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The livestock on FnF are the three braying asses that host the show.
Mike in The CR | 01.03.08 - 9:17 am | #

Hillary reminds me of a cow!
Conman | 01.03.08 - 9:23 am | #

what a childish piece of fluff "journalism.

OH wait. That was Fox. Thagt was redundant.
hoode | 01.03.08 - 9:25 am | #

Donna, do you have the tape of the whole show? Reason I ask is that I flipped briefly to Fox during an MSNBC commercial (they are doing all day, on site coverage of the Iowa caucuses) and the fiends were talking to Donald Trump who said that the US invaded the wrong country. The fiends looked uncomfortable and went to a commercial.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:32 am | #

par for the mouth-breathing course
jr | 01.03.08 - 9:35 am | #

claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:32 am | #

Wow, the Donald said that? Talk about an egg on the face moment for the F&F crew.
Godzilla104 | 01.03.08 - 9:35 am | #

Zack | 01.03.08 - 9:34 am

You do realize that these types of statements expose your ignorance which should be embarassing for you.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:39 am | #

I was just on liberal oasis and they don't have a link to News Hounds.
http://www.liberaloasis.com/

What is up with that? They have a link to the Nudist Trailer Park, but not News Hounds.
Zack | 01.03.08 - 9:40 am | #

claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:32 am | #

I saw that too. The "right" message was not getting out so they bailed.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 9:40 am | #

Funny that Zack would make that kind of statement about Clinton because I'm picturing Zack as an overweight goober with stains on his confederate flag teeshirt.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:41 am | #

Check this out. A picture of a 2-legged pig.

http://i48.photobucket.com/ album...ck_on_a_pig.jpg

Classic!
Zack | 01.03.08 - 9:41 am | #

Zack | 01.03.08 - 9:34 am | #

I wonder how your inflated love doll feels waking up next to you.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 9:42 am | #

I saw that too. The "right" message was not getting out so they bailed.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 9:40 am | #

Once again seeing something that isn't there.
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 9:42 am | #

claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:41 am | #

Yeah, who has fantasies about farm animals so much he keeps pictures of them on his computer.
Godzilla104 | 01.03.08 - 9:42 am | #

FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 9:40 am

I've seen Trump being interviewed on Fox and he makes no bones about liking and respecting Hillary Clinton - and he has far more respect in the real world than the little Fox jungen.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:42 am | #

claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:42 am | #

That's true. And the Donald never gets his mic cut, though this was close.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 9:44 am | #

FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 9:44 am

They said that they would be back after the break; but I had to go back to the grown-up channel.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:46 am | #

Claudo,

I heard that precious moment with the Donald,but didn't see,as I was in scurry mode.Must have been priceless to see the facial expressions.
notveryhow | 01.03.08 - 9:46 am | #

notveryhow | 01.03.08 - 9:46 am

No smiley faces there!!!
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:47 am | #

LOL. Hey Pee, you're not in Kindergarten anymore. Upgrade your insults to something more suitable for your grade, eh?

Members, if you have to respond to trolls, please wait for an insult worth responding to.
Abby | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 9:48 am | #

They said that they would be back after the break; but I had to go back to the grown-up channel.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:46 am | #

I was heading out the door and didn't see the rest either. Probably just more Apprentice promo.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 9:49 am | #

Claudo,

I stopped my tape after the Hillary name calling. I didn't get to the Donald part but it may have come on after a break from my segment.

So sorry.
Donna | 01.03.08 - 9:54 am | #

I don't know. Is Fred Thompson the Creature from the Black Lagoon in a suit?
ProfessorDuh | 01.03.08 - 9:56 am | #

ProfessorDuh | 01.03.08 - 9:56 am

LOL!!! Yeah, I think so.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 9:59 am | #

ProfessorDuh | 01.03.08 - 9:56 am

LOL, I see the resemblence.

I've always thought that Thompson and Lieberman were tied for the Droopy Dog look alike contest. Lieberman may get the edge though because he sounds like Droopy when he talks.

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Crash Chloride | 01.03.08 - 10:01 am | #

Claudo,

Trump did say that we went into the wrong war and that Roger Ailes wouldn't like him saying that.

Given all of the pundits (even the ones that work on Fox) that have spoken ill of the war, I don't think it is a big deal.

That did occur at the very end of the show (8:57 EST or so). And if someone said something negative about your boss in a TV interview, what would you do in response?
DL | 01.03.08 - 10:03 am | #

First I thought that the sons were there to enlist, but no, they are there to support the old man. But has anyone noticed that they all look 'evil' especially the one closest to the camera (on the right)?
ronhohn | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 10:04 am | #

Zack | 01.03.08 - 9:34 am | #
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Are you not the son of a mother who said "if you can't say anything nice...." ?
Patriot Actor | 01.03.08 - 10:05 am | #

DL | 01.03.08 - 10:03 am

You'd say that they have a right to their opinion.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:06 am | #

DL 10:03 am
"And if someone said something negative about your boss...."

Did someone say something"negative"about Roger?
notveryhow | 01.03.08 - 10:08 am | #

Sigh. Nothing new here. Move along folks. Fox news attacking the way Hillary looks or acts. ... nothing new. Move along ...

It's just gonna get worse.

When will a real news channel rise from the ashes of journalistic integrity? When will a real reporter arrive on the scene? Oh, Underdog!
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 10:11 am | #

That's funny. Hillary reminds me of a 2 legged pig. No wonder Bill Clinton has had a dozen affairs on her. Who can blame him. Seriously, if you are a guy, can you imagine the thought of having to wake up next to her every morning.
Zack
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I you are a guy, Zack how's it waking up next to whiskey breath O'Reilly every morning?
Do you shower before or after?
can of whoop-ass | 01.03.08 - 10:14 am | #

Speaking of livestock,the Pennsylvania Farm Show opens on Saturday.

I'm excited.A nieghbors daughter has won the sheep competition for 2 years running.Will she make it 3?
notveryhow | 01.03.08 - 10:19 am | #

notveryhow | 01.03.08 - 10:19 am | #

That is WAY more exciting than the caucus's news coverage.
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 10:21 am | #

When will a real news channel rise from the ashes of journalistic integrity? When will a real reporter arrive on the scene? Oh, Underdog!
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 10:11 am
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Best tag line for worst movie — "One Nation, Under Dog."
ProfessorDuh | 01.03.08 - 10:25 am | #

This is no different than what some of your Hounds do.
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 10:27 am

This is a blog - not a national TV "News" network purporting to be "fair and balanced." As such, we are free to debunk and deride as much as possible. What is it about satire that you wingers don't understand. Ever see the Daily Show and Colbert? Hope not, you wouldn't like it. But again, it's all about the deconstruction and satire can be an intergral part of that.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:29 am | #

Meanwhile, the MSNBC folks are analysing trends and information about the candidates and the races - but then they consider themselves serious commentators which is a description that will never be applied to the Fox Jungen.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:31 am | #

Now we all know who Robert Novak is and his relationship to the CIA scandal.

Yes, that was a terrible thing he did. Printing her name AFTER he was told that there would be no problem.
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 10:34 am | #

If Obama becomes the candidate, I wouldn't be surprised if the "kids" did black face - I'm sure the audience just loves the minstrel shows!!!
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:37 am | #

Wonder if the lil pals will pull out the giant flip flop that they used for Kerry - for Romney!!!!
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:39 am | #

Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 10:42 am

Whatever....
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:45 am | #

Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 10:42 am

But comparing Senator Clinton to livestock is appropriate. As I have said, the contrast between MSNBC and the lil pals is just sooooo striking. It's like the difference between kindergarten and post graduate work.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:47 am | #

It's kinda ironic that the same white guys who are so upset about how black rap music treats women say the most misogynisitc things about Hillary Clinton. Their fear and loathing of smart professional women is truly amazing.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:49 am | #

Wonder if the lil pals will pull out the giant flip flop that they used for Kerry - for Romney!!!!
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:39 am | #

Now that would truly be fair and balanced - so we'll never see it.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 10:51 am | #

Zack,Old Mac etc.

i thought school was back in session.
notveryhow | 01.03.08 - 10:52 am | #

FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 10:51 am

On Fox, republicans (with the exception of Huckabee) are treated with reverence. Funny that they don't like Huckabee because he really represents their demographic.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:52 am | #

Old MacDonald | 01.03.08 - 10:47 am |

CDS Alert!

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Crash Chloride | 01.03.08 - 10:52 am | #

Leo is a long time troll of many names who posts what he thinks are "liberal" positions that others will agree with. He is sooooo transparent.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:54 am | #

Never really paid any attention before and this is off topic BUT...according to our own stats, only 9 people are online here...yet there are way more than 9 people posting...hmmmm...I smell trolls on both sides of the fence.
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 10:54 am | #

claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:52 am |

The same goes for Ron Paul who seems to reprent old school conservative thought. Yet another sign that the neocons are on the fast track to Fascism.

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Crash Chloride | 01.03.08 - 10:56 am | #

Crash Chloride | 01.03.08 - 10:56 am

Wonder if Fox has mentioned the brou-ha-ha about Paul not being invited to the Fox New Hampshire debate?
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:57 am | #

On Fox, republicans (with the exception of Huckabee) are treated with reverence. Funny that they don't like Huckabee because he really represents their demographic.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:52 am | #

Yes, but Huckabee's populist streak is very threatening to the monied elite FOX really speaks for. They want Rudy but can live with Mitt. The fact FOX viewers modally support Huckabee is another example of the GOP leading the believers around by the nose. This primary campaign may fracture that coalition for good and GOP promises undelivered are an axis of attack the Democrats should exploit in the GE.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 10:58 am | #

And regarding Ms. Clinton's appearance - It was Drudge who posted the unflattering photo of Clinton which focused attention to her looks and not her policy issues. Of couse, appearances are never discussed when it comes to males. As formerly noted, we have Fred Thompson who isn't any stud muffin.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:01 am | #

She will unite the country and end the Republican party.
Leo | 01.03.08 - 11:00 am |

Its comments like that, that make people think you're a troll. Nobody thinks Hillary wants to end the republican party. Only a real loon would want to make this country a one party state, like the neocons for example.

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Crash Chloride | 01.03.08 - 11:02 am | #

claudo,
Drudge is doing that because he knows when she wins, he's gonna go to join for attacking here. Hillary don't play!
Leo | 01.03.08 - 11:02 am | #

The Wingnut channel is up in arms.

Nothing scares a right winger more than a powerful woman or a minority.
Marco | 01.03.08 - 11:03 am | #

Crash Chloride | 01.03.08 - 11:02 am | #

Total troll. Sorry, that BS may work at the tard barn that is Free Republic.

Won;t work here, Leo.
Marco | 01.03.08 - 11:06 am | #

Marco | 01.03.08 - 11:05 am

Many of them had fantasies about Grandpa Fred's "trophy wife."
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:07 am | #

Marco | 01.03.08 - 11:06 am

First time for "Leo" - who knows how many times for whomever the sockpuppet master is!!!!
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:08 am | #

Leo | 01.03.08 - 11:00 am | #

She probably does have the best chance of seducing former Republicans aside from the youngest voters over to the Democratic side. However, I really wonder if she loses more independents and those on the left than she picks up from the center.

Obama is a wildcard. He represents what may become an enduring line of intergenerational political cleavage which I think is badly needed. Too many domestic policy issues are turning into forcing the young to pay benefits for the old. As with Bush's unbridled war spending on the national credit card, young voters need to participate before the boomers pick their pockets clean. They'll have enough problems maintaining their standards of living in the face of global competition, surging health care costs, the retreat of defined benefit plans, and stagnant real wages in aggregate, etc.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 11:08 am | #

Like I told the troll before: Party affiliation, easy to hide. Stupidity, not so much.

The stink of a Republican troll is impossible to hide.
Abby | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 11:10 am | #

FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 11:08 am

On the grown up MSNBC show, this morning, Chuck Todd said that unlike 92 there is no movement to the center because there is no center. According to Todd, the independents, who would usually be center types, are moving into the democratic column.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:11 am | #

Marco, I post st Think Progress. Many posters there know me and support my views. The Republican Party is evil and must be destroyed.
Leo | 01.03.08 - 11:07 am | #

Anyone can post at Thinkprogress. Want a medal?

Every sane person knows that the modern GOP is a loony bin of chicken hawk cowards. No Democratic candidate has even insinuated that party should be banned.

It's sad that you cannot argue the GOP platform, but feel you must distort a leading Democrat's. Must fill you with pride.
Marco | 01.03.08 - 11:13 am | #

On MSNBC, they talked about a former Bush supporter who is now a precinct captain for Obama. You'd never hear anything about that on Fox!
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:16 am | #

I wouldn't dignify Leo with an answer, he's a pseudo progressive who has dozens of sock puppets, it's the same shtick every day. New day, different sock puppet.
FrankC | 01.03.08 - 11:16 am | #

It begs the question;

Is Steve Doocy human, or one of Roger Ailes' anal dwelling butt monkeys?
Wonko the Sane | 01.03.08 - 11:16 am | #

Leo | 01.03.08 - 11:11 am | #

The GOP has largely destroyed itself by losing their fiscal discipline and core constituency among non-ideologues, invading Iraq for what most now see as no good reasons, and becoming such an obvious stooge for K Street lobbyists at the expense of the people. All the congressional retirements show how little confidence Republican office holders have in their prospects. that's the most important barometer of what is to come.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 11:19 am | #

Marco, I post st Think Progress.

Leo | 01.03.08 - 11:07 am
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Yesterday the troll Norman had think progress as it's homepage.
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 11:19 am | #

It's a valid question folks. Good thing Doocy had the courage to bring it up.
AL G. | 01.03.08 - 11:14 am |

I think the real question is whether steve d is a douche or just a dipshit.
Doug D | 01.03.08 - 11:21 am | #

Doug D | 01.03.08 - 11:21 am

How bout both?
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:22 am | #

So Novak is a psychic now?

I actually had hoped Hillary would come in third. I like her, but not as much as Obama or Edwards. Now however, since it will make the dreams of the F'nC types come true, I hope she kicks ass. They are terrified of her, I love it!
Wonko the Sane | 01.03.08 - 11:23 am | #

On the grown up MSNBC show, this morning, Chuck Todd said that unlike 92 there is no movement to the center because there is no center. According to Todd, the independents, who would usually be center types, are moving into the democratic column.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:11 am | #

Todd knows his stuff. That's usually how it goes in change elections. The old competition for the median voter, an effort to outmiddle the opponent, really doesn't work anymore in this era defined by tremendous ideolgical distance between the parties. People sick of the status quo will disproportionately break left. That is unless a third alternative presents itself.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 11:23 am | #

How bout both?
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:22 am |

Yeah I thought about that but what would be left for poor Brian.
Doug D | 01.03.08 - 11:28 am | #

As formerly noted, we have Fred Thompson who isn't any stud muffin.

claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:01 am | #

And the great white hope from the summer is about to drop out it seems.

Remember our trolls telling us how he was going to roll over the competition?

LOL.
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I remember. I wish I could recall which trolls. Too funny.

To me, Thompson seems like a wax dummy that's been left out in the sun.

Kim, Pb.D | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 11:29 am | #

It seems like good ole Fred operates much better when he has a script.
FrankC | 01.03.08 - 11:33 am | #

I think people just discovered for themselves what a first class jerk Thompson is. Especially here in Iowa.
Doug D | 01.03.08 - 11:35 am | #

According to Todd, the independents, who would usually be center types, are moving into the democratic column.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 11:11 am |

That would be correct. I'm an independent and there ain't no way I'm voting Repug until I see them move back towards the center. Of course, there ain't no way I'm voting for Kuchinch either, so ...
The lockstep partisanship shown by the Republicans and the way they've destroyed any current hope in this country makes it very, very difficult to consider any Republican.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 11:41 am | #

I think people just discovered for themselves what a first class jerk Thompson is. Especially here in Iowa.
Posted by: Doug D
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I've got Repub relatives in Iowa and Thompson is the butt of their jokes. I think they actually despise him, his lame remarks and his wimpy attempt to become President.
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dd | 01.03.08 - 11:49 am | #

Murphy | 01.03.08 - 11:57 am | #

All this troll has done is bitch bitch bitch. Hello Pot, meet the Kettle.
FrankC | 01.03.08 - 11:59 am | #

FrankC | 01.03.08 - 11:59 am

He loves his Fox.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 12:01 pm | #

Murphy | 01.03.08 - 12:01 pm

"Always absent" - got proof?
claudo | 01.03.08 - 12:02 pm | #

Good thing Doocy had the courage to bring it up.
Posted by: AL G.
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It takes courage to call someone a piece of livestock? Bwaaah!

Douchey, is that you? All done pimping up your Wiki entry so you decided to come over here and polish up that turd of a remark you quipped about Hillary? What a tool.
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dd | 01.03.08 - 12:03 pm | #

I would compare Kilmeade and Doocy to horse manure but I don't want to insult the horse manure.
davefromqueens | 01.03.08 - 12:04 pm | #

FYI - the WAPO has this summary of Obama's voting on key issues:

http://projects.washingtonpost.c...0167/key-votes/

Looks like trollBoy is wrong.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 12:04 pm | #

I do so miss Stewart's and Colbert's mocking of Doocey and the "guy who isn't Steve Doocey!"
claudo | 01.03.08 - 12:06 pm | #

Looks like trollBoy is wrong.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 12:04 pm | #

Well not really, you can't really be wrong when you're clueless.
FrankC | 01.03.08 - 12:11 pm | #

I get a real kick out of you people.....
Murphy | 01.03.08 - 12:01 pm
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Yeah, yeah... but the worst Democratic candidate is better than any Republican candidate but that's no comparision.

Do something better than "Democrat bad, Republican good". Tell us why any cockroach would not be a better candidate than any of the current batch of Republicans running for office, save that nut Ron Paul.
Abby | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 12:12 pm | #

Cockroaches go off and clean themselves after coming in contact with Republicans.
CafeenMan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 12:14 pm | #

How can you possibly know what he represents if won't even commit himself with a vote ?
Murphy | 01.03.08 - 12:01 pm | #

Ahhh. You've just explained unintentionally why senators don't get elected to the WH and governors do. If you were a governor, like Reagan or Clinton or Bush or Romney or Huckabee, you don't have to commit to any positions and can campaign pretending you're all things to all people because you have no record. Obama's limited legislative experience is, in some ways, something that works to his advantage. But you fail to comprehend that most congressional votes aren't decisive and positions are taken usually to show support for supportive interests or constituencies. So not not voting isn't really an issue except for when tight votes come up on important issues. And no one misses those.
FinalFurlong | 01.03.08 - 12:15 pm | #

Well, we are still in New Orleans partying in the French Quarter. What a drunk-fest it is.
http://p.vtourist.com/863862- New...New_Orleans.jpg

Here is the hotel we are staying at - The Royal Sonesta on Bourbon St. I highly recommend it.
http://www.ralphb.net/JDMS/image...ages/ nola01.jpg
http://images.search.yahoo.com/s...d4cfb2&ei=UTF- 8

Just in case anyone wanted to order some Sugar Bowl Champ items ... here is the link.
http:// georgiadogs.teamfanshop.c...eorgia_Bulldogs

GO DAWGS !
The G Dawg | 01.03.08 - 12:22 pm | #

Wonder if Fox has mentioned the brou-ha-ha about Paul not being invited to the Fox New Hampshire debate?
claudo | 01.03.08 - 10:57 am | #

Duncan Hunter wasn't invited either but I don't see him whining. Paul wasn't invited because he doesn't register in the national pools. Same thing happened to Kucinich and Gravel.
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 12:22 pm | #

Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 12:22 pm

Did Faux cover that? NOPE.
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 12:26 pm | #

Murphy | 01.03.08 - 11:57 am | #

Fox will never mention Mitt's Flip Flops. Wonder why that is? Could anyone guess why that is? Hmmmmm. Nooo it couldn't be that he's a Republican? Could it? Noooo Fox is to fair and balanced for that. Wonder why Fox will never mention Mitt's Flip Flop.
Free Speech | 01.03.08 - 12:30 pm | #

The G Dawg | 01.03.08 - 12:27 pm

Nobody really cares about your fantasy trip you're having in your mom's basement.

Besides, to get reservations at a hotel in the French Quarter during Mardi Grau or the Sugar Bowl weekend you have to have reservations at least 5yrs in advance. I know.
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 12:32 pm | #

The G Dawg | 01.03.08 - 12:27 pm | #

Nice pictures of New Orleans.
TR | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 12:35 pm | #

Mardi Grau > Mardi Gras
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 12:39 pm | #

Did Faux cover that? NOPE.
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 12:26 pm | #

Cover the Hunter story? Yes. It was on O'Reilly last night. Changes nothing.
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 12:41 pm | #

It was on O'Reilly last night. Changes nothing.
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 12:41 pm

You actually watch Falafel and admit it? Oh my, you do need therapy and regularity!!!!!!!
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 12:42 pm | #

Here are few more pics of the French Quarter. Just one more day of drinking and eating, then back to the ATL.

The G Dawg | 01.03.08 - 12:27 pm | #

In case you haven't noticed, we don't give a shit
FrankC | 01.03.08 - 12:44 pm | #

Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton - born October 26, 1947...

Idiot conservative humanoids - whose reign has been a disaster for this nation over the last 8 years...

... yeah, let's take an embarrassingly juvenile cheap shot at a woman's appearance who's in her friggin' 60's. Right up there when that other loudmouth conservative loser - fat, bald, sweaty, greazy melon head - Limbaugh, called 12 year old Chelsea, "the WH dog".

Classy!

That's conservative "punditry" for you on Fox "News". And you know what?

- Who's this humanoid "Doocy" to talk? He's the last idiot on the planet to be critical of someone else's appearance. Like this clown is gonna be the centerfold in Playgirl anytime soon.
- If you want to get into irrelevant discussion about "looks", especially of an older woman...fact is, Hillary looks just fine for a woman who's 60 years old. Betchya she looks waaaay better than your conservative idiot wife at age 60.
- In fact, by virtue of the fact she has all her teeth, she looks better than nearly all the conservative chicks 1/2 her age...

If you think childish cheap shots like idiot "Doocy" made are somehow helping the "conservative cause", think again. This country is absolutely disgusted with so-called conservatism which has become synonymous with "having no class" (as illustrated by Doocy's comments, which are all to typical in conservative punditry), stupidity, incompetence, cowardace, and failure. This country can't wait - is chomping at the bit, to throw these despicable arse-clowns out of power and to forget this whole disgraceful sorry episode, over the last eight years, of AMerican history.
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Mantango | 01.03.08 - 12:46 pm | #

Mantango | 01.03.08 - 12:46 pm

Then the country better do something right and NOT vote for the Hill and Bill dog and pony show. Often I wonder, why she doesn't come out of the closet, admit it like a good ReTHUG, shed some fake tears, and look at the extra votes she would get!!!!!

She is more ReThuglican than GDubya and Darth Cheney put together.
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 12:52 pm | #

Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 12:22 pm

The republicans of New Hampshire have objected and are currently "in negotiations" with Fox.
claudo | 01.03.08 - 12:53 pm | #

The G Dawg | 01.03.08 - 12:27 pm | #

How about some pictures you took yourself? That last one is a nice promo shot of the Cafe du Monde must bring in a lot of business. Have you actually ever been there?
Jennifer | 01.03.08 - 1:00 pm | #

She is more ReThuglican than GDubya and Darth Cheney put together.
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 12:52 pm |

Now I don't like Hillary either but I wouldn't go that far.
Doug D | 01.03.08 - 1:01 pm | #

NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 1:06 pm |

I can see your point, and I think that electing her will give us more of the same. I hope she doesn't win tonight but I do fear she might.
Doug D | 01.03.08 - 1:11 pm | #

I can see your point, and I think that electing her will give us more of the same. I hope she doesn't win tonight but I do fear she might.
Doug D | 01.03.08 - 1:11 pm
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I do too and I'm afraid you're on the right track too :(

Even if she does not win tonight, she's slated to win the nomination and hence the Presidency. If she does, and if this country and it's people deserve nothing better than the status quo, I hope and pray that Bill Clinton has 256 vindictive bones in his body.

If this country in going to plunge headfirst into the third world, I want to do that with a smile on my face.
Abby | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 1:19 pm | #

Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 10:27 am | #

Hey, they're not my hounds.
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 1:21 pm | #

john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 12:45 pm | #

Seconded.
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 1:23 pm | #

"This country is absolutely disgusted with so-called conservatism which has become synonymous with "having no class" (as illustrated by Doocy's comments, which are all to typical in conservative punditry), stupidity, incompetence, cowardace, and failure."

The trolls who come here lately aptly represent this new "conservativism" which has a lot in share with Animal House binge drinking.

john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 1:05 pm | #

Ooops, didn't get to your post yet.

Dawgy - yeah, do what he said.
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 1:27 pm | #

I'm not a big Hillary fan, but Douchebag has no room to talk!
liberal lad | 01.03.08 - 1:59 pm | #

I'm not a big Hillary fan, but Douchebag has no room to talk!
liberal lad | 01.03.08 - 1:59 pm | #

Seriously. He looks like a beakless ostrich.
Marco | 01.03.08 - 2:15 pm | #

Hey G Doggy, Michael Vick is looking for you. How did you get out of the kennel?
larp | 01.03.08 - 2:15 pm | #

Does Leo really think he is fooling anyone? He is a dumb ass troll that comes on here and pretends to be a liberal and spout all kinds of outrages shit about republicans and F word News. Later he will be back with other sock puppets to highlight Leo's remarks and try to say liberals are hate filled and post vile things. Leo, kiss my ass. There I feel better.
larp | 01.03.08 - 2:22 pm | #

Note to Brian Killmeade. I've been a Political Junkie since the Seventies and I do not remember Robert Novak EVER being right in one of his "Inside Sources Say" Predictions. Ask former President Phil Grahmm how accurate Novak can be with his "locks". You picked the one person in the world even more likely to get it wrong then you are. Nice job...
Not THAT Jack | 01.03.08 - 2:27 pm | #

Not THAT Jack | 01.03.08 - 2:27 pm | #

Novak isn't the only one that never got it right.

These neoclowns struck out everytime when going up to bat. These neoclowns never caught the ball when out on the playing field and when the pick up the ball from the ground they seem to always throw the ball into the stands thus losing the play.

In spite of all that the media still has these neoclowns on the payroll.

One guy actually had it right and that was Phil Donahue when he was at the peak rating and aired antiwar advocates. Phil was booted out immediately. But a low rated hack like Glen Beck who is at the bottom of the barrel gets chance after chance to spew lunatic rants of the right.

Go figure.
Free Speech | 01.03.08 - 2:39 pm | #

I SAY: PASS THE DOOCY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE!
General Escape Goat | 01.03.08 - 3:01 pm | #

I've got Repub relatives in Iowa and Thompson is the butt of their jokes. I think they actually despise him, his lame remarks and his wimpy attempt to become President.
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dd | 01.03.08 - 11:49 am |

Bears repeating. This is the guy all the XCons were calling the 'best'. Then they discovered he ain't so hot and they despise him because of that.
Hell hath no fury like a XCon scorned.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 3:24 pm | #

Running as the only candidate that's appeared on two episodes of, "Matlock" can only get you so far.
General Escape Goat | 01.03.08 - 3:27 pm | #

SO now getting predictions wrong is a crime? Who knew?
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 3:20 pm | #
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no one said its a crime - but they do have a point to make if novak is consistently wrong

its fair
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:28 pm | #

larp | 01.03.08 - 2:22 pm | #

Leo is probably an O'Reilley troll pretending to be a liberal thus giving O'Shithead ammunition to fire at the 'Far left,looney blogs.' :)
Oklad B.C. Canada | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:29 pm | #

SO now getting predictions wrong is a crime? Who knew?
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 3:20 pm | #

Overreacting a bit, aren't we? It's not a crime, but his credibility is in the toilet. Try to focus.
FrankC | 01.03.08 - 3:31 pm | #

Oklad B.C. Canada | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:29 pm | #

This is a tactic they've used in the past - place an agitator in the crowd to cause a problem then stand back and say "see how they are!"

Problem is, in an age when the right (and left) have no reluctance whatsover to do anything underhanded (witness the behavior of the loathsome POTUS) it's very easy to load forums with troll droppings (made up personas aka "troll sockpuppets" posting pretend comments) disguised as real people. Unless they perform outright spoofing this tactic can be undetectable. Yet another reason we must remain the land of the free and BRAVE - something trolls, neocons, and the reactionary right are NOT.
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:40 pm | #

Impartial observer | 01.03.08 - 3:42 pm | #

And what was your last sock puppet name?
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:45 pm | #

"Annoying as hell but children very often are."

Why do you come here then?

Answer: You are mentally ill.
Satan | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:45 pm | #

Duncan Hunter wasn't invited either but I don't see him whining. Paul wasn't invited because he doesn't register in the national pools.

Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 12:22 pm | #
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Duncan Hunter can barely reach 1% in the polls. Ron Paul has polled higher than Fred Thompson yet Thompson was invited to join the Fox news Debate and Paul wasn't. From Fox news' own website:

FOXNEWS.COM: RON PAUL, THE REAL REPUBLICAN?

Ron Paul has a core set of principles that guide him. They happen to be the same principles envisioned by the framers of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, federalism, free trade and commerce -- with a premium on peace.

For the few of us who still care about limited government, individual rights, and a sensible foreign policy, Paul's candidacy is terrific news.

Paul's presence in the race is important because he'll put issues on the table *that would otherwise be completely ignored*.

His presence in the primary debates alone will make them far more substantive and interesting than they've been in a generation.

Ron Paul can reliably and credibly serve as the party's conscience.

Paul's bona fides on immigration, abortion, federalism, constitutionalism, and limited government will win him credibility with and respect from primary voters, giving him leverage to take principled stands.

Paul can credibly lay claim to the legacy of the Reagan-Goldwater revolution.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,252847,00.html

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:47 pm | #

I wouldn't count Hillary out so quick.The liberal media wants her and her husband back in the White House and they're going to keep trying to get her their even if they have to shove the Clintons down our throats.That's why they're already going into spin mode about how it isn't really that bad if she finishes 3rd today.
Jamie Adams | 01.03.08 - 3:49 pm | #

CLINTON CAMP PRE-SPINNING POSSIBLE BAD NEWS IN IOWA
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/T...=4076176& page=1

Hillary already knows she is finished in Iowa and here is the proof. Goodbye Hillary. The funny thing is that all the left-wing liberals and Hillary thought she was going to win the White House just 2 months ago. Now, not only isn't she going to the White House, she isn't even going to win the Democratic nomination. From hero to zero in less that 2 months. She impoded just like Dean did.
Keith in Mass. | 01.03.08 - 3:49 pm | #

The liberal media wants her

Jamie Adams | 01.03.08 - 3:49 pm | #
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Oh please. The collective media has undeniably been the toughest on Hillary Clinton. There is no Candidate that they love to bash more than her.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:52 pm | #

Claudo 9:32...go to Youtube! and enter Trump-Iraq or Trump-Bush...there is a spendid 3 or 4 minute long interview with Trump, in which he ever so bluntly views his opinion on how Bush lied to all Americans, and how we invaded the wrong country, and how Bush has not funded the returning troops adequately, etc. It's a really good piece.
Fox state run television | 01.03.08 - 3:54 pm | #

Oh please. The collective media has undeniably been the toughest on Hillary Clinton. There is no Candidate that they love to bash more than her.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:52 pm | #

Agreed, which makes me want to root for her. Wasn't it Dana Millbank from Wapo who said last week the media hates her?

Something to that affect.
Marco | 01.03.08 - 3:57 pm | #

Fox&Fiends clearly have never been "down on the farm"...or to any small town livestock auction. It's normal protocol to fully inspect a live animal that you're about to bid on. Hillary was having fun with herself, she knows the locals and was making fun of herself just so the locals could have a good laugh. Must mean she is a secure woman.
Leave it to Douchy on Fox to spin the joke...really reminds me of some joke a 5th grader might come up with...this is Douchy's mindset.
Fox state run television | 01.03.08 - 3:59 pm | #

Hillary already knows she is finished

Goodbye Hillary.

Keith in Mass. | 01.03.08 - 3:49 pm | #
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I have news for you. Iowa is 1 of 50 states and Iowa was never a state that her campaign was focused upon or expected to win.

Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and some other Republicans either ignored Iowa completely or are polling very poorly in Iowa.

Do you also say that THEY are
"finished"? Are you saying "Goodbye" to them? You've got someone like Mitt Romney spending more of his own money than Steve Forbes spent and yet Mitt has been passed up by someone who was polling only 2% in the polls a couple of months ago.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 3:59 pm | #

I think if the Media was as Liberal as all the gumps say it is, Kucinich would be the person they'd be pushing.
General Escape Goat | 01.03.08 - 3:59 pm | #

Romney is S-L-I-C-K...and he hates that Huckelberry is polling higher than him, even though, in the words of Huckelberry..."we have a rowboat, they (Romney) have a Navy".
Fox state run television | 01.03.08 - 4:02 pm | #

what exactly does this have to do whether or not he's registering in the polls or not

Jamie Adams | 01.03.08 - 3:53 pm | #
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First, Ron Paulhas been polling higher than several other Republican Candidates.

Second, Ron Paul has won several GOP Debates.

Third, he has broken GOP Fundraising Records.

Fourth, by Fox news' own criteria, Ron Paul qualifies to be be included in their debate.

Fifth, do you have a problem with him being included in their Debate?

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:05 pm | #

Where's the VIDEO? Oh that's right! It's on J$Place! Go there to see the real truth that the MUTTS don't want you, their tail chasing minon's, to know. Another fine SMACKDOWN of the MUTTS and another FINE EXAMPLE of why chasing your tail and sniffing Ellen's BUTT get's you IDIOT'S nothing but fumes of STUPIDITY! You MUTT follower's are the DUMBEST lot known to MANKIND. LMAO
JCMS | 01.03.08 - 4:07 pm | #

For you tail chasing MUTTS. TROLLS= TRUE REPUBLICANS OUTING LYING LIBERAL SCUMS. You freakin' MUTT TROLLS. Thank you for admiting you really vote REPUBLICAN. LMAO
JCMS | 01.03.08 - 4:09 pm | #

LMAO
JCMS | 01.03.08 - 4:07 pm | #

I know I am -- at you.

No more soup for you!
ufoshadow | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:10 pm | #

T4:07 translation??????? anyone have the Rosetta Stone "mindless idiot" edition?
Fox state run television | 01.03.08 - 4:11 pm | #

WOW!!! I didn't know that Iowa determined who would be nominated. Why do all those other states even bother?

BTW Keith in Mass./ G-Dawg, I thought you were in New Orleans.
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:12 pm | #

Perhaps it is trying to say that the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe, since there's so many of the darn things in the post.
ufoshadow | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:13 pm | #

JCMS is Ralph, note the upper case typing.
FrankC | 01.03.08 - 4:13 pm | #

what exactly does this have to do whether or not he's registering in the polls or not

Jamie Adams | 01.03.08 - 3:53 pm |

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Ron Paul Demolishes Other Republicans In Online Polls

http://majorityrights.com/index....n_online_polls/

Ron Paul places 2nd in FOX NEWS POLL:

— 29% Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney

— 25% Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas

— 19% Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani

— 8% Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee

— 5% Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif. Hunter

— 4% Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

— 3% Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

— 1% Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.

— 0% Former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore

— 0% Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson

http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,272493,00.html

FOXNEWS.COM: Ron Paul Collecting Fans, Big Money

WASHINGTON — Those who dismissed Rep. Ron Paul as a joke in the Republican presidential primary campaign aren't laughing so hard these days.

The Texas libertarian's rise in the polls and in fundraising proves that a small but passionate number of Americans can be drawn to an advocate of unorthodox proposals such as returning to the gold standard and abolishing the income tax, CIA and Federal Reserve.

Paul recently set a one-day, online GOP presidential fundraising record, and pulled slightly ahead of Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee in a New Hampshire poll. In Iowa, he tied John McCain.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/ 200...RonPaul,00.html

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:15 pm | #

hey - you guys dont need to answer to Keith in Mass - this was the guy who yesterday called all black people convicts and then said - all black convicts should be shot to do the nation a favour

he has nothing of value to add
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:19 pm | #

Do you want to know the big shocker? He is a black inmate ... imagine that.

Hopefully the police kill this scumbag when they catch him and they just say that he came at them with a weapon. He is another worthless black inmate that serves no purpose in society and should be killed.
Keith in Mass. | 01.02.08 - 3:27 pm | #
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there you go - daily shot of his racist drivel
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:21 pm | #

Paige PbD,
You link is very, very old. Nice try.
Keith in Mass. | 01.03.08 - 4:22 pm | #

You link is very, very old. Nice try.
Keith in Mass. | 01.03.08 - 4:22 pm | #
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your racism is even older!
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:23 pm | #

Paige is hysterical. She is posting polling links about Dodd which are 6 months old. Not only are you funny, you are very stupid also.

Maybe you should post some polling data from a year ago.

Too Funny!
Keith in Mass. | 01.03.08 - 4:24 pm | #

hysterical. She is posting polling links about Dodd

Keith in Mass. | 01.03.08 - 4:24 pm | #

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talk about "hysterical", "stupid" and "funny"...

WHERE in ANY of my above posts am I talking about "DODD"?

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:27 pm | #

Y'know the more that NChomsky vilely and idiotically rants the more I want to vote for Hillary.
It's a laugh that people come on here saying the NHs support Hillary. AFAIK, I'm the only one who has ever said that they will (probably) vote for Hillary.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 4:29 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:27 pm |

That's what I was trying to figure out. But then I remembered some of Keith's comments and thought, "oh, yeah, a racist idiot, just ignore him."
radmod | 01.03.08 - 4:30 pm | #

Keith in Mass. is G-Dawg that's supposedly on a drunkfest in New Orleans.
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:32 pm | #

radmod | 01.03.08 - 4:29 pm | #
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people always seem to make their minds up about who to vote for - and then thatsw it - i would never vote for hillary they say

but... lets have a scenario - lets say huckabee gets the republican nomination, and lets say bloomie doesnt run - that leaves a hillary / huckabee / race - im definatly voting for hillary in that case

lets say romney wins (lets remember how proudly romney touted his endorsement by everyones favorite racist tom tancredo) and bloomie doesnt run - so its a romney / hillary race

im definatly voting hillary

but lets say its a romney / hillary / bloomberg race - im voting bloomburg in a heartbeat

if its a huckabee / hillary / ron paul goes independant race - im voting for ron paul

the race is fluid - it would be wrong for me to say i would never vote for hillary - but it would take something like a scary huckabee presidency to make me do it

everything in perspective
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:34 pm | #

Hey Republican Ron Paul haters...

WHY do you suppose he has been winning Republican Debates?

WHY do you suppose he has broken Republican fundraising recrods?

WHY are his fellow Republicans saying that HE is the real Conservative?

WHY is he polling higher than other Republican Candidates if he is so wrong for your Party?

Say what you mean. You guys don't like him because he actually has the balls to publicly criticize the person most Americans see as THE WORST President we've ever had, George W. Bush. Fox News doesn't like that he gets so much support and applause at Republican Debates.

If you want to continue to support the cross-dressing Republican who has been married 3x, including a marriage of 14 years to his own cousin, that's your prerogative. :)

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:36 pm | #

Not that there's anything WRONG with being Republican...

:-)
ufoshadow | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:37 pm | #

They showed a poll were Paul was ahead of Rudy. Rudy was in last place.
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:39 pm | #
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rudy was my choice for a long time - he is hurting tho

and its because he hasnt managed to show any diversity of thought beyond 9/11 - much to my sadness

so im back to where i was in 2000 - supporting McCain again

and you know what - i think McCain would still make a great president
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:40 pm | #

ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:40 pm |

He would have to do alot of wooing to win me back over. Once bitten, twice shy as they say.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 4:46 pm | #

radmod | 01.03.08 - 4:46 pm | #
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let the wooing begin!!
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:47 pm | #

WHY do you suppose he has been winning Republican Debates? Because they are not valid polls?

WHY do you suppose he has broken Republican fundraising recrods? Money doesn't always win. Ask Howard Dean.

WHY are his fellow Republicans saying that HE is the real Conservative? He is more libertarian than conservative.

WHY is he polling higher than other Republican Candidates if he is so wrong for your Party? What are his national numbers? 4-5% maybe?
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 4:49 pm | #

Republican trolls and Fox news hosts don't like a Republican Candidate who has the following Voting Record/Positions on Issues:

RON PAUL:

Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record.

Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer.

Rated 76% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record.

Rated A by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record

Federal duty to provide missile defense

Abolish federal Medicare entitlement

Limit federal power, per the 10th Amendment

Supports Balanced Budget Amendment & on-budget accounting

No affirmative action for any group

Voted YES on banning gay adoptions

Opposes "hate crimes" legislation

Immigration problem is consequence of welfare state.

Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration

Rated 89% by NTU, indicating a "Taxpayer's Friend" on tax votes

Non-intervention is traditional American & Republican policy

Constitution was written to restrain the federal government.

No UN, No North American Union; No WTO

Rated 5% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes.

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Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:49 pm | #

Which is, incidentally, why I *don't* like Ron Paul.

Not that it matters much, in my acse, as he likely will not be the nominee.

Kim, Pb.D | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:52 pm | #

Paige PbD | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:49 pm | #
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lol paige that was fantastic

yes ron paul is a conservative
he just isnt a neo-con - which really isnt conservative anyways

you got it backwards hound, its your thats not the conservative
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:52 pm | #

ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:34 pm | #
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Are you no longer supporting McCain?

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Although I would prefer to avoid another Clinton White House, the misogyny of Fox is appalling. If someone has a problem with Hillary's voting record or policy platform, (like me), that's fine, but attacking her for being a woman reveals much more about the people doing the bashing then it does about Hillary.

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Michelle | 01.03.08 - 4:52 pm | #

oh im definatly supporting McCain,

im praying, and doing indian rain dances, using buddhist prayer beads, anything i can in the hopes that its a McCain nomination
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:55 pm | #

You must HATE Hilliary. You can't even get her main man's named SPELLED RIGHT! LOL Look it up you dumbass!
I'm 4 hilliary | 01.03.08 - 5:03 pm | #

McCain won't make it - he doesn't have nearly enough divorces for the party of moral relativity.
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Robrob | 01.03.08 - 5:03 pm | #

Robrob | 01.03.08 - 5:03 pm | #
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comeone rob bush jr was never divorced!!
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:04 pm | #

You must HATE Hilliary. You can't even get her main man's named SPELLED RIGHT! LOL Look it up you dumbass!
I'm 4 hilliary | 01.03.08 - 5:03 pm
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What the hell was that all about? Could someone translate that?
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:07 pm | #

ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 4:55 pm |

So, ana, I'll let you do the wooing (just don't tell my wife).

My chief concerns are
1) While I understand politicians say things they don't always really mean in order to get votes (hence, I read between the lines on what Hillary says) I have a huge problem with people like McCain who go running to extremists, namely the radical right University he originally criticized. Likewise, wasn't it McCain who should've but did not chastise the woman who called Hillary a 'bitch'?

2) Can McCain reign in the radical right which seems to be what the right has become? I have a real problem voting for any Republican nowadays, even though I know it's not McCain's fault.

3) I liked the Clinton era. I can't see why it won't be about the same with Hillary.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:08 pm | #

I'm 4 hilliary | 01.03.08 - 5:03 pm |

Says the person who can't even spell Hillary correctly.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:11 pm | #

Likewise, wasn't it McCain who should've but did not chastise the woman who called Hillary a 'bitch'?
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yes he should have - but is that enough to let a presidency fall?

2) Can McCain reign in the radical right which seems to be what the right has become? I have a real problem voting for any Republican nowadays, even though I know it's not McCain's fault.

i thnk he is the only man who can at the moment - he is not an idealist

3) I liked the Clinton era. I can't see why it won't be about the same with Hillary.

i dont think McCain is too far off what clinton did during his presidency
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:11 pm | #

ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:11 pm |

on 3) I agree.
I have felt the country is actually best served when Congress is controlled by one party and the Presidency by another. Thus a Dem Clinton and a Rep Congress seemed to be working somewhat. However, that has changed with the extreme partisanship hence Dems, besides being weaklings, can't get anything done due to obstructionism. At this time, I would like to see the Dems in charge of two of the three branches just to try to undo the damage of this idiot we have now.

Case in point: Until Bush became President I would never, even in casual conversation, call the Prez an idiot. And I went through the Reagan years!
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:15 pm | #

Oh, and in case you missed it, I'm a dissatisfied voter.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:16 pm | #

I agree with most of radmod's post, but the problem I have with McCain is his repeatedly caving to the neocons.

I lost respect when McCain embraced Bush after the fiasco in the Carolinas.

I became disgusted when McCain folded for the White House on torture.

And all respect was gone when I read that McCain has more lobbyist support than any other candidate, Rep or Dem, despite holding himself forth as being for campaign finance reform.

I think McCain would say or do anything to be president, and I don't want a leader who goes which ever way the wind blows. I want a leader who has the courage of their convictions, takes a stand and defends it. I don't think McCain has the courage.

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Michelle | 01.03.08 - 5:16 pm | #

"i dont think McCain is too far off what clinton did during his presidency"

ana coachella,

Probably but what the RNC needs is another crushing defeat in 2008. They didn't join the reality based world when they lost the House, the Senate and the majority of Gov. Only when they have lost the Presidency will they rejoin the normal folks.
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Robrob | 01.03.08 - 5:16 pm | #

radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:15 pm | #
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i can understand your frustration

in 8 years after McCain wins -(if he does) lets resume this convo and remark on how right we could have been!
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:17 pm | #

john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:07 pm |

Who knows? Just a drive by idiot.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:17 pm | #

Robrob | 01.03.08 - 5:16 pm |

I have a tendency to believe Robrob is correct.
The pattern of history tells us that things tend to be pendulum-like swinging from right to left and back again but tending, overall, to settle nearer to the middle each time. The right needs a crushing defeat and 8 more years of a "damned" Clinton to move back towards the center (the correct place, IMHO).
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:19 pm | #

ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:17 pm |

I, for one, will give decent odds that McCain will win the Rep nomination. I don't think though he is energetic enough to win the Presidency. Time will tell (last time he didn't have enough time).
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:21 pm | #

I don't think McCain has a chance of winning. He's about 72yrs old and these days younger people are getting more involved in politics and voting.
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:29 pm | #

radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:21 pm | #
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you just made my day
:D
ana coachella | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:30 pm | #

john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 5:29 pm |

Sorry, john t, but we've been saying that for 30+ years now and it just ain't happening.
radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:44 pm | #

"The right needs a crushing defeat and 8 more years of a "damned" Clinton to move back towards the center (the correct place, IMHO)."

radmod,

Good pendulum analogy. The conservative 50's resulted in the liberal 60's. By their own excess the RW is going to cause another.
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Robrob | 01.03.08 - 5:58 pm | #

but attacking her for being a woman reveals much more about the people doing the bashing then it does about Hillary.

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Michelle | 01.03.08 - 4:52 pm

The problem is THAT is exactly the excuse her team will use if/when they lose. Reverse sexism.
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 6:54 pm | #

radmod | 01.03.08 - 5:44 pm

Look at the last 2 Presidents. They were no where close to 70yrs old.
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 7:10 pm | #

The problem is THAT is exactly the excuse her team will use if/when they lose. Reverse sexism.
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 6:54 pm | #
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Is it an excuse if it is true?

I am not a Hillary fan, but I will defend any woman attacked with sexist remarks.

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Michelle | 01.03.08 - 7:15 pm | #

Wonder if the Fiends will ask why Rudi9/11 wasn't in Iowa?

Giuliani only no-show in Iowa
By Claudia Parsons
Thu Jan 3, 3:23 PM ET
BEDFORD, New Hampshire (Reuters) - Rudy Giuliani was the only leading White House hopeful not in Iowa on Thursday as voters there kick off the process of choosing the next U.S. president, but he said he was not worried about missing it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ 20080...ics_giuliani_dc
mj | 01.03.08 - 7:30 pm | #

Just curious...with all the talk of who would be the BEST President in 08, who do you all think would be the WORST President for 08?
I think it would be (in order)...

1. Fred Thompson (hates women and is old enough to have quite possibly been a Klan member/supporter back in the 1950s, in his Deep South.)

2. Mitt Romney (lies out of both sides of his mouth and looks like a classic used car salesman with his greased-down hair and fake smile).

3. Rudy Guiliani (best exepemplifies the typical neo-con, plus has 9.11 "on the brain").

4. Hillary, yes Hillary (She is a complete and total Washington insider an also has very little if any foreign policy experience as a Senator from New York).

This is opinion of who's worst, who do you all think of would be the worst?
Fox state run television | 01.03.08 - 7:41 pm | #

mj 7:30...Tim Russert today said that Rudy being a no show in Iowa will severely hurt his chances in New Hampshire...and that if Rudy places 5th in the Granite State, he will be forgotten by the media, entirely out of the media cycle, and from that point on it's just a doomed campaign.
Fox state run television | 01.03.08 - 7:43 pm | #

Yes, that was a terrible thing he did. Printing her name AFTER he was told that there would be no problem.
Hound Watcher | 01.03.08 - 10:34 am | #

hw-LYING AGAIN!!!!!
gnusman53 | 01.03.08 - 7:47 pm | #

Is it an excuse if it is true?

I am not a Hillary fan, but I will defend any woman attacked with sexist remarks.

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Michelle | 01.03.08 - 7:15 pm

And you are right in doing so Michelle. But the Hill and Bill show has nothing to do with sexism, and everything to do with people sick and tired of the status quo in Washington. A vote for her would be just that. She is a corporate clown. Bought and paid for by the likes of Walmart, Coke, and Rupert Murdock. Matters not if she's female. At least not to me
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 7:52 pm | #

The Truth.
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/ ...e221084935.html
Anonymous | 01.03.08 - 8:14 pm | #

She is neither live stock nor a person of Iowa - she is an old black southern woman - remember "a body sure does get tired."

Hilliary is whatever she thinks her audience wants her to be; therefore, she is nothing.
kahanelives! | 01.03.08 - 8:41 pm | #

she is an old black southern woman - remember "a body sure does get tired."

kahanelives! | 01.03.08 - 8:41 pm | #
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Is that like Bush using the fake Texas drawl?
john t | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 9:23 pm | #

Bought and paid for by the likes of Walmart, Coke, and Rupert Murdock. Matters not if she's female. At least not to me
NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 7:52 pm
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Not to mention by the entire war profiteering industry.

But, bowing down the fact that only an anti-American criminal can be elected to the highest office in America, I'm willing to go with Hillary on the condition that Bill uses his influence to extract some payback.

That famous "liberal hate" has begun to spout roots now.
Abby | Homepage | 01.03.08 - 9:29 pm | #

NChomsky | 01.03.08 - 7:52 pm | #
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So if Hillary gets the nod from Dems, who will you vote for? Does it depend on who the Reps run, or will you go independent?

I myself am so over the staus quo bullshit, but all I see in the candidates is same old, same old.

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Michelle | 01.03.08 - 10:17 pm | #

Hilliary is whatever she thinks her audience wants her to be; therefore, she is nothing.
kahanelives! | 01.03.08 - 8:41 pm | #
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In other words she is a politician. They are ALL like used car salemen.. They are all lying about one thing or another.

All we can do is hope they can implement even half of what they promise.
hoode | 01.04.08 - 7:07 am | #

she is an old black southern woman - remember "a body sure does get tired."

kahanelives! | 01.03.08 - 8:41 pm | #
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Oh for chrissakes this is jsut as dishonest as calling Deans cheer rage as the pundits on TV did. it wasnt rage at all and it was EVIDENT it wasnt rage. It was cheerleading his group.

Clinton was READING FROM A TEXT. THE PERSON IN THE TEXT WAS an old southern black woman..

Stop with the bullshit.

Was she supposed to read it in a New Hampshire accent??

tool
hoode | 01.04.08 - 7:11 am | #

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