Fox would have probably have more luck findng their jornalists if they hadn't constantly implied on-air that Palestinians are terrorists. They better hope that they didn't piss the kidnappers off really bad if they want to see these guys released safely.
william | 08.18.06 - 4:32 pm | #

I must admit I'm surprised Fox news hasn't lost MORE Journalists to kiddnappings/terrorism in the Middle East...God knows Fox's coverage of these Middle Eastern people reflects a Xenophobia and cultural insensitivity/malice that Executives at Faux News seem to wear on their lapels with pride.
william | 08.18.06 - 4:37 pm | #

I wish Olaf Wiig and Steve Centanni to be released swiftly and safely to their families.
Astro | 08.18.06 - 4:39 pm | #

Jennifer Griffin and Eric Burn would have been my first/logical guess of Fox Journalists that would suffer damaging repercusions for their Anti-Arab biased reporting but maybe the bad guys aren't thru yet...

Much better/Safer to work for CNN right Now
william | 08.18.06 - 4:43 pm | #

Maybe Fox can get Daniel Pearl's wife to help her.
Wait, Fox blamed Pearl for his own capture and execution because he wasn't with US troops.
Based on Fox's biased reporting, the captors are probably torturing them with valid news broadcasts from the BBC, ABC, CBS and re-runs of Bill O Reilly's stellar career with Entertainment Tonight.
Joe | 08.18.06 - 4:46 pm | #

I agree these reporters hopefully will be returned to their families soon safely, but their own On-Air Reporting/Journalistic Perspective/Angle to their stories made them targets overseas, and I don't think that point should be missed as it's fundamentally part of the issue/problem/challenge itself.
william | 08.18.06 - 4:49 pm | #

Journalist taken hostage in Gaza is usually just for money. This is a common practice in most lawless areas.
Moderate | 08.18.06 - 4:51 pm | #

Morons.

Fox is the outlet that beats the drum for the murder of all Muslims, of all colors, everywhere.

Would it not be prudent to have the plea for mercy broadcast via a terrorist-loving liberal media outlet like CNN?
Abby | 08.18.06 - 4:52 pm | #

Moderate....

Usually I would agree with you whole-heartidly...but this time I think it maybe more personal/ideologically driven than just a case of mere greed.
william | 08.18.06 - 4:54 pm | #

The McNaught plea for the return of her husband got a bigger viewing audience on BBC than on Fox. My friends elsewhere in the world don't bother with Fox (if it's available) and here in Canada it doesn't even make anything significant in the cable ratings.

Nobody quotes Fox News up here except Rachel Marsden and Ezra Levant
and even that pair is very marginal.

If only Fox broadcast the McNaught appeal, it would go unnoticed in the rest of the world. Frankly, many of us are waiting for Rupert to run out of money and let the thing implode for good. And good riddance it will be too!
David Elliott | 08.18.06 - 5:00 pm | #

These reporters safety is Fox News resonsibility NOT CNN's. If CNN wants to try to assist Fox, Bravo. If Al Jazeera wants to pitch in to help, also Bravo. With all the crap Fox News says about these other Media Outlets though I don't think Fox should be EXPECTING massive amounts of assistance. They have created many enemies (Poltical/Public/Private/and Individual)in their 10 years on the air, and maybe now what goes around has come around. (It's a Karma Thng )
william | 08.18.06 - 5:01 pm | #

David Elliott,

You have no idea how many of us Americans WISH we lived in Canada right now, instead of living under the Dark Oppresive Vision that the Bush Doctrine has created here in the United States. I am counting the days until this Vile Pestulance emenating from Washinton D/C. is either Irradicated, Neutered or Destroyed....

Hopefully on November 7th :):)
william | 08.18.06 - 5:08 pm | #

It's Friday so time for some tasteless/testless humor.

Rupert Murdoch is notoriusly known for being CHEAP. Perhaps these guys disappearance is more about reducing the bottom line( Severance Packages) at Fox News than it is about the Middle East Conflict....
william | 08.18.06 - 5:20 pm | #

You people really make me sick. These journalists are americans that were over there doing a job. Yes, they work for fox but they are two americans kidnapped. I even read one person saying "karma" got them where they are. If that is what you think, you are the ones that better look for "karma" to bite you in the a##. You people deserve to live in the middle east for about a year. If you survive the whole year, i guarantee when you return you will have a total new outlook and hopefully appreciate what we are having to fight for today. Freedom doesn't come without a price. Terrorists captured these journalists.
Jeb Bush 08 | 08.18.06 - 5:38 pm | #

You people really make me sick.
Jeb Bush 08 | 08.18.06 - 5:38 pm | #
______________________________
feel free to leave and feel healthy.
Count Istvan | Homepage | 08.18.06 - 5:42 pm | #

Jeb Americans doing their duty to be ridiculed by repugs.
John Kerry
Bob kerry
John Murtha The one who's a coward
Russ | Homepage | 08.18.06 - 5:58 pm | #

I hope they're safely returned. Count me among the group of liberals who are never out for blood regardless of who's it that's is being spilled.

From where I sit, it's just another fucking shame in a war that was never necessary to begin with.

And Hey Jeb, where you as sickened by Limbaugh's insensetivity towards Americans trapped in Lebanon as you are with what you've read here? Just wondering.
Anonymous | 08.18.06 - 6:02 pm | #

Jeb Bush,

If your BROTHER GWB wasn't constantly stirring SH-_T UP in the Middle East, these reporters would have had no reason to BE THERE. Fox's Slogan is "We Report, YOU Decide "...I guess the kidnappers decided...they hate Fox Reporters AND Fox News... Jeb, you should just get over it... and stick to trying to keep your daughter and son from getting in MORE trouble with Booze and Drugs..
william | 08.18.06 - 6:05 pm | #

i prey they will
be freed soon i hope
they dont behead them
and post video
i have a bad feeling that will happen.
maggie | 08.18.06 - 6:21 pm | #

I hope these folks make it home safely as well. But it sure is a switch to hear those on the right refering to newspeople as "just american 'journalists' doing their job"..instead of saying that they were un-american and got what was coming to them for being somewhere they shouldn't have been.
Bryan | 08.18.06 - 6:31 pm | #

I hope they are released soon.

But it's important to remember who they work for and what their employer stands for in the Muslim world. The things we do often comes back to haunt us.

I would hate these two people to die for Fox's skewed ideology. Everybody needs a job,adn for all we know they may not harbour the same sentiments as their editors.
Yakki | 08.18.06 - 6:32 pm | #

Apparently Jeb Bush (see above) can't spell, can't punctuate, can't capitalise.

Can't govern, either.

Congenital, perhaps?
David Elliott | 08.18.06 - 6:33 pm | #

You people really make me sick.
Jeb Bush 08 | 08.18.06 - 5:38 pm | #

Really? As opposed to virtually?

Poor little jeb.

Can't even find it in his heart to make a statement wishing for the safe release of the journalists.

I wonder why.

Could it be that jeb would like to see their murder on a video broadcast on al jazeera?

Then jeb can loudly proclaim how all muslims are evil.

Rational, normal people don't want this shit to continue. That includes those people in the mid-east.

Release the journalists safe and sound.

Don't play into the terrorist inspired rants of people like jeb.


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uk_dave | 08.18.06 - 6:37 pm | #

I am praying we don't get yet another gruesome beheading video.
I doubt everyone on FoxNews hates Muslims, so this would be unfair to kill them. There is always hate, even on other networks but this doesn't give people the right to behead everyone with a camera or a mic. We live under the rule of Law, and this is unlawful. Clearly there is no choice but to free the hostages and turn themselves in to the authorities.
jim | 08.18.06 - 6:40 pm | #

I suggest if Jeb is a real Patriot
he should buy a ticket along with Bill O'Reilly, Greta Van Susteran,
Julie Banderas,Brit Hume,Neil Cavuto,Jennifer Griffin,James Rosen,
Sean Hannity,Alan Colmes,Charles Krauthammer,Bill Kristol,Fred Barnes,
Harris Faulkner,Shepard Smith, Uma Pamarajeau, Brett Baier and the other pin heads at Fox News and GO RESCUE your buddies. Unless your afraid they
might shoot down your plane... Could Americas viewing audience get that lucky ??? Imagine the "FOX NEWS ALERT"
william | 08.18.06 - 6:44 pm | #

Jennifer Griffin is quite fair to Palestinians and appears to get great interviews with Palestinian leaders, including those who are forced by Israeli witch hunts to go underground. She would not have that access if she were preceived by Palestinians to be pro-Israel. To paint her as pro-Israel just doesn't jibe with her reports.
Franklin | 08.18.06 - 7:09 pm | #

Terrorists captured these journalists.
Jeb Bush 08 | 08.18.06 - 5:38 pm | #

Now you've lost me. What does "terrorists" mean? Is it about some things "they" do that we don't or is that just another name for Muslims?
Abby | 08.18.06 - 7:14 pm | #

I don't remember seeing any videos on Fox by the family of kidnapped civilians before? Didn't they argue that showing that sort of thing was tantamount to promoting the terrorists?
CropstarLondonUK | 08.18.06 - 7:30 pm | #

Nothing Fox does or does not do ON-Air should surprise its viewers. Only the most naive viewer would accept their programming as REAL Journalism
and NOT Political Propaganda..
william | 08.18.06 - 7:36 pm | #

C'mon Jeb Bush ‘08, I'm still waiting. I have to know why it was not “kidnappers” who have kidnapped these people. Is “terrorist” something you call a kidnapper who might be a Muslim?
Abby | 08.18.06 - 7:39 pm | #

Jennifer Griffin? Isn't she the one who said Nazareth was "home to the church and grotto where Mary was told by the angel Gabriel she would give birth to Jesus."

and referred to Ariel Sharon as "Israel's warrior"?

Since I don't really follow Fox's lineup, is she the one who got captured?

This brings up a "rules of engagement" question that has been briefly mentioned. As I've said before, I think Hezbollah is more wrong than Israel simply because Hezbollah does target civilians. However, can Pox reporters be considered civilians?

There are more ways to fight a war than with just weapons, namely propaganda. The soldiers in the propaganda aspect of war are the reporters who knowingly spread it. Would that qualify them as "combatants"?
Before anyone starts jumping all over me, I am not advocating anything, I am "just wondering".
Iva Toguri was wrongfully accused of being Tokyo Rose and was imprisoned for such. AFAIK, "Tokyo Rose" never was a soldier and never killed anyone.
radmod | 08.18.06 - 7:41 pm | #

BTW, I still maintain that no-one should be reporting this until they are (hopefully) returned alive.
radmod | 08.18.06 - 7:42 pm | #

Reap what you sow baby Reap what you sow......
Noodle of Choice | 08.18.06 - 7:47 pm | #

personaly I dont give a shit if they come back alive or not. They at least have the option of being there.
baba booey | Homepage | 08.18.06 - 8:48 pm | #

The terrorists do not care whether a western journalist is Liberal or Conservative or whether they are employed by Fox or CBS. They only care about whether political violence is effective or not. From recent headlines it would appear that terrorism is very effective way for Islamist jihadists to get their way
Dallas Carter | Homepage | 08.18.06 - 9:07 pm | #

Dallas Carter | Homepage | 08.18.06 - 9:07 pm |

I disagree. I will use your automatic assumption that 'terrorists' are involved even though there is no proof.
A terrorist, though he is an unreasonable maniac, may be clever. Knowing that Dubya's policies are only helping them out, they would be more inclined to kidnap a propagandist rather than an actual journalist in order to keep the terror in the news.

dude, I checked out your site, and you are whack. For those of you who might consider doing so, don't. He is best described as a Nationalist Christian (you know, the "We are god's people, all others should be eliminated" type.) For example:
The world is the organized system of opposition to God.People of the woreld are controlled through demonic deceptions and manipulation of fleshly desires on both a social ansd individual level

What is most interesting is how you have these little intro sections and then a link to more non-Christian attitudes, yet your one-and-a-half line about 'love' has no links. I guess you ignore all that "love thy neighbor" stuff. Guys like you make me sick to be a Christian.

Finally, you really need to edit your site. The far too numerous grammatical and spelling errors (let alone the illogical postings) make you look like an ignoramus thereby diluting your message.
radmod | 08.18.06 - 11:39 pm | #

Is there any way to to a "swap" for bor, coltier, cavuto, and all the lesser sacks of scum from the propaganda network for these two fox reporters? Say it's possible...PLEASE!!
Hulks | 08.19.06 - 1:56 am | #

It is well kmown that Israel has a huge web of Palestinian informants/collaborators on the ground throughout the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Consequently they have no difficulty identifying houses containing Hamas, Fatah, Al Aqsa Mosque, Islamic Jihad members etc.

Presumably Israel turns a blind eye to the abduction of non-Jewish Westerners in the Occupied Territories, preferring events to take their course, hoping the consequent bad publicity damages the Palestinians and delays indefinitely their eventual goal of a homeland.
My Uncle Toby | 08.19.06 - 7:34 am | #

My Uncle Toby | 08.19.06 - 7:34 am | #

Er, what?
centrist | 08.19.06 - 1:40 pm | #

Radmod you fucking moron Isreal DOES target civilians all the time. Hezbollah does not. That is bullshit Isreali propaganda. Why are FAR more Isreali soldiers dead than civilians? Why are FAr FAR FAR more lebanese civilians dead than hezbollah? Everything you hear on American TV is crap. Think for yourself.

Who broke the truce? Isreal. They complain that they were "ambushed" by hezbollah. They were not. Every goddam person in the village came out to get them, and get them they did.

The Isrealis are total cunts and will lie through their teeth about anything to further their cause.

I for one hope Fox are made to pay through the nose to get their lying shitbags back.
Wisdo | 08.19.06 - 4:24 pm | #

Isreal DOES target civilians all the time. Hezbollah does not.
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Wisdo, you stupid piece of shit.

How is launching inaccurate rockets at Israeli cities not "targeting civilians"?
---------
Why are FAR more Isreali soldiers dead than civilians?
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Because the Israeli civilians are sufficiently smart and disciplined to evacuate or go to shelters.
On the Right | 08.19.06 - 5:14 pm | #

BTW These comments here show just how hateful and disgusting Newshounds supporters are.
On the Right | 08.19.06 - 5:16 pm | #

How is bombing entire suburban areas not targeting civilians fuckhead? And who says the rockets were launched at cities in general? the Isrealis do. And they are lying scumbags.

The lebanese do not have shelters to go to for 1 million people. And when they try to flee they are killed by cowardly Isreali Airforce pilots.
Wisdo | 08.19.06 - 6:18 pm | #

On the right: nothing is more hateful and disgusting than people who support Israels policy of genocide. Fox supports genocide - has openly called for the genocide of 1 billion muslims many times. Fox supporters are animals. You are an animal.
Wisdo | 08.19.06 - 6:20 pm | #

What the Israelis did in Lebanon was wrong, but they have their own dissent. They messed up! The fear out there makes people overreact. Saying they want genocide is going too far.
Russ | Homepage | 08.19.06 - 7:32 pm | #

Wisdo | 08.19.06 - 4:24 pm |

Wisdo, you need to learn a little bit of moderation unless you want people to automatically assume you are some asshole troll.
I never said Israel did not target civilians, I said Hezbollah DOES target civilians. Your claim that they do not is false and you know it is. Hezbollah fires rockets into cities without care as to potential civilian casualties. That IS targetting civilians. I know this to be true because I have seen unbiased news reports from places like CNN and the BBC.
I believe that, for the most part, Israel would like to avoid civilian casualties. I do not see that with Hezbollah. THAT is the difference.

As to "On the Right", wisdo's comments though inaccurate and, quite frankly, hateful are only the direct result of an intense bombardment of hate directed at him, anti-war people and liberals in general. I realize that neo-cons have trouble connecting the dots, so let me make it simple. Punch a liberal in the face once and he 'might' let you get away with it. Punch him in the face several times and he's going to kick your ass.
I would rather have the one or two hateful comments thrown at me by liberals every once in awhile than the many, many, many more that I see coming from Repugs.
radmod | 08.19.06 - 7:33 pm | #

"Wisdo" is one sick puppie - just like most of the people here...

It is fortunate that Wisdo and the stooges he supports aren't in control!
On the Right | 08.19.06 - 7:36 pm | #

Radmod:

Your argument was informed and began to make sense until the end, when you used the tired reference to "Repugs."

That caused all of your credibility to vanish...
On the Right | 08.19.06 - 7:44 pm | #

screw them they should die!
sally | 08.19.06 - 7:45 pm | #

screw them they should die!
sally

WHO?
???? | 08.19.06 - 7:54 pm | #

screw them they should die!
sally

WHO?
???? | 08.19.06 - 7:54 pm | #

On the Right | 08.19.06 - 7:44 pm |

I am soooooo concerned about your opinion of my 'credibility.' As to your own, are you going to say that you claiming most on this site are sick gives you credibility?

Why do you object to 'repug'? Would you rather I had said Republicans?

Ah, I get it. You are an inclusionist; everything is either black or white. If someone disagrees with you they are in the 'black' group. If they agree with you they are in the 'white' group.

Well, I hate to tell you this, but it is more nuanced than that. I'll let you in on a secret. Often when someone on this site refers to 'repugs', 'cancervatives', etc. we are not referring to Republicans, conservatives, etc.
Instead we are referring to asshole Republicans, conservatives, etc.

So go away Repug.
radmod | 08.19.06 - 10:28 pm | #

Why is everyone so concerned about these people held by the Palestinians? They always release them unharmed, at least when an an Israeli missile hasn't hit the building they are being held in.
Don't worry about them.

OK it makes news and FOX can exploit it to the max but who really cares!

I saw the statement by the family, to me it looked totally unfeeling, like they could not care less!

I mean come on! This is their brother! But it is so important that thye have to firkin READ the 'statement' from a paper...

Bloody hell! I am sure if my family were held I could put a few words together about it without having to read the bloody thing.
James | 08.20.06 - 10:51 am | #

Radmod, your judging of ISraeli and Hizbullah is inaccurate, as are many who judge on the Palestinian issues.

How can anyone judge the Occupier and the Occupied on the same basis, it makes no sense, morally or legally!

Occupation is illegal, resistance is legal!

You may want to have a look at some blogs on these issues:

http://beyondthereports.blogspot.com/
James | 08.20.06 - 10:54 am | #

On The Right... your comments are so out of line with reality that you must be from another planet?

What are you? A Zionist or a Bush version of a born again Christian - read bloody thristy lunatic (sounds like a Zionist)...
James | 08.20.06 - 11:11 am | #

James | 08.20.06 - 10:54 am

Sorry, James, but your response is inaccurate, not mine. Do you deny that Hezbollah fires rockets indiscriminately into Israeli cities?
From what I have seen/read/heard Israel, technically, is not occupying Lebanon per the UN. However, I don't really care, they are both asshole organizations.
radmod | 08.21.06 - 1:18 am | #

Having been a Marine photo-journalist/editor and worked in Southeast Asia as a combat correspondent, I find the comments, attitudes and opinions of the uninitiated liberals common place, repetative and immensely uninformed... biased dis-information and propaganda regurgitated ad nauseum, as it were.

It is abundantly clear to me that these captured news guys are in serious jeaparday and many of the so-called higher thinkers posting here generally revel in their misfortune, although they won't admit it and will vehemently deny it.

Upon this you may count, these people are of the same ilk that turned a blind eye and deaf ear the the screams of millions of souls murdered by the North Vietnamese and Pol Pot in the mid-70's.

They will continue to support, aid and abet, and give comfort to those who would destroy their way of life, rip their freedom from them, force them to accept a primitive and brutal religion and/or subjugate them...or perhaps they will simply kill them and their families if allowed the opportunity. Nothing personal, you know.

Cold hard reality is difficult for the fearful ones who hide their cowardice behind the guise of higher thought and righteous indignation.

The radical Islamo-fascists who control the Muslim world are well aware of this fact and are doing a fine job getting their next crew of second class citizens in line. They well know that these hand-wringers lack the will and means to stand fast against murderous radical Muslims.

Oh how they buy into the Middle Eastern style of propaganda... hook, line and sinker.

No need to try to elevate them for they are truly dihimmi.
kre500m | 08.21.06 - 9:37 am | #

kre500m | 08.21.06 - 9:37 am |

You might've had a point right up until you started spouting 'islamo-fascists', then as one of your RW buddies staed, you lost all credibility.
radmod | 08.21.06 - 3:46 pm | #

dude, I checked out your site, and you are whack. For those of you who might consider doing so, don't. He is best described as a Nationalist Christian (you know, the "We are god's people, all others should be eliminated" type.)

radmod, if you believe that I am a "Nationalist Christian" then you have not really read my site but have simply read your predices into my work. No rational person who surfs my site would conclude that I am a National Socialist or Italian style Facsist. In fact I see my faith as providing a unique justification for individual liberty: God has given individuals certain inalienable rights. I suggest you read the two articles on liberty I posted here

You accuse me of posting ILLOGICAL POSTS, but you omitted stating which fallacies of logic I have committed. In your brief post you have copmmitted the fallacies of straw man and equivocation.

As far as your skepticism that the journalist/propagandists were kidnapped by terrorists, my reponse is that kidnapping of civillians makes one a terrorist.

The only aspect of your response where I stand corrected is that my posts sometimes do need proofing for spelling and grammatical errors. I tend to get my fingers fumbled when I type. Thank you for pointing that out.

Have a good day
Dallas | Homepage | 08.21.06 - 5:59 pm | #

Dallas | Homepage | 08.21.06 - 5:59 pm | #

-------------------------------

What does God have to do with our Constitution? And how would he give us,under our law,"inalienable rights".


Just a question here. I ask because our nation isn't founded on God's law. Our nation is founded on our law. Much different IMO.

So,what does God have to do with any of it,other than your religious convictions? Which,I am not throwing a rock at you for your beliefs,but must point out our founding fathers understood that the US was a diverse culture even in their day.
Yakki | 08.22.06 - 2:14 am | #

So have the Kidnappers executed these guys yet ??? I really couldn't give a darn whether these two Fox Fiends survive this ordeal or not. When you play with Fire you should expect to be burned, and this Fire has been a
long time coming .....
william | 08.22.06 - 1:33 pm | #

Oh this is so terrible! whoever did this kidnapping is obviously stupid and I guess there are plenty of stupid people in the world. God! who are these people? In a place that is filled with ciaos like Gaza, with Israel bombing the hell out of it everyday and targeting its police, infrastructure and ministries how can any country or government in its place control crime and stupidity? Its total ciaos! anyone can claim their own militant group and kidnap someone. I really hope they are released soon safely and this embarrassing ordeal is over with.

On a different note I have to say that Fox news sucks ass!
some girl | 08.23.06 - 11:54 pm | #

Typical koolaid-drinking leftist, dhimmi, anti-semitic, PC indoctrinated garbage. The fact that some of you "geniuses" believe things like this "...Fox is the outlet that beats the drum for the murder of all Muslims, of all colors, everywhere" and "I really couldn't give a darn whether these two Fox Fiends survive this ordeal or not. When you play with Fire you should expect to be burned, and this Fire has been a long time coming ..."
You probably also think that 9/11 is a Bush conspiracy and Katrina was created by the CIA and GW to kill black people. How expectedly small-minded and Blue State of you to wish harm on another human being just for working for the only news network to not carry the water for the Communist party. Well, I guess it's not that surprising coming from the "accept-all-ideas-except-the-ones-we-disagree- with" worn out hippy crowd. Do most of you honestly think that the Islamofacists care which side of the aisle someone's beliefs reside upon? These monsters kill anyone that is not Muslim. You can't "flower-power love and hug" these subhumans to submission. If you are Jewish, American, or English, YOU ARE THE ENEMY regardless of whether or not you are a Latte-drinking, Biscotti-eating yellow-spined, white-flag waving lib, or a proud, red, white, and blue dyed in the wool patriotic conservative. By the way, "some girl" I think you meant to say "chaos". Again, I am not surprised at the mental athleticism of the typical lib.
Right on kre500m!!!
Hang in there Steve and Olaf, we NORMAL people pray for your save return!!!
Unworlder | 08.25.06 - 12:15 am | #

Unworlder,

You better hope you prayers are being listened to by SOME higher power, because it appears these guys may very well become martys for Fox News'
Propoganda Spreading of Islamic Hatred. If these reporters/journalists
had cared at all for the Palestinian People they were reporting about this
unfortunate incident probably never would have occurred. That they may die is NOT TRAGIC news if it makes Fox Corp. think long and hard about their Anti-Islamic reporting and
how they contributed to their reporters demise.

Ce la Vie, Ce la Gare Monsieur ...
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