maybe just a way fo a new gruoip to get a brand name in prime ime usa news tv ? fox news and gurreila gruop will both benefits it , i guss they know the profile of fox news just like we knoe al jazirea
dsf | 08.16.06 - 5:35 pm | #

I don't know why Foxnews is staying silent?? If I were them, I would be using my station to yell from the mountaintop for the release of both men.
Gary | 08.16.06 - 5:51 pm | #

If there's no ransom demands, it might not be about ransom. Perhaps they wanted the hostages themselves, to talk to them about slanted TV coverage or something.
Alex Thorpe | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 5:54 pm | #

Sadly, these guys may pay the ultimate price for the constant anti-Muslim propaganda that Fox 'News' airs. Will Sean Hannity be proud of himself if his rhetoric gets one of his colleagues killed?
Dana | 08.16.06 - 5:57 pm | #

You would think that Sean Hannity and Bill O'reily would be the first two to head over and find them. I mean, they do love war right? They are righteous individuals right? Why not save their fellow chickenhawk?
Zed | 08.16.06 - 5:59 pm | #

In fact, the troll on this website should go out hunting for them like true Patriots would. Or do they have some solid excuse as to why they can't?
Zed | 08.16.06 - 6:00 pm | #

Zed | 08.16.06 - 6:00 pm | #

Fear?


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uk_dave | 08.16.06 - 6:01 pm | #

But what about not negotiating with "terrorists?"
claudo | 08.16.06 - 6:15 pm | #

A lack of ranson demands is very frightening.



Kim, Pb.D | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 6:15 pm | #

Lack of ransom demands.

Four things:

1) The kidnappers are not too smart and don't understand the whole "demands-resolve" thing.

2) It's not about ransom,but a statement to Fox. A possibly violent statement.

3) There wasn't a kidnapping at all.

4) The two coorespondents got lost in some backwater area. Could have been an accident too,adn no one has found them yet.

It all is very strange IMO. As of now I'm discounting the third option(thought I'm positive in my belief that Fox is capable of a stunt like that) simply because the others at the moment outweigh that one. So I guess it could be three options right now for me.
Yakki | 08.16.06 - 6:20 pm | #

Deleted. Off topic.

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DeadEyeDick | 08.16.06 - 6:27 pm | #

It may be that Fox's silence is corporate driven to reduce risk and liability to their enterprise and to effect a good outcome the situeation.
papawheeli | 08.16.06 - 6:34 pm | #

Actually Brit Hume just mentioned it. There was also B roll of an Israeli producer named Elie and Jennifer Griffith.
lacey | 08.16.06 - 6:37 pm | #

It may be that Fox's silence is corporate driven to reduce risk and liability to their enterprise and to effect a good outcome the situeation.
papawheeli | 08.16.06 - 6:34 pm | #

It's really odd - the other networks don't seem to be covering it at all - unlike Jill Caroll's kidnapping.
claudo | 08.16.06 - 6:43 pm | #

You know that even thou it is some of their crew, this story will disappear in about 15 20 from now

Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey case

It on CNN website right now
edfromned | 08.16.06 - 6:58 pm | #

Interesting to see if Murdick will pay any ransom demands. The Italians paid and the journalists were returned, albeit they all didn't make it out alive due to being shot dead at the checkpoint . .

But I'm curious to see if Murdick will pay 'cause although it's not being publicized, the Iraqis who kidnapped these 2 fox employees have asked for money . .
Liz PbD | 08.16.06 - 6:59 pm | #

So seeing that I live in Boulder I'll probably auction off the pleasure of paying me to go throw red paint on the Fox news anchor's and crew when they show up.

Probably next week when the guy is arraigned.

Or for a better price I'll mace the fucker's
edfromned | 08.16.06 - 7:12 pm | #

Deleted.

Obnoxious comments, completely without redeeming social value.



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don | 08.16.06 - 7:27 pm | #

You people are truly sick....
Watchbird | 08.16.06 - 8:03 pm | #

You people are truly sick....
Watchbird | 08.16.06 - 8:03 pm
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That's a way to go!

Come on here and state everything your mind is capable of handling.

You did your nights work. Good job.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 8:14 pm | #

Deleted for unfeeling senitment.

Sorry, Liz, but these guys might be in real danger. - MT

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Liz PbD | 08.16.06 - 8:36 pm | #

You did your nights work. WTF? For that loser you should of at least given him a gold star
Anonymous | 08.16.06 - 8:36 pm | #

Deleted. Obnoxious offensive sentiments.

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leone | 08.16.06 - 8:54 pm | #

Fox News doesn't want to admit just how much more dangerous Bush has made the situation in the Middle East, including in Palestine, where Bush helped Hammas to be the winners in their recent elections in Palestine.
Paige | 08.16.06 - 9:23 pm | #

Yet they just talked about it on Fox not 30 minutes ago.
Johnthebaptist | 08.16.06 - 9:10 pm
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Isn't that something. The topic was posted at 4:50pm.

And you're saying they just talked about it at 8:30pm+.

Do you think the moderator can predict the future.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 9:56 pm | #

Fox wants to keep a low profile on this one for the saftey of their crew. I hope I'm wrong but this is not a case of "no news is good news".
Biors | 08.16.06 - 9:59 pm | #

just didn't see it and made a statement that cannot be backed up.
Johnthebaptist | 08.16.06 - 10:04 pm | #
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Now you back up your claim that they talked about it before 4:50pm. and the moderator is wrong.

Do you see the hypocrisy?
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:13 pm | #

Johnthebaptist

come on Dollar are you going to back up your claim?
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:19 pm | #

Johnthebaptist | 08.16.06 - 10:18 pm
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Hey Dollar, that's on their web-site. We weren't talking about their web-site.
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I think that they would have had to have watched Fox news 24x7 to make a assertion that Fox did not report on it again.
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See, that was your statement. You watch TV. Now prove that they reported it on one of their "TV" programs.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:24 pm | #

BTW, the story on their web-site was the same one they had on there Monday.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:26 pm | #

I guess that wasn't the same story.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:28 pm | #

Johnthebaptist |

Yeah, go ahead and spin it Dollar you knew damn well what they meant.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:30 pm | #

I saw the report on the normal 'every 30 minutes news' which is repeated over and over its
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Prove that Dollar.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:31 pm | #

I'm sorry, but this whole thing is starting to smell like a hoax. It IS highly unusual for no demands to be made, and for no one to claim responsibility. These terrorist groups always make demands or at least claim responsibility,etc. This is very unusual, to say the least.
Bill O'Reilley is Canadian | 08.16.06 - 10:35 pm | #

No, you're the one spinning it Dollar. Like I said, you knew damn well what she meant.

And what about this?

"so quick to doubt Fox and your government"

WOW, so you're finally admitting Fox is the government's network.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 10:43 pm | #

Johnthebaptist | 08.16.06 - 10:27 pm | #
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LOL! Whoa, Johnny $ get analer and analer.

"...It's posted on their site, they did not specifically say "TV"."

A classic of Johnny Dollar "miss the forest from the trees" analizm. One of his best!

You're not allowed to ever listen to Lush Limpbaugh's ascinine and idiotic and unlistenable and did I say ascinine(?) one-way word-parsing (and distorting) again... ya hear? It's effected your brain.
Biors | 08.16.06 - 11:04 pm | #

I saw the report on the normal 'every 30 minutes news' which is repeated over and over its a good it again and the 'moderator' just didn't see it and
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Do you see what you wrote Dollar?

First of all prove it was on.

"bet that they did in fact talk about"

Do they talk on a web-site? I didn't see any video on their site.

So right there proves you wrong Dollar. You knew damn well she was talking about on their show.

But you just wanted to nit pik.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 11:19 pm | #

BTW, Dollar I'm done with you. You can spin your head completely off your shoulders for all I care.
john t | Homepage | 08.16.06 - 11:22 pm | #

Now on to john t. prove I didn't see it on fox news, prove that the report wasnt posted on fox website on tuesday, and then prove that her statement, without adding to it is true.
Johnthebaptist | 08.16.06 - 11:28 pm | #

*like
Yakki | 08.16.06 - 11:40 pm | #

I have no idea. I haven't been following this one.

As of now I'm trying to decide what I think about it all.

To be honest,I haven't really made a decision on what is possibly real,and what is fake. There are a lot of variables that don't add up in relation to this kidnapping.
Yakki | 08.16.06 - 11:55 pm | #

I see j¢ trying, yet again, and failing, yet again, to paint the NH gals in a bad light. If you want to be technical j¢ she said it has not been covered by Fox News. She did not say that it was not covered by FOXNews.com, did she? (If you can nit, I can pick)

They are two separate identities. As well you know Fox often will report something on their website that they don't report on TV. Especially things that they want to make seem 'fair,' or things, its seems, they don't want their audience to really know.

Now, AFAIK, this site's primary goal is to "watch FOX so you don't have to." It is not "read FOXNews.com so you don't have to." If it was, it would take more than, what, a half dozen or so hard working gals to do?
radmod | 08.17.06 - 12:01 am | #

Everyone, please stop arguing over nonsense. The important facts are that two people are missing and are likely in grave danger. Not whether Fox may or may not have mentioned them between Monday & Wednesday.

Certainly Fox has not given that story the same coverage as they gave the plane diverted to Boston Wednesday morning. My guess is they don't want to give the kidnappers any more attention than necessary when there's no hard news to report. If they bluster too much or give one group publicity when it's actually another it could lead to the deaths of their colleagues.

I don't remember any demands from Jill Carroll's captors the first few days after she was kidnapped either. My recollection is that they waited until they had broken her a bit so they could tape her making the demands.
True Blue (State) Patriot | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 12:04 am | #

I agree, TBP. Quite frankly, they should give it no coverage up until the joyous return home (hopefully).
radmod | 08.17.06 - 12:06 am | #

Then they can go back to their usual spinning like "How Bush got the reporters home safe."
radmod | 08.17.06 - 12:07 am | #

I like this quote better:

We want to express yet again our sincere hope that both men are returned, unharmed, very soon, to the love and care of their respective families.

/agreed
mmmmk | 08.17.06 - 12:16 am | #

I love it how when someone disagrees with the newshounds he gets accused of being me! Amazing the obsession people around here seem to have with me.

By the way on this niggling point:

"FOX News has not covered the story since the initial reports on Monday"

False. It was covered on The Fox Report on Tuesday.

Now if you want to accuse ME of being Johnny Dollar, I will readily admit same.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 1:15 am | #

Johnthebaptist | 08.17.06 - 12:13 am |

No, I didn't ignore your previous post, I ignored your logic since it was incorrect. There is no logical correlation between pulling something off the net (likely the first entry) and reporting what Fox News had not said on the air. If she had reported that MSNBC had mentioned on the air would that change anything? No.

And if you want to play this insipid little game, then you are a liar. See, you responded to me and claimed "btw thanks for posting the entire name." Since I did not do that then you are a liar, no?
radmod | 08.17.06 - 1:25 am | #

Radmod,

Isn't that something? Nobody mentioned Dollars whole name to him. But then look who suddenly appears.

Damn Dollar, you're no better than the low life trolls around here that go under numerous names.

You don't have to respond because I'm tired of listening to your spin.
john t | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 1:39 am | #

I've never seen such childish bickering back and forth over nothing as I've seen on today's threads. These are world topics, why reduce them to trivial personal b.s.?
Bill O'Reilley is Canadian | 08.17.06 - 1:42 am | #

I think it's sad when anyone gets hurt. However, exploiting tragedy and selling fear is a dangerous business.
chrispy | 08.17.06 - 2:02 am | #

Isn't it amazing that even though I said Jon Ramsey story would blow other news off the air, we have the learning impaired such a John two cents AKA JohnthetroophaterakaIhateAMeraica still here on this post talking to himself as no one but himself will talk to him except himself to himself but wil only argue with himselfreglkrekg;lkrgg

see even I can talk like Jonny Dollar.
edfromned | 08.17.06 - 2:07 am | #

Johnny Dollar wrote:
Amazing the obsession people around here seem to have with me.
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Isn't THAT the pot calling the kettle black!!!!
Ellen | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 2:42 am | #

Everyone -

Pleasae don't engage Johnny Dollar/John the Baptist/Truthteller.

He gets off on dragging out one or two tiny little nitpicky things and then if we don't change it to suit his taste, he runs over to his pathetic excuse for a site and calls us liars.

He is not worth anyone's time.

Most of his comments - written as JTB - have been (and will be) deleted.

His ISP has been banned but, like a moth to the flame, he just can't resist coming back.

The important thing about the post is the welfare of the two people who've been kidnapped.

As for proof that FOX has engaged in a news blackout, a guest was deliberately shut down on Monday and told "we aren't going to discuss that now". I saw it. I heard it. I just can't remember on which show it happened, which is why I didn't put it in the post. The message was clear as a bell. FOX wasn't going to talk about it on TV. And they did not talk about it until the USA Today story came out. Today (8/17) it been given the bare minimum of coverage, only a few sentences in the news updates and a few sentences by each of the hosts.

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Marie Therese | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 2:57 am | #

Sorry Marie T,
I just couldn't resist.
Ellen | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 3:28 am | #

One question is whether FNC reporters were singled out above others.
If they were, then this may be about the pro-Israel coverage.

I would hate to see them sacrificed (like our troops) because of the policies of those in control of our government and FNC.
curtis | 08.17.06 - 9:30 am | #

Maybe just maybe...FoxNews staged the kidnapping all by themselves to boost ratings.
Wouldn't that be a hoot?
Joe | 08.17.06 - 9:50 am | #

Why was what I said about Fox ratings deleted? Seems directly connected to the kidnappings to me.
DeadEyeDick | 08.17.06 - 11:24 am | #

As for proof that FOX has engaged in a news blackout, a guest was deliberately shut down on Monday and told "we aren't going to discuss that now". I saw it. I heard it. I just can't remember on which show it happened, which is why I didn't put it in the post.

Marie Therese 08.17.06 - 2:57 am

I saw that. I don't remember who the guest was, or what they were talking about, but I believe that happened on the O'Reilly Factor.
idkmon | 08.17.06 - 11:26 am | #

Well since fox has created a pack of rabid dogs to go on air every night and bark their vitriolic diatribes against anyone in the mid-east who isn't Israeli, I suppose they felt the need to rein them in on this occasion.


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uk_dave | 08.17.06 - 11:32 am | #

I am not Johnny Dollar, in fact I never heard of him until reading his name ON THIS THREAD but since you deleted all of my comments it really doesnt matter at this point does it... the reality is you can't stand when someone makes a valid point that counters your assertion so you delete or change it. good job.
Johnthebaptist | 08.17.06 - 11:36 am | #