Gravatar Interesting.
What's the date of this article?


Gravatar its in 1989. I'll give the exact date later - should have made it part of the post. And of course, it comes from the WSJ. Future installments will have more on the Recadi scandall.

By the way, maybe we should keep a tally of the money - the banks cost about $10 billion and Recadi $8 billion so were up to $18 billion (in mid 90s dollars) so far. One thing about the opposition is when they do something, they do it big. No nibbling around the edges - they go whole hog!!


Gravatar Off Topic, OW--but have you read the headlines?

The Bush Administration is calling Amnesty International's report on US abuse of Gitmo detainees a total fabrication. "Absurd" is the word they commonly use.

Bush called all the men testifying to abuse as "people who hate America".

The US media should be all over this, but they won't be. It is sufficient to take Daddy Bush at his word, after all, he is protecting us from the big, bad, tewowists.

Incredible--but this is the type of extreme delusion that we are suffering here in the US.

My question is this: where is Human Rights Watch on this issue.

(answer: in Bush's back pocket.)


Gravatar saw it. Its off topic for this blog but I did note it and your right certain "human rights" organizations really reveal themselves by there silence.

BTW, in the articles I saw Bush made a revealing mistake referring to when the Iraqis had elections as "when we had the elections" - a rather undesired admission there.


Gravatar OW--indeed, I am laughing at that 'slip'--because the mainstream have so internalized the neocon/imperial worldview that they just can't see the tragic irony there.

About the history of Venezuelan corruption, indeed, it is a worthwhile task to expose people to the cyclical nature of this massive corruption.

This corruption is an integral part of modern state capitalism in bourg. dominated societies. It happens with such regularity that people just consider it normal. Sad but true.

Only a lively people=power movement, where a great majority of the population keep a check on institutions/corporations will such events become the exception, not the general rule.

It seems that societies that are dominated by this pathological aquisitiveness will slowly disintigrate, casting ever larger percentages of people into poverty. At some point, as with Venezuelan now, the people will wake up and enage in a program of deep reform--if they are not beaten down by the forces of cynisim and reaction.

What strikes me about his is the pattern that seems almost inescapable. In capitalist socieites like the US people enage in acts that maximize self rewards, then they fundamentally misconstrue the impoverishment of the masses as having nothing to do with their own actions.

This is totally hypocritical, because so many of the wealthy chastize the poor as deserving their fate because of their collective lack of constraint, not valuing education, etc.

This is a form of pathological displacement/projection on the part of a class that has become parasitic.


Gravatar For the google-challenged, here's some of what HRW has to say about prisoner abuse at Gitmo and elsewhere,

Religious Humiliation of Muslim Detainees Widespread
http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/.../ usdom10981.htm

Getting Away with Torture?
Command Responsibility for the U.S. Abuse of Detainees

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2005/us0405/

Additional info available at www.hrw.org.


Gravatar good links - it would be interesting to compare them to what AI said. I wonder why they haven't gotten any publicity?


Gravatar Off topic

Jim R., Steven Hunt or whatever name you prefer:
If you could see how regular my life is and how regular a person I am, you wouldn't waste so much of your time hating me.
Peace


Gravatar I haven't seen all the comments on this blog but if someone is making hateful comments towards other participants please stop.

Civility please.


Gravatar "Some executives are even returning to Venezuela, quietly. But most keep up their guard. “I have two plane tickets with open dates,” says Mr. Werner, the Heinz executive, who never left."

Damn ow, im loosin my patience again, malditos sean los ineptos de esta revolucion, que son bastantes..

Where the hell are all these people!!! the venezuelans and the forengners. Why our new "revolutionary" justice is not charging them with corruption, orr requesting extraditions?!. Too busy with that posada c*nt?

where is el maldito de lusinchi y su barragana? in miami most surely. has venezuela "revolucionary" justice requested an extradition??

Where is luis herrera campins???? is in venezuela, living the good life of his last years, comiendo toronto? WHY IS HE FREE still????

and most of all where is goddamned CAP? I hear that he has multimillion dolar appartment in manhattan. Has Venezuela "revolutionary" justice requested a el imperio su extradicion?

is the chino de recadi story all over again, like a neverending nightmare

some revolutionario justice we have after 6 years. Do we have to wait another 10 years to see all this scum rotting in jail as they should be?? thx for tolerating me.


Gravatar Yeah it is a bitch about Lusinchi and Blanca and CAP and many others.

But you know, one battle at a time


Gravatar BTW, Elliv, the date as August 23, 1989


Gravatar "But you know, one battle at a time"

Well. as you say ow. one of the main reasons, if not the MAIN reason we venezuelans have elected chavez again and again was to finnish this inmundicia and inmorality of the past. Give time to time you could say, but nevertheless,

NOT ONE CORRUCTO OF THE PUNTOFIJISMO IS BEING PROSECUTED.

this 6 years later we are still waiting, and now we see that cases like posada are given priority. WTF?? One battle at a time? Why is that ow if I may ask?? WHY IS ORLANDO CASTRO, GUSANO INMUNDO SILL MOVING AROUND IN AND OUT OF VENEZUELA COMO SI NADA HUBIERA PASADO, for example.

I wont say no more. Have a good night, i know i wont.


Gravatar ROB,

You do have a legit point - no doubt about it. But don't you think it better that you have a gov't that maybe while not pursueing these people with the desired vigour at least isn't of, by, and for these people like the prior govts were?

If you think about that maybe you'll sleep at least a tad bit easier. Just trying to help.

BTW, why one battle at a time? When you are trying to win a war you fight one battle at a time. You can't fight everyone at once so you have to defeat one adversary at a time.


Gravatar ROB--I am still wondering why Bush Jr. and Clinton are not in jail!

Hope that makes you feel better.

The short answer is that the 'bad guys' run the world.

Is it fair?--hell no. One has to work collectively with other to develop justice, it isn't an abstracted given condition--justice and freedom are lived, fought for, and taken from the oppressor, or that which oppresses.

But I never thought that i would see the day that Pinochet would be put under legal scrutiny.




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