I just noticed something (and BTW, it's good to be seeing that hilarious poster again! ): Ortega appears TWICE on it. Once in his natural hair color and minus the fake mustache, and the other time in Saddam drag.

I wonder who the hooker is.


What do you think the chances are that he will flee the country and end up in the US?


Well, he's done it before, so I'd say the odds are good.

I recommend a better disguise next time, though.


BTW, in response to the title of the thread: Yeah, the cops sure do suck. That would explain the rampant crime, from corporate criminals and coup-plotters on down.


Notice that in the right bottom corner of the poster says "alcaldia de Caracas, Freddy Bernal Alcalde". What a nice way to spend the city hall´s money, huh? Have you visited Caracas? didn´t you see mountains (i´m not joking) of trash just right by side of people houses and windows?


Gravatar If they pardoned some violent coupsters who had a hundred or so deaths on their heads...


Gravatar All the federales say,

The could have had him any day,

they only let him slip away,

out of kindness I suppose

Pancho's on the loose again LOL


Gravatar Bina, that is interesting. That is how he appeared when he was involved in the coup so they probably put that so people would recognize him.


Gravatar Here are some morons, some might be relatives, celebrating the poor guys birthday in abstentia las year:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums...wars/ carlos.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums...ars/ carlos2.jpg


Gravatar "If they pardoned some violent coupsters who had a hundred or so deaths on their heads..."

Those people at least did their jail time until they got pardoned. This guy couldn't hack that apparently.

Crooked7. He probably will try to flee. But remember Costa Rica threw him out for engaging in anti-Venezuelan activities while in exile there. The U.S. MIGHT let him in, it's hard to say. Colombia, where Pedro Carmona is, is another possibility. Suffice it to say there are a lot of opposition scumbags in Venezuela who will give him refuge. He turned up at the last oppostion rally before the RR, was in plain view of thousands, and no-one turned him in. Such fine upstanding citizens are those opposition types (not). That's probably why they've nominated another coupster to run for president.


Gravatar What a farce. Ortega escaping. On top of this, the Attorney General admitting that his star witness in the Danilo Anderson case, Geovanny Vásquez, fooled him all along.

You can bet that the opposition and the media will exploit all this to the full - and just two days after Chávez' campaign launch. The timng could not be more unfortunate.


Gravatar Pedro - the trash problem has been solved but onlly to a certain extent, so don't overplay it.

Opposite the mosque in Quebrada. Honda, and more recently in San Bernardino I saw trash strewn everywhere but it's getting the better.

The only way to solve this problem is with public cooperation and that is not forthcoming since we do not have that sort of "civic or env ironmental consciousness" bred into us. At least not yet.


Gravatar OW - it's not the police since Ramo Verde is a military prison. Some one has a lot of money to bribe. Remember the GN paid by the Colombians to kidnap Granda in Bellas Artes, Caracas.


Gravatar "Some one has a lot of money to bribe"

No surprise there. The opposition certainly has lots of money.


Gravatar OT:

You just can't make this stuff up. When people abandoned in New Orleans stole they were called looters. I wonder if they will call the Israeli soldiers looters:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/ 750384.html

IDF general: Troops lacking food can steal from Lebanese stores

By Haaretz Service

"If our fighters deep in Lebanese territory are left without food our water, I believe they can break into local Lebanese stores to solve that problem," Brigadier General Avi Mizrahi, the head of the Israel Defense Forces logistics branch, said Monday.

Mizrahi's comments followed complaints by IDF soldiers regarding the lack of food on the front lines


Gravatar you're such a fucking idiot burnett. Is not the police that sucks is the military you moron. And who's in control of the military? Sure the opposition has a lot of money, unfortunately not nearly as much as your idol.


Gravatar Not as much as you are mister "Duke".

Hope you don't make your living as a private eye - you'd starve

And don't worry, justice will catch up with your hero "Carlitos".


Gravatar No surprise there. The opposition certainly has lots of money.

Oh and the guy in the matching red PJs with the bulging checkbook, doesn't?


Gravatar ygbk - nothing constructive to say as usual? Only those in the "know" would comment on such matters as the colors Fidel and Chavez are wearing or be so effeminate to even bother commenting on it. Frankly pathetic and effete.


Gravatar Ha, ha anon. you're hilarious, particularly since you don't know the first thing about me, making your remarks totally ludicrous!! Check out the photo of Fifo and your Fearless (???) leader in CC and tell me it isn't funny!!!

Nope, nothing constructive to say here as this blog doesn't tend toward the constructive. Just slumming!!!

By the way OW, when do you earn your keep at the hospital?


Gravatar When incapable of taking the blame for your own ineptness, blame someone else; about par for the course for this "regime."

"PPT: Fuga de Carlos Ortega y hermanos Faría es un plan desestabilizador."

Oh, by the way, isn't El Supremo wont to say that the Armed Forces are staunchly with him? Apparently not all of them. It seems he's getting a taste of his own medicine as he goes around buying votes, backing, etc. Must be a bit frightening for someone who isn't precisely known for being all that courageous to discover that - everyone has a price!!! Perhaps even the G2?


Gravatar Yup, and that is what the opposition excells at - bribing people. Hell they did a good job of bribing people to flip in the AN diddn't they? Of course then they went and threw away all that hard work and money by boycotting the elections.

Yes they can still bribe people. And yes they can manipulate. They've been doing it since '99. But the walls are closing in. For the most part they are out of the military. For the most part they are out of PDVSA. There are fewer and fewer of them in the government. And with a big victory in December by Chavez and the filling out of the militia's ranks I suspect the opposition will find in 2007 adn 2008 that its room for manuveuring and doing this kind of BS will be much reduced. So laugh all you want at this - just remember who is winning.



Gravatar Bush is losing touch with reality more and more everyday:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...o_pr_wh/ bush_13

"Hezbollah attacked Israel, Hezbollah started the crisis, and Hezbollah suffered a defeat in this crisis," the president said. "The reason why is, this is because there's going to be a new power in the south of Lebanon, and that's going to be a Lebanese force with a robust international force to help them seize control of the country."


Sure, Israel won. Just like the U.S. "accomplished" its mission in Iraq!


Gravatar OW - note how oppos such as ygbk take one event and extrapolate it to the big picture.

In eptness is the correct word - for the opposition. They had 40% of the vote in 2004 and squandered it almost willfully.

They refuse to acknowledge all this and will continue squealing al the way to the shalughterhouse on December 3rd.

Globoterror just showed video footage of Chavez' visit to Fidel and Matacura said: "oh, so it wasn't a photsoop set up afterall".


Gravatar "OW - it's not the police since Ramo Verde is a military prison. "

I know. The post refers to the inability of the police to catch him given his known predeliction for bingo parlors.


Gravatar Actually, anon, the best example of not taking responsibility for anything in Venezuela is the opposition trying to pretend the strike was Chavez's doing not theirs. That always cracks me up. The opposition is led by people who are 50 going on 5.

BTW, speaking of responsibility they've always ducked the accusation that they are a bunch of embittered holdovers from the previous governments upset at losing their privaleges. Yet who do they choose as their candidate? A dinasour from A.D. Given the choice between the future, someone like Borges from Primero Justicia, and someone from the past, Rosales, they chose the past. If that doesn't show who they really are I don't know what does.


Gravatar All right, I won't extrapolate anything. Explain by what right your idol went to visit his idol - a private trip - using Venezuelan taxpayers' money and bearing gifts that belong to the VENEZUELAN NATION.

Slaughterhouse? Oh because the vote is already in?


Gravatar Uh, he is the president of the country so when he travels it is at taxpayer expense just like Bush gets a month long vacation in Texas at taxpayer expense. So its not a private trip, its part of his job. And while even I don't particularly like his going there it is the duly elected president of a country that decides such things. If Venezuelans decide they don't like it they can vote him out.


Gravatar Your assuming that someone was bribed. What if Chavez's own army let him out as a sign of dissent? A reminder to the leader that he is not in complete control of everyone in the army, regardless of price.

Do you think that people in the army really want to get involved in the middle east war? It is one thing to play war in machurucuto staging a fake asymetrical war against the empire, and another to join the jihad. Perhaps these guys are not happy with the direction Chavez is leading the nation. The timing was quite telling.

Has Chavez miscalculated the direction the majority wants to go?


Gravatar You are... not your...


Gravatar "Some one has a lot of money to bribe"

No surprise there. The opposition certainly has lots of money.
ow | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 10:57 am | #


... and so does the government.


Gravatar Gustavo:

First I don't think Venezuela has any intention of getting directly involved in any war in the Middle East. Venezuela is simply interested in being able to defend itself. Moreover, Hezbollah and the Iraqi insurgency don't look like they need any assistance - they seem to be doing just fine.

I don't want to speculate on the jail break as I have absolutely no inside information on it. But as to your point that there may be people in the Armed Forces who don't like Chavez: Of course there are. Just as there are people throughout the government and throughout Venezuelan society who don't like him. Venezuela is not a monolithic society nor does it wish to be. And as long as people obey the law and don't do stupid things like try to overthrow the government there is absolutely nothing wrong with having people with varying views in the military.

The only thing I would hope about people in the military is that they would have a proper understanding of what their role is, ie defending the country, not choosing its political leadership. The political leadership is to be chosen via elections not by who someone in the military thinks it should be. I think at this point Venezuela has a professional military which knows to ignore nonsense like this from the opposition:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums...s/ pancarta2.jpg

As to where the majority wants to go I think that is obvious. I'm sure it is clear to you too.


Gravatar "... and so does the government."

Yeah, but they have other things to spend it on - salaries, supplies, the Missions, etc. I doubt they spend money trying to bribe their own government.


Gravatar Yeah, but they have other things to spend it on - salaries, supplies, the Missions, etc.

That's a laugh! Keep dreaming!!!!!!


Gravatar A laugh, maybe. But Venezuelans seem pretty happy with the Missions, their increased salaries, their improved standard of living, the new subways, bridges and damns, etc, etc. Maybe if the opposition ever did anything constructive like put together a program of its own or try to lead by example instead of just trying to overthrow the government they wouldn't need to get friends through bribery.


Gravatar they wouldn't need to get friends through bribery.... you put your foot in it again... The opposition is just playing "follow the leader (not)." Oh and the word is "dams." As for the people being happy, why don't you talk to those who were demonstrating near Miraflores - allegedly his followers- and were mistreated by the GN so that they had to take refuge with that big baddie... Globovisión! Why don't you take a little trip to Venezuela, you might be surprised by what you see!


Gravatar the opposition needs to get influence through bribery since it can't win an election to save its life. Not so for the government.

Its not easy making everyone happy and Chavez doesnt' have a way to do that more than any other politician. But he does seem to make a large majority happy. And that has been crystal clear when I've been in Venezuela. Just as its crystal clear to all everyone save those who refuse to see.


Gravatar Wow, so maybe he will start resisting the regime again:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20060...a_prison_escape

"Carlos has always been a fighting man," Edgar Zambrano, an opposition politician who recently visited him in prison, said Monday. "I imagine if he decided to escape from prison, he's doing it to stay in the country and, while in hiding, begin a frontal fight against the regime."

From the nearest bingo parlor of course.


Gravatar All the Federals say they could've had him any day
We only let him slip away out of kindness I suppose

Lefty he can't sing the blues all night long like he used to
The dust that Poncho bit down south ended up in Lefty's mouth
Day they laid poor Poncho low Lefty split for Ohio
Where he got the bread to go there ain't nobody knows
All the Federals say they could've had him any day
We only let him slip away out of kindness I suppose
[ guitar ]
The poets tell how Poncho fell and Lefty's living in a cheap hotel
The desert's quiet and Cleveland's cold and so the story ends we're told
Poncho needs your prayers it's true but save a few for Lefty too
He only did what he had to do and now he's growing old
(All the Federals say they could've had him any day)
We only let him slip away out of kindness I suppose
A few Federals say could've had him any day
We only let him go so long out of kindness I suppose
.......................................
Yes, with a few changes I could make Carlos the 'lefty' in these lyrics. I could use this song to pick up escalido chicks in east Caracas if my spanish was better and I could play a guitar.

But....alas....I am content with the way Willie sings it in the origional.

OW, rumor has it that this time Carlos is going for a Boy George disguise, and he is hanging out in transvestite bars

Quite the fall lol


Gravatar "... and so does the government."

Yeah, but they have other things to spend it on - salaries, supplies, the Missions, etc. I doubt they spend money trying to bribe their own government.
ow | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 7:36 pm | #


There are many people in the government with "new found wealth", which should raise eyebrows. In my opinion, there really isn't very much difference between the amount of corruption between this governement and the last. The only difference is Chavez keeps the majority happy. In all honesty, it's not a bad plan.


Gravatar If there was corruption at all comparable to the previous governments I tend to think it would have been found out by now. So far Cadivi seems to be working just fine and the banking system is anything but collapsing.

If the corruption under this government was even 10% of what it was previously I'd be surprised.


Gravatar Jeebus...you leave for a few hours, and look what happens. You get puddles of troll splooge everywhere!

Guys, wipe your monitors and get a grip. (On something besides your teeny penises, that is.) Ortega's a crook. The "opposition" is a bad joke. Without dinero from Washington, those bottom feeders can't come up with anything legitimate against Chavez, so they have to resort to illegitimate means. And we all saw how THOSE worked out.

As for the poster being courtesy of Freddy Bernal--so what? I'd call it public money well spent on truthful advertising.


Gravatar "If there was corruption at all comparable to the previous governments I tend to think it would have been found out by now...".

"If the corruption under this government was even 10% of what it was previously I'd be surprised."

ow, for a fact based blog I'd say you've missed quite a few, and that's putting it charitably, over the last few years to come up with those two gems.

At least those two howlers are buried in the comments section. On the other hand how about a main post on how corruption-free the government is. I'm sure they have plenty of facts you can use to back up that claim.


Gravatar Mike,

So do you have any "facts" about corruption to present. Not heresay, facts.


Gravatar ow,

So do you have any "facts" about non-corruption to present? Not heresay, facts.

(it's hearsay btw)


Gravatar Mike, what facts would I present about something that doesn't exist? Save to say the banking system is still standing (it collapsed after CAP II) friends looted it and Cadivi was doing fine (and on the internet last time I looked). Plus, if they had evidence of corruption they could take it to the international press and run with it - but that has only happened in a few minor cases so I can only surmise they don't have any. Plus, some of the famous accusations by some, like UCV professor Guerrero, asserting that the oil revenue numbers didn't add up didn't pan out (debunked in the comments sections of all places).


Gravatar ow,

Well, in my mind at least what we have here is a draw or stalemate.

Obviously, we'll just have to wait until the VI Republic to find out what was really going on behind the scenes in chavismo.

I'm thinking the picture will not look very pretty but of course that is simply conjecture on my part, an opinion based, apparently, on rumour and innuendo but to which I add my own gut feeling due to my unabiding distrust of all governments in general and chavismo in particular.

Really, Dan, it wouldn't hurt you to be even a little suspicious of those currently holding the reins of power. They aren't all saints and they all aren't in it for altruistic reasons like you.


Gravatar Does anyone here know Ortega? NO... bunch of losers is what you are....


Gravatar GWEH

And you do? And you consider that something to brag about?
Mike, I wouldn't say a stalemate. After all the people making assertions of that nature are generally the ones who have to back it up. If I say most of the money being spent by the US in Iraq is being stolen I think I have to give evidence to support that - someone else doesn't have to prove that is NOT happening.

You are correct that a lot of stuff isn't known until after a given government leaves office. So maybe will learn more in another 6 years.

And yes, there clearly is corruption. Just nothing like what it was before.


Gravatar Slave Revolt,

The original version is by the late, great Townes van Zandt. Accept no substitute.


Gravatar Does anyone here know Ortega? NO... bunch of losers is what you are....
GWEH | Homepage | 08.15.06 - 9:56 pm | #


Projection, yer honor!

BTW, Ortega is on video saying he doesn't give a fuck for the law of the land or any of its democratic and legal institutions. Who needs to know more about him?

He's a thug, and you're a wetwipe. Case closed.


Gravatar lets get things straight:

police don´t suck, they didn´t do anything. Its a militar jail.

nobody bribed anybody, they did it because they wanted.

the government doesn´t have a clue of where these guys are and will probably start a new media circus to grab some atention and don´t look so ridiculous. Why? because they know it looks bad that the entire jail colaborated with the runaway.

NinaBaker: my sociological experiment has given its results (muahaha).


Gravatar "police don´t suck, they didn´t do anything."

Dude, its the police who are suppose to be hunting him down. Given he hangs out in bingo parlors the post is bitching (sarcastically) about the police not catching him yet in a bingo parlor. Capiche?


Gravatar "ow,

So do you have any "facts" about non-corruption to present? Not heresay, facts."

Yeah...try to prove a negative...that will work. Can you prove there's not a teapot orbiting Pluto? I think not.

Mike Nelson: can you prove you are not an idiot?




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