Pas la peine de chialer ...
In the west, we tend to believe the world is civilized, when about half the population have never used a telephone. Offer the hand of friendship to all, but don't put up the sword and buckler.
"Peace process" also known as "French victory" and "slow-motion surrender." A peace process is as unlikely as a war process.
As much as I like his writing I have to argue one point - we were not defeated in Viet Nam. We quit, that's all. Sure the end result was the same but that's not equivalent to being defeated.
U.S. of America at war!
WW1: the US got there in 1917 after the Brits and the French had done the dirty work.
WW2: the US got there in 1942 while the Soviets were bleeding the Germans to death.
Korea: a draw
Vietnam:not a victory
Irak: a majority of your citizens wants out before it turns really ugly.
P.S. I forgot the invasion of Grenada: finalement a clear victory. Bravo.
[so brave, so anonymous, such a Quebecer.]
Anonymous, thanks your for bringing us the last edition of Pradva History Review...
Jay,
The U.S. was not defeated militarily in Vietnam, but was defeated in the media. And that same media is doing the same thing now (as it would have in WWII if the media then was like the media now).
Anon:
Your knowledge and analysis of history is outstanding!
Amazing how Anonymous believes the entirety of WWII occurred in Europe, against Germany, and that the Russians did all the work. I guess the Japanese, who we're talking about today, never invaded China and numerous Pacific islands, nor did the U.S. ever have a significant military presence in Europe.
I suppose during both wars, the U.S. government didn't bend rules and invent methods to ship equipment and supplies to the Brits, French and Allies at low cost if at all.
About nam, I agree. When I left in 1972, the VC couldn't mount more than platoon sized units at best. They were defeated. It was the North Viet Namese regular army that defeated the south. The South Viet Namese army was denied promised supplies and air support as Nixon left office.
I think you defined the Latin word "luxus" very well and aptly there.
Well, lets remind to our dear anonymous that if the Allies had to go through the highly risky and difficult task of an amphibious landind it was due to the Soviets (and their communist allies ) helping Germany to defeat Poland and France.
Don M: "The U.S. was not defeated militarily in Vietnam, but was defeated in the media. And that same media is doing the same thing now (as it would have in WWII if the media then was like the media now)."
Exactly... but one caveat: One of the reasons were were so late getting into WWII is because the news media WAS doing the same thing they're doing now... right up until Pearl Harbor. But then they had the common decency to be on our side when we were actually at war.
During WWII, war correspondents were military personnel. We drafted the SOBs. Changed their perspectives remarkably.
And what do you think of Obadiah Shoher's arguments against the peace process ( samsonblinded.org/blog/we-need-a-respite-from-
peace.htm )?
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