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ow- In contrast to the Vth Republic where people get fired for acts of corruption, in the IVth Republic it was NOT engaging in corruption that would get you fired -ow
What is the basis of this assertion regarding "manos limpias" in the MVR administration? Being on the Tascon is a firing offense; enriquecimiento ilicito is the raison d'etre of the boliburgesia.
ow- Carlos Ball...was a little over optomistic in thinking that the banking failures would end cronyism - it was only Chavez's election that finally put an end to that. -ow
Heh - yeah, that's right, cronyism is unknown in the Zona Militarizada de Venezuela. No back is scratched, no hand washes another.
Carlos Ball:" Veo a Venezuela como a una persona muriendo de sed en el desierto, al alcance de una máquina de Coca-Cola y con monedas en el bolsillo. Si el gobierno venezolano siguiese el ejemplo de otras naciones latinoamericanas que han logrado alcanzar tanto una estabilidad política como crecimiento económico -instrumentando drásticas reducciones de los impuestos y de barreras regulatorias, todo ello respaldado por una sólida política monetaria- el país podría vencer sus problemas financieros. Y si le añadimos la privatización del petróleo, lo cual podría significar $130,000 millones -suficiente para pagar la deuda tanto externa como interna, pagar las prestaciones sociales de los empleados públicos, reflotar al quebrado Seguro Social y reconstruir la infraestructura de todo el país-, así Venezuela podría convertirse de la noche a la mañana en el más potente motor de crecimiento en América Latina.
Pero
¿está el presidente Caldera suficientemente comprometido con el éxito venezolano como para darle una pelea frontal a los grupos de presión que resisten todo progreso económico?
( survey says: no)
Durante el almuerzo ofrecido al presidente Gaviria, de paso en Venezuela para apoyar las negociaciones del G-3,
el presidente Caldera se vio rodeado por algunos de los peores transgresores de la más mínima ética bancaria. ¿Quiere ello decir que grupos financieros han logrado ya bloquear todo genuino progreso económico en Venezuela, saltando exitosamente de los corredores del poder que rodeaban a Carlos Andrés Pérez para posesionarse privilegiadamente en el medio del nuevo gobierno “anticorrupción” del Dr. Caldera? Sólo el tiempo lo dirá.
El tiempo dice, no. The same cliques that surrounded CAP and Caldera are the ones now boasting to THE NATION about how they've never mande more money than by cooking the books for the MVRristas.
More background on the banking crisis that started off the Caldera/Movimiento Al Socialismo 94-99 government:
http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/
ipd...kingVEN_bk.html
http://www.duke.edu/~charvey/Cou...y/
venezuela.htm
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=c...y+caldera&
hl=en
Lastly, Cassandra:
Venezuela:From Sh
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Lastly, Cassandra:
Venezuela:From Showcase to Basket Case by Roger Fontaine
America is ungovernable. Those who have served the revolution have plowed the sea. --Simon Bollvar
" It should be added that Venezuela's armed forces provide no solution either: consistent with their authoritarian tendencies, many officers espouse the same sort of economic nationalism that has become the warp and woof of Venezuelan politics... Venezuela is more vulnerable to catastrophe ... Nowhere else in South America is there a political culture that has so thoroughly divorced reward from work and acquired a political class so loathed. Nowhere else is social mobility so restricted by a poor educational system and a regulatory maze that totally discourages entrepreneurship. In no other country have the marginalized poor been so thoroughly urbanized, their daily life deteriorating . Add to that a middle class that is being impoverished, a security force that is demoralized, and a tiny sector of enormously wealthy people who have done little to earn their wealth. Those are the ingredients of a societal Molotov cocktail.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-251.html
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in 2005, what's changed?
The enormously wealthy people who have done little to earn their wealth NOW are in the orbit of Chavismo: true believers, military officers, foreign apologists, hangers-on, sycophants, and all those who'll ride this pony as long as the good times -and the oil barrels- roll.
Just as under Gomez, "mi general" Perez Jimenez, CAP, CAP redux, et al.
For all you foreign apologists who think that teaching another generation of marginalized poor that cozying up to power is how you get ahead in life, trickle-down graft and corruption are a poor excuse for being "progressive".
Even if you throw up Potemkin clinicas with trendy "Handmaid's Tale" Red nurses uniforms.
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"Being on the Tascon is a firing offense"
Oh yes that dang Tason list. The one that helped show that the opposition was lying when it said it had 3.6 million signatures when it only turned out to have what - 2.7 or 2.8 million. The opposition doesn't like anyone who catches them in their lies.
"No back is scratched, no hand washes another."
Do tell. So far all the escaulido press has come up with is someones daughter riding on an airplane without paying. Got anything better? Any banks collapse recently? Yeah, didn't think so.
"The enormously wealthy people who have done little to earn their wealth NOW are in the orbit of Chavismo: true believers, military officers, foreign apologists, hangers-on, sycophants, and all those who'll ride this pony as long as the good times -and the oil barrels- roll.
Just as under Gomez, "mi general" Perez Jimenez, CAP, CAP redux, et al."
Last time I checked CAP, Cisneros, Otero etc. were still all in your camp. And the opposition does love them. Tell the truth, you were chearing the guy on in 89, right. Be honest now.
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I know its troubling for all the little piglets to get over the trough being taken away. But heh, they'll adjust or at worst just move to Florida.
And as far as things Potemkin goes, the only Potemkin in Venezuela is the opposition. It must have been brutally hard on them on A15 as that realization sank in. At least they still have the memories to look back on - kind of like that little old lady holding up a poster of an old opposition march from back in the days.
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ow- I know its troubling for all the little piglets to get over the trough being taken away. But heh, they'll adjust or at worst just move to Florida. -ow
We're to trust that the new crop of piglets will distribute the trough's contents equitably and fairly, under the happy smiling face of head piglet, more-equal-than-others Napoleon.
On your say-so.
No, alas, the men you cite were never in my camp.
Neither was old Napoleon Bravo - remember him? Whose wife wrote that love letter "La Caida De Los Angeles"
to Chavez? Or Marieta Santana. Or Alfredo Pena. They were all in Chavez camp from the get-go.
Until the new piglets shoved them aside.
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Actually, they are distributing things much more equally. Did you miss this:
http://oilwars.blogspot.com/2005...s-he-do-
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And you say the people I metion were never in your camp. Well then I don't know what camp you are in but they are definitely in the oppositions camp. Like, wasn't it Pena that let the PM be used as the tip of the spear for the coup? Thankfully he is out. I really like the work Barreto it doing.
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My camp is very simple : it is opposed to megalomanaical Lt. Colonels who attempt to kidnap and assasinate elected leaders for their own enrichment and elevation.
Arias Cardenas is out of my camp;
his failed co-conspirator is light-years out of my camp.
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"My camp is very simple : it is opposed to megalomanaical Lt. Colonels who attempt to kidnap and assasinate elected leaders for their own enrichment and elevation."
Does your camp include those who supported the A11 coup or the strike to overthrow a democratic government so a rich clique could get its privalages back? I suspect that it does but just thought I'd ask.
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My camp doesn't include an elected official ready to use the military against the citizenry, leading to his loss of control over the military and resignation.
I take it the demonstrators in Bolivia and Ecuador (who set in motion a removal of a sitting elected president "por abandono de cargo", while he was still in office)
are NOT in your camp, then?
Do you support the 4F'92 and
27N' 92 attempted coups?
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Recent commentary by Carlos Ball
http://www.miami.com/mld/elnuevo...on/
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"En Venezuela, la sustitución del personal profesional de la petrolera estatal PDVSA por adeptos al presidente Chávez ha disparado la corrupción y colapsado la producción, que ha caído en 1.7 millones de barriles diarios"
I guess he's getting the O'Grady disease. First, the only people fired were people who went on a POLITICAL strike trying to overthrow a government. If they had handn't done that they would still have their jobs.
Secondly a fall of 1.7 million barrels a day???? Even if you take the lower production numbers given about of 2.6 million that is down only 700k from 3.3 million. I guess his arithmatic skills have deteriorated.
And on corruption Ball has never been shy about giving facts. He doesn't give any so I guess he doesn't have any . Just like a certain poster I can think of
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