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I think Rev. Pat is really worried that Hugo Chavez's government is much more diligently following the teaching of Jesus than George Bush's government. That really undermines the faithful, that is the faithful voting for Georgie Boy.
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10.10.05 - 9:59 am | #
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He probably figures, blaming Saddam with conections to Osama and WMD with no proof whatsoever fooled the ignorant undeducated bible thumping americans before, so why not try it now?
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10.10.05 - 12:31 pm | #
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OW, this Robertson is whacked!
But he does follow a similar mindset of many here on the hard right in the USA.
Chavez is leading Venezuela out of economic neoimperialism; it is no wonder that the people that live and breath capitalist imperialism want Chavez dead.
How many years are South and Central American countries supposed to accept a majority of the population perpetually impoverished? It doesn't jibe with the rhetoric of freedom and self-determination that we scream from the top of the mountain.
And mind you, Chavez' reforms have been very modest in every respect--and look at the reaction from the dogmatists.
Let's just hope that the US is taken down a few notches in the eyes of the global community. Indeed, savage capitalism is the road to ruination and death.
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Where does this Osama donation thing come from? I read they got it from disaffected military but this is the first I've ever heard of it (I'm a johnny-come-lately). Hopefully this has been thoroughly debunked. Can someone link me up with the debunking?
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Curtis:
This Osama-Venezuela junk has been around a while. I don't know who specifically came up with it but the only media that ever picked it up was the Natioanl Review, not exactly the most credible media.
Its typical opposition mud slinging. They just try to make every claim they can against Chavez hoping something will catch on - ie the old throw all the mud you can at the wall and see what sticks.
As far as debunking this goes I don't know how you can debunk it. I think it is incumbent on those making the accusations to present evidence and so far (and we are talking years now) they haven't. Which is why no-one except loons like Robertson even talks about it.
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Thanks for the reply. Here's a link to a story I found on how the Osama link story came about. Would you happen to know if this load of B.S. was ever answered or discredited? I have no doubt it is complete libelous slander but I'd like to slam the story for my non-believer friends.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/
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yup, thats the story I remember. Again you can't prove the negative of these things but note its from January 2003. So more than 2 and a half years and no evidence.
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"He probably figures, blaming Saddam with conections to Osama and WMD with no proof whatsoever fooled the ignorant undeducated bible thumping americans before, so why not try it now?"
The eternal optomist in me wants to believe people won't fall for that again. Then again... they probably will 
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Maybe shifting Venezuela's investments from US Treasury bills to Euros in Switzerland makes them a bit more geographically near Osama. At least one right wing nut thinks that is a "nail in commie Chavez' coffin".
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10.11.05 - 8:51 am | #
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Chuck, You sure do read some far out blogs don't you. Be careful, its probably not good for your blood pressure and mental health 
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Here are more details on where the accusation comes from
http://www.elsalvador.com/notici...al/
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"Piden pruebas
El piloto disidente fue interrogado sobre las pruebas para respaldar sus denuncias.
- El militar señaló que en las reuniones participaron el actual ministro del Interior, Cabello, su antecesor en ese cargo, Luis Alfonso Dávila, y el ministro de Defensa de entonces y actual vicepresidente, José Vicente Rangel.
- Señaló que no es ningún secreto que Venezuela ha recibido lotes de armas, “por barcos y por aviones”, procedentes de Cuba. Parte de esas armas habrían ido a parar a la guerrilla colombiana.
uRecordó que denuncias similares fueron realizadas por el general del ejército Nestor González, las cuales, dijo, no merecieron ninguna averiguación del gobierno.
- Refirió que Chávez mantiene una línea directa de comunicación con Castro y que cada vez que hay problemas serios en Venezuela ambos se reúnen en las islas de Margarita."
Among other things he paints himself as part of the inner circle with no evidence whatsover besides him witnessing it, he hasn't even testified under oath.
In the end just weak accusations lacking evidence.
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" Maybe shifting Venezuela's investments from US Treasury bills to Euros in Switzerland makes them a bit more geographically near Osama. At least one right wing nut thinks that is a "nail in commie Chavez' coffin"."
In answer to the looney in the right wing blog:
HURRICANE KATRINA DESTROYS NEW ORLEANS DAYS BEFORE "SOUTHERN DECADENCE" 8/31/05
HURRICANE KATRINA DESTROYS NEW ORLEANS
DAYS BEFORE "SOUTHERN DECADENCE" 8/31/05
PHILADELPHIA - Just days before "Southern Decadence", an annual homosexual celebration attracting tens of thousands of people to the French Quarters section of New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina destroys the city.
"Southern Decadence" has a history of filling the French Quarters section of the city with drunken homosexuals engaging in sex acts in the public streets and bars. Last year, a local pastor sent video footage of sex acts being performed in front of police to the mayor, city council, and the media. City officials simply ignored the footage and continued to welcome and praise the weeklong celebration as being an "exciting event". However, Hurricane Katrina has put an end to the annual celebration of sin.
On the official "Southern Decadence" website (www.SouthernDecadence.com), it states that the annual event brought in "125,000 revelers" to New Orleans last year, increasing by thousands each year, and up from "over 50,000 revelers" in 1997. This year’s 34th annual "Southern Decadence" was set for Wednesday, August 31, 2005 through Monday, September 5, 2005, but due to massive flooding and the damage left by the hurricane, Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco has ordered everyone to evacuate the city.
The past three mayors of New Orleans, including Sidney Barthelomew, Marc H. Morial, and C. Ray Nagin, issued official proclamations welcoming visitors to "Southern Decadence". Additionally, New Orleans City Council made other proclamations recognizing the annual homosexual celebration.
"Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city," stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. "From 'Girls Gone Wild' to 'Southern Decadence,' New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. From the devastation may a city full of righteousness emerge," he continued.
Its all relative folks. More wacky on thier side if you ask me.
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Woops forgot link:
http://www.repentamerica.com/
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REPENT - Hedonistic Chavistas if you know whats good for you!!!! LOCUSTS I TELL YOU, LOCUSTS, and Red tide, DAMN YOU! And a showers of FROGS, is what awaits you if you dont give up the evil socialism!!!!
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