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Have you notice how the media types of rallied around their fallen brother by turning the blame on to the Black community? And it's not just the usual suspects like Fox Spews either. Anderson Pooper has been going on and on about this stop snitching nonsense.

You know it's a great idea Anderson to target people who protect criminals by refusing to turn them in, but instead of making this a race issue why don't you go after the Politicians in Washington who refuse to snitch?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:37 am | #

Bernard's a white nationalist. Sean loves these guys, Fuhrman, JV and Elvis, Bernard and loves to attack Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and anyone that doesn't carry water for failed white male conservatives
jr | 04.27.07 - 4:41 am | #

It's ironic to me these media hacks fussing about Sharpton or Jesse Jackson when a race related issue pops up.

Jesse and Al don't go to the media with issues anymore, the media goes to them. FOX, CNN, MSNBC all invite them on air as guests to comment on issues involving the black community.

Then they bitch about what they had to say, or criticize their character when they don't like what they said.

I guess they hope Sharpton and Jackson will be their "Black Friend" that excuses their racism.
EJ-TX | 04.27.07 - 4:50 am | #

Our "American" sense of humor depends almost entirely on making fun of someone. To use fag, nigger, wop, greaser and a whole string of hate words does not bother Hannity. He regrets that they are no longer permissible. How can anyone be funny anymore if it is not at the expense of the "downtrodden". Since he is not the object of any of the hate words, except perhaps "whitey", as if that hurts, it actually gives a boost to his already overinflated ego. Yeah, white and proud of it and if you don't like it you can back to Africa, Italy, Mexico or some other stupid racist remark. Hannity and his associated trailer trash foxies would be out of luck if they could not attack those who are different from them. God knows who wants to be like them. Oh, I know they have millions of followers..so did Hitler and the KuKluxKlan. Like finds like everywhere.
Richard Palmer | 04.27.07 - 5:05 am | #

The world's oldest profession, racism and bigotry will always be major profit centers in the U.S.!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 5:07 am | #

Imus Producer Calls Sharpton A Terrorist, Laments Loss Of Ability To Make Racially Offensive Jokes
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Perhaps this was his Audition for Fox News? If so, consider yourself hired Bernard McGuirk.

There were several times on that show when Imus had to tell him that he went over the line. Same thing with Bo Dietl. Imus sometimes cut his mic and quickly went to a commercial.

I saw Bo Dietl's audition on Fox News about a week and 1/2 ago. I'm pretty sure his obsession over Barack Obama's middle name was a big bonus for him.

I've been somewhat curious as to why Bernard has escaped any accountability in the matter. He wasn't just the Producer of the show. He was ON the tv/radio show almost every day - engaging in racism and bigotry on a fairly regular basis.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:31 am | #

About time somebody stood up to the hate tactics of Sharpton and his ilk.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 5:35 am | #

Bernard McGuirk, the Don Imus producer who provoked Imus into making the racist remark he made that got him fired, has also been fired and is rumored to be joining FOX NEWS.

McGuirk was a guest on the Hannity and Colmes FOX NEWS show on Thursday night.

It would only be appropriate for McGuirk to join FOX NEWS. He proved over and over again on the Don Imus show that he is a racist, homophobic and sexist.

A perfect match for FOX NEWS. McGuirk would fit right in with all the closet racists, homophobes and sexists like Bill O'Reilly at FOX NEWS.
Bill Corcoran | 04.27.07 - 5:39 am | #

Have you notice how the media types of rallied around their fallen brother by turning the blame on to the Black community?

Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:37 am | #
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YES. I've observed the same exact thing Count. The only people those at Fox News (and in the media in general) can cite as racists are: black people.

I called into CSPAN about this a couple of weeks ago. While the catalyst for the topic that day was Don Imus, the overall discussion was about how racism is found on air in the media. Brian Lamb showed several clips of what Imus has said. Callers complained about Sharpton, Jackson, rappers. I called in and asked Brian why he wasn't also showing clips of people like CNN's Glenn Beck - who has been equally and as regularly comfortable in making racist/bigoted comments on the air. His response? 'We don't have any clips of Glenn Beck.' Uh, how difficult would it be to get those?! No clips of Hannity. No clips of Coulter. No clips of Boortz. No clips of Limbaugh.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:43 am | #

About time somebody stood up to the hate tactics of Sharpton and his ilk.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 5:35 am | #
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Case in point.

The main person this guy cites for 'hate tactics' is Al Sharpton. I'm curious as to who 'Wayne' would say is Sharpton's "ilk". I'd be willing to bet that he is referring to other black people.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:45 am | #

A perfect match for FOX NEWS. McGuirk would fit right in with all the closet racists, homophobes and sexists like Bill O'Reilly at FOX NEWS.
Bill Corcoran | 04.27.07 - 5:39 am | #
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Agreed. Looks like Fox News is eager to take more of it's fellow racists under it's wing. They want to corner that market as much as they can. Yeah, Fox News just wasn't racist enough. We need even more. Ugh. I would love to hear the Fox News Advertisers/Sponsors explain themselves - Especially the ones who pulled their Ads from Imus in the Morning. Some of those Advertisers:

GM
Staples Inc.
American Express
Proctor & Gamble
Glaxo-Smith-Kline

These Corporations tried to get people to believe that they had a 'moral obligation' to withdraw their large investments in a show that engages in racist or bigoted comments. Oh please. Many of the Corporate Advertisers/Sponsors on Imus in the Morning have been spending money there for YEARS. Additionally, most of them are STILL advertising on shows with just as much, if not more, racism/bigotry elsewhere. i.e. Fox News.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 6:00 am | #

You know people, I'm not black but there's a whole lot of times I wish I weren't white.

-----Frank Zappa, 1940 - 1993

With all my love,
Aunty Em
Aunty Em Ericann | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 6:11 am | #

Actually 'Paige', I am referring to people like Sharpton who uses racist and hate speech to further their own agenda. People like Bill Richardson, people like Shawn Hannity, people like David Duke, people like Louis Farrakhan, people like Donald Rumsfeld. The color of your skin makes no difference but I guess to a racist such as yourself, who can only see the world in black and white, you can't differentiate.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 6:29 am | #

I watched this segment and to be honest with you I dont think it was all that bad, the fact of the matter is, Al Sharpton is a opportunist who has to this day yet to appologize to anyone over the Tawana Brawley incident? How can you defend him? Also McGuirk was very appologetic about the incident and did not come across as a typical fox racist. There is a douible standard in this country when it comes to race, and liberals of which I include myself as one need to come to grips with that one
cjh | 04.27.07 - 6:35 am | #

But is Al sharpton a "terrorist"? how many has he slain?

Imus is a nappy headed cracker.
Wisdo | 04.27.07 - 6:44 am | #

Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 6:29 am.

Paige is not a racist, if your posts made more sense, i'm sure there would be less confusion all round.

"About time somebody stood up to the hate tactics of Sharpton and his ilk"
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 5:35 am

but an hour later you include Hannity in your list of 'race baiters'.

so how does one race baiter stand up to another race baiter?
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 6:58 am | #

Wayne- I'm calling BS I've known your type most of my life, racist as hell but, like your heroes on fux noise too CS to admit it. I'm talking William Pierce racist here. So you go ahead and protest and blather all you want but the fact will remain you are what you are and fux noise is one of your enablers.
donquixoteshorse | 04.27.07 - 6:59 am | #

"but an hour later you include Hannity in your list of 'race baiters'.

so how does one race baiter stand up to another race baiter?

Office Ed"

Race baiter? What the hell is a race baiter? I wasn't referring to Hannity at all in my first post but rather to McGuirk. Hannity is just as bad as Sharpton is.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 7:03 am | #

“Wayne- I'm calling BS I've known your type most of my life, racist as hell but, like your heroes on fux noise too CS to admit it. I'm talking William Pierce racist here. So you go ahead and protest and blather all you want but the fact will remain you are what you are and fux noise is one of your enablers.

donquixoteshorse”

I believe the news channel is called fox news, not “fux noise”. It’s not my channel of choice but I watch it from time to time. My news channel is MSNBC but for the most part I no longer watch news programs on TV... the only show I still watch on there is Countdown. Most of the news I get is from shortnews these days.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 7:09 am | #

Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 7:03 am

a race baiter is someone who uses colour and race to promote hatred and divisiveness.

and as i said, it makes no sense to say:
"About time somebody stood up to the hate tactics of Sharpton and his ilk"

and then say an hour later that Hannity is just as bad.

If you had mentioned earlier that you felt Hannity was as bad as Sharpton, perhaps your 'ilk' comment may have made more sense.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 7:26 am | #

“a race baiter is someone who uses colour and race to promote hatred and divisiveness.”

Ah, like Al Sharpton, I understand.

“and as i said, it makes no sense to say:
About time somebody stood up to the hate tactics of Sharpton and his ilk”

Why does it not make sense? Shouldn’t ti be understood that people like Sharpton (Hannity) are included in said ilk? Or did you assume by ilk I meant other black people? That sounds pretty racist to me.

“and then say an hour later that Hannity is just as bad.”

Of course Hannity is just is bad, which is why I said Sharpton and his ilk rather than just Sharpton.

“If you had mentioned earlier that you felt Hannity was as bad as Sharpton, perhaps your 'ilk' comment may have made more sense.”

It would have made perfect sense to you if you were not a racist. You have to stop looking at the world in terms of black and white and see it in every color. I am by no means wearing rose colored glasses but I at least try to look at things in the most positive way possible.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 7:35 am | #

Poor Republicans, so very, very victimised.
il128 | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 7:42 am | #

"Of course Hannity is just is bad, which is why I said Sharpton and his ilk rather than just Sharpton"
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 7:35 am

no one here is a mind reader, so how would we know that you were referring to Hannity?
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 7:46 am | #

I guess to a racist such as yourself
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 6:29 am |
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ah ha ha!! THAT is truly hilarious. Some of my best lifelong friends are black, Asian and Mexican. My sister in-law is black and she's another one of my best friends.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 7:48 am | #

Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 7:46 am.

That's a rhetorical question, i really don't want to get bogged down with semantics.
I'm not a racist, Paige is not a racist.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 7:52 am | #

Laments Loss Of Ability To Make Racially Offensive Jokes"

That's nothing compared to watching you leftists lament the loss of murderin babies after last week's supreme court decision.
Steve | 04.27.07 - 7:55 am | #

I'm not a racist, Paige is not a racist.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 7:52 am | #
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In the Fox News fan/troll world, the only racists that exist are:

-African-Americans

-Democrats who defend African-Americans

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 7:56 am | #

Oh, the troll who likes to hijack and turn every thread into flame wars about abortion returns with yet another new name... (Consider yourself ignored)
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 7:58 am | #

“no one here is a mind reader, so how would we know that you were referring to Hannity?

Office Ed”

I wasn’t referring to just hannity as I already said. I was referring to people like Sharpton, of which hannity is included. I can’t name every single person here who is like al sharpton the list would go on forever until infinity.

Maybe I am not making as much sense as I could, English is not my native tongue. I try to make my words as clear as possible and it does not help things that American English is so much different than normal English and is very confusing at times.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 7:59 am | #

“ah ha ha!! THAT is truly hilarious. Some of my best lifelong friends are black, Asian and Mexican. My sister in-law is black and she's another one of my best friends.

-Paige PbD”

So knowing black people, asians and mexicans exempts you from being racist? So interesting. Unfortunately it’s not true.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:00 am | #

Wayne Sterago | #
http://www.ripoffreport.com/ repo...ipoff144163.htm
lucky hits | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:02 am | #

So knowing black people, asians and mexicans exempts you from being racist?
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:00 am ------------------------

"knowing" is different from being lifelong friends genius. I can't wait to call them and say, you know this troll named Wayne knows me better than you do and he says that I am a racist.' Oh, I should call the guys of other ethnicities I've dated and stayed friends with and tell them the same.
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lucky hits | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:07 am | #

Tawana Brawley, dang that is a reach. But since you brought up something that happened over 20 plus years ago, did those white cops who ripped apart Abner Louima, ever offer up an apology?

And why should Al Sharpton apologize for believing in Tawana Brawley? Did Al slander anyone in that case? No. The lady said an incident happened, which later turned out to be false, and he went to bat for her.
Monte | 04.27.07 - 8:07 am | #

(me)
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:08 am | #

Wayne of lucky hits, right?
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:09 am | #

They also used the word "JIGABOO"
With that they might as well have used the "N" word.
FAUX GOP DEATH TV | 04.27.07 - 8:11 am | #

“knowing is different from being lifelong friends genius. I can't wait to call them and say, you know this troll named Wayne knows me better than you do and he says that I am a racist.' Oh, I should call the guys of other ethnicities I've dated and stayed friends with and tell them the same.”

It does not matter. The statement towards me is what proved the racism of paige. Only a racist and warped mind would come to that conclusion when I said the ilk of Al Sharpton. It is very sad indeed to see such racism alive and well in the land of the free.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:13 am | #

About time somebody stood up to the hate tactics of Sharpton and his ilk.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 5:35 am
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people like Shawn Hannity, people like David Duke, people like Louis Farrakhan, people like Donald Rumsfeld.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 6:29 am |
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I bet Al Sharpton would find it interesting that people like Sean Hannity and Donald Rumsfeld are his "ilk"....

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:15 am | #

It does not matter. The statement towards me is what proved the racism of paige.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:13 am | --------------------------

Look obtuse, attention-craving troll, you do not know me. Don't even try to tell me what my close friends, sister-in-law think of me and what I think of them. You're out of line.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:18 am | #

“I bet Al Sharpton would find it interesting that people like Sean Hannity and Donald Rumsfeld are his "ilk"....

Paige PbD”

I’m sure he would. Racists rarely recognize or admit themselves as being racist. Sharpton probably sees himself as some sort of humanitarian ha ha ha!
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:19 am | #

Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:19 am |
Can anyone interpret Wayne's ramblings. Is he a troll? I'm missing something.
Bugman | 04.27.07 - 8:27 am | #

Bernie McGuirk is an utter ars. I watched Imus for well over a decade and everything McGuirk utters shows divisive ignorance. In fact, Bernie is the reason I quit watching Imus, due to a horrid exchange with MSNBC's Contessa Brewer.

Thing is, I am an African American woman in my 40s... Probably one of Imus's biggest (ex) fans...

So I wrote the Imus show back then, over a year ago, saying I'd get Sharpton involved if Don didn't acknowledge the awful things his two sidekicks said.

They booted Brewer from the show for her part in the remarks; Bernie unfortunately stayed.

If you're interested, you can read the details of my brush with the Imus show's ugly behavior here:
http://southsidestar.blogspot.co...fan- speaks.html

Tried to tells these butt-heads to cool it with the character assassinations and slurs, but their arrogance is beyond anything I've ever seen.
kweenkong | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:28 am | #

It is very sad indeed to see such racism alive and well in the land of the free.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:13 am | #
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Who do you think you are fooling?

(Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 6:29 am)

Since you mentioned Sean Hannity as one of Al Sharpton's "ilk", please list 5 things Sean Hannity has said that you find racist. I'll wait for your direct answers.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:29 am | #

“Can anyone interpret Wayne's ramblings. Is he a troll? I'm missing something.”

I’m not a troll bugman. I guess I just have not used my words as I should have.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:29 am | #

Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:29 am |
OK, could be my fault for misreading some of your earlier postings. Olbermann does rule and Hannity sucks. Imus producer (and Imus himself) should have been canned a long time ago. As far as Imus charitable Ranch I have read but can't recall where I read it that they spend more per child than any other comparitable charity. Something in the millions for 300 kids or so. All this for a couple of weeks at this......ranch? Anyone else familiar send some links.
Bugman | 04.27.07 - 8:36 am | #

And why should Al Sharpton apologize for believing in Tawana Brawley? Did Al slander anyone in that case? No. The lady said an incident happened, which later turned out to be false, and he went to bat for her.
Monte | 04.27.07 - 8:07 am | #

Sorry to disappoint you but Sharpton did indeed slander someone in the Brawley case, he accused district attorney Steven Pagones of participating in the alleged rape. Pagones sued Sharpton and won a judgment for slander.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 8:39 am | #

“Since you mentioned Sean Hannity as one of Al Sharpton's "ilk", please list 5 things Sean Hannity has said that you find racist. I'll wait for your direct answers.”

I’m sorry but I don’t sit and write down every incident what he has done. I have not watched an episode of hannity and colmes and only what I know of them comes from this website. You seem like more the expert on hannity than I am that’s for sure though obsession isn’t a good thing. He uses more hate speech I think than he does of racism to bully his point across though I really don’t find him interesting to be honest with you. Some clips I saw on here and read about that were racist and hateful was how he and others on fox news slanted Mr. Obama by repeatedly trying to make connections about him to being a muslim and how his name sounds like a terrorists and how he tried to call Mr. Obama a racist without provocation. Although not racist but very hateful was him saying that votes of democrats don’t matter and to just stay home because democrats wouldn’t fight terrorism.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:39 am | #

I’m sorry but I don’t sit and write down every incident what he has done. Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:39 am | #
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"Ilk" is a pretty strong word to use for someone you claim to know little about (kind of like you did in calling ME and others 'racists' a few times already)

You can't name a few things (sans NH references) that Sean has said or done that have compelled you think think and say that he is a racist? Of all people you could have named, he was one of the people YOU cited above. So why is it difficult to support how you came to that determination? What brought you to this site, this thread, since you say you have never watched 1 episode of Hannity and Colmes?
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:53 am | #

Hannity is such a hypocrite. He accepts the idiotic claims made by whacko Catholic League President, Bill Donahue, yet gives McGuirk a pass on the "cardinal" schtick (while Bernie puts a cardboard box on his head). Donahue, who sees anti-Catholicism at every turn is also a hypocrite as he never called out McGuirk on this, either.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:07 am | #

I suspect that the Fox vilification of Sharpton is part of the "feud" with NBC as MSNBC uses Sharpton as a political commentator. I'm surprised that Fox isn't calling for NBC to drop Sharpton.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:09 am | #

“Ilk is a pretty strong word to use for someone you claim to know little about (kind of like you did in calling ME and others 'racists' a few times already)”

No ilk is not a strong word it means type or kind. I know little about sharpton, david duke, and bill Richardson but that doesn’t mean they are not similar in their racist views, just like hannity. Ilk is very appropriate and I am sorry that your mind came to that conclusion earlier.

“You can't name a few things (sans NH references) that Sean has said or done that have compelled you think think and say that he is a racist?”

No I can’t name a few things without the aid of newshounds because I have never watched one episode of hannity and colmes. What I know of them comes almost 100 percent from this site and many articles shows his racism or at least his hateful speech some of which I noted above. I have been viewing this site for over two years or more because for the most part the site is very informative and when coupled with shortnews I get a fairly well balanced look at the news. It is granted somewhat liberal here but I radiate that way myself so I can side with it.

Regardless it has been nice voicing my opinion but I have to go to work. Please keep an open mind always, it is very important to look at all sides before coming to a conclusion.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 9:11 am | #

Byrd, who early in his career was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, used the term on FOX NEWS SUNDAY when asked about the state of race relations in America by host Tony Snow.

“They are much, much better than they’ve ever been in my lifetime,” Byrd said. “I think we talk about race too much. I think those problems are largely behind us… I just think we talk so much about it that we help to create somewhat of an illusion. I think we try to have good will. My old mom told me, ‘Robert, you can’t go to heaven if you hate anybody.’ We practice that.” Then Byrd warned: “There are white niggers. I’ve seen a lot of white niggers in my time; I’m going to use that word.
WTF | 04.27.07 - 9:12 am | #

Racists rarely recognize or admit themselves as being racist. Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 8:19 am | #

so true, so true

nuff said,
eh?

why bother with this poor pathetic person paige??
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:13 am | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 8:53 am

Fox does love its editing. On the Rosie greatest hits tape the adjective "radical" for Christianity is garbled to make it appear that she said that Christianity is worse than radical Islam.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:13 am | #

claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:13 am |

Whoops, wrong thread.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:14 am | #

I have never watched one episode of hannity and colmes.

I have been viewing this site for over two years or more

Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 9:11 am | #
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Wayne, you never answered this: Who do you think you're fooling with this act? Seriously. You truly expect people to believe you've NEVER watched Hannity and Colmes and that you've just "been reading" this blog for over 2 YEARS? Also, you come here and unjustifiably call me and other NH readers "racists" without even knowing us and then act like an innocent, little flower. Please.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:23 am | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:13 am | #
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I'm done. He/she is ridiculous.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:24 am | #

The interview started off with a replay of Imus’ offensive comments in what seemed like a deliberate taunt aimed at those who may have been offended.

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Ellen, pray tell, how do you write bullshit like this with a straight face?
Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 9:25 am | #

Also McGuirk was very appologetic about the incident and did not come across as a typical fox racist. There is a douible standard in this country when it comes to race, and liberals of which I include myself as one need to come to grips with that one
cjh | 04.27.07 - 6:35 am | #

cjh clearly watched a bizarro world version of Insannity and "potted plant" last night.

Skinhead McGurk did everything BUT apologize. In fact, he continued to crack racist jokes on the set. It was sickening.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 9:28 am | #

claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:13 am | #
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Since Fox News, George W. Bush and many on the right have all chained themselves to the Titanic together, they'll all go down in history together as a collective unit who enjoyed and supported constant lying to the American people, corruption, deception, criminal behavior, incompetence, and utter contemptt towards Democracy, The Constitution and the majority of Americans. How proud they all must be.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:30 am | #

Please keep an open mind always, it is very important to look at all sides before coming to a conclusion.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 9:11 am | #

I sure wish Wayne would practice what he preaches...
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 9:31 am | #

(contempt)
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:31 am | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:30 am

The Bush "Legacy!!!!!!"
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:38 am | #

Wayne,

Bill Richardson has uttered "hate speech?" What? Wait--are you counting his criticism of Bush has hate speech?
E_I | 04.27.07 - 9:41 am | #

Just did a Google of Wayne Sterago.

The Wayne Sterago I found is a ripoff artist not worth spitting on if he was on fire. The Wayne I found evidently charges tens of thousands of dollars for demo CDs and then doesn't deliver.

Claims he is a talent scout for Atlantic, but never seems to get anyone a contract.

Wayne, are you from Annapolis, Maryland? Do you run Lucky Hits Records? Do you also claim to be a photographer?
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 9:44 am | #

"After acknowledging that the initial anger over the Rutgers incident was legitimate, he complained that Sharpton used it to further his own career"

Ellen, If you are so lacking in intelligence to understand Sharpton's true motives I strongly urge you to stop writing about a topic that is clearly to complicated for you to understand.
TJ | 04.27.07 - 9:45 am | #

I think it's interesting how some people lie in ambush just waiting for someone to offend them. I supoose this helps to confrim their view on how racist, homophobic, or sexist America is -- and how unfair.

Unlike the stuffy, self-important, repressed people in the legacy media, the people on Fox News are funny and free spirited. It's apparent that in their corporate culture there is no need be as politically correct. That's why they will continue to lead in cable news. Sorry.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:46 am | #

Since Fox News, George W. Bush and many on the right have all chained themselves to the Titanic together, they'll all go down in history together as a collective unit who enjoyed and supported constant lying to the American people, corruption, deception, criminal behavior, incompetence, and utter contemptt towards Democracy, The Constitution and the majority of Americans. How proud they all must be.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:30 am |
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And they go around lighting little kittens on fire too.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:50 am | #

Nice dig a the tens of millions Imus gives/raises for charity. How much have you twits given lately?
ok then | 04.27.07 - 9:52 am | #

And they go around lighting little kittens on fire too.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:50 am | #

Perhaps so, considering the bully hallichainy's idea of "sport" is to get drunk, get in a suv, and do "drive by" hunting of STOCKED quail......

What a man, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:52 am | #

It's apparent that in their corporate culture there is no need be as politically correct. That's why they will continue to lead in cable news. Sorry.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:46 am

In their corporate culture there is no need to be "fair and balanced" or even truthful. (Obama "madrassah" anyone) And that's why their viewers will continue to be very, very stupid as evidenced in the recent poll that showed the Stewart/Colbert audience to be far more informed - and these folks (many of them Generation Next) will be voting in 08 - and they won't be voting conservative republican!!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:52 am | #

In their corporate culture there is no need to be "fair and balanced" or even truthful. (Obama "madrassah" anyone) And that's why their viewers will continue to be very, very stupid as evidenced in the recent poll that showed the Stewart/Colbert audience to be far more informed - and these folks (many of them Generation Next) will be voting in 08 - and they won't be voting conservative republican!!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:52 am
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Yeah, you can get P Diddy to help get out the vote.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:54 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 9:52 am

As Ellen has pointed out, Imus' "charity" is questionable. Granted he helps to raise money for SIDS; but many other media types do the same thing for other causes.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:54 am | #

pretty funny ok then

why don't you research how much charity and programs to help the poor, sharpton and jackson have created during their lives???

and compare what you've done?

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait / Don't you know...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead

You know it's gonna be ALL RIGHT!

The Beatles, eh?

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:55 am | #

"And they go around lighting little kittens on fire too.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:50 am"

No, no, you have your facts wrong. Bush blew up frogs when he was a child. As you may know, torturing animals as a child is a red flag marking future sociopaths.
ProfessorDuh | 04.27.07 - 9:56 am | #

Perhaps so, considering the bully hallichainy's idea of "sport" is to get drunk, get in a suv, and do "drive by" hunting of STOCKED quail......

What a man, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:52 am |
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So? My idea of "sport" is to get drunk, climb into my high perfromace bass boat, and flip liberal kayakers. ;-)
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:57 am | #

The Beatles, eh?

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:55 am |
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Hey buddy, get the pot smoke out of your face. It ain't the 60's anymore you aging hippie.
TJ | 04.27.07 - 9:58 am | #

Professor Duh

They also say a man's compassion is connected to his mother

who claimed the victims of katrina were better off in a huge sports dome than their own homes

No wonder he was taking it out on small animals, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:58 am | #

TJ

It's as true today as in the 60's

as the lessons of Vietnam are

which go unlearned by those who do not study or understand or give credence to the lessons that may be learned from history

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:59 am | #

No wonder he was taking it out on small animals, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:58 am |------------------
Maybe the frogs were Democrats.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:59 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 9:52 am | #

I gave just over 20% of my income, and hundreds of hours of time to charity last year...

How about you, ok?
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 10:00 am | #

Maybe the frogs were creatures of God??
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:00 am | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 9:55 am

And don't these lyrics remind you of Fox News and the Bush administration:

Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking

Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.

The Beatles
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:00 am | #

I have a feeling that northwoods and ok then are the same people, they always manage to appear at the same time. Answering their inane rantings is fruitless as they have nothing to contribute and will soon be deleted.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 10:00 am | #

Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:01 am | #

yes claudo

with their lil piggie snouts in the iraqnam war tax trough, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:01 am | #

FrankC | 04.27.07 - 10:00 am

More little trollies to be put on Ignore!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:01 am | #

Agreed. The little trollies are dead to me.
ProfessorDuh | 04.27.07 - 10:02 am | #

Ah. A drunk boater.

It's that kind of ethical decision which makes me go "I'm not listening to his rantings ever again"

I'll add you to the list of those not worthy of a reply.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 10:01 am
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And as wee all know, Canada has no drunken boaters. Instead of blowing up frogs, Canadians club baby seals. Shocking!
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:03 am | #

The rw shills are all crapping all over themselves worried that Americans will soon begin to boycott their sponsors and they will no longer be able to rake in their ill gotten gains from spewing lies, misinformation, and white supremacy hate....

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:03 am | #

And while Shammity is spending hours and hours and hours devoted to Sharpton how many hours were devoted to the Walter Reed scandal - keeping in mind that Shammity is a big "troop supporter."

How much outrage about Walter Reed?

Don't all answer at once!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:04 am | #

.... no longer be able to rake in their ill gotten gains from spewing lies, misinformation, and white supremacy hate....
eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:03 am
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Dude, you are SOOOOOOO 60's.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:05 am | #

A highly-commended active-duty Army officer has published “a blistering attack on U.S. generals, saying they have botched the war in Iraq and misled Congress about the situation there.”

“America’s generals have repeated the mistakes of Vietnam in Iraq,” charges Lt. Col. Paul Yingling, an Iraq veteran who is deputy commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. “The intellectual and moral failures . . . constitute a crisis in American generals.” […]

[Yingling’s essay in Armed Forces Journal] signals the public emergence of a split inside the military between younger, mid-career officers and the top brass...

http://thinkprogress.org/

Bet you won't hear about this on Fox!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:06 am | #

Dude, you are SOOOOOOO 60's.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:05 am |
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Sounds like he/she has already fired up the bong this morning.
TJ | 04.27.07 - 10:08 am | #

And how about Pat Tillman's brother's blistering rebuke of the military - any mention on Hannity???

Bueller, Bueller???
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:09 am | #

This thread is sizzling out. There's stupid troll piss all over it.
ProfessorDuh | 04.27.07 - 10:09 am | #

And being a great "troop supporter" will Hannity discuss this?

"A forgotten soldier. ABC’s Bob Woodruff reported tonight on Army Sgt. James Coons, an Iraq war veteran. Coons developed symptoms of anxiety, depression, and PTSD during combat, apparently triggered by seeing a fellow soldier at a morgue. He was sent to Walter Reed hospital, where he was neglected and eventually hanged himself with a bed sheet in his room. Years later, his parents still can’t get the Army to turn over his medical records and personal belongings."

http://thinkprogress.org/page/3/

Nah, too busy trashing Sharpton.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:10 am | #

ProfessorDuh | 04.27.07 - 10:09 am

We can talk around them. Ellen will delete them later.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:11 am | #

As Ellen has pointed out, Imus' "charity" is questionable. Granted he helps to raise money for SIDS; but many other media types do the same thing for other causes.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 9:54 am | #

Yes giving millions of $ to give hope to kids with cancer is very questionable. You guys will smear anyone your masters tell you to.

I didn't give 20%, but it is was substantial.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 10:11 am | #

When the TRUTH strikes, the rw shills all do one thing...the only thing they can

SMEAR the MESSENGER, eh?

and here's why

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." Josef Goebbels

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:12 am | #

btw, about charity

Jesus stated that it isn't HOW MUCH is given, but what % of what you have.....

Mar 12:41
And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

Mar 12:42
And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.

Mar 12:43
And he called [unto him] his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:

Mar 12:44
For all [they] did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, [even] all her living.

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:15 am | #

Josef Goebbels

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:12 am |
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Well that helps to explain a lot. You get your viewpoint from the Beatles and Goebbels. Who are you going to quote from next, the Dixie Chicks?
TJ | 04.27.07 - 10:17 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 10:11 am

It's not just NewsHounds that question the Imus Ranch:

Don Imus's Ranch For Sick Children Draws Scrutiny
By Robert Frank Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

http://online.wsj.com/article/ SB...0441188513.html

WSJ - hardly liberal
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:17 am | #

WSJ - hardly liberal
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:17 am |
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Hardly any proof of any wrongdoing.
TJ | 04.27.07 - 10:19 am | #

Again, a lot can be learned from studying history, which perhaps might be the reason repug supporters are so poorly misinformed.....instead of learning from past mistakes, they are doomed to repeat them, eh?

a little bit of info about war for my friend TJ, who thinks smearing others is an argument

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer..

Sun Tsu......The Art of War

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:21 am | #

Hmmmm. Mr. Hannity appears to not like black people at all. He's a great Aryan!
DeakyFreaky | 04.27.07 - 10:22 am | #

also, note how the shill failed to mention that i quoted Jesus, eh?

Mat 23:24

[Ye] blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:23 am | #

WSJ - hardly liberal
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:17 am |
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Hardly any proof of any wrongdoing.
TJ | 04.27.07 - 10:19 am | #

Hardly any f***ing article either, unless you're a subscriber.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 10:25 am | #

Actually, if you think on it, Imus is a man without support......

Even tho he was in line with their racist beliefs,

the repugs won't support him because he continually pointed out their weaknesses and lack of responsiveness to problems like immigration.....

so, i will be suprised if he shows up on satellite radio or anywhere else

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:26 am | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:21 am

The right wing has neither understanding nor appreciation of history. Their versions tend to be "revisionist." But of course, many of these types are part of the 6,000 year old earth and abstinence only crowd. There is definitely an anti intellectual tilt in the right wing - which is why slave owners did not educate their chattel. With knowledge comes empowerment and to today's imploding right wing - empowerment of those who question their authority is very threatening!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:27 am | #

Again, a lot can be learned from studying history, which perhaps might be the reason repug supporters are so poorly misinformed.....instead of learning from past mistakes, they are doomed to repeat them, eh?
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You mean like when the Democrats nominated and anti-war candidate in 1972 and lost 49 out of 50 states?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:27 am | #

You mean like when the Democrats nominated and anti-war candidate in 1972 and lost 49 out of 50 states?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:27 am |
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And are prepared to do the exact same thing in 2008. You just have to love it!
TJ | 04.27.07 - 10:29 am | #

TJ | 04.27.07 - 10:29 am

The people of the US have also turned against this war and this president - don't you just love it!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:30 am | #

You mean like when the Democrats nominated and anti-war candidate in 1972 and lost 49 out of 50 states?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:27 am |

I know I said I wouldn't respond to this inane troll, but let's use his own words to put him in his place.

Dude, you are SOOOOOOO 70's.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:05 am | #

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 10:33 am | #

And of course the winner of the 72 election went on to...? With the internet and far more media coverage of current events, voters today are far more savy and cynical than those in 72 - cept for the Fox News crowd!!!!

And that's why Fox will continue to smear the democratic front runners who address many issues relevent to the American voter - chief of them being the Iraq war.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:34 am | #

Maybe northwood should look and see how many Democrats that took over seats in Congress last election, to give Democrats the majority are anti-war.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:40 am | #

"You mean like when the Democrats nominated and anti-war candidate in 1972 and lost 49 out of 50 states?"

And how did that war turn out? Let me recall.
ProfessorDuh | 04.27.07 - 10:40 am | #

Unlike the stuffy, self-important, repressed people in the legacy media,
the people on Fox News are funny

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 9:46 am | #
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I agree. FOX NEWS IS FUNNY. What is NOT funny is that they market themselves as a serious, 'trusted' "NEWS" organization.

There is a place to be "funny" .. sitcoms, Comedy Central, Comedy Clubs, the Circus. It would be more honest of Fox "news" to categorize themselves that way.

(You've really advanced yourself into the Most Ridiculous Trolls Club)
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:41 am | #

john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:40 am

Many of whom served in the military -none of whom get to appear on Hannity who loves the troops.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:41 am | #

Getting back to Imus...

The only program I would watch on PMS-NBC was Imus in the morning. apparently many Democrats did too -- since so many of them appeared on the show, including John Kerry numerous times. Imus was a Kerry supporter.

I have no proof of this, but I think the Clintonistas were behind the Demise of Mr. Imus. Sharpton is a Hillary supporter (He is no supporter of Barak Obama) and the whole thing looked like a hit job. Imus hated Hillary.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:41 am | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:41 am |

I'm still undecided on which show is funnier - Friends or Gibson!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:42 am | #

"I have no proof of this, but I think the Clintonistas were behind the Demise of Mr. Imus."

This person should apply to Fox News to be a "fact checker!"
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:43 am | #

'northwoods' sounds kind of Toppy-like. His posts have that same misinformed, delusional, yet indignant quality to them.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:44 am | #

This person should apply to Fox News to be a "fact checker!"
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:43 am | #
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No. imus should apply. I hope they hire him.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:44 am | #

OHHHHH!!!! Yes, the Clintons did it.

Good Grief. Do these trolls ever give up?
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:44 am | #

"I have no proof of this, but I think the Clintonistas were behind the Demise of Mr. Imus."

Sounds like what Dick Morris would say - on Hannity!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:44 am | #

I have no proof of this, but I think the Clintonistas were behind the Demise of Mr. Imus. Sharpton is a Hillary supporter
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:41 am

no proof? as if that matters.

i'd love to hear your theory on how hilary spiked his coffee, and forced Imus to make an ass out of himself.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am | #

Claudo --- How about you just say helping kids with cancer is not a noble cause. Quit hating yourself for being a white man.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am | #

I'm still undecided on which show is funnier - Friends or Gibson!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:42 am | #
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Is Fox News still showing their 1/2 hour "Comedy" show or did they figure out it was entirely too redundant?

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am | #

'northwoods' sounds kind of Toppy-like. His posts have that same misinformed, delusional, yet indignant quality to them.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:44 am
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At least I don't club cute little baby seals.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am | #

No. imus should apply. I hope they hire him.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:44 am

Imus trashed Fox frequently so I don't know if they would want him or if he would accept a job there.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am | #

I have no proof of this but I think Nortwoods is a 45 old beer bellied man named Ralph spunging off the welfare system...See how easy that is?
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 10:46 am | #

Imus trashed Of because Fox was a competitor. He was hired by MSNBC to take ratings away from Fox.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:47 am | #

He was hired by MSNBC to take ratings away from Fox.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:47 am | #
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Hell he bashed MSNBC and NBC too.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:48 am | #

northwoods

Imus and the SPONSORS were behind the demise of Imus

i know you agree since you believe in personal responsibility

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:48 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am

Of course it's noble - doesn't mean it's not quesionable as far as cost ratios. There have been many charities that have proven to be less than stellar - Red Cross, for instance. Doesn't detract from their mission.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:48 am | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:48 am

Yep, the old free market.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:49 am | #

Claudo --- How about you just say helping kids with cancer is not a noble cause.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am | #

perhaps you could admit what sharpton and jackson have done more for poor people??

or are you just unaware of it??
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:50 am | #

He was hired by MSNBC to take ratings away from Fox.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:47 am

Fox didn't have a competing radio show and radio was the principal venue for Imus.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:51 am | #

Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 10:45 am | #
Watch it! Changeling are afoot!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 10:51 am | #

I think the Clintonistas were behind the Demise of Mr. Imus. Sharpton is a Hillary supporter
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:41 am
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So, the Clintons would want to get rid of someone who always referred to Dick Cheney as a War Criminal, talked about what an idiot Bush is and frequently said how awful and disgraceful Fox News really is?

BY the way, 'Northwoods', talk about being "a Hillary Supporter" ...

- RUPERT MURDOCH HOLDS LARGE FUNDRAISER FOR HILLARY CLINTON

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ 61faabde...00779e2340.html

(Oh, Murdoch has also donated millions to Bill Clinton's Global Initiative)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:51 am | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:50 am

And being part of the Civil Rights movement - which the rabid right wing would prefer to ignore!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:52 am | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:51 am

Something that's never mentioned on Fox!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:52 am | #

I don't know which is worse for Fox - having a democratic black man or woman as president.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:54 am | #

I still feel that the remote control is the best method. I understand everything posted here and usually agree. This however is nothing more than manufactured outrage. I tell my kids "sticks and stones may break my bones" My 19 year old daughter calls her friends ho's and they call each other ho's. Is there anybody who really thinks that is the worst these girls ever heard. They are called worst than that while trash talking each other on the court. We are raising a generation of wusses. Imus comedy, Richards anger. What am I missing here. There is a difference between what Michael Richards did and what Imus did.
edukaited repumplickin' | 04.27.07 - 10:54 am | #

and what is the difference in what happened to imus and richards??
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:58 am | #

-

I have no proof of this but
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 10:41 am | #
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I think Fox News should be more like nw and preface what they say with that same introduction...

"We have no proof of this but... "

(I agree with you Frank C about okthen and nw sounding like the same person)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:58 am | #

I think Fox News should be more like nw and preface what they say with that same introduction...

They do. It's called "it's just now coming over the wires that..."
Joey | 04.27.07 - 11:00 am | #

There is a difference between what Michael Richards did and what Imus did.
edukaited repumplickin' | 04.27.07 - 10:54 am | #
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What's the difference? Do you think those men that Richards went off on has never heard those words before?
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:01 am | #

edukaited repumplickin' | 04.27.07 - 10:54 am

The women insulted by Imus are scholar/athletes who are role models for today's young women. They represent the best of their generation. I worked with a number of African American women and they certainly did not call each other ho's. If you are "edukaited" then you would know what "ho" means to women - especially African American women. Imus also called the respected black journalist, Gwen Ifil, a "cleaning lady" and that really isn't "comedy."
claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:01 am | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 10:58 am

I think we're seeing more "morphing" of sock puppets.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:02 am | #

Imus Ranch's 990 shows that Don Imus was PAID $57,500 as "Ranch Manager" in 2005.

Yeah, all the money goes to the kids... NOT!

They have ammassed a surplus of over $6 million dollars that hasn't been spent on the kids.

Let's see... they raised over $3.4 million last year. At 90 kids per year, that equals almost $38,000 per kid to send them to New Mexico for a week!

Finally, a report showed that 20% of the 80-90 kids who visit the ranch each year have a negative experience.

http://www.wheremostneeded.org/ 2...ranch_viol.html

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocu...-0276584e- 9.pdf
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:02 am | #

Imus also called the respected black journalist, Gwen Ifil, a "cleaning lady" and that really isn't "comedy."

Is it "comedy" to call the commander-in-chief a "chimp"?
Joey | 04.27.07 - 11:03 am | #

Something that's never mentioned on Fox!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 10:52 am | #
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Right along with the other obvious omissions: That a Muslim Saudi Prince, al-Waleed bin Talal, partially OWNS Fox News (the same bin Talal who said U.S. Policies are to blame for 9/11). The other obvious omission: That Rupert Murdoch owns one of the biggest Hollywood Studios out there - 20th Century Fox (along with several other Movie Studios like Fox Searchlight - they make very artsy films and often feature very positive stories about gays & lesbians).

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:03 am | #

TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:02 am

Thanks. I tried to find the Imus charity on "Charity Navigator" but came up with nothing. Do you know if it's incorporated under a different name?
claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:04 am | #

Is it "comedy" to call the commander-in-chief a "chimp"?
Joey | 04.27.07 - 11:03 am | #
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Did he evolve from a different species?
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:05 am | #

Is it "comedy" to call the commander-in-chief a "chimp"?
Joey | 04.27.07 - 11:03 am

It's satirical - like when Rush refers to Senator Kennedy as "the swimmer" - and certainly not racist (like when Boortz referred to Cynthia McKinney as a ghetto slut) or sexist (like when Rush refers to feminists as feminazi's).
claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:06 am | #

Truthwatch you are as pathetic as Claudo. Please just say: "Giving hope to kids with cancer is not a noble cause." 38k is a small amount compared to a child's hope and happiness.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:07 am | #

claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:04 am | #

The Imus Ranch, Inc.

EIN: 13-3997308
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:08 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:07 am

That's not the point. I guess you're saying that's it's OK for charities to do whatever they want as long as "some" money is spent on their clients.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:08 am | #

Imus spends his money on his charities. And it is the point, especially when all you contribute to society is blogging on this site with the rest of the clauds.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:10 am | #

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imus_Ranch
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:12 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:07 am | #

$38K per kid is obscene. With $38K, I could send 76 kids to our church's summer camp for a week.

Giving hope to kids is a great thing. Too bad Imus has instead ammassed a fortune, built obscenely expensive studios, and personally profited from those who thought all of the money was going to the kids...
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:12 am | #

Too bad Soros has instead ammassed a fortune, built obscenely expensive grass roots organizations, and personally profited by breaking the bank of England.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:10 am | #

Since most of what you wrote there is bullshit...

Imus RAISED most of the money. HE doesn't GIVE most of the money.

I gave over 20% of my income and hundreds of hours of time to charity last year, so unless you can match your words with deeds, STFU!
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am | #

Show me any proof he has profited from donations. He profited from being a successful DJ for decades.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am | #

claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:08 am |

"I guess you're saying that's it's OK for charities to do whatever they want as long as "some" money is spent on their clients."

That is what the charity called Military-Industrial-Govermental complex does!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 11:15 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am | #

Agreed. But then, Soros isn't the topic, is he?
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:15 am | #

Imus RAISED most of the money.

You're right. He is a piece of S*%$!
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:15 am | #

I think we're seeing more "morphing" of sock puppets.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:02 am | #
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Trolls like toppy and northwoods/ok then remind me of my little 4-yr old niece twins, Julia & Lauren, who come over to play dress up. They'll go change into something funny and different but hope we won't notice that it's still them under their various disguises. With them, we pretend that we think each costume means that they're different people. I don't feel the need to pretend for the (likely adult) trolls. Even the twins are more effective in trying to pull it off! :)
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:17 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am | #

Form 990, Schedule A, Part 1, line 2:

Don Imus, Ranch Manager- $57,500 Compensation

STFU!
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:17 am | #

You're right. He is a piece of S*%$!
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:15 am | #

I never said he was a piece of shit.

I only pointed out the truth about his charity.

Sorry that truth is so inconvenient to you...
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:19 am | #

That is what the charity called Military-Industrial-Govermental complex does!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 11:15 am |

That's not charity, that's full blown taxpayer funder welfare.
dan | 04.27.07 - 11:22 am | #

funded even
dan | 04.27.07 - 11:22 am | #

If you're doing things for charity for the recognition, you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 11:22 am | #

57500 = 2.3 %. Oh and Don Imus the ranch manger = Donny Imus, Don Imus' son.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:24 am | #

dan | 04.27.07 - 11:22 am |

I stand corrected!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 11:24 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:07 am

I'll agree Imus has done some good work. He raised money to build the Intrepid Center in Texas.

And do you know one of the donors that donated $300,000 was Rosie O'Donnell.

Now, you would agree that was a noble thing Rosie did?
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:25 am | #

If you're doing things for charity for the recognition, you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Agreed. Where is Imus doing it for recognition. He got plenty of that as a celebrity.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:25 am | #

Now, you would agree that was a noble thing Rosie did?

Yes, very.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:26 am | #

Donny Imus, Don Imus' son.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:24 am
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Don Imus's son is named Wyatt. And he's only about 6yrs old.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:27 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:24 am | #

I didn't know he had a son...

But, even then, I guess in the GOP bizarro world, it is better to PAY his son from the money raised for the kids instead of from his own pocket, eh?
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:27 am | #

Hannity fretted, “Are we now at the point where there’s no room for ethnic jokes?”
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The horror! Po, po, broadcasters...

Geez, whatever will simulcasted radio and TV entertainment be like without some asshole WASP (or in Hannity's case, WASP-wannabe) DJ making unfunny dumb Polack jokes? Irish drunkard jokes? Greazy WASP jokes? Mexican jokes? "Nappy headed ho" jokes? Cheap azz Jew jokes? "Cat in the lo mein at the Chinese restaurant" jokes?

Hardy har fuckin' har...

Hannity does have a point - and as always, it's atop his brainless pointy conservative loudmouth cretin head. Yeah Sean, "ethinic jokes" jumped the shark right around the time All in the Family ended its run on CBS in the 70's.

But now we have this survey (the second one recently that had basically the same results) -

SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest

A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last...

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04...-fox-knowledge/

So, Seany boy, I propose that we replace the loss of ethnic "humor" as our culture evolves with "dumbazz conservative cretin jokes" like this:

How many Fox "News"-watching pointy-headed conservative cretins does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

None - they prefer to stay in the dark.
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A British man is driving with a Fox Noise watchin', Bill O'Reilly seriously taken' conservative cretin as his passenger. He decides to pull over because he suspects that his turn signal may not be working properly.

He asks the conservative idiot if he doesn't mind stepping out of the car to check the lights while he tests them. The conservative moron steps out and stands in front of the car.

The British man turns on the turn signal and asks, "Is it working?"

To which the conservative cretin replies, "Yes, it's working....No, it's not working...Yes, it's working...No, it's not working..."
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:28 am | #

I wish I was making 57,500 at 6 years old!

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 11:29 am | #

Too bad Soros has instead ammassed a fortune, built obscenely expensive grass roots organizations, and personally profited by breaking the bank of England.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am | #

This is the kind of answer that should convince you that indulging this troll is a waste of time. Why are you even giving this dweeb the time of day?
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 11:29 am | #

(like when Rush refers to feminists as feminazi's).
claudo | 04.27.07 - 11:06 am

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or allows a skit on his show entitled "Obama the Magic Negro".

I'm sorry but that is miles above and beyond where Imus went and he deserves the same response....yet I'm not hearing it.

I'm hearing Hannity calling Al Sharpton a racist while ignoring Limbaugh.

Racism is not the same problem it was 100 (even 50) years ago in this country, but it seems like we have people longing for the good ol' days.

I've had it up to here (picture an average sized male holding his hand at about eye level) with the ignorant excuses like "well if they say the "n" word why can't I"....and Hannity and his minions seem to be marching to that beat.
DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 11:29 am | #

Wyatt Imus is his son with Deidre, his second wife. Donny Imus is in his 30's. And the ranch is incorporated, and why shouldn't the manager be paid a salary. Iums gave it much more than that anyway. You are grasping.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:29 am | #

Greaser? Don't you mean greaseball? A greaser is like a 50s hot rod guy.
DeakyFreaky | 04.27.07 - 11:30 am | #

Can not make it on facts FrankC so you have to insult. Very nice.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:31 am | #

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Too bad Soros has instead ammassed a fortune, built obscenely expensive grass roots organizations, and personally profited by breaking the bank of England.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am | #
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Ah yes... the typical troll whining about wealthy people who are Democrats instead of Republicans.

With rich Repubs, the trolls refer to them as "successful" and "winners". Even "Capitalist Pig" is considered to be complimentary when you're a Repub. With rich Democrats, they refer to them as "snobs" or elitists" or in this case, "obcene".

Oh and, "breaking the bank of England" ?? Um, hello ?

Look at what George W. Bush and his rubber-stamping Repubs in Congress did in 6 years to the break the bank of THE UNITED STATES, such as:

-5 RECORD HIGH DEFICITS IN A ROW !

Look who has "PERSONALLY PROFITED" while they've shown their signature flair for 'fiscal responsibility and discipline'! Dick Cheney and all of the incompetent, crony Contractors, just for starters.

The Republican Party really needs to go back to the drawing table and come up with more accurate slogans to represent themselves. They've pissed away ALL of the earlier ones.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:31 am | #

Only if consider the truth an insult.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 11:31 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:29 am | #

This is the only reference to Imus' children I could find. It seems to completely refute what you had to say.

"In 1994, Imus married his second wife, Deirdre Coleman (born 1964). He has four daughters from a previous marriage and one son, Frederick Wyatt (known as Wyatt, born 2000), from his current marriage. Deirdre is vegan, and both Imus and Wyatt are vegetarians."

Please feel free to give a link to any credible source that states he has a middle-aged son.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:32 am | #

(obscene)
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:33 am | #

Hannity fretted, “Are we now at the point where there’s no room for ethnic jokes?”
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I like conservative idiot jokes better:

Heard about the conservative idiot hockey team? They all drowned during spring training.
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:33 am | #

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANS.../12/ lkl.00.html

search for Donny.

I think rich democrats are fine.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:34 am | #

Too bad Soros has instead ammassed a fortune, built obscenely expensive grass roots organizations, and personally profited by breaking the bank of England.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:14 am

That's a rightwing talking point.
Soros was able to amass a fortune because of the incompetence on the UK chancellor, who delayed pulling out of the ERM.
Soros just played the hand he was given.
If Soros was a rightwinger, his actions would be described as 'audacious' but because he's a democrat, his money is somehow tainted.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 11:35 am | #

Can not make it on facts FrankC so you have to insult.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:31 am | #

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WRONG. That's pure projection.

Frank C is one of the best posters here.

(Troll/sockpuppets: Please make sure you put my pearls back in my jewelry box when you're done playing dress up. Thanks.)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:35 am | #

My bad. Donny is Don Imus' nepheew.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:36 am | #

Imus: ..uh, about two blocks off the Plaza, which I think is in the
city limits, that ah, uhum, my nephew ah, Donny Imus lives in..

http:// rhhardin.home.mindspring....n.fredmayor.txt

only in northwoods' bizarro world a nephew becomes a son.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 11:37 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:34 am | #

I did. Donny is NOT Don, nor is he Don's son as you incorrectly wrote.

Donny is his nephew.

So, we now know that he gave his nephew a $57,500 a year job instead of spending the money on the kids...
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:37 am | #

So, the manager should not be paid, and I did correct myself. Do you work for free?
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:38 am | #

And DS Frank, I am not NW. He does make some good points though.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:39 am | #

WRONG. That's pure projection.

Frank C is one of the best posters here.

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:35 am | #

Paige, as always, thanks for the kind words, but I have nothing to prove to this troll, let's get back on topic.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 11:40 am | #

If the manager is not Don Imus himself, I don't think it is unreasonable that he be paid.

Most people who run/manager charitable organizations. They've got to have an income too, unless they're independantly wealthy.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 11:40 am | #

George Soros controls the universe!
DeakyFreaky | 04.27.07 - 11:41 am | #

I'm hearing Hannity calling Al Sharpton a racist while ignoring Limbaugh.
DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 11:29 am | #
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It's just another example of how those at Fox News can only find the following examples of racists:

- black people
- Democrats who don't feel superior to black people

(Aren't Christians supposed to believe that all 'were created equal in the eye of God' ? hmmm...)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:41 am | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:38 am | #

Yes, I work for hundreds of hours each year for free for three different charities.

I also donate web sites to them.

I also give them thousands of dollars each year.

I am also going to leave them the bulk of my estate when my wife and I die.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:41 am | #

Darn. This remarkable discussion regarding Imus's relatives was about as stimulating as watching hair grow on a Chia Pet.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:41 am | #

you guys, turn on one of the cable news channels. Bush is up there babbling, slurring, not making much sense, huffing and puffing. He looks like sh*t, too...

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:41 am | #

He's acting like he's drugged or something. Either that or something is mentally wrong with him (more than usual)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:42 am | #

Yeah. Watch Fox News.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:43 am | #

Bush is babbling, slurring and not making any sense?

And you're point is...?

:)

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 11:43 am | #

ok then,

Keep in mind, the ranch only does charitable work 8 or 9 weeks out of each year.

Seems like Imus is paying a hell of a lot of money to a family member for the 8 or 9 weeks a year they actually do charitable work at the ranch...
Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 11:43 am | #

I also give them thousands of dollars each year.

I am also going to leave them the bulk of my estate when my wife and I die.

Wow, where do you get the money if for an estate if you always work for free? Nice trick.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:44 am | #

Next thing Faux News wants is to allow a legal defence of "White Cultural Heritage" in cases before the FCC when ethno-racial or ethno-religious insults, slurs, etc., are involved.

The same one which those promoting Die Bransoner Muzikschaukultur as The Final Perfection of American Culture would enjoy using to push Branson.
the daily phosdex | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:45 am | #

Hannity fretted, “Are we now at the point where there’s no room for ethnic jokes?”
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Ethinic jokes are so 1970's, Seany. How 'bout something a little more current? How 'bout some conservative idiot jokes? Like this -

A Fox Noise watchin', AM hate-jock listening conservative idiot went to a carpenter and asked, "Can you build me a box that is two inches high, two inches wide, and fifty feet long?"

"Hmm..." mused the carpenter. "It could be done, I suppose, but what would you want a box like that for?"
"Well, you see," said the conservative cretin, "my neighbor moved away and forgot some things, so he asked me to send him his garden hose."
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SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest

A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04...-fox-knowledge/
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:45 am | #

Seems like Imus is paying a hell of a lot of money to a family member for the 8 or 9 weeks a year they actually do charitable work at the ranch...

It is a working cattle ranch. Cows all year round. And nice lefty talking point...He gets paid too much. Waaa.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:45 am | #

Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 11:43 am

I guess I'll have to go against the grain here. It is a working cattle ranch. It's not just open 8 or 9 weeks a year.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:46 am | #

Working cattle?

What kind of work do the cattle do!?

Lousy, lazy cattle!

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 11:47 am | #

I think they run the Newshounds site.
Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 11:48 am | #

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 11:47 am

They mow the grass and weed eat.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:48 am | #

Wow, where do you get the money if for an estate if you always work for free? Nice trick.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:44 am | #

Nice try at fiction, ok then. I never said I always work for free.

How do I do it? Simple...

After decades as a marketing exectutive for a Fortune 50 company, a founded a company that programs web sites and databases.

Also, a lot of smart investing... like pulling out of the stock market the day after Dumbya was selected by the SCOTUS.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:49 am | #

I have no proof of this, but i believe Imus was feeding those poor kids to his cattle, kind of like junior soylent green.
(i don't see why only the right can make outrageous, slanderous comments)
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 11:51 am | #

TW...congrats on living the American dream. I think a few of your fellow regulars here would claim you stole to become wealthy.
Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 11:51 am | #

It is a working cattle ranch. Cows all year round. And nice lefty talking point...He gets paid too much. Waaa.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 11:45 am | #

Once again, not-so-creative fiction on your part.

I never said he was paid "too much".

I only pointed out that money that could have gone to the kids instead goes to an Imus family member.

The charity should only pay for the time Donny spends actually supporting the charity. The rest of his salary should come from Don's pockets.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:52 am | #

To tell you the truth, I really don't give a shit who Imus is paying to help run his ranch. I thought the discussion was about those two hypocrites: Sean Hannity and Bernard McGuirk
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 11:52 am | #

Hannity fretted, “Are we now at the point where there’s no room for ethnic jokes?”
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Ethnic jokes are so 1970's, Seany. How 'bout something a little more current? How 'bout some conservative idiot jokes? Like this -

Did you hear about the conservative idiot who locked his keys in his car?

Answer: He had to use a coat hanger to get his family out.

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SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest

A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04...-fox-knowledge/
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:52 am | #

A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:52 am | #

Hell, I didn't need a study to tell me that, but it's nice to get confirmation.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 11:53 am | #

I only pointed out that money that could have gone to the kids instead goes to an Imus family member.

Last I heard too much money was going to the kids.
Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 11:53 am | #

Last I heard too much money was going to the kids.
Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 11:53 am | #

Where did you hear that?

The charity's percentage that actually goes to the kids is paltry!

Imus has amassed over $6 million dollars that he hasn't spent on the kids, for Christ's sake!
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am | #

What's ironic is that Imus and his wife would have a cattle ranch and they're both vegetarians.

They don't even feed those kids any beef when they're there.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am | #

(i don't see why only the right can make outrageous, slanderous comments)
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 11:51 am | #
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My theory...

It's largely because the media in general, let's them. Bush and this batch of Republicans have lied about so many things for so long, with no hesitation, and in doing so - the media just thinks it's perfectly normal and acceptable now. It was a "Constitutional Crisis" when Clinton lied about a blow job. Republicans spoke as if the world was coming to an end. These days, the media barely blinks each time Bush/Republicans lie. This is the climate Fox News has created. Most in the media are Bush Admin. lapdogs.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am | #

SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest

A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04...-fox-knowledge/
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:45 am | #
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"Here’s the only problem, you pathetic, ignorant, poorly educated dolt: Conservative Republicans are better educated and smarter than Democrats, as a group, no matter how one dices the data. Based on the 1974-2002 General Social Surveys, the private database that sociologists depend on most as the foundation for their research, conservative Republicans score the highest of all known political groups in the following categories: years of education, highest degree attained, vocabulary and analytical abilities."

http://www.boulderweekly.com/ arc...waynesword.html
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am | #

Hannity fretted, “Are we now at the point where there’s no room for ethnic jokes?”
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Ethnic jokes are so 1970's, Seany. How 'bout something a little more current? How 'bout some conservative idiot jokes? Like this:

An AM radio hate-jock listenin', Fox Noise seriously-takin' conservative cretin was suffering from constipation, so his doctor prescribed suppositories. A week later the conservative idiot complained to the doctor that they didn't produce the desired results.

"Have you been taking them regularly?" the doctor asked.

"What do you think I've been doing," the conservative idiot said, "Shoving them up my ass?"
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SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest

A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last...

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04...-fox-knowledge/
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 11:57 am | #

Anonymous | 04.27.07 - 11:48 am | #
"I think they run the Newshounds site."

Only the section(s) set aside for Trolls!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 11:57 am | #

"Wayne, are you from Annapolis, Maryland? Do you run Lucky Hits Records? Do you also claim to be a photographer?

TruthWatch"

No, I am not from Annapolis MD. I don't know what lucky hits records are but no. I am in photography though, I am an adult webmaster.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 11:59 am | #

conservative Republicans score the highest of all known political groups in the following categories: years of education, highest degree attained, vocabulary and analytical abilities."
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am

Which makes watching, and defending Fox even more shameful.
You must know that they are talking complete toss, and yet you lap it up.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 12:00 pm | #

Imus has amassed over $6 million dollars that he hasn't spent on the kids, for Christ's sake!

It is sitting somewhere building interest to be spent on the kids. And if you look earlier in this thread there was some bitching about how is spent per kid. Imus spends too much on the kids but not enough on the kids. blah blah blah.
ok then | 04.27.07 - 12:00 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am

You are joking with that link aren't you?

If not, you are a very sad pitiful person.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:01 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am | #
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Awwww, whatsamattah, conservative cretin? Are you upset? Some asshole DJ calling the African-American members of a women's basketball team "nappy headed ho's" broadcast into millions of homes is okay, but "conservative cretin jokes" posted on a blog piss you off?

Thanks for being the first conservative idiot to take the bait and blow a gasket, Chump. You win the conservative idiot booby prize.

So, easily manipulated. I can make you dance, I can make you sing, I can make you laugh, I can make you cry... No wonder you're stupid fucking marks for the GOP. So fuckin' stuuuupid.
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:01 pm | #

Imus producer criticizes Rev. Sharpton Thu Apr 26, 10:10 PM ET

NEW YORK - Don Imus' former producer said Thursday that the radio exchange that got them both fired was wrong, but that it would be horrible if people could no longer poke fun at each other.

Bernard McGuirk, a 20-year producer and on-air jester for the "Imus in the Morning" program, was fired a week after his boss for the banter in which members of the Rutgers University women's basketball team were called "nappy-headed hos."

McGuirk, in an interview on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," said he "didn't get the memo" that the phrase 'hos' had reached the level of the n-word in offensiveness. But apologies to the Rutgers team were appropriate, he said.

But McGuirk said he and Imus had engaged in the same locker-room humor for many years, and received pats on the back and raises from their superiors before CBS Radio fired them this time.

He sharply criticized the Rev. Al Sharpton, who led the campaign to get them fired.

"It seemed like he terrorized broadcast executives," he said. "It seemed like they were in a fetal position under their desks sucking their thumbs on their Blackberrys, trying to coordinate their response."

The concept of "crossing the line" is hard to understand when it's not clear where the line is, he said.

"It's a horrible thing for this country where people can't poke fun at each other and just joke around, have a good time, without fear of being hammered by the PC police or lose your livelihood over it," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20070...imus_producer_2
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Look how a normal reporter covers the spot compared to Ellen's rants and wild accusations. You flounders have been had yet again.
EB | 04.27.07 - 12:03 pm | #

I am an adult webmaster.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 11:59 am | #

Does that mean in other words, you're into porn?

Are you the one that's been spamming this site with your porn links?
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:03 pm | #

The reason I thought the $57,500 was paid to Imus:

"Mr. Imus says he prefers to oversee the ranch and kids himself, rather than hiring a manager to run it."- WSJ Article

http:// charitygovernance.blogs.c...ranch_the_.html

Sounds like giving his nephew a job trumped his claim he would rather run the ranch himself rather than hire a manager...
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 12:04 pm | #

"Does that mean in other words, you're into porn?

Are you the one that's been spamming this site with your porn links?

john t"

Yes, I produce porn.

No, I do not spam.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 12:04 pm | #

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 11:43 am | #
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It got even worse after I wrote that comment when the "Press Conference" at Camp David w/the Japanese PM began. Bush was acting VERY strange. He could barely string a sentence together. Like I said, **more than usual**. He only took 1 question and then the PM took one. After that, Bush babbled incomprehensibly and then abrubtly called an end to what was billed as a 'Press Conference'. His face was really red and blotchy and his eyes were small and beady. People that I've seen act like that, usually have massive hangovers. He was then referring to troops in the single tense like, 'the troop over there...'. I'm sure it will be up on video somewhere soon.

(White House Aides have conceded that Bush does this more than the public knows about - just starts babbling incomprehensibly and then abrubtly walks away)

BUSH'S INCREASING MENTAL LAPSES AND TEMPER TANTRUMS WORRY WHITE HOUSE AIDES

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/ a...icle_7606.shtml

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:05 pm | #

Whatsamattah, are we are the point where we can't post conservative cretin humor? Here "northwoods" have another. Don't worry, it's on me:

Question: Did you hear about the Helicopter crash?

Answer: The pilot was a Lush Limpballs-listenin' conservative cretin who got cold, so he turned off the fan.
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SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest

A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last...

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04...-fox-knowledge/
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:06 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am
You are joking with that link aren't you?
If not, you are a very sad pitiful person.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:01 pm | #
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No. I'm not joking. You ignorant Dolt.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:07 pm | #

conservative Republicans score the highest of all known political groups in the following categories: years of education, highest degree attained, vocabulary and analytical abilities."
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am

Kind of brings a tear to the eye knowing the standard bearer is George W. Bush. LMAO!!!!
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 12:09 pm | #

"Tawana Brawley, dang that is a reach. But since you brought up something that happened over 20 plus years ago, did those white cops who ripped apart Abner Louima, ever offer up an apology?"

Forget the cops, has the prince of all things good and light, Sean Hannity, ever apologized for calling Abner Louima a liar nearly daily on his radio show until it was found out that the cops Hannity was bending over backwards to defend were actually guilty?
idkmon | 04.27.07 - 12:09 pm | #

You ignorant Dolt.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:07 pm |

john t is dumb as a stump.
. | 04.27.07 - 12:10 pm | #

I am not from Annapolis MD. I don't know what lucky hits records are but no.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 11:59 am
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That's not a name you hear every day. If you're really not this guy in the Rip Off Report, is it someone you're oddly choosing to emulate?

- Rip Off Report:Annapolis Talent Agency - Lucky Hits Records ...

Annapolis Talent Agency - Lucky Hits Records - Richard Shaw - Wayne Sterago DECEIVED me, USED me, ROBBED me AND RAN

http://www.ripoffreport.com/ repo...ipoff144163.htm
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:10 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:07 pm

Ignorant?

I wouldn't go throwing that word around if I were you, after putting up a link like that as a source.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:10 pm | #

john t is dumb as a stump.
. | 04.27.07 - 12:10 pm | #
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Toppy returns at a dot again, I see.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:11 pm | #

So whattsamattah "northwoods"??? I reiterate. It's okay for some broadcaster to fucking B R O A D C A S T
"nappy-headed ho" niggah jokes, but you blow your fuckin' fuse after a couple "conservative idiot jokes" posted on a blog.

Come out, come out, where ever you are conservative cretin. I feel like toying with you, dullard.

Oly Oly Oxen free!
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:11 pm | #

Toppy returns at a dot again, I see.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:11 pm | #

A more apt description would be menstrual cycle.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 12:12 pm | #

john t and Toyomi Karita ought to be ashamed of themselves for making fun of the mentally handicapped.
Abby | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:13 pm | #

"Conservative Republicans score the highest of all known political groups in the following categories: years of education, highest degree attained, vocabulary and analytical abilities."
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am"

And as proof, the wit and wisdom of the conservatives’ chosen leader, George W. Bush –

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb.

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

"They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

"Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
ProfessorDuh | 04.27.07 - 12:14 pm | #

"That's not a name you hear every day. If you're really not this guy in the Rip Off Report, is it someone you're oddly choosing to emulate?

- Rip Off Report:Annapolis Talent Agency - Lucky Hits Records ...

Annapolis Talent Agency - Lucky Hits Records - Richard Shaw - Wayne Sterago DECEIVED me, USED me, ROBBED me AND RAN

http://www.ripoffreport.com/ repo...ipoff144163.htm
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Paige PbD"

If my name was george bush would you think I was the president of the united states? There are 6.7 billion people on this planet, I can't help it that there are others that share my name. You are such an odd person.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 12:14 pm | #

"Here’s the only problem, you pathetic, ignorant, poorly educated dolt: Conservative Republicans are better educated and smarter than Democrats, as a group, no matter how one dices the data. Based on the 1974-2002 General Social Surveys, the private database that sociologists depend on most as the foundation for their research, conservative Republicans score the highest of all known political groups in the following categories: years of education, highest degree attained, vocabulary and analytical abilities."

http://www.boulderweekly.com/ arc...waynesword.html
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am | #
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:15 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:11 pm

No, that's just tubby Mikey Thayer. The guy that lives in Iowa that his own hometown newspaper can't stand.

He used to run the pitiful SickofSpin site. He's a J$ wannabe. Just shows what a loser he is.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:16 pm | #

So whattsamattah "northwoods"??? I re-reiterate. It's okay for some broadcaster to fucking B R O A D C A S T
"nappy-headed ho" niggah jokes, but you blow your fuckin' fuse after a couple "conservative idiot jokes" posted on a blog.

Come out, come out, where ever you are conservative cretin. I do so feel like bitch-slapping you all over the board, you incredible dullard. One last try before I sign off. Oly Oly Oxen free!

Okay, I see you don't want to be bitch-slapped by me. Can't say I blame you. I'll make you look like such a dope you'll suffer psychological damage. You're too much a lightweight for me.

But you think about what I've posted, same goes for the rest of you racist asshole conservative cretins, and the lesson you learned today.

Oh, and thanks again for being the first to take the bait, Chump.
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:16 pm | #

I am an adult webmaster.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 11:59 am ---------------
Yes, I produce porn.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 12:04 pm
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Ok. Are we to believe it's just a coincidence that 'both' Wayne Sterago's are seemingly from the same mold? This Blog IS NOT for you to be dropping porn links on, Wayne.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:16 pm | #

EB | 04.27.07 - 12:03 pm

Why are you comparing a Yahoo news article with Ellen's reporting of Fox's coverage?

Ellen is not reporting on Imus, she is reporting on the Fox coverage of Imus.

Your point is meaningless.
Office Ed | 04.27.07 - 12:17 pm | #

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat politician and a leech?
A: A leech quits sucking your blood after you die.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a vampire?
A: vampire only sucks blood at night.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat on a Harley and a vacuum cleaner?
A: The vacuum has the dirt bag on the inside.

Q: What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead Democrat in the road?
A: Vultures will eat the skunk.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a prostitute?
A: The prostitute gives value for the money she takes.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a bucket of cow manure?
A: The bucket.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a trampoline?
You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a catfish?
A: One is an ugly, scum sucking bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a trampoline?
A: You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

Q: What happens when you cross a pig with a Democrat?
A: Nothing. There are some things a pig won't do.
. | 04.27.07 - 12:17 pm | #

Oh,please, don't let the concept of maturity be any hinderance to your posting here.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 12:18 pm | #

Keep in mind that 90% of inner city folk vote Democratic. They may be nice people, but they are not the most educated and knowledgable people on the planet, these core Democarats.

If these folks didn't vote for Democarats year after year, the Party would cease to exist.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:18 pm | #

Conservative Republicans score the highest of all known political groups in the following categories: years of education, highest degree attained, vocabulary and analytical abilities."
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am"
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LINK/SOURCE, please.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:18 pm | #

northwoods sounds pretty young and immature. His posts are often in the 'my dad can beat up your dad' kind of rationale.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:20 pm | #

"Ok. Are we to believe it's just a coincidence that 'both' Wayne Sterago's are seemingly from the same mold? This Blog IS NOT for you to be dropping porn links on, Wayne.
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Paige PbD"

Why would I post a porn link here? This isn't an adult webmaster forum or blog. Most of my sales come directly from my affiliates. I doubt there are too many adult webmasters here so I wouldn't benefit from linking here.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 12:20 pm | #

"Yet Republicans in the general public tend to be better educated than Democrats. In the 1994-2002 General Social Surveys (GSS), Republicans have over 6/10ths of a year more education on average than Democrats. Republicans also have a higher final mean educational degree. Further, Republicans scored better than Democrats on two word tests in the GSS--a short vocabulary test and a modified analogies test.

If one breaks down the data by party affiliation and political orientation, the most highly educated group is conservative Republicans, who also score highest on the vocabulary and analogical reasoning tests. Liberal Democrats score only insignificantly lower than conservative Republicans. The least educated subgroups are moderate and conservative Democrats, who also score at the bottom (or very near the bottom) on vocabulary and analogy tests.

The irony here is that if there were substantial numbers of Republican political scientists, psychologists, and sociologists at Duke and other elite schools, Professor Brandon might already know that in the United States, the two most similar groups in educational attainment and verbal proficiency are liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans--and that ordinary, non-liberal Democrats are among the least educated political groups."

http://www.instapundit.com/archi...ives/ 014093.php
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:22 pm | #

It amazes me still that no one has really busted the 'suits' at MSNBC & CBS for their complicity in this mess. Steve Capus in his announcement said he was a fan of Imus and listened to him on his way to work in the morning. They just RENEWED contracts for Imus, Bernard et al. And they are now acting as if they had no idea what was going on during the shows. Don't they have some responsibility to know what they are broadcasting every day? But then he claims as a listener that he DID know. The more outrageous comments that Imus has made were done long before the last contract renewal so obviously the bosses AND the advertisers had no objections to any of it (including the decade old 60 Minutes report - Mike Wallace has bee on Imus since then). So I agree with this part of what Bernard said . .he didn't get the memo . no one gave me them guidelines that they couldn't cross and as a frequent listener I don't know for sure that the Rutgers comment was the worst. I don't excuse it but every employee knows that you can't be fired for breaking a rule that didn't exist!
Linda | 04.27.07 - 12:22 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:22 pm | #
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Hahahahahaha.... still having a melt-down I see, quoting "instapundit".

I feel badly for you, actually. Look, log off, take a deep breath, have a couple of those Hamm's beers you have in the fridge, take a walk...

If you persist - fair warning, I'll take you...

"kiri, kiri, kiri...
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:26 pm | #

education, highest degree attained, vocabulary and analytical abilities."
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 11:56 am

Potentials are a necessary but not sufficient- It is the doing that we applaud! So far the Bush Admin has received only silence.

Potential never assures results or success.
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 12:27 pm | #

ok then | 04.27.07 - 12:28 pm |

Can not get kicked out of what you are not in!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 12:34 pm | #

Keep in mind that 90% of inner city folk vote Democratic. They may be nice people, but they are not the most educated and knowledgable people on the planet, these core Democarats.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:18 pm | #
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"inner city folk" ?

After reading many of your posts, YOU think you have room to criticize others about their education and knowledge ?

Let me EDUCATE you on something you misinformed little troll.

Cities such as Seattle, San Francisco, Washington D.C., Pittsburgh, NY City, Atlanta, Boston and others (where those "inner city folk" reside) are listed as the top 25 Smartest Cities in the U.S.

Each of these cities, in which MUCH money is made - which contributes a great deal to the U.S. Economy, are mostly ALL:

Culturally and Ethnically Diverse

and:

Highly Educated and Wealthy

You seem to be suggesting that 'where there are more black people', the dumber the area is'. What a vile person you are if that's what you are insinuating. I thought you were just a little simple minded but now I see you are cruel as well.

http://www.forbes.com/ entreprene...martcities.html

http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/29/...ities/ index.htm

(Is your name indicative of where you live? What city/region are you in? I remember you writing here last week that you live in the sticks, far from civilization)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:34 pm | #

DO NOT RESPOND TO THE TROLLS, I WILL BE PATROLLING AND DELETING ON SIGHT ANY COMMENTS FROM HIM/THE AND ANY RESPONSES.

TOYOMI, THIS MEANS YOU, TOO. I HAVE ASKED YOU MANY TIMES TO STOP RESPONDING AND STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. THIS IS MY FINAL WARNING TO YOU BEFORE BANNING YOU.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:36 pm | #

Well well well!! Let's see if the Imus effect takes hole with fucking Pill Boy!!

Rush's "Magic Negro" Routine
Adam Howard

Rush Limbaugh has obviously learned nothing from the outrage and anger unleashed by Don Imus' unfortunate "nappy headed ho's" remark. Never one to shy away from unfunny "humor", Limbaugh recently played a song parody on his radio show in which an Al Sharpton impersonator (played with stereotypical gusto) sings a song filled with idiotic assumptions about black people and dripping with ignorance called "Barack the Magic Negro".

Perhaps this kind of garbage (set to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon") is someone's cup of tea. Limbaugh does have millions of listeners and they do adore of much of what the man says. Whether he's lampooning former President Clinton's daughter or suggesting Michael J. Fox is exaggerating the effects of his Parkinson's disease. So I don't expect his listeners to desert him over this. What does surprise me is that Vice President Dick Cheney among other major conservatives is still a regular guest on Limbaugh's show and I don't anticipate the kind of repudiations that Don Imus received over his transgression from him or anyone else on the right with regards to Limbaugh.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/n...tion? pid=189860
edfromned | 04.27.07 - 12:36 pm | #

This isn't an adult webmaster forum or blog. Most of my sales come directly from my affiliates. I doubt there are too many adult webmasters here so I wouldn't benefit from linking here.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 12:20 pm | #
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How admirable that you cater to internet sexual predators such as Mark Foley and 3 top Homeland Security Officials. How proud you must be.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:38 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 12:22 pm

So far, you've excerpted your information from two blog entries. Where is the actual survey?
claudo | 04.27.07 - 12:38 pm | #

My last post crossed with yours, Ellen.
Toyomi Karita | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:38 pm | #

claudo: http://sda.berkeley.edu/archive.htm

You'll find that instapundit is, in a word, wrong.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 12:40 pm | #

edfromned | 04.27.07 - 12:36 pm

The Rush Michael Fox "routine" was a turning point in that it showed that there is a backlash against right wing crudity. We have Rush to "thank" for the election of Claire McGaskill and the success of the stem cell initiative. I suspect that Fox has maxed out its influence too - judging from the results of the last election. But it sure keeps on trying!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 12:43 pm | #

Has Hannity interviewed any black women about the Imus thing? Nope - just Ann Coulter and she hardly qualifies as a black and as a woman - well, the jury is still out on that one!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 12:44 pm | #

NORTHWOODS,
IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO LEAVE... AND NOT COME BACK.

IF YOU REFUSE TO DO SO, IT IS PROOF THAT YOU ARE ONLY HERE TO HARASS AND DISRUPT AND SHOULD BE IGNORED ALWAYS.

EVERY COMMENT FROM YOU AND ANY OF YOUR SOCK PUPPETS WILL BE DELETED UPON SIGHT.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:47 pm | #

Dang, northwoods got canned..
Muddog | 04.27.07 - 12:42 pm | #
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I sure hope so.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:48 pm | #

“How admirable that you cater to internet sexual predators such as Mark Foley and 3 top Homeland Security Officials. How proud you must be.

Paige PbD”

There is nothing wrong with pornography. I cannot help it that a few misuse it anymore than the alcohol makers can prevent drunk driving. As for pride, yes, I do pride myself in my work, I take quite beautiful pictures most of the time. The women I shoot are quite lovely for the most part though I have done some bad sets unfortunately usually outside sets turn out horrible, I have not yet mastered taking pictures outside of controlled environments. The sun is my enemy at the moment.
Wayne Sterago | 04.27.07 - 12:49 pm | #

Fox News (puke) sinks to a new low. Anything that makes fun of people who do not look exactly like us is good news at Fox News - and if they can throw in some Islamophobia with it, why, that good news made in Heaven!
Abby | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:49 pm | #

ignore him toyomi ! ! Ellen has already asked you to do so )

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:49 pm | #

Why is anyone amazed or upset that someone who knowingly "insults everybody" is taken off the air? Who would fight for such a person? Sure, he has a right to insult everybody if he wants. But if he does, he eventually has to face the mob of people he's insulted, as they certainly have a right to call him out on his comments.
Gooch X
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My thoughts, exactly. Hannity and Colmes keep whining about free speech but why should the likes of McGuirk and Imus have the right to go on the air and sling slurs? I couldn't do it, why should they... just because they are "entertaining?" Obviously, the audience has changed its mind. It's time for the overpaid "talent" to grow up and face the marketplace, just like they would be yelling about if I were to go on the air and tell their kind of "jokes."
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:50 pm | #

I don't know claudo this whole Imus thing really pisses me off. Fired over "Nappy headed ho's"????

Crude? Yes!
Racist? Yes!

As bad as the things these rightwing nutjobs spew each and everyday? HELL NO and yet Imus is the only one fired!!

I would REALLY like to know the whole story surrounding that decision and you know that will never happen.

Hell Anntheman Coulter should of been out of business for the shit she throws around and yet----????
edfromned | 04.27.07 - 12:50 pm | #

There are some things that should just not air, that is something we can likely all agree on.

For the most part, I think one should always exercise a bit of caution when listening to programs or watching TV shows which you know may say or do something offensive.

If you know you might be offended, then don't watch or listen.

If you know you might be offended but watch or listen anyway, don't complain about it.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 12:53 pm | #

ed,
I agree. However, I do think Coulter is on her way down as well. She's denying it and it won't be so dramatic but I'll bet she's not invited to speak at "A list" events anytime soon.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:53 pm | #

If the republicans are trying to woe the black vote - uh - isn't smearing black people not the way to go with this?????

But the tide, I think, is turning. Many republicans were critical of Coulter's use of the "F" word and as a result of "the market," her columns were dropped from 9 newspapers.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 12:53 pm | #

edfromned | 04.27.07 - 12:50 pm | #
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Hi Ed. I've noticed the same thing. It's as though Fox News and people like Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, Coulter and those like them are flaunting how they work for people who don't give a damn about racism & bigotry being broadcast on the air. They probably are pleased that they have 1 less racist on the air with which to compete. They want all the bigoted and racist listeners/viewers for themselves. Especially Sean Hannity. He is the Chief void filler for those types. Glenn Beck and the others follow closely behind.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:55 pm | #

[QUOTE - Ellen]
I agree. However, I do think Coulter is on her way down as well. She's
denying it and it won't be so dramatic but I'll bet she's not invited
to speak at "A list" events anytime soon.
[END QUOTE]

Don't be too quick to pass judgement. She'll be invited, but it all depends on what the "A" stands for in that particular case.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 12:55 pm | #

Other than on FOX News, has Coulter been invited as a pundit on any serious news programs since her CPAC bomb?
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:55 pm | #

Free speech is not an absolute, a lot of us in the workplace have to sign an employee agreement and have to agree with a code of conduct which, in effect, prevents us from saying certain things that would otherwise be protected by the First Amendment. I'm pretty sure the contract Imus signed had some sort of code of conduct.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 12:56 pm | #

Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:55 pm

Not that I know of. And she has disappeared from MSNBC since her appearance, last summer, on Hardball where she (dressed in black, looking like Vampyra) said that Bill Clinton and Al Gore were gay.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 12:59 pm | #

This might be cynical, Frank, but his code of conduct probably suggested he say anything he wants for ratings, so long as it doesn't cause the loss of sponsors.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 12:59 pm | #

FrankC,
I made that same point in a recent post. I work in a public place that promotes free speech and free thought BUT I would be fired on the spot for making those kinds of jokes and many other things.

Imus now has the same free speech rights that the rest of us have. Poor baby!

He's not the first person to be fired because the boss suddenly changed the rules.

I'm sorry, I have NO sympathy for him or the McGuirk whiner and, as far as I'm concerned, Hannity and Colmes never looked more elitist than when they act as though Imus' firing is a blow to free speech.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:00 pm | #

edfromned | 04.27.07 - 12:50 pm

Some of the story behind it is GE owns CBS. I have a brother-in-law and a nephew that both work for GE. They said that GE has a strict policy about anybody talking bad about anybody in the workplace would be fired on the spot.

I guess after this story broke GE was overcome by employees wanting to know why Imus could do this and no one else.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:01 pm | #

I don't want to take away Imus' right to say what he wants. But at the same time I cannot absolve him of his responsibility for the things he says.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 1:02 pm | #

Many republicans were critical of Coulter's use of the "F" word and as a result of "the market," her columns were dropped from 9 newspapers.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 12:53 pm | #
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Remember, not too long ago, RedState.org came down harshly on Ann Coulter. It had more to do with her vile attacks of the spouses/family members of 9/11 victims than it did about race. Unfortunately, Redstate is not known for drawing the line with racism and bigotry (surprise!) nor do they request that others on the right raise their standards. But it was interesting to see a leading GOP blog like that condemn someone who most on the right consider to be a 'hero' or a 'goddess'... ick. I just don't see it. She reminds me of Simon Bar Sinister.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:03 pm | #

McGuirk was right about the networks' about face. I think they have some 'splaining to do about why they allowed (promoted, even) that kind of talk for so long and never objected until it became a scandal.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:03 pm | #

Gooch,
Nobody took away Imus' right to say anything, they just took it away on the airwaves... for now.

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't wind up on FOX News radio in the near future.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:05 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:03 pm

She reminds me of Edgar Winter in drag.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:05 pm | #

Some of the story behind it is GE owns CBS.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:01 pm | #
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Correcting your typo, GE owns NBC.

;o)
Michelle | 04.27.07 - 1:07 pm | #

as far as I'm concerned, Hannity and Colmes never looked more elitist than when they act as though Imus' firing is a blow to free speech.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:00 pm | #
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Ellen..Do you get the impression that Hannity is almost being smug about it... like he knows damn well his bosses (Ailes/Murdoch) will likely never raise their standards when it comes to ridding the NewsCorp airwaves of racism and bigotry? That's just the impression I get when I watch him. He always seems so tickled with himself when he knows that what he is doing (including being an overt racist/bigot) is being reinforced by his boss, viewers and advertisers. It makes me sick. He doesn't seem to have an ounce of shame (or integrity, for that matter). I can't think of too many at Fox News who do though.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:09 pm | #

Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:03 pm

I suspect that in the past, there wasn't the clamor that there was about the most recent comment because the internet was not as widely used as it is now. Thanks to Media Matters, which broke the story, the report then made it to mainstream media where it was discussed at length and the rest is history. In the past, those who were insulted didn't have the forum that they have now. I just wish that there would be as much outrage over the other radio hate mongers who have had a free pass for far too long.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:10 pm | #

-Ellen | 04.27.07 - 1:05 pm |
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Yep, I'm sure he'll be back on his feet in no time, whether I like it or not. And if he can't get another television or radio gig, he can always write a book. That seems to be the popular route for those who've disgraced themselves.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 1:10 pm | #

She reminds me of Edgar Winter in drag.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:05 pm | #
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ha! That prompted a big out loud chortle from me! Pefect comparison.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:11 pm | #

Michelle | 04.27.07 - 1:07 pm

They own both NBC and CBS.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:11 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:09 pm

It's "all about the benjamins." He "has no shame."
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:11 pm | #

Imus' wife is very "green" and that is something that the right wing is not too thrilled about. And that's why I don't think you'll see him on Fox.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:12 pm | #

john t,
CBS is owned by Viacom, not GE.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:13 pm | #

Other than on FOX News, has Coulter been invited as a pundit on any serious news programs since her CPAC bomb?
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:55 pm | #
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Googled her name and it looks like shes doing a speaking engagement at the Livingston Economic club...not without some local protest however.
Muddog | 04.27.07 - 1:13 pm | #

I think Imus' wife is another piece of work, what with her pie in the sky notions about that ranch.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:14 pm | #

No John, I believe CBS is owned by Viacom.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 1:14 pm | #

CBS is not owned by either Viacom or GE.

It is owned by National Amusements. They also own Viacom.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 1:15 pm | #

Muddog,
What is the Livingston Economic Club? It doesn't sound A list to me.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:15 pm | #

Other than on FOX News, has Coulter been invited as a pundit on any serious news programs since her CPAC bomb?
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:55 pm | #

Yesterday on Gibson's show they had
a poll to see who should replace Rosie.
The choice's were Katie Couric, Michele
Malkin, Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham,
and Coulter won.Typical of Fox viewers.
Even Coulter agreed she has a snowballs
chance in hell.
JT | 04.27.07 - 1:16 pm | #

Paige,
Yes, Hannity is smug and I agree he does a lot of things just to be spiteful.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:16 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:55 pm

Excellent analysis!

Until Blacks can provide consequences for the networks via sponsors, or the FCC, the racism and bigotry will continue.
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 1:16 pm | #

Ah semantics, if you were to draw a flow chart, National Amusements would be the box on top, Viacom would be the box in the middle and CBS would be the box on the bottom.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 1:16 pm | #

By the way, something I forgot to mention in my post, Hannity played a tape from his Sharpton debate in which he said that he doesn't like Imus. I give him credit for that.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:17 pm | #

FrankC | 04.27.07 - 1:14 pm

Yeah, I finally figured it out. I don't know what I was thinking. I guess I was stuck back in the 90's.
john t | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:17 pm | #

Just googled Livingston and it is a group that is sponsered by Cleary University in Michigan. It also has noted paranoid, Steve Emerson, listed as an upcoming speaker.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:18 pm | #

No idea Ellen, I just googled her name and that came up, it looks like they book speakers at their luncheon for a fee and are located in Michigan. Thats all I found.
Muddog | 04.27.07 - 1:19 pm | #

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't wind up on FOX News radio in the near future.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:05 pm | #
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If that happens, I'm going to watch closely to see if his prior Advertisers return. The same ones who pulled their ads - declaring a 'moral obligation' to do so after making the comment that led to his firing. (AmEx, GM, Proctor & Gamble, Staples Inc., Glaxo-Smith-Kline and others). Of course, they all advertise on other racist-laced shows elsewhere so it won't shock me if they decide to re-invest in his (likely) new Fox News radio show.

The moral compasses of many of these Corporations are often askew or non-existent when it involves making money from ratings. They don't really have a policy when it comes to their standards. They continue to act as though they don't know gambling is going on in the casino.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:20 pm | #

Well, no.

After a restructer in '04, CBS is directly under NA as is Viacom.

Still. It's not really relevant to the topic at hand :)

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 1:21 pm | #

And as far as people with a less than stellar past, the new Fox fave, Tom Delay ain't no saint. Neither is Hannity fave, Dick Morris. And wait a minute - what about Hannity's comment about the lesbian and the turkey baster!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:21 pm | #

And speaking of Hannity's past - when he was employed as a radio talk show host, didn't he let white supremacist Hal Turner have lots of air time?
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:23 pm | #

Aren't those defending Imus' right to free speech the same who vilified those critical of Bush and suggested they should shut up?

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 1:25 pm | #

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 1:25 pm

Good point. They consider dissent to be treasonous. Many of those defending Imus were the same type of people who forced NPR to cancel an episode of Oscar the Bunny because, during his trip around the country, he visited a lesbian couple in Vermont!!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:27 pm | #

And they don't like Sponge Bob either.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:28 pm | #

Canadian Paul,
That was the post I made the previous night. Although Hannity made a big point last night of saying he defends Rosie's right to free speech and that he didn't think he should be fired, the hypocrisy can't be hidden.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:32 pm | #

And they don't like Sponge Bob either.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:28 pm | #
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Who were the ones that went after Spongebob Squarepants because they said he and his buddy Patrick were gay? I swear when I heard that I also fell off my chair.
Muddog | 04.27.07 - 1:32 pm | #

I meant almost fell off my chair.
Muddog | 04.27.07 - 1:33 pm | #

Hannity could have asked McGuirk why so many MSNBC employees were very happy to see Imus go. Seems that they were uncomfortable in that kind of work environment. And anyone who has had a training session on harassment in the workplace knows that racist and sexist remarks are a form of harassment. A woman in Massachusetts, who is a lesbian, recently won a million dollar award from the town where she worked as a result of years of homophobic comments and behavior on the part of her fellow employees. Management dropped the ball and they ended up paying. But it was clear that MSNBC workers did not like Imus.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:36 pm | #

Muddog | 04.27.07 - 1:32 pm |

Remember the Tellytubbies!
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 1:36 pm | #

Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:32 pm

Hypocrisy and racism.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:36 pm | #

Was it Fawell that claimed one of the teletubies was gay?
larp | 04.27.07 - 1:37 pm | #

Claudo,
Definitely racism. I don't advocate trying to get people taken off the air but I'm surprised and somewhat dismayed that Sharpton et al have never complained about Hannity's and FOX News' bigotry.

They would not likely be so overt as to use the "n word" or use really coarse language but their subtle bias is more insidious and, imho, much worse.

I have heard, by the way, that Hannity was very offended by the Fox attacks video calling him out on his racism. Poor widdle bullyboy!
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:41 pm | #

Oh man

google "spongebob squarepants gay" and see the right wing at its very best.
Muddog | 04.27.07 - 1:41 pm | #

Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 1:41 pm

I, too, am surprised that Sharpton isn't more critical of Fox's racism. But Al is a savy showman (unlike Hannity, who is a showman but not too savy) who might be thinking that a mellow demeanor serves him better than being strident - which would further reinforce the "image" that Fox is doing its best to communicate. Compared to conservative African Americans like Angela McGlowan and Jesse Lee Peterson, Sharpton seems very mainstream!!!!
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:50 pm | #

Kudos to Ellen for troll patrol.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:54 pm | #

I know this isn't a Fox&Friends thread; but you have to check this out because it is soooo Fox:

"Fox News Sinks To New Low, Repeatedly Reports Parody Story As Actual News
On Tuesday, Fox News morning show “Fox & Friends” aired at least eight segments on a purported “news” story that was actually a parody article written by a publication similar to The Onion..."

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04.../27/fox-parody/
claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:57 pm | #

A little tidbit I found...

As reported by New York Times columnist Bob Herbert, in the course of a 1998 interview with Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes, Imus admitted telling a producer off-camera that McGuirk was hired to perform "nigger jokes."

ttp://select.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/opinion/ 12herbert.html&OQ=_rQ3D1Q26hp&OP=3ad1fbc4Q2FI- Q3EXIJFQ7B66JIQ27nnYInQ23IQ24Q27I6Q3FxEx6EIQ24Q273 Q3EQ7BXQ3EQ7BJt3JQ7C_
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 1:58 pm | #

For anyone who didn't hear McGurk's contribution to the Imus Show that lead to his firing...

IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and --
McGUIRK: Some hard-core hos.

IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like -- kinda like -- I don't know.

McGUIRK: A Spike Lee thing.

IMUS: Yeah.

McGUIRK: The Jigaboos vs. the Wannabes -- that movie that he had.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 2:02 pm | #

Restrictions on the use of the “N” word have been lifted. Effective immediately usage is encouraged for a minimal fee:

1-5 time usage---$100,000 ea

Yearly Discount Rate
5 or greater -------$1,000,000 per year

Make Checks: Payable to injured party (non white) or me

(Compliance enforced by the FCC)
frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 2:05 pm | #

And re the lack of "fact checking" on the part of Fox - which caused subsequent hate mail -

Will Fox issue an apology - which is what they're always demanding of (non conservative) others.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 2:08 pm | #

frijolesNegra | 04.27.07 - 2:05 pm | #

Sure glad I posted the Imus reference before you imposed this new plan! ;-)
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 2:09 pm | #

The only thing Fox is sorry for is that they can't stir even more hatred.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 2:13 pm | #

Next week, Stephanie Miller will be doing the old Imus slot on MSNBC (Monday through Wednesday)
claudo | 04.27.07 - 2:27 pm | #

"Sean Hannity’s sensitivity for Rosie O’Donnell’s audience’s feelings – so Hanctimoniously displayed the night before – had disappeared for Imus’ audience."

Funny that FOX's pundits seem to loathe Rosie for saying bad things but support Imus for saying bad things.

"Fair & Balanced"
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Robrob | 04.27.07 - 2:33 pm | #

claudo | 04.27.07 - 2:27 pm

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I heard her say she was going to wear a Rutger's womens's b-ball jersey.
DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 2:54 pm | #

claudo | 04.27.07 - 1:57 pm

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sorry to reply O/T, but has FNC issued a redaction or apology?

What a bunch of idiots!!
DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 2:59 pm | #

Ellen I know I'm going off topic here but I hope you let me post this anyway. But I would like to thank many of regulars here like Claudo, Canadian Paul, Muddog, Paige PbD, and many more who come here. All of you have been blessed with the talent to entertain and teach at the same time. I don't do very well in putting my thoughts on paper, but boy are you people good. I'm at work when I read these post, so I'm in and out a lot, but anyway everyone thanks and have a good weekend
jim thorp | 04.27.07 - 3:08 pm | #

Thanks - and you express yourself quite well. Enjoy the week-end.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 3:23 pm | #

DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 2:59 pm

Not yet. And I don't think that they will. But it will make a great talking point to rebut Fox's constant demands for apologies from Sharpton, Rosie, etc.
claudo | 04.27.07 - 3:25 pm | #

You people and your spin.

WHAT Imus said was not supported. His FREEDOM to say it however, was supported.

Imus was stupid, and for that he can and should be criticized. But don't confuse supportive arguments for freedom of speech with condoning Imus's comments.
Liberally Speaking | 04.27.07 - 3:27 pm | #

Ellen I know I'm going off topic here but I hope you let me post this anyway. But I would like to thank many of regulars here like Claudo, Canadian Paul, Muddog, Paige PbD, and many more who come here. All of you have been blessed with the talent to entertain and teach at the same time.

jim thorp | 04.27.07 - 3:08 pm | #
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Wow, that's nice. Thank you.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:32 pm | #

Hi everyone!
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 3:32 pm | #

Hi everyone!
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 3:32 pm | #
Fuck off
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:32 pm | #

don't confuse supportive arguments for freedom of speech with condoning Imus's comments.
Liberally Speaking | 04.27.07 - 3:27 pm | #
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Cheers to that.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:33 pm | #

All of you have been blessed with the talent to entertain and teach at the same time.

jim thorp | 04.27.07 - 3:08 pm | #

Thank you, but there's no way I'm stripping.
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 3:33 pm | #

Doesn't anyone think that political correctness has gone too far?

We need to get over ourselves. I'm not one for overly offensive humor (Imus was wrong, Rosie has crossed the line on occasion).

But what's next? Am I supposed to start suing everyone for telling blonde jokes around me?
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 3:35 pm | #

barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 3:35 pm | #
Ellen if you are going to ban people please ban the trash.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:43 pm | #

Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:43 pm | #
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What do you think of blogs that require a log in to post? It seems like it makes it easier for everyone all around. More quality discussions without troll droppings every 3rd post and less work for the moderators to clean up.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:48 pm | #

McGuirk said twice that he didn't know that Ho = the N word, and yet it went unchallenged, as if this was reality or even a reasonable EXCUSE.

First off, Imus called the women "nappy headed hos" and "nappy-headed" is hardly an insult used to describe white women. Secondly, McGuirk then went on to call them "jigaboos". Was he also unaware that jigaboo = the N word?

While some like Hannity may have heard a sincere apology, all I heard were excuses: I didn't know the rules. I didn't realize that these words were racist. It was Sharpton's fault for making it a big deal---Shapton's the real racist. The Management were a bunch of wusses. The media went into a frenzy...

Even McGuirk is wise enough to know that a sincere apology doesn't end with a BUT.
jaymayandjoseph | 04.27.07 - 3:49 pm | #

Paige it wouldn't bother me. I just saw on off topic that another regular got banned and yet I can count on Barbarella's unwanted preening here everyday.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:51 pm | #

It really sucks that being white and male does not have the privileges it once did.
Troll Logic | 04.27.07 - 3:53 pm | #

Imus was stupid, and for that he can and should be criticized. But don't confuse supportive arguments for freedom of speech with condoning Imus's comments.
Liberally Speaking | 04.27.07 - 3:27 pm | #

Freedom of speech has to do with government control, it has nothing to do with being able to say anything you want, whenever and wherever you want. It also does not impede an employer's freedom to can an employee who it finds offensive, a sponsor's freedom to choose where they advertise, or the public's freedom to be offended.
jaymayandjoseph | 04.27.07 - 3:56 pm | #

what's next? Am I supposed to start suing everyone for telling blonde jokes around me?
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 3:35 pm | #
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Are you equating jokes about blonde hair with cruel racism and bigotry? Were you prevented from voting because you have blonde hair? Were you ever close to being lynched because you have blonde hair? Were your descendants purchased as slaves because they had blonde hair? Were you told to drink out of a separate drinking fountain? Were you told to sit in the back of the bus? Do you see groups like the Aryan Nation/KKK holding white sheet rallies against you because you have blonde hair?

NO. I didn't think so.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #

You guys don't get it. Don Rickles made a career out of insulting people and so did Imus. To be insulted by Imus or Rickles was high praise for crying out loud. It meant you were someone. Don Rickles once insulted Bob Costas. Costas absolutely loved it. Imus would insult Costas, his agent and too many people to count. I used to listen Imus a lot and none of this stuff was ever intended to injure or hurt people. McGuirk used to get into insult wars with black comics on the show. It was comedy. You all need to get a spine.
Tom | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #

You mean my boss firing me for calling him a F^&k SOB was not a violation of my freedom of speech?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:00 pm | #

Tom | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #

Don Rickles? Two questions. Did he call anybody a nappy headed ho? Isn't he dead?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:01 pm | #

Are you equating jokes about blonde hair with cruel racism and bigotry? Were you prevented from voting because you have blonde hair? Were you ever close to being lynched because you have blonde hair? Were your descendants purchased as slaves because they had blonde hair? Were you told to drink out of a separate drinking fountain? Were you told to sit in the back of the bus? Do you see groups like the Aryan Nation/KKK holding white sheet rallies against you because you have blonde hair?

NO. I didn't think so.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #
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Nice try.

If a blond were foolish enough to go for a walk after dark in many minority neighborhoods, he/she would be assaulted because of the color of his/her skin. That's a fact and you know it.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:03 pm | #

Imus' former producer, the also-fired Bernard McGuirk, the one who started the ill-fated "nappy ho" discussion with Imus, ...

MTL: And the one who should have been fired years ago. It was McGuirk, not Imus, that was my primary reason for turning off the Imus show.

Other than the question of just how big a villain is Al Sharpton, the only concerns behind Imus' firing seemed to be the loss of racially offensive jokes on the airwaves.

MTL: Gee; why am I not surprised?

McGuirk didn't wait long before he started attacking Al Sharpton with some more of his brand of "humor." After acknowledging that the initial anger over the Rutgers incident was legitimate, he complained that Sharpton used it to further his own career "or because maybe Barack Obama's getting too much press or something."

McGuirk later said that if anyone spoke about his daughter as a ho, he would "kick their teeth in, you know, if I saw it, you know, happen in real time."

MTL: So, it's okay for McGuirk to call someone a ho, but not for someone else to call his daughter a ho? There's a real man for you!

McGuirk continued by saying Sharpton is the kind of guy "who would park in a handicapped spot or ...bring a wheelchair to an amusement park so he could jump the lines."

MTL: Unlike Bill Parcells. Oh, wait....

At the end of the interview, Colmes asked, "What do you want to see happen? What is your hope?"

McGuirk replied, "I hope that AL Sharpton's blow dryer falls in the uh,... no."

MTL: Yeah. Bernard McGuirk, you're the slug of the week.

MTL
MikeTheLiberal | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:03 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:03 pm | #

Another moron gets to post while another regular gets banned. Oh well. When this board is nothing but Northwoods and Barbie it will be good for troll quotes.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:04 pm | #

Another moron gets to post while another regular gets banned. Oh well. When this board is nothing but Northwoods and Barbie it will be good for troll quotes.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:04 pm |
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you just call names. What about black on white bigotry and violence? Or is that subject not PC?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:07 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:07 pm | #

I repeat...

Another moron gets to post while another regular gets banned. Oh well. When this board is nothing but Northwoods and Barbie it will be good for troll quotes.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:07 pm | #

Paige,

I stated on my post that Imus was wrong, so why all the anger?

By the way, is it wrong -- in your opinion -- for someone like Chris Rock to use that term?
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 4:08 pm | #

If Chris Rock said it over the same airwaves as did Imus, then the reaction should be likewise.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 4:11 pm | #

Tom | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #

Are you comparing a Friar's roast to what Imus said? Get real
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 4:12 pm | #

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 4:11 pm | #

You mean Chris Rock didn't have a radio show on MSNBC?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:12 pm | #

Come on Barbarella cry about affirmative action keeping white guys out of the NBA.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:14 pm | #

Come on Barbarella cry about affirmative action keeping white guys out of the NBA.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:14 pm | #
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Count, what about black on white violence? Why is that subject taboo?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:15 pm | #

You guys don't get it. Don Rickles made a career out of insulting people and so did Imus. To be insulted by Imus or Rickles was high praise for crying out loud.

Tom | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #
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I see. That's the baseline. If someone is "MAKING A CAREER" out of being a racist/bigot, then people aren't legitimately allowed to find racist or bigoted comments very hurtful or hateful. If someone has a career, then their racist remarks should be considered entertainment.

Who chose you as the Spokesman for other ethnicities? Who chose you to determine for them what it considered offensive and what is considered "high praise" ??

Why don't trolls like this quit beating around the bush and say what they're really thinking, which is probably something close to this...

'I am a racist and I am mad because more people won't join me. When threads like this come up, I get fulfillment out of letting people know I am proud to be a racist, in not so subtle ways.'

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:17 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:15 pm | #

Another moron gets to post while another regular gets banned. Oh well. When this board is nothing but Northwoods and Barbie it will be good for troll quotes.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:17 pm | #

Another moron gets to post while another regular gets banned. Oh well. When this board is nothing but Northwoods and Barbie it will be good for troll quotes.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:17 pm | #
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you still failed to address my question.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:18 pm | #

I see northwoods is back, trying to make more points by offering up hypothetical and non existent events as proof of their claims. How typical.
Secular Progressive | 04.27.07 - 4:18 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:17 pm | #

100% correct. Look at the clown above your post for exhibit A.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:18 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:18 pm | #

Another moron gets to post while another regular gets banned. Oh well. When this board is nothing but Northwoods and Barbie it will be good for troll quotes.

Oh and...
http://www.goarmy.com/flindex.jsp
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:19 pm | #

offering up hypothetical and non existent events as proof of their claims.

Those are his only hope in life.

if it wasn't for Hypothetical and non- existent Dates and Sex he would be have anything.

Plus he Hypothetically supports the troops though his actual service is non-existent.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:21 pm | #

It was comedy. You all need to get a spine.
Tom | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #
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Tom, maybe you could leave your contact info behind so blacks, Asians, Muslims, Mexicans can call you up to run by what racist or bigoted comment hurt them. You can then act as their judge as to whether or not they have permission to be offended.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:22 pm | #

Why is that subject taboo?
northwoods
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Who said it was? No one thats who.
O, I forgot, you make stuff up and try to build arguments around things that have not even happened (outside of your own head.) So it really is not much of a leap for you to claim(lie) that someone said such topics are taboo.
7 | 04.27.07 - 4:22 pm | #

Northwoods,

Hi Buddy. Please realize that liberals do not care about black-on-white violence/bigotry.

Remember, racism is taboo unless the intended target is a white male.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 4:22 pm | #

You guys, remember what Ellen wrote above:

NORTHWOODS,
IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO LEAVE... AND NOT COME BACK.

IF YOU REFUSE TO DO SO, IT IS PROOF THAT YOU ARE ONLY HERE TO HARASS AND DISRUPT AND SHOULD BE IGNORED ALWAYS.

EVERY COMMENT FROM YOU AND ANY OF YOUR SOCK PUPPETS WILL BE DELETED UPON SIGHT.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:47 pm | #

and:

DO NOT RESPOND TO THE TROLLS, I WILL BE PATROLLING AND DELETING ON SIGHT ANY COMMENTS FROM HIM/THE AND ANY RESPONSES.

TOYOMI, THIS MEANS YOU, TOO. I HAVE ASKED YOU MANY TIMES TO STOP RESPONDING AND STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. THIS IS MY FINAL WARNING TO YOU BEFORE BANNING YOU.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 12:36 pm | #

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:24 pm | #

Please realize that liberals do not care about black-on-white violence/bigotry.

barbie66

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Ahhh another one that just makes shit up

For real if you didnt have lies, what would you have?

Please proved proof that liberals do not care about black-on-white violence/bigotry.

We are waiting
7 | 04.27.07 - 4:24 pm | #

paige, et al

the other thing the racist trolls who ALWAYS post on these imus threads fail to recognize is that the imus incident was not just racist...but 3 fold

1. racist
2. sexist
and
3. slander.....the rutgers team were EXACTLY the best, student athletes, not hos, eh?

think on that trollboys
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:24 pm | #

Violence by one man against another is despicable, why do these wingnut assholes have to attach a color to it?
FrankC | 04.27.07 - 4:25 pm | #

Tom, maybe you could leave your contact info behind so blacks, Asians, Muslims, Mexicans can call you up to run by what racist or bigoted comment hurt them. You can then act as their judge as to whether or not they have permission to be offended.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:22 pm | #
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Is "honkie" a racist term? That's waht I was called when I was jumped and beaten by a gang of blacks on the ramp at White SOx Park -- because of the color of my skin.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:26 pm | #

7

Because no one addressed that question above on the thread.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 4:27 pm | #

EJ-TX | 04.27.07 - 4:50 am

It's ironic to me these media hacks fussing about Sharpton or Jesse Jackson when a race related issue pops up.

Jesse and Al don't go to the media with issues anymore, the media goes to them. FOX, CNN, MSNBC all invite them on air as guests to comment on issues involving the black community.
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BINGO! The media (all of them) shouldn't bother.

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Richard Palmer | 04.27.07 - 5:05 am

Our "American" sense of humor depends almost entirely on making fun of someone. To use fag, nigger, wop, greaser and a whole string of hate words does not bother Hannity. He regrets that they are no longer permissible. How can anyone be funny anymore if it is not at the expense of the "downtrodden".
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As pointed out in the OT forums, it's not funny to go after the underdog.

MTL
MikeTheLiberal | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:27 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:24 pm | #

yep. And northwoods is still here and a regular got banned. Makes a lot of sense. This board will be first rate when it's nothing but Barbarella and Northwoods Cybering on every thread.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:27 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:26 pm | #

Boo Hoo Hoo
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:28 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:26 pm | #

I see literacy isn't your strong suit.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:29 pm | #

barbie66

That's your proof? Youre kidding right?
Thats the best you can do?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

So because people are not addressing a certain off topic topic thats the proof?
Hey I would say that liberals also believe that aliens crashed in Roswell because no one said contrary in the thread

Man o man you really are horrible at this.

Suffice it to say that barbie66 simply makes stuff up and has no facts or proof to back up their wild claims.
And you proved it all by yourself

HAHAHAHAHA
7 | 04.27.07 - 4:30 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:26 pm | #

Boo Hoo Hoo
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:28 pm | #
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It turned out okay. My cousin caught one of them later and he knifed him. We were 17.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:31 pm | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:24 pm | #
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That's very true.

You guys, by 'Northwood' choosing to return, he is confirming what Ellen said about *him:

NORTHWOODS,
IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO LEAVE... AND NOT COME BACK.

*IF YOU REFUSE TO DO SO, IT IS PROOF THAT YOU ARE ONLY HERE TO HARASS AND DISRUPT AND SHOULD BE IGNORED ALWAYS.

Since he is obviously here to harrass and disrupt, we should do as she requested: Ignore Norhwoods.

(I'm not even bothering to read the text of his comments. He's fishing for attention that I'm not going to give him. Please join me in that attention deprivation!)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:32 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:26 pm | #

I see literacy isn't your strong suit.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:29 pm
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So, don't you think it's wrong to call someone "honkie" and beat them up?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:33 pm | #

7

Off topic? Are you high? This thread is about McGuirk.

I do not condone any type of racism. But why does it seem that there is no outrage when whites are the target?
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 4:33 pm | #

What forms of racism is ok, and which forms are not.

That seems to be the question.

Answer. Society doesn't need a place for racism of any kind, does it?

We shouldn't be accepting any forms of racism.

Ultimately, we should be moving towards a place wherein there is no racism, where everyone is equal regardless of their race, sex, sexual orientation...etc.

We are not there yet, are we? This is still quite a bit of disparity within society as a whole, and if you google yourself some statistics you'd see that.

If you're not white, you are still treated different.

Canadian Paul | 04.27.07 - 4:34 pm | #

Makes a lot of sense. This board will be first rate when it's nothing but Barbarella and Northwoods Cybering on every thread.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:27 pm | #
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There must be a reason they don't want to do a log on, I guess. I agree that the threads would contain so much more quality discussions sans constant troll droppings/self-esteem seekers.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:36 pm | #

Tom | 04.27.07 - 3:59 pm | #
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Ahh...so you're one of the few people who actually thought Don Rickles was funny.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 4:37 pm | #

barbie66
This thread is about black on white violence? Really huh?
the first appearance of the word 'violence' on this thread was from northwoods, making the crazy claim that you are also buying into. A claim I am questioning and you seem to refuse to proved proof for. No Im not high, I just know how to use the Ctrl F function.

According to barbie66 because none of here are griping about the high cost of dental care, we must all be in favor of high dentist bills
7 | 04.27.07 - 4:39 pm | #

please do not use wikipedia as a source.
thanks
brandonr | 04.27.07 - 4:39 pm | #

Paul

I agree with you. However, I do feel that political correctness has gone way over the edge.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 4:39 pm | #

There must be a reason they don't want to do a log on, I guess. I agree that the threads would contain so much more quality discussions sans constant troll droppings/self-esteem seekers.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:36 pm |
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Paige, I know it makes you uncomfortable, but black on white crime is a serious issue.

Can I take my family into an african-American Neighborhood in Chicago and eat some soul food and listen to music? I think not. We would be attacked becasue of the color of our skin.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:40 pm | #

It's a waste to even spend time and/or energy interacting with this troll. It's also a waste of Ellen's time if she has to again return to sift through the threads and delete troll droppings and responses to troll droppings. Trolls need to find more productive ways in which to develop their obvious lack of self-esteem. NW sounds young enough to be fighting for Bush's "noble" cause. Instead he childishly comes to progressive blogs to be hand fed attention and clog up the threads with blather.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:42 pm | #

We would be attacked becasue of the color of our skin.
northwoods
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northwoods time to put away the crytal ball or whatever it is you use to make your predictions and time for you to deal with reality

7 | 04.27.07 - 4:42 pm | #

White people, as a race, have absolutely no business playing the victim card. And when some do, it's most often a means to defend their own racism.

Individual victims of racism is another subject.
jaymayandjoseph | 04.27.07 - 4:40 pm |
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Nice try. but when people of a differnet race are kicking you in the head and screaming racial slurs, your definitions hardly matter.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:43 pm | #

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:40 pm | #

Does this guy do anything but cry?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:44 pm | #

Ahhh another one that just makes shit up

7 | 04.27.07 - 4:24 pm | #
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..and yet another reason to ignore that troll/name, too.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:44 pm | #

NW sounds young enough to be fighting for Bush's "noble" cause
Paige PbD
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Never going to happen.
Its pretty clear that when he is not gazing into the GOP approved crystal ball making insane predictions about the future, northwoods is scared little man, cowering under their bed
7 | 04.27.07 - 4:44 pm | #

Does this guy do anything but cry?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:44 pm | #
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Do yo think "honkie" is a racist slur?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:47 pm | #

Count Istvan
all they can do is cry and whine and fret over unseen threats
It really must suck being them, living in constant "I am a victim" mode.
7 | 04.27.07 - 4:48 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:42 pm |
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Paige, black racism is real. We are never going to solve any racial problems in this counrty until we admit that.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:48 pm | #

Count Istvan
all they can do is cry and whine and fret over unseen threats
It really must suck being them, living in constant "I am a victim" mode.
7 | 04.27.07 - 4:48 pm | #
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Is "honkie" a racist slur? No one will answer that so far.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:49 pm | #

McGuirk is little more than a barely closeted skinhead who is more than willing to do n-word jokes so long as there are no "n"s within striking distance.

Sometimes I wonder why he is so full of bitterness. Perhaps he is still upset that he couldn't get the neighborhood pedophile to molest him back when he was a child.
non_prophet | 04.27.07 - 4:50 pm | #

Im white and I have never been a victim of black on white racism. And I live in NYC.

I wonder why?

Maybe because Im not an asshole

Secular Progressive | 04.27.07 - 4:50 pm | #

Do yo think "honkie" is a racist slur?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:47 pm | #

I think if you can't spell it don't use it.

Which means you shouldn't post with the words YOU HONKY or WHAT again.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:51 pm | #

I wonder why?

Maybe because Im not an asshole

Secular Progressive | 04.27.07 - 4:50 pm | #
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More name calling. When you come to Chicago, you and I can go for a little walk in a certain neighborhood. You will be assualted for the color of your skin.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:52 pm | #

Is "honkie" a racist slur? No one will answer that so far.
northwoods
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WHO CARES??

I havent heard the word 'honkie" in like 30 years!! For real, what backwoods cousing dating community do you live in where that word is still bantered about? Do they also say words like "Swell" meaning good?
Its 2007 get with the times old man

Sure if it makes you feel better I will say yes. Does that make you feel better? Another chance for you to play the victim.
Secular Progressive | 04.27.07 - 4:53 pm | #

FBI Opening Far Fewer Civil Rights Inquiries

..Civil rights experts -- and even one of the Justice Department's top civil rights lawyers -- are troubled by the trend. They say hate-crime enforcement is too important to ignore, and there is a deterrent effect to federal review of police misconduct that is being muted.

..The FBI's decision to cut back on opening civil rights cases flies in the face of Justice Department and FBI policy calling for a preliminary investigation on every credible case. By doing so, the public would be assured that the incidents were getting an independent look.

...There have been 2/3 fewer investigations targeting abusive police officers, cross-burners and other purveyors of hate from 2001 to 2005.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ lo...ilrights26.html

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:54 pm | #

More name calling.
northwoods
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More making stuff up

I never called you a name

Get over it. The "Im a victim BOO HOO" is so lame

Secular Progressive | 04.27.07 - 4:54 pm | #

..Civil rights experts -- and even one of the Justice Department's top civil rights lawyers -- are troubled by the trend. They say hate-crime enforcement is too important to ignore, and there is a deterrent effect to federal review of police misconduct that is being muted.

..The FBI's decision to cut back on opening civil rights cases flies in the face of Justice Department and FBI policy calling for a preliminary investigation on every credible case. By doing so, the public would be assured that the incidents were getting an independent look.

...There have been 2/3 fewer investigations targeting abusive police officers, cross-burners and other purveyors of hate from 2001 to 2005.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ lo...ilrights26.html

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:54 pm | #
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They need to investigage what goes on near Sox Park.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:55 pm | #

another tip for Northwoods. if you can't fight don't call others names that make them kick your ass.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:56 pm | #

Blac on white racism is denied by many liberals. But I know it's real.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:56 pm | #

White men that play the victim on this issue are not men at all.

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Not Dick but Richard | 04.27.07 - 4:57 pm | #

Blac on white racism is denied by many liberals. But I know it's real.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:56 pm | #

Black another word Northwoods can't spell.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:57 pm | #

So, as the result of ONE incident in his life, northwoods became EXTREMELY FEARFUL of minorities..... and the result of that one incident gives him the incorrect attitude that ALL minorities are out to get him....specifically all blacks out to get all whites.....

If a blond were foolish enough to go for a walk after dark in many minority neighborhoods, he/she would be assaulted because of the color of his/her skin. That's a fact and you know it.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:03 pm | #

Can I take my family into an african-American Neighborhood in Chicago and eat some soul food and listen to music? I think not. We would be attacked becasue of the color of our skin.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:40 pm | #

I feel sorry for this poster, because he is unable to even understand his own racism....

Northwoods is like the Vince P trollposter, who FEARS all muslims because of the actions of a few

Apparently, FEAR is what motivates ALL white male rw thinking....

sad, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:58 pm | #

Black on White racism is real, but we still hold the power. It is also not as wide spread as White on Black racism.

Grow a pair and stop crying.

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Not Dick but Richard | 04.27.07 - 4:58 pm | #

"Paige, black racism is real."

-northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:48 pm |
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Then you should go and do something about it. If you're a victim of black racism then by all means prosecute. It is your right. If you are too lazy to execute your rights then don't complain.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 4:59 pm | #

Count, Canadian Paul, you're WAY to good to be interacting with this idiotic troll. He types out something provocative and anxiously waits for your reaction/reply - just like a dog waiting for you to throw the frisbee again and again and again. Dogs deserve that kind of attention. Trolls don't.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:00 pm | #

sad, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 4:58 pm

Very Sad and kind of ironic since they are the ones who made up the whole issue of the sissification of the white male. Must be more of that rightwing projection.

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Not Dick but Richard | 04.27.07 - 5:00 pm | #

Then you should go and do something about it. If you're a victim of black racism then by all means prosecute. It is your right. If you are too lazy to execute your rights then don't complain.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 4:59 pm | #
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Okay. I'll go for a walk tonight in a black neighborhood. When i'm attacked -- and any white person would be -- I can file charges. Great idea.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:01 pm | #

I just read in off-topic where the American Taliban tried to blow up an abortion clinic in Austin. Yet we all know it's only those filthy Muslims who are terrorist.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:01 pm | #

Okay. I'll go for a walk tonight in a black neighborhood. When i'm attacked -- and any white person would be -- I can file charges. Great idea.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:01 pm | #

Somebody go to Cost-Co and get this fool some Kleenex please.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:02 pm | #

Woke

I fear Muslims. They subscribe to a twisted faith, and very few of them have expressed any outrage over the extremists.

And the "flying imams" incident in MN helped to assure Muslims that they would not be placed under any additional scrutiny when traveling through airports.

That's creepy.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:03 pm | #

"Can I take my family into an african-American Neighborhood in Chicago and eat some soul food and listen to music? I think not."

northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:40 pm |
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Ha! Now I know your full of shit (or just honestly scared to death of black people). My wife and I go to the south side for soul food all the time! I've never had a problem. Maybe a couple of stares here and there, but nothing I couldn't handle.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 5:03 pm | #

I'll stop feeding the troll right after this comment

Northwoods shows his racism by equating Blackness with violence. Its not the color of the people in the neighborhood its the poverty and desperation. People used to say the same things about the Irish and Italian ghettos in the old days.

Please try to educate yourself before making silly comments Northwoods

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Not Dick but Richard | 04.27.07 - 5:04 pm | #

Ha! Now I know your full of shit (or just honestly scared to death of black people). My wife and I go to the south side for soul food all the time! I've never had a problem. Maybe a couple of stares here and there, but nothing I couldn't handle.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 5:03 pm
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I'm glad your experience was better than mine. It depends upon which neighborhood you go to.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:04 pm | #

barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:03 pm | #

was it Muslims who planted that bomb at an Austin abortion clinic?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:05 pm | #

Come ON you guys. Why don't we (non-troll readers) just talk over them? Remember, any attention is considered welcome attention. If if you're criticizing him or proving him wrong over and over and over, he is STILL getting your attention.
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:06 pm | #

barbie

The entire rw philosophy is based on FEAR

irrational FEAR is not good for you, my friend

try to understand that you have been duped into believing all muslims are out to get you.....

so a certain group of war profiteers can transfer huge sums of tax money into their pockets....

blaming all muslims for 911 is like blaming all Jews for the death of Jesus, or blaming all xtians for the women's clinic bombings, or blaming all southern white men for the strange fruit of the past and black church bombings

it's prejudice, based on irrational FEAR, understand??
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:07 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:06 pm | #
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I really don't think page can bring herself to admit that black racism is real.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:07 pm | #

Paige or paige anther word Northwoods can't use.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:08 pm | #

I work with a few, and we have discussed the subject. They seem very non-chalant about the issue. Though they do concede that it makes sense to scrutinize Muslims at airports.

And that CAIR group? Listen to them speak (Fox has CAIR members on frequently). They are a scary bunch.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:09 pm | #

I am white, and lived for years on the south side of Chicago (Harvey).

I was NEVER insulted, called honkie, attacked, or subject to ANY harrassment in any way.

Why?

Maybe because I didn't insult, call names, attack or subject any of my fellow human beings to harrassment in any way.

I go to blues clubs and juke joints all over America, most of which are in neighborhoods that are predominantly black, and have never had one problem.

The only time I have been attacked was in a redneck honkie tonk, by a racist asshole who called me a "nigger-lover" because I had a blues t-shirt on. He only got ONE hit in...

Oh, maybe I should describe myself... I stand 6'2", weigh 190, and took over 20 years of martial arts training.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 5:10 pm | #

Fox News Sinks To New Low, Repeatedly Reports Parody Story As Actual News

http://www.sunjournal.com/story/...ort_stirs_mess/

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04.../27/fox-parody/

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:11 pm | #

Woke,

Let me make myself clear: I do not fear ALL muslims -- but I do think that their religion has many, many scary elements, including the treatment of women.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:12 pm | #

They are a scary bunch.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:09 pm | #

and the KKK and neo Nazis who claim to be motivated by xtianity aren't scary??

that doesn't mean all xtians believe what those tiny minorities do, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:13 pm | #

The KKK and White supremacists scare me as well. I wouldn't look forward to traveling with a skinhead either.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:15 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:11 pm |

That's too funny

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Not Dick but Richard | 04.27.07 - 5:15 pm | #

barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:12 pm | #

Care to look at how some, and I repeat some, so-called Christians want to treat women?

Islam isn't the only religion that has some "scary elements"...

Oh, and by the way, you still owe Jack Murtha, a true American hero, an apology. You support a chicken-shit-hawk like Dumbya, but trash Jack Murtha as a cut and runner. Shame on you.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 5:16 pm | #

TruthWatch

I had a nice time chatting with Jorma yesterday......he learned his licks from Rev. Gary Davis....

folkenbluzen....is my thang and combined with latin/african rhythms.....is what all jazz, country and pop is based on

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Barbie do you think it was Muslims who planted that bomb at the Austin abortion clinic?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:16 pm | #

The KKK and White supremacists scare me as well. I wouldn't look forward to traveling with a skinhead either.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:15 pm | #

Bullshit. You practically cyber-screw a skinhead name Northwoods on this board daily.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:17 pm | #

It sure wasn't a muslim that blew up OK City Fed building,

McVeigh had just spent several weeks with the Christian Identity folks....

eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:18 pm | #

Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:08 pm | #
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I'm not even reading the content of his posts. Don't throw the frisbee anymore and maybe he'll stop going to fetch it and bring it back. You're interacting with someone who thinks that black people (who he refers to as the "inner city folk") aren't educated or knowledgable so they dumb down the Cities -where he says 90% of Democrats live. Why bother dignifying this kind of stuff with a response. He makes up bogus claims and doesn't bother to support his blather with factual proof or legitimate sourcing. Like I said, you're head and shoulders above this guy Count. I'm predicting Ellen is going to be pretty heated when she returns to a whole new mess she has to clean up in this thread (again).

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:18 pm | #

"When i'm attacked -- and any white person would be -- I can file charges."

-northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:01 pm |
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So you haven't been a victim yet? My apologies. The way you were carrying on I just assumed an African-American family burned a cross on your lawn or kept you from voting somehow. My mistake.

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Awesome! Jorma is a great artist. He learned from one of the best...

I know literally hundreds of bluesmen and women. One of my best friends is 92 year old David "Honeyboy" Edwards, the last man standing who actually played with Robert Johnson. What tales he has to tell.

I truly hate racist asshole who claim white people can't go to blues clubs in ethnic neighborhoods. Idiots like them keep too many people from enjoying some of the best music on earth...
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #

Truth,

I detailed my differences as well as points of agreement with the Murtha plan on the thread yesterday. So look for it. I believe I was addressing Kim.

But please educate me: What elements of Christianity are anti-women? I need to know.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #

"I fear Muslims....very few of them have expressed any outrage over the extremists."

- barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:03 pm |
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How many Muslims have you talked to about this?

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Gooch_X | 04.27.07 - 5:05 pm | #

Barbie's are made of plastic and come in a cardboard box with a cellophane window as their only view of the world.

But typical troll behavior: I don't want to discuss the sins of Imus or McGuirk, I'd rather talk about how bad "other" people are....
jaymayandjoseph | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #

You practically cyber-screw a skinhead name Northwoods on this board daily.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:17 pm | #
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ok, now that is funny. (Maybe the same person)?
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:21 pm | #

The whole ham thing brings up an interesting point. The right thinks its funny to make fun of Muslim religious beliefs, like not eating ham, but go absolutely ballistic when someone dares to say Happy Holidays.

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Not Dick but Richard | 04.27.07 - 5:22 pm | #

Barbie's are made of plastic and come in a cardboard box with a cellophane window as their only view of the world.

But typical troll behavior: I don't want to discuss the sins of Imus or McGuirk, I'd rather talk about how bad "other" people are....
jaymayandjoseph | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #
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More personal attacks -- while dodging her question.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:22 pm | #

But please educate me: What elements of Christianity are anti-women? I need to know.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport...ives/ 10638.html

A package left at a clinic that performs abortions contained an explosive device that investigators said Thursday could have been deadly.

The incident came just days after a national abortion group alerted providers around the country to an increased risk of violence.

The device, found in a duffle bag Wednesday, “was configured in such a way to cause serious bodily injury or death,” said David Carter, assistant chief of the Austin Police Department.

Unfortunately, there seems to be a pattern — when abortion makes headlines, violent activists are apparently more likely to attack. Vicki Saporta, president of the National Abortion Federation, noted that there have been 93 attempted bombings and arson committed during times that abortion issues were prominent in the news.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:22 pm | #

I am going to cry like a little girl.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:22 pm | #

Fixed.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:23 pm | #

Not Dick

Happy Holidays does not offend me. Nor does the fact that Muslims are missing out on ham.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:24 pm | #

barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:24 pm | #

I answered your question Babs. No response?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:25 pm | #

Crickets chirping in barbie's head
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:27 pm | #

Paige, Is black racism real or not?

Or are you going to hide under Ellen's skirt?
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:27 pm | #

Crickets chirping in barbie's head
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:27 pm | #
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At least she's not a racist -- like you.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:28 pm | #

Its a WAR on Christmas!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAA THE END IS NEAR!!!!

and all the sissies at fox go running willy nilly

Where are the Culture Warriors AAAAAAAAAAAA

Save us Billo Save us from the evil brown people!!!!!!

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Not Dick but Richard | 04.27.07 - 5:28 pm | #

Count

In case you haven't noticed, I've been ignoring you since you tell me to F-off when you see me post. That's mean. And I have never been mean to you or anyone on here. I am always polite.

But I'm missing the point: Where in the Bible does it encourage the bombing of abortion clinics?
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:29 pm | #

At least she's not a racist -- like you.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 5:28 pm | #

Let me guess I hate White people right?
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:29 pm | #

Count

In case you haven't noticed, I've been ignoring you since I have no answer and can't defend my racists posts.

But I'm missing the point: even though it's professed "Christians" who are always behind these terrorist acts why shouldn't I still single out Muslims.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:29 pm | #

Fixed.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:32 pm | #

barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #

No you didn't. In response to me, all you did was say I needed to give Petraeus a chance.

You completely ignored the fact that Patraeus clearly stated that a military victory was impossible, and that political solutions were the answer, all while calling Jack Murtha a cut and runner, despite the fact that both Murtha and Patraeus both agree on everything except putting more troops into a civil war.

As for Christianity, there are some who feel a woman's place is only in the home, barefoot and pregnant. They also feel that a woman must submit to her husbands will at all times. So-called Christians stoned women into the 19th century. They burned women as witches for daring to speak out against being treated like property.

Let's look at the Bible for examples...

"Let women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. "

In so many words, Paul is telling women to STFU!

Also, just how many women are Catholic priests???
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 5:32 pm | #

But please educate me: What elements of Christianity are anti-women? I need to know.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #

What Every Wife Needs to Know

By:
Richard L. Strauss

The primary responsibility of the husband in a Christian home is to love his wife. This is mentioned a number of times in the Bible. In one passage of Scripture, however, wives are commanded to love their husbands.88 While this one reference indicates that they are expected to help create an atmosphere of love in the home, their primary responsibility is introduced in the next verse, where they are exhorted to be obedient to their own husbands.89 Obedience involves subjection and subordination. The word is used of the wife’s responsibility to her husband no less than six times in the New Testament.90

We have discussed the subject of headship and God’s order of authority in the home previously, but now we want to apply it specifically to the wife, for submission is her principal obligation. “You wives must submit to your husbands’ leadership in the same way you submit to the Lord.”91 Ladies, submission to your husband is really submission to the Lord, because the Lord commands you to do it! If you cannot find it in you to submit to your husband for his sake, do it for the Lord’s sake. The Lord loves you with a perfect love. Respond to His love with subjection to your husband.

“You wives must willingly obey your husbands in everything, just as the church obeys Christ.”92 Those two words “in everything” are rather broad, aren’t they? Obedience is not to be practiced only when you feel like it, or when you wholeheartedly agree with your husband, or when he is treating you with Christ-like love, but in everything! The Bible does not condition your subjection on his love, even as it did not condition his love on your subjection. You must answer to God for your own actions, and no excuse for disobeying His Word will be accepted.

“But my husband never considers my feelings. I’ve got to stand up for my rights.” Aren’t you disputing the Word and wisdom of your omniscient God? Do you think for a moment that He did not know about your circumstances when He wrote His Word? He says that you are to be in submission to your husband in everything. He must have known that this would be best for you, or He would never have asked it of you. Give your will to Him; tell Him that you are willing to be the submissive partner. Obedience to this command glorifies God richly.

http://www.bible.org/page.php?pa...hp? page_id=1282

time
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woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:32 pm | #

Idiots like them keep too many people from enjoying some of the best music on earth...
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 5:20 pm | #
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Agreed.

America's Smartest Cities

..Cities in general are better positioned than rural areas to attract knowledge workers. The advantages can vary from an abundance of high-tech or other employers who require highly educated workers to cultural facilities and recreational opportunities.

..Simply put, smart people like to live in cool places, and cities are trying to oblige.

..In the United States, the 5 most-educated major municipalities all qualify among the 25 cities with the highest median household income.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/29/...ities/ index.htm

http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/29/...ities/ index.htm
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:37 pm | #

If a blond were foolish enough to go for a walk after dark in many minority neighborhoods, he/she would be assaulted because of the color of his/her skin. That's a fact and you know it.
northwoods | 04.27.07 - 4:03 pm

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I must be some sort of badass to have walked around the French Quarter in the middle of the night (off Bourbon St), or NW Portland and have survived....all without a concealed weapon.
DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 5:38 pm | #

Here's the FORBES link:

http://www.forbes.com/ entreprene...martcities.html
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:39 pm | #

Fox News Poll: United States is Ready to Elect a Black President

..Clear majorities say yes, they think the United States is ready to elect an African-American president.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,255778,00.html
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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:49 pm | #

Truth,

My post was directed at Kim I believe. But the essence of it was: I disagree with Murtha's desire to want to "diplomatically pursue security & stability in Iraq." The enemy there ("insurgents") cannot be reasoned with on a diplomatic basis.

He also wishes to re-deploy troops, but doesn't state where, so I don't know whether I'm in agreement on that one or not.

I did not insult his service in the military. I admire him for that, as I would anyone.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:50 pm | #

Woke,

I believe that Christianity has progressed beyond that archaic interpretation. But I did appreciate the post. I do not agree with every element of the religion. And I am with you on the issue of women priests.

I am a fan, though, of the traditional roles of husband and wife. Not necessarily to the extreme as illustrated.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:54 pm | #

Count Istvan,
Please stay off my threads if you can't stop baiting the trolls. This is my final warning to you. I will ban you if you do it again.

JUST IGNORE THE TROLLS AND DO NOT RESPOND.
Ellen | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:55 pm | #

We should be conducting a war against the terrorists in which America’s borders are effectively guarded to keep out terrorists, and programs are in place to ensure that none of the millions of cargo containers that enter American ports contain explosives that could render one or more of our great ports inoperable and debilitate our economy, not a “War on Terror” where our finest young people are sacrificing their lives and limbs to implement the visions of “intellectual geopolitical strategists” who fantasize about Jeffersonian democracies being installed in Middle East cultures that have had authoritarian regimes during their entire two millennia of existence.

http://www.house.gov/list/press/ ..._coll_iraq.html

yeah, that Murtha is a real surrender monkey

read his statement

you will see he DOES speak to where our troops could be redeployed

Kuwait, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia

I'm sure the Saudis won't mind, eh?
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:56 pm | #

Pro-Tolerance Article Gets Teacher Fired From School

http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATIO...p.ap/ index.html
Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:58 pm | #

Count

Get off the enlisting schtick, it's getting old. But I'll take the bait.

FYI, I have a brother who is a police officer, and a brother-in-law who is a Navy Seal. Also, I take turns cooking dinner for families who have family members currently serving in Iraq.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:59 pm | #

barbie

that post was from the bible.org

and it's author just recently died

i specifically chose that because it spoke about how wife subjugation was mentioned in the NEW Testament at least 6 times

i didn't want to give you the excuse you used, ...to say that only the old testament called for complete subjugation....

these are modern day "xtians", my friend...

not biblical ones
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 6:01 pm | #

I disagree with Murtha's desire to want to "diplomatically pursue security & stability in Iraq."

barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:50 pm | #

So, do you disagree with Patraeus too???

Petraeus also called for a political solution, and said there is NO MILITAARY SOLUTION.

You are just against Murtha because he is a Democrat. Admit it, and move on.

"There is no military solution to a problem like that in Iraq, to the insurgency of Iraq," Petraeus told a news conference, adding that political negotiations were crucial to forging any lasting peace.

Petraeus said talks should include "some of those who have felt the new Iraq did not have a place for them," and said a key challenge facing Iraq's government was to identify "reconcilable" militant groups and bring them inside the political process.

This is my last post to you. You are clearly past redemption.
TruthWatch | 04.27.07 - 6:02 pm | #

i agree TruthWatch

barbie has been debunked time to move on

sorry if i belabored the issues, ellen

my bad

Imus got what he deserved and it wasn't the first time he'd been fired

The rw are happy about it because he was a loose cannon that bashed bush .....so why would they care.....they offered him up, eh?

think on it
woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 6:04 pm | #

Also, I take turns cooking dinner for families who have family members currently serving in Iraq.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:59 pm | #

Oh, what a sacrifice...

How about going to your local VA hospital and empty our vet's bed pans for a day or two?
TomPaineInTheButt | 04.27.07 - 6:05 pm | #

Paine,

Sure go ahead and insult. It's probably a lot more than many other people are doing.

And I do work full time.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 6:08 pm | #

woke | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 5:32 pm
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Yikes!!! That article was pro-Christianity?

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I am a fan, though, of the traditional roles of husband and wife. Not necessarily to the extreme as illustrated.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 5:54 p
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I've been on the extreme end of the non-traditional roles and now have found a comfy middle ground with my current wife.

It's all about the relationship. I don't ask for or demand obedience, but she isn't offended that I'm very much male. In fact that is one of the things she likes...as she is heterosexual.

So I get you point about "traditional roles" but to each their own. And the subservient women's role in Christianity has gone on long enough that praising "traditional" husband/wife roles does amount to sexism.
DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 6:08 pm | #

Dave

Well stated.
barbie66 | 04.27.07 - 6:15 pm | #

Barbie,

thank you,

now let's go back to beating each other up. ;)
DaveJ | 04.27.07 - 6:25 pm | #

It's hard to tell what this thread is about anymore. How did it jump to being about abortions, cooking, roles of men and women at home ???

It originally began as being about racially offensive jokes.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 04.27.07 - 6:26 pm | #

McGuirk continued by saying Sharpton is the kind of guy “who would park in a handicapped spot or …bring a wheelchair to an amusement park so he could jump the lines.”

This description I thought was right on the money on the very reverand sharpton.
Sam Murphy | 04.27.07 - 7:32 pm | #

C'mon dudes. Sharpton is a racist his self. He is the worst of the worst behind Jackson and Cosby. I'm still waiting for l'il fat boy to acknowledge that he made a mistake in condemning the Duke lacross team. Then he should apologize for bringing in the Black Panthers. Bringing in the neo racist Panthers was telling white people to stick it in their ass. One thing for sure, race relations will never improve as long as Sharpton and Jackson are at the helm.
prior service | 04.27.07 - 10:07 pm | #

Time to repost an oldie but a goody I see....

Peggy McIntosh said:

"I was taught to see racism only in individual acts of meanness, not in invisible systems conferring dominance on my group"

She also lists 50 conditions most minority groups face daily, many of which are completely invisible to white Americans.

The First Ten:

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~mci.../ Unpacking.html

Think about it.
Michelle | 04.27.07 - 10:51 pm | #

You libs are hypocrites. You wail on Imus, but say NOTHING about the rap artists and gangbangers who make millions for degrading women!
Rocky Lore | 08.27.07 - 12:46 am | #

That last accusation is simply untrue.
mom22 | 08.27.07 - 1:15 am | #

The Truth Will Set You Free.
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/ ...x220660356.html
Anonymous | 12.30.07 - 12:13 am | #

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