What strikes me most from the Ambassador's statements (emphasis on the 'ass' part of the title) is how he automatically construes Posada as being already a US citizen--instead of a Venezuelan national and a fugitive from its system of justice.
"the United States believes that Posada Carriles, like any other of its 280 million inhabitants..." what up with that?
Was this a slip?--or is the Ambassador so identified with Posada's extremist politics (as he is also a mercenary for empire) that he has already psychically identified as one of US?
Weird, OW--these people are wack.
General:
I picked up on that too! They treat this illegal alien as if he was already a US citizen. I wonder if this SOB were picked up on minor traffic violations would be sent back to to his country of domicile like they do most other illegal aliens. In fact, now that I think of it, why havent they done that already? Illegal aliens are sent back regularly, even after having spent most of thier lives in the US and having attended US schools and contributed to the US economy. I mean he's not Cuban anymore so the rule of dry feet on US soil would not apply and further would hamper the cause since they have stated that this is not a political matter. If it is not a political matter then why not send him back to his country of origin? Given this line of thinking an extradtition request would not be necessary if the US follows its already established immigration policy.
That is not to say that a formal extradition request is not forthcoming, only to say that this avenue needs some investigation should something happen along the way where the US negates extradition.
I noticed that too. He might not have meant that he has the same rights as citizens or permanent residents but simply that the same legal priciple of innocent until proven guilty applies to him.
But the whole thing is theatre of the absurd. I didn't post everything I could have on this but the when the US demanded that the Taliban hand over Bin Laden the Taliban said a committe of elders and religious scholars had to meet to decide what to do. The U.S. rejected that as just stalling!!!
The reporters asking the questions were much to polite to this guy and really let him off the hook with softball questions.
As far as being what - the term that comes to my mind is arrogance. Do as we say, not as we do. That is how they operate.
Pulpo, I think he is a Venezuelan citizen. I'm sure the US will try to send him to a third country, that is definetly the preferred way out of the pickle they are in now. Then again, thats what the Taliban wanted to do with Bin Laden and the US rejected that. Every which way they twist and turn they are trapped by their own hypocrisy.
OW:
" Pulpo, I think he is a Venezuelan citizen. I'm sure the US will try to send him to a third country, "
Precisely my point. If they send back to coutnry of origin then that is Cuba. If they send him back to country of domicile then Venezuela, if they send him back to the country from which he entered then that is Mexico which has stated they want nothing to do with the matter and would extradite.
So then, where else did this scumbag travel? One need only look at central American countries that are sided with US hegemony to see where he will end up. In this scenario I would not discount the possibility of Colombia. The task at hand is to investigate extradition treaties with those countries that are susceptible to the thumb of power. Lord knows this is already under way among certain circles, Im sure. I see this m'fer lapping it up in Costa Rica for some reason, hidden from public scrutiny.
No doubt that the US will try to protect their former employee. But the circumstances negates his remaining on US soil, if they choose the right road, otherwise a field day is in the waiting for not just bloggers but public opinion in general. I anticipate that this issue will selectivley be buried under other news and a decision of the matter made when something else takes precedence over the covers of US periodicals.
Public opinion in the US doesn't seem to be a problem--the US corporate media will just cooperate with the soft-pedel, the playing-down of this thing, as they have been doing, as is predictable from every indicator we have.
They could send him to El Salvador, but the main left-opposition guy is in Cuba now shouting for the US to hand him to Venezuela.
I can easily see this guy staying in the US.
Do you think that the Democrat Liberals are going to make much of a stink about this? LOL These people are totally debunked as having any integrity whatsoever--like the situation of the Ven. opposition, save for the fact that there is still corporate power behind the Dems, and they are the necessary 'other side of the coin' in our duopoloy.
Sad situation--but this works definately in the favor of the Latin American left, the way I see it.
So, let him go to Miami--he will be a psychic focal point, a reminder of the state terrorism and the sheer hypocrisy of a decepit empire with moral no-shows in its leadership.
If I saw him in Miami, however, i would rebuke him soundly--just for the sake of the poor families that have lost loved ones.
But to the creeps in our duopoloy, Dems and Reps, the victims of our state terror are forgettable and forgotten.
We cannot afford to forget.
Jim:
I agree the US goverment and most of the media is completely capable of sweeping this all under the rug. They do that all the time. But I have to be at least a little optomistic that Venezuela will keep plugging away at it and will keep bringing up the issue all over the world. So even if this doesn't cost the US internally it would cost it externally.
Just like with WMD. Now that the US was busted lying about WMD in Iraq how many are going to believe what they say about Iran or Syria or other countries. Not many, even inside the US. And every time they even bring the subject of WMD up it will be thrown back in their faces that they lied about Iraq.
Same goes for Posada. If at the end of the day they don't act against him appropriately they will definitely lose credibility. Maybe not within the U.S. but internationally. So when they try to lecture, lets say Germans, about not being soft in the war on terror the Germans can just respond with then why are you soft on it in the case of Posada.
Yet more on US double standards.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/05...inee/
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Anyone want to place odds on Posada ever winding up in one of these secret prisions?
Yeah, OW, I see the utility in using the Posada case as a bludgeon--whatever we can use to keep the wolf away from the Bolivivarian door must be used to the max.
However, as Canada is showing us with it's direction in Haitian oppression--never underestimate the craveness to which nations will sink when they are lead astray by pathological, bully powers like the US, a nation that worships at the feet of hypocrisy and drinks to a drunken stupor from a cup of global woe.
All i can pray for is that someday, in his old age, that Bush will be hunted down by the forces of justice and pulled from a spider hole on the parched plains of Texas.
BTW, anyone notice that there are no "visitors" on this thread! Wonder why. LOL
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