intent?" Right now they are saying no, it was not.
Most likely he did shop for doctors to get at least one of these meds. Or he was not aware of the lethal combination. Just because he was taking medication for depression, doesn't mean it was intentinal act.
Psychiatrists routinely prescribe two types of anti-depressants to be taken at once. It's very common. For example, years ago I took Welbutrin and Paxil together. It's because the drugs treat different chemicals, and sometimes the doc tries a patient on different things until the best combination is found.
anonxx | 09.27.06 - 6:26 pm | #
THIS IS ALMOST NEVER THE CASE - PRESCRIBING TO SSRI'S (SEROTONIN ANTIDEPRESSANTS) TOGETHER. Wellbutrin works on Dopamine not serotonin so you will often see Paxil (SSRI) + Wellbutrin or Zoloft(SSRI) and Wellbutrin but never Paxil + Prozac ot Lexapro + Zoloft. Two SSRI's together can cause serotonin syndrme which guess what, can lead to death. Duh Hickey to the shrink who prescribed this cocktail.
all that was missing in that report was some Trimspa baby!
who is in your picture Stewie? Is that Taylor Hanson?
My friend Billy died of a methadone OD in 84. RIP Daniel & Billy
RIP
um I was done mourning when Anna sold the photos for 600 thousand dollars.
Methadone is VERY dangerous! I'm a chronic-intractable pain patient and i STILL ONLY take generic Vicodin aka "Hydrocodone" STAY away from methadone at ALL COSTS! If you're in that much pain ASK to be put on Oxycontin or morphine, they are MUCH safer when USED CORRECTLY, both drugs are in the same medical/legal class of drugs called Schedule II as methadone and MUCH safer! ALSO Stay away from a methadone derivative Darvocet, it kills MORE ppl than methadone even!
DEATH TO METHADONE, LONG LIVE HYDROCODONE!!!
drugs might cost your job.
As far as the passing the drug test is concern, I tried this detox drinks and capsules, which is available and passing a drug test was easy, it really worked. Now I am in to new job too. Got out of depression too.
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