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I saw it tonight.
Alex Thorpe | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 3:53 am | #

o'Reilly will wax poetic about the "pot smokers" who watch Jon's show after he does another white's only drinking fountains story about immigration tonight
jr | 03.14.07 - 4:03 am | #

We have a real friend in Jon because he is not afraid to tell it like it is. O'Reilly is a ghoul and Stephen Colbert in his satire is off putting to the right because they always thought that Archy Bunker was the kind of an American one is supposed to be. Satire is often lost on the ignorant and our population is brimming with ignorance, about everything, history, geography, politics, war, etc., etc.
The early 20th century American social critic and humorist H. L. Mencken, known for his "definitions" of terms, defined a demagogue as "one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots."
How, then, should we categorize Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, and their ilk? To them Left is anyone who doesn't agree with them. Simple definition by simplistic minds.
Richard Palmer | 03.14.07 - 4:16 am | #

youtube is gonna pull that video sooooo quick.
Anun | 03.14.07 - 5:41 am | #

Frankly, I think Stewert was on Point. The Dems should not have nixed the Debate over Ailles joke. ( It was pretty harmless to be totaly fair unlike Fox News, it sounded like something Leno would say and probably wrote. I thought it was more of a dig at bush. Shocking! )
The Dems should have said the truth, that Fox News is nothing more then a GOP mouthpiece and we dont think it will represent us in a fair setting and we are sick of taking shots and lies from this bully arm of the GOP. I think that was the gist of what Stewert was saying and why he was critical of the Dems.
Plus unlike the Right wing we can take a joke, Right? I know you sure wont see any jabs at the GOP or Bush on the Fox " Comedy " show the Half hour news hour.
Scottie | 03.14.07 - 5:53 am | #

Reno gets it too. Millions lost inrevenue because of Harry Reid. Dems will get the ass kick in 08.
UTurnipHead | 03.14.07 - 6:55 am | #

Scottie | 03.14.07 - 4:53 am | #
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They (the Dems) have just jumped on the first pretext to get out of the situation they put themselves in, and it wasn't the best pretext. But they had to do it.
Zzorglubb | 03.14.07 - 7:01 am | #

UTurnipHead | 03.14.07 - 5:55 am | #
++++++++++++++++++++++++

Dream !
Zzorglubb | 03.14.07 - 7:03 am | #

You cowards crack me up. You really do.
Mario | 03.14.07 - 7:17 am | #

youtube is gonna pull that video sooooo quick.
Anun | 03.14.07 - 4:41 am

Yes they will. Comedy Central does not give permission for people to use it on YouTube.

That being said, I watched the show. Anyone see Stewart's take on vice presidents? Priceless, and should be required viewing.
NChomsky | 03.14.07 - 8:08 am | #

Bill Maher said the same thing on Larry King Live. To be honest, they are both right, if you don't do a debate because its on FOX you are pretty just re-enforcing stupid conservatives' perception of progressives as weak.
Tito | 03.14.07 - 8:14 am | #

Chrish, this clip from last night, was one that should be shown over and over. I am amazed that the only people in the media asking the real questions are the comedians.
http://www.comedycentral.com/mot...? ml_video=83639

Jon Stewart sums it all up with one question:
"What the f*ck?"
NChomsky | 03.14.07 - 8:25 am | #

Mario The Irrelevant…..From your right wing perch all you can do is “Squawk” . I wonder where you view the center? Enjoy the minority.
BillMNJ | 03.14.07 - 8:42 am | #

As the Church Lady would way - "isn't it special" that all those nice right wingers, who love democrats, are so concerned that their fellow right wingers might not be able to see a democratic PRIMARY debate - a PRIMARY that so many right wingers will be voting in.

It has been established that Fox is a republican propganda organ. It is derided and mocked daily on the Daily Show and Colbert. It's credibility has been questioned and now its legitimacy had been questioned. The democrats told Fox to go F themselves and Fox doesn't like getting so publicly dissed.
claudo | 03.14.07 - 9:05 am | #

Actually, being the minority is working out pretty well these days for Republicans. It's giving the public a taste of how inept the left is. It takes them to task on all that 'squawking' they're always engaging in. I enjoyed the hidden camera video of the activist being chewed up and spit out by one of their own, calling them liberal idiots. Did Newshounds 'report' on that?
dan | 03.14.07 - 9:06 am | #

Actually, being the minority is working out pretty well these days for Republicans. It's giving the public a taste of how inept the left is
dan | 03.14.07 - 8:06 am

Inept? Like this? How many times we heard this song and dance routine? Is Cheney, oh I don't know, nuts or just senile, or just so corrupt he doesn't know the truth anymore Dan?

Stewart M. Powell
Hearst Newspapers
Tuesday, March 13, 2007

Vice President Dick Cheney, lashing out at Democrats for the first time since the felony conviction of Lewis "Scooter" Libby, his former top deputy, resumed his controversial claims Monday that the war in Iraq is the central front in the worldwide U.S. response to the Sept. 11 attacks.

Cheney linked Iraq and al Qaeda even though post-invasion reports by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the presidential Commission on Intelligence Capabilities found no link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda before the U.S.-led invasion on March 19, 2003.
NChomsky | 03.14.07 - 9:15 am | #

Actually, being the minority is working out pretty well these days for Republicans.

Is that why all the polls show that you're still very much in the minority?
claudo | 03.14.07 - 9:16 am | #

You guys don't learn, do you? You live by your polls, don'tcha? You make your policies per polls. Keep reading them polls, especially those exit polls!!
dan | 03.14.07 - 9:21 am | #

Is that why all the polls show that you're still very much in the minority?
claudo | 03.14.07 - 8:16 am

I've gotta say, I've seen many trolls all over the internet since 1995, but these trolls on here are the most unintelligent I've ever came across. I've even had AOHell for awhile, and even their trolls weren't as dumb as the ones that frequent here.
NChomsky | 03.14.07 - 9:21 am | #

dan, your missing faux n friends.
steve_n_austin | 03.14.07 - 9:30 am | #

Is it me or are the posting times on these threads not reflective of the dailight savings time change?
FrankC | 03.14.07 - 9:53 am | #

This could explain why so many posting here appear to be right on the edge of being full time moon-bats.....You get your news & talking points from comedy central. Jon was correct,,,this was a real "softball" joke. The reason for pulling out of this debate is there wouldn't be "softball" scripted questions,as even your man from Ohio noted.
H.L. Mencken could be describing the newest "pet rock"---Al Gore's carbon offsets.
cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 9:53 am | #

Frank....
I believe you are correct on this one, time change has not been updated.
cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 10:01 am | #

tbent | 03.14.07 - 8:56 am

"And that's why most Democrats didn't know who the Vice President of the United States was until the hunting accident."

As Jon Stewart would say, "whaaaa." No it's not democrats who are unaware, it's the Fox audience, who in a survey done by the University of Maryland, proved to be rather unaware of current events. Stewart's news is satire (and it still presents more information than Fox!) that appeals to a broad range of informed people - especially college students who, unless they're in Bible College, tend to be cynical and informed. Thing is - to appreciate satire one needs to have a certain grasp of reality - somthing that the non nuanced Fox audience just doesn't get!
claudo | 03.14.07 - 10:05 am | #

Richard....
With our Government schools mass producing mediocraty....the Dem's are sure to maintain thier voting base.
cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 10:08 am | #

And that's why most Democrats didn't know who the Vice President of the United States was until the hunting accident.
tbent | 03.14.07 - 8:56 am | #

You mean it's not Darth Vader?
FrankC | 03.14.07 - 10:09 am | #

And that's why most Democrats didn't know who the Vice President of the United States was until the hunting accident.
tbent | 03.14.07 - 8:56 am | #

I do believe the Republic's want to forget who the VP is currently.
BillMNJ | 03.14.07 - 10:21 am | #

Those who watch Fox are well informed on Anna Nicole, though.
claudo | 03.14.07 - 10:24 am | #

Cheney linked Iraq and al Qaeda even though post-invasion reports by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the presidential Commission on Intelligence Capabilities found no link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda before the U.S.-led invasion on March 19, 2003.
NChomsky | 03.14.07 - 8:15 am | #

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." Josef Goebbels
woke | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 10:32 am | #

youtube is gonna pull that video sooooo quick.
Anun | 03.14.07 - 4:41 am

Why would youtube pull the video?
Because it doesn't fit your agenda?

I didn't know we lived in Communist Russia.
The AB | 03.14.07 - 10:34 am | #

cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 9:34 am

The survey was done by the University of Maryland by interviewing adults who watched Fox - not students. And for a review of the republican connections to Fox, this article is very instructive.

"Fox News can't take a punch
by Eric Boehlert"

http://mediamatters.org/columns/...ns/ 200703130004
claudo | 03.14.07 - 10:38 am | #

cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 9:34 am

And can you name one "news" show on any other network that has, as a guest, a person whose sole purpose is to smear a republican candidate for president - a liberal equivalent of Dick Morris.
claudo | 03.14.07 - 10:40 am | #

silly, silly trolls.

The only "taste" the public is getting is the acridity of scandle after fucking scandle perpetrated by this "administration".

from perjury to cronyism to full on incompetence to gonzalesgate, the light is finally shining on these cockroaches.
supernintendo chalmers | 03.14.07 - 11:00 am | #

Fox knows you can't win except through ignorance.

If everyone in this country were truly discerning Murdoch would be dressed in a clown suit making balloon animals for the patients in psycho ward number 5 all the while telling them they are being infiltrated by commies and Democrats and Bush Jr is just like them.
Anonymous | 03.14.07 - 11:03 am | #

Hmmm I would if the Mooonie-Bats taking roost over here would approve of Air America running the next GOP primary presidential primary debate......

Nah.... they'd run away like the girlie-wusses they are.....screaming in their panties (which they like to wear around their heads -- just like Seanny, OReilly, Gibby and the Gut-steppers from Red Eye for dumbest guys...
gnusman53 | 03.14.07 - 11:10 am | #

another brainwashed troll asserts that all the letter networks lean left.

Why is that, troll? because they dare report on the ineptness of our worthless government?

the reality is there really isn't much good news when it comes to your lord's administration, is there?

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supernintendo chalmers | 03.14.07 - 11:15 am | #

As to Reid....

He should have said "as soon as Faux is REALLY Fair & Balanced, we'd be glad to appear with them in any official capacity....
...But on observation.....it may be a very long time before Faux ever could meet or pass that obstacle...
gnusman53 | 03.14.07 - 11:16 am | #

The Colbert Report compared criminal investigations last night. Seems it is 10:1 Dems being investigated for one thing or other by Repub installed judges. Anyone know what the numbers were when evil Clinton was in office? Did it reflect the same as now?
NChomsky | 03.14.07 - 11:32 am | #

Right wingers thinks Archie Bunker is an intellectual.

What O'Reilly should do is can the SP boogeyman and start reporting on the cult of the Bunkerheads.
Anonymous | 03.14.07 - 11:48 am | #

When people start quoting comedians for their political views, it is obvious that they have no clue as to what is going on. The comedians are out for laughs, those who beleive them are being laughed at!
UTurnipHead | 03.14.07 - 12:04 pm | #

UTurnipHead | 03.14.07 - 11:04 am

By whom - the knuckledragging right wingers - who are the source of much of the humor.

And those who think that Stewart is just comedy (it's called "satire" - duh) they obviously don't watch the show (too intellectual) because if they did, they would realize that Stewart has a nightly interview segment where he speaks to politicians (on both sides), authors, actors, and other interesting people. As such, many interesting books have been featured (Stewart's fans are literate) ranging from Dean's book on the new "authoritarian" republican party to Reza Aslan's "No God but God." But Fox promotes great tomes like those written by O'Reilly and Hannity - books that just reinforce the right wing memes - are Fox fans literate?
claudo | 03.14.07 - 12:12 pm | #

By whom - the knuckledragging right wingers - who are the source of much of the humor.

And those who think that Stewart is just comedy (it's called "satire" - duh) they obviously don't watch the show (too intellectual) because if they did, they would realize that Stewart has a nightly interview segment where he speaks to politicians (on both sides), authors, actors, and other interesting people. As such, many interesting books have been featured (Stewart's fans are literate) ranging from Dean's book on the new "authoritarian" republican party to Reza Aslan's "No God but God." But Fox promotes great tomes like those written by O'Reilly and Hannity - books that just reinforce the right wing memes - are Fox fans literate?
claudo | 03.14.07 - 11:12 am | #

Wow, you really get a lot of television viewing in here!! So, do you hold John Daily to the same standard as any other commentator on Fox?

Bill Clinton and Al Gore won over the MTV crowd. Well known as the most literate and intellectual sector of the voting population. You are in good company.
bent | 03.14.07 - 12:17 pm | #

Sorry, John Stewart....
bent | 03.14.07 - 12:19 pm | #

As opposed to the very literate and MENSA like NASCAR crowd?

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Canadian Paul | 03.14.07 - 12:22 pm | #

bent | 03.14.07 - 11:17 am |

Jon Stewart never said he's "fair and balanced" because he's a satirist - duuuh! He skewers everbody - as does SNL. Colbert's satire is brilliant as he is lampooning an actual "news" person - and he does it so well - hence the awards - which the object of his mimicry has never received.
claudo | 03.14.07 - 12:23 pm | #

So, do you hold John Daily to the same standard as any other commentator on Fox?
bent | 03.14.07 - 11:17 am | #

No, bent. Why should we hold Stewart to the standards of journalism, when he isn't a journalist? Fox bills themselves as a news organization and journalists, and as the Newshounds prove here everyday, they aren't.
Godzilla104 | 03.14.07 - 12:23 pm | #

do you hold John Stewart to the same standard as any other commentator on Fox?
bent | 03.14.07 - 11:17 am

well, one of them is a comedy show, on a comedy channel, and the other is meant to be a news organisation.
But i can see why you are confused, as it can be hard to tell which one is which.
Office Ed | 03.14.07 - 12:27 pm | #

Can someone post when the real Dan is back so I can take fake dan, the whiny little prick off of ignore. I don't want to misss real dans posts, he has something to say..unlike this little RW parrot
kdog | 03.14.07 - 12:32 pm | #

When people start quoting comedians for their political views, it is obvious that they have no clue as to what is going on. UTurnipHead | 03.14.07 - 11:04 am | #

I'll wager that Jon Stewart has a higher IQ and a better understanding of politics and government that all the idiots at Fox news. And he uses actual clips that can't be disputed.
JT | 03.14.07 - 12:34 pm | #

well, one of them is a comedy show, on a comedy channel, and the other is meant to be a news organisation.
But i can see why you are confused, as it can be hard to tell which one is which.
Office Ed | 03.14.07 - 11:27 am | #

By whom - the knuckledragging right wingers - who are the source of much of the humor.

And those who think that Stewart is just comedy (it's called "satire" - duh) they obviously don't watch the show (too intellectual) because if they did, they would realize that Stewart has a nightly interview segment where he speaks to politicians (on both sides), authors, actors, and other interesting people. As such, many interesting books have been featured (Stewart's fans are literate) ranging from Dean's book on the new "authoritarian" republican party to Reza Aslan's "No God but God." But Fox promotes great tomes like those written by O'Reilly and Hannity - books that just reinforce the right wing memes - are Fox fans literate?
claudo | 03.14.07 - 11:12 am | #

Yes and you guys can't seem to agree whether or not John Stewart's evening show is a serious and intellectual piece or comedy skit. Let me know when you actually agree on just what Mr. Stewart's role is.
bent | 03.14.07 - 12:34 pm | #

Don't tell me you can't look up a simple word like satire!

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Canadian Paul | 03.14.07 - 12:35 pm | #

I'll wager that Jon Stewart has a higher IQ and a better understanding of politics and government that all the idiots at Fox news. And he uses actual clips that can't be disputed.
JT | 03.14.07 - 11:34 am | #

I believe John Stewart is a very smart man. I'm not so blinded by "pure emotion" that I can't give credit where credit is due.

BTW, any clip can be disputed or questioned no matter who is showing it to you. I thought you might know that best here at News Hounds. Just because Mr. Stewart hates Republicans as much you guys do doesn't mean you can't question his motives also.
bent | 03.14.07 - 12:39 pm | #

bent | 03.14.07 - 11:34 am

I think everyone is in agreement that it's silly to equate Fox and The Daily Show.
Office Ed | 03.14.07 - 12:40 pm | #

I hate Republicans?

I didn't get that memo.

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Canadian Paul | 03.14.07 - 12:41 pm | #

Don't tell me you can't look up a simple word like satire!
Canadian Paul | 03.14.07 - 11:35 am | #

".....would realize that Stewart has a nightly interview segment where he speaks to politicians (on both sides), authors, actors, and other interesting people. As such, many interesting books have been featured (Stewart's fans are literate) ranging from Dean's book on the new "authoritarian" republican party to Reza Aslan's "No God but God."

Can you look up "WTF are you talking about?" I don't watch as much television as you do, so I am unfamiliar with this segment. Is it satire or informational or both? Is it meant to inform Mr. Stewart's viewers?
bent | 03.14.07 - 12:45 pm | #

Jon Stewart is right. Don't make up excuses just don't go. Just say no to right wing stupidity. There is not a person in the country that does not know what Fox News is all about. Nobody is going to think less of you for saying no thanks to a debate of the Democratic Candidates moderated by Fox. Have the Republican Candidates agreed to a debate moderated by Air America? Have the Republicans agreed to debate period for that matter? Has Fox News sponsored a debate of all the Republican Candidates so their viewers can know what the hell they're really voting for? The Democrats have agreed to several debates and this one will go on without Fox too. Fox should concentrate on the Party they're whoring for. Nevada Democrats all need a smack upside the head for even considering this in the first place. No we don't need to pretend Fox is a news network.
Anonymous | 03.14.07 - 12:52 pm | #

When people start quoting comedians for their political views, it is obvious that they have no clue as to what is going on.
UTurnipHead | 03.14.07 - 11:04 am | #

But you wingnuts have been quoting Bush for years now…well like you said you have no clue…. it is quite apparent
philadelphia kevin | 03.14.07 - 1:01 pm | #

Frankly, I think Stewart was on Point. The Dems should not have nixed the Debate over Ailles joke. ( It was pretty harmless to be totaly fair unlike Fox News, it sounded like something Leno would say and probably wrote. I thought it was more of a dig at bush. Shocking! )

Scottie | 03.14.07 - 4:53 am |
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I agree. The joke was a weak pretext to get out of the debate. As Stewart, said, it was as much a putdown on Bush as anything else. However, his other jokes were so bad that they sounded like they came from the "1/2-hour Comedy Hour."

The Democrats would have been better off listing Fox's numerous reporting biases -- spreading the myth that Obama went to a Madrassah; having someone (Dick Morris) with an admitted Hillary vendetta on regularly as a political analyst; coddling Coulter after her "faggot" remark; Gibson saying a vote for Democrats "is a vote for the al Qaeda" (2004) or "is a vote for the terrorists" (2006), etc.

The big question is why did the Nevada Democrats agree in the first place? It's not like Fox changed in the past couple weeks.
The Other Dan | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 1:11 pm | #

Can you look up "WTF are you talking about?" I don't watch as much television as you do, so I am unfamiliar with this segment. Is it satire or informational or both? Is it meant to inform Mr. Stewart's viewers?
bent | 03.14.07 - 11:45 am | #

Jon Stewart's show is on the Comedy Channel (hint)
FrankC | 03.14.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Dan, dont forget to put "Christo-fascist Nazi blowhards" on the list.
Muddog | 03.14.07 - 11:56 am | #

Hey, are these the childish schoolyard, name-callers the same people who lambasted Ann Coulter for just one word?

I mean, what are you so pissed at Fox for? The way you describe their viewers and staff, it would appear they couldn't conceivably be even the smallest threat to you and yours, and you claim they are in the minority. So, seriously...what's the problem then?
bent | 03.14.07 - 1:12 pm | #

Got it claudo? Office Ed has spoken for the news hounds. Did he just call you "silly"?
bent | 03.14.07 - 11:48 am

no, i was calling you silly. You are the only one here who thinks The Daily Show should be held to the same journalistic standards as Fox News.

The irony is that a comedy show actually does have higher journalistic standards than Fox.
Office Ed | 03.14.07 - 1:14 pm | #

Oh, I'm sorry dan, did I take things out of context. How naughty of me.

Since you did it first, you apologize first, then I'll apologize.

Fair!?

What about the third comment? No comment on the comment!?

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Canadian Paul | 03.14.07 - 1:20 pm | #

bent???

Some questions....

Didn't you just admit to having "half a brain"? {11:12}

Are you asking for John Stewart to lower his standards ... to match Faux?

So you are saying Comedy Central is a news network with journalists?????
gnusman53 | 03.14.07 - 1:26 pm | #

gnusman53 | 03.14.07 - 1:33 pm

And trying to get them "fixed" real quick so they can go back.
claudo | 03.14.07 - 2:38 pm | #

Alex Thorpe | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 2:53 am

I saw it tonight.
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Haven't seen it yet.

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Richard Palmer | 03.14.07 - 3:16 am

We have a real friend in Jon because he is not afraid to tell it like it is. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And he was having good fun with the Democratic plan for getting out of Iraq by October, um, August of 2007, no, wait, 2008! :)

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Anun | 03.14.07 - 4:41 am

youtube is gonna pull that video sooooo quick.
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Gotta be Viacom!

MTL
MikeTheLiberal | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 3:15 pm | #

claudo | 03.14.07 - 8:05 am

As the Church Lady would way - "isn't it special" that all those nice right wingers, who love democrats, are so concerned that their fellow right wingers might not be able to see a democratic PRIMARY debate - a PRIMARY that so many right wingers will be voting in.
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You know, claudo, I could vote in either the Democratic or Republican primary next March. So, any debates are good debates.

That said, I wouldn't trust FoxSpews at all. What would the questions be.....

MTL
MikeTheLiberal | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 3:19 pm | #

MikeTheLiberal | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 2:19 pm

We had a fun go round with possible questions earlier this week. We came up with things like a question to Obama - "how has your experience at a radical Islamic madrassah formed your political philosophy?" and to all democrats - "why are you enabling terrorism?"
claudo | 03.14.07 - 3:23 pm | #

FrankC | 03.14.07 - 8:53 am

Your right. The posts are an hour off.
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Adjust your profile.

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tbent | 03.14.07 - 8:56 am

And that's why most Democrats didn't know who the Vice President of the United States was until the hunting accident.
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And I guess you got that information from the PIOMA Foundation, right?

MTL
MikeTheLiberal | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 3:23 pm | #

FrankC, I've spent three summers working in Tuscany on Etruscan sites and I absolutely love it there. I grew to appreciate the siesta after lunch
Independent Thought | 03.14.07 - 2:25 pm | #

Tuscany is one of the most beautiful areas of Italy and Florence is my favorite city, even more so than Rome. As for me, my family is from Naples, or more precisely Caserta, there's a royal palace there with more rooms than Versailles and a much better park. Google images of Caserta, you should get plenty of hits.
FrankC | 03.14.07 - 3:35 pm | #

dan | 03.14.07 - 2:36 pm

"A conspiracy theory attempts to explain the ultimate cause of an event or chain of events as a secret plot by a covert alliance."

So, what conspiracy theory are those whacky Libs guilty of endorsing? Providing factual details of the Republican exploits the last 6 years, as opposed to Faux's covering it up, is not a conspiracy theory.
NChomsky | 03.14.07 - 3:43 pm | #

Frank, I've explained extensively that I understand that you are making a HUGE deal about the 'when'. Canadian Paul, thanks for not calling names. It opens peoples minds. I have to take the kids to eat, so in the infamous words of CA's governor, I'll be back!
dan | 03.14.07 - 4:24 pm | #

Did I miss something, or is this post all about how the Dems f'ed up???
tev | 03.14.07 - 4:54 pm | #

cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 6:46 pm |

I don't mind people that think different than me posting on here, it's the trolls I dislike. And by saying trolls, I don't mean conservatives. There's a few conservatives that post on here and I enjoy debating with, Kile I remember is one. And a conservative is not necessarily a republican, or a neocon. So, you're welcome to come on and post. Just try to stay on topic, not be insulting and make valid points, and I'd gladdly discuss things with you.

Not that you do those things. I don't know, you may. lol. But the offer stands.

So if you can do that then I don't think you'd be a troll.

what do ya say FrankC, you know better than me, is this guy a troll? lol.
Independent Thought | 03.14.07 - 8:19 pm | #

Planet Earth...

I can agree entirely w/ your last paragraph,that describes all my friends. I would include also some core moral values that I choose to live by w/o needing to impose on others, enacting HR25 and closing our borders to "Illegal Immigration"
Maybe throw in some term limits on Senators & Members of the House.
cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 8:34 pm | #

Wow. Where did my comments go? I've got to say that's pretty cowardly. You do this to me all the time though. Make sure and delete anything that makes Newshounds look bad, then leave certain posts that look as if they've gone unanswered because you delete the answers. Fair and Balanced!
dan | 03.14.07 - 10:42 pm | #

hey dannyboy

mine are gone too and ya don't hear me CRYING like a big baby about it do ya??

ya poor rw victim, ya (realize that on many rw sites, comments are screened BEFORE they are posted and not seen....and not for being off topic, but for having a different opinion....)

stop your crying and have a beer

perhaps WE will concentrate on the topic next time

eh?
planet earth | Homepage | 03.14.07 - 10:46 pm | #

dan | 03.14.07 - 9:42 pm | #

That's not the reason. If the posts get totally off topic and/or there's name calling or insults, the posts often get deleted. And it's not just troll posts, it happens to everyone here if they do that.
Independent Thought | 03.14.07 - 10:55 pm | #

I see. So you've either not seen the show or have not seen much of it, but are willing to comment on it.

How is it you know how much television I watch?

Are you stalking me?

STALKER!

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Canadian Paul | 03.14.07 - 11:47 am | #

Yes, Paul......I'm a homsexual and I like you. Is this going to be a problem for you?
tbent | 03.14.07 - 10:56 pm | #

Planet Hollywood,

Jon Stewart wouldn't let this one go.
If pointing out your hypocritical ways is whining, guilty as charged! As far as deleting due to off topic comments, here's an example of what I'm saying from above(BTW this proves what absolute liars you and your Newsfriends are):

NOT DELETED

"And that's why most Democrats didn't know who the Vice President of the United States was until the hunting accident."

"As Jon Stewart would say, "whaaaa." No it's not democrats who are unaware, it's the Fox audience, who in a survey done by the University of Maryland, proved to be rather unaware of current events. Stewart's news is satire (and it still presents more information than Fox!) that appeals to a broad range of informed people - especially college students who, unless they're in Bible College, tend to be cynical and informed. Thing is - to appreciate satire one needs to have a certain grasp of reality - somthing that the non nuanced Fox audience just doesn't get!"
claudo | 03.14.07 - 9:05 am | #

cgars32556 | 03.14.07 - 9:34 am

"The survey was done by the University of Maryland by interviewing adults who watched Fox - not students. And for a review of the republican connections to Fox, this article is very instructive."

"Fox News can't take a punch
by Eric Boehlert"

http://mediamatters.org/columns/...ns/ 200703130004
claudo | 03.14.07 - 9:38 am | #

*My response to this WAS DELETED. Same subject, Hollywood. I posted a clear response to this bogus study which Claudo was allowed to bring up twice and which has remained posted. The wikipedia links I listed just happened to show some pure bald-faced lies by Claudo. Why would that be deleted? Oh, you wouldn't want the fact that you guys are deceitful out there for the world to see. Didn't you guys get in trouble for this over at MoveOn during the elections? I love Jon Stewart!
dan | 03.14.07 - 11:17 pm | #

dan | 03.14.07 - 10:17 pm |

Planet Earth has a point. On many right wing sites, we, meaning liberals/democrats, or anyone with oposing views are not allowed to post at all. I know because I've tried.

Here you can post, and if you keep the posts on topic and civil then your views are welcomed.

All I know is that many times my own posts have been removed if I've gone off topic and gotten into a spitting match with a troll.
Independent Thought | 03.14.07 - 11:29 pm | #

Newshounds, in general, seems to be nothing more than a troll operation. It was started by George Soros and Moveon.org money and it has to be funded by deep pockets like that. You can not have a site like this without a lot of money poured into it. All these far left "bitching sites" are heavily funded by Soros and other wealthy liberal, godless traitors. The Dems like Pelosi, Obey, Lanny Davis are beginning to realize that the extreme left has taken over the party. Christian Dems are not going to buy into the constant moaning and groaning about gay rights, abortion and caving to the fundamentalist Moslem terrorists. The far left is convinced that they can write off all the South and still win in 08. I smell another 68 and 72 coming. It is going to get dicey in DC this weekend as the far left rock throwing anarchists are going to run up against some patriotic Viet Nam Vets at the Viet Nam Wall. Jane Fonda will be there. Will the NHs be there?
Hussein O'bob | 03.14.07 - 11:39 pm | #

Hey Dan, they will delete anything you put up, especially if you show that they are lying about something. It is essentially GROUND ZERO for the HATE AMERICA FIRST crowd.
Hussein O'bob | 03.14.07 - 11:42 pm | #

misinformation and lies is all the few remaining lil aWol supporters have

in fact, if you look closely at the last 7 years

it''s ALL they EVER had, eh?

move on is transparent.....their goals, money, strategies are right there on their site for ANYONE to peruse....

maybe that's what really bothers them the most, besides the fact that a GROUP of Americans averaged giving $45 apiece to effect political change

the GOP gets the majority of their funding in much larger chunks, from CORPORATE PACS

eh?

Anyone who understands the money control of US politics can see why an org like move on or soros might bother the rwrs....

whose money comes from corps....they don't expect to have to SHARE the ability to raise cash and effect political change

and that it would be

the people

instead of corporations

really pisses them off

hence we see their flying fear monkeys spewing lies and misinformation

why else would they be here?

debate?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA!

eh?
planet earth | Homepage | 03.15.07 - 4:23 am | #

(Comment from buzz-it on the orginal article about this.)

"The old adage "it's not the crime that gets you, it's the cover-up" is one that many bloggers feel should have been taken to heart. "The Dems should have said the truth," wrote Scottie, "that Fox News is nothing more then a GOP mouthpiece and we don't think it will represent us in a fair setting and we are sick of taking shots and lies from this bully arm of the GOP."

Exactly!

As for what Bill Maher said: ""Win an away game," admonished Bill Maher on Larry King Live. "If you can't stand up to Chris Wallace, can you stand up to the terrorists let alone the Republican Party?"" I'm happy that Maher finally got part of it correct, but disappointed that he's applying it in the wrong situation and the wrong way.

What Maher and others are advocating has nothing to do with standing up to someone or something but is like kids allowing themselves to be taunted into doing something stupid and unproductive by taunts of "I dare you! You're chicken if you don't!"

As for "Citing his agreement with Maher, tito blogged, "If you don't do a debate because it's on Fox you are pretty [much] just re-enforcing stupid conservatives' perception of progressives as weak.""

Er, tito, very often being strong and standing up to tyranny means refusing to play by their rules on their totally rigged playing field. As for "just re-enforcing stupid conservatives' perception", tito doesn't appear to get it that no matter what one does or doesn't do, says or doesn't say, the far-right is going to believe what it wants to believe regardless.

And what kind of questions will the Fox panel ask Democrats? You can bet that just about every single one of them will be of the "When did you stop beating your wife/husband?" variety. With Fox News's track record, the network is not going to say to itself and its hatchet people, "OK, guys, this is serious. Because this is the Democratic presidential debate, we have to stop being such partisan jerks and get 'fair and balanced' for real." It's not going to happen. And you can bet that plenty of quotes from the debate will be taken out of context and spun to present every single Democrat in the worst possible light. Because Fox retains so many of the rights showing footage from the debates, it will be hard if not impossible to counter with the context.

One tactic that abusers, exploiters, and fascists use is to get you to waste time, energy, and other resources. Limited time, energy, and resources that could have a very great impact if used somewhere else. It's also a way of wearing people down.

Yes, it is very, very, very true that people do think that if you can't stand up to the likes of Chris Wallace, Fox, etc., you can't stand up to terrorists. But allowing Fox to manipulate you into wasting resources on a rigged playing field playing by their rules and designed to put you in a bad light is NOT standing up to Wallace, Fox, the Republican Party, or the far-right. It's also very, very, very true that people also think that if you're so stupid that you keep falling for the tactics of the far-right then you're too stupid to deal with terrorists.
cactusrose | 03.15.07 - 10:46 am | #

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