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"...a magnificent case of bringing down the walls of partisanship and race for the sake of the country."
You have found the silver lining.
Great report! As an American, my thoughts and prayers are with the Iraqi people. It is truly the time to stand up as a country. Iraq needs to show the rest of the world leadership by example. Reject extremism, and promote literacy and critical thought.
Long live a FREE Iraq!
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Very good article! I do worry though about the tilt the country has made to the LEFT and Socialism.
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Well put Mohammed!
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Thank you Mohammed for being such a great friend and thank you for your comments concerning Bush. His treatment by some has been disgusting at times and undeserving at best. I hope in the future he will be remembered for his courageous and unwavering support to help a nation. I hope Obama will be responsible and stay as long as needed in Iraq. I think the Iraqi Government will have a HUGE influence. God Bless you Mohammed . I hope your Studies are going great unless you are finished already? Take care and God bless your Family
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Time will tell my friends. But the true lovers of liberty stand ready as guards of a sacred trust should enemies of freedom abuse their powers. Islamic and secular tyrants and extremists will not have the final say.
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C.J.;
Sounds good, except that it is 180 degrees out of sync with reality. He won with airy promises to the free-riders and global, pre-emptive accusations of racism against anyone who opposed him.
The butcher's bill for both those will be very large.
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I agree with the others Mohammed - great article. I voted for McCain but I'm willing to give Obama a chance. And I really can't believe that he will allow Iraq to sink back into chaos. How could any American president do that?
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Very nice to hear such a complimentary commentary.
I am the mother of two US Marines one who has served in Iraq and I am not alone in my feelings of a desire for a complete mission and that your country will be secure and safe from terroism and prosper. My prayers go out to you.
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God Bless Veterans!! 
HAPPY VETS DAY TO ALL & THEIR FAMILIES!! 
God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!
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Obama will abandon Kurdistan just like he'll forget about other nations.
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.c...eorgia-
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We need to be very careful.
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Obama may forget Kurdistan like other small nations
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.c...eorgia-
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We need to be careful. We only get one shot at this.
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but i do agree that this is a victory for American values
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When will we see a Copt become president in Egypt? When will we see a Kurd become president in Turkey? Will we ever see Iran led by someone who isn’t Shiite?
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Well, those are shitty countries. Forgive my french. This is YOUR problem : solve it.
Anyway, you´re kind of wrong because :
In Morocco, the main advisor of the king is jewish...
In Iraq, the number 2 of Saddam Hussein regime was a christian...
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Due to foreign contributions, massive vote fraud, Black panther- night stick carrying poll watchers, and the ejection of GOP poll watchers from polls, I hold that this president and election are illegitimate.
I will give Obama the same respect and deference that the left showed President Bush for the last 8 years.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
Watching - waiting ... wolverines!
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Saying you are a christian doesn't make you one anymore than saying you are a car makes you a car.
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Thanked a vet today?
It's OK you can do it tomorrow ... and the next day ... well ... you get it
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How could any American president do that?
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fr$endly persuas$on??
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Micheal Yon: Today I am in Kuwait, heading
back into Iraq for an end-of-year round-up.
[Nobody suffers more at the hands of
Islamic terrorists than other Muslims.
[snip]
While the Iraq war began, then boiled and finally cooled before President-elect Obama will be sworn into office on January 20th, 2009, the Afghanistan-Pakistan spectacle is just getting started. He was always a fierce opponent of our involvement in Iraq. And, as with so many Democrats in the Senate, he argued frequently, during the campaign, that we should have been focused on Afghanistan all along, because it is the real incubator of the international terrorist threat. Timing being everything, our new President will get his wish. Afghanistan now moves to center stage. The conflicts in Afghanistan and between Afghanistan and Pakistan have the simmering potential to overshadow anything we’ve seen in Iraq. Here are a few things I hope he understands:
Our enemies are winning. The enemies know it. We know it. Who are they? The Taliban, with its deep local roots is enemy number one. Al Qaeda is hanging around to make trouble. Some Paks, who don't want to see a thriving Pushtun state on their border, are our enemies. They fund and shelter the Taliban even though we rely on them to help us defeat it. Nothing is straightforward in this part of the world. We have other enemies in Afghanistan who hate the Taliban.
Most of our allies are not very helpful. With the exception of the British, Canadians, Dutch and a few others such as the Aussies, we are not fighting this with an “A-team” of international allies. With a few exceptions, our allies on the ground are comprised of several dozens of countries that mostly refuse to fight. The bulk of NATO amounts to little more than a “Taliban” Piñata. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization is proving nearly worthless and provides no credible threat to Armed Opposition Groups (AOGs) in Afghanistan. Most of the NATO member countries seem to break out in a cold sweat at the mere mention of “Taliban.” They piled in when the war looked easy, and largely humanitarian. But now that it’s getting harder and more dangerous, they would like to pile out.]
MY was on the Laura Ingraham talk radio
show today (11th).. he is back in Iraq..
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Michael J. Totten
Killing a Crocodile
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[Last week the United States military conducted a raid inside Syria and killed Al Qaeda leader Abu Ghadiya in a shootout in the village of Sukariyeh. Syria’s government raged against the violation of its sovereignty and staged a massive anti-American protest in downtown Damascus. But, according to the Times of London, the Syrian government itself may have quietly green-lighted the raid in advance.
No one should be surprised if that turns out to be true. It makes perfect sense.
“Syria's interest is to see the invaders defeated in Iraq,” Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk Shara said in 2003. And so, for years, Bashar Assad’s government supported the flow of Al Qaeda terrorists into Iraq. The reason should be apparent enough. Syria is a state sponsor of terrorism and does not want to be “next.” The last thing either the Syrian or Iranian governments have wanted to see was a quick, easy, successful, and locally welcomed regime change in Iraq. The Iraqi insurgency was their life-insurance policy. It kept American troops busy somewhere else and hollowed out any potential American appetite for the demolition of another belligerent dictatorship in the Middle East.
Assad’s support for Al Qaeda is mostly cynical, though. He hardly shares the group’s ultimate goals. Another reason he helps them make their way to Iraq is because, in all likelihood, he’s delighted to watch them impale themselves on American forces.]
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Mohammed, That was a wonderful post!I have been missing you!As always, you are so gracious to us here in the usa.Thank you! I will get off topic here just for a bit.Bg, I think you are the one who introduced us to Ken Ferguson,His web site is TheResting Place. He has recently passed away due to cancer.He has 2 new songs HE must have written just before his death, touched me deeply. Hope you all will hop over and listen Jackie J
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via TLWJ
Iraqi troops kill senior al Qaeda in Iraq leader
[Iraqi troops scored a blow against al Qaeda in Iraq's network during a series of operations in the Tarmiyah region. Iraqi soldiers, backed by the local Sons of Iraq and US troops, killed Abu Ghazwan, a senior al Qaeda in Iraq leader, during a shootout.
Ghazwan was killed after the joint forces were sweeping a region near Tarmiyah that was thought to contain weapons caches and was a location of enemy activity. The Iraqi and US forces were attacked with small arms fire and an land mine as they searched a location. Iraq troops returned fire and later found Ghazwan dead.
Ghazwan, whose real name is Saad Ismael Abdul Salah al Hiyali, was a senior al Qaeda leader in the regions north of Baghdad in Salahadin and northern Baghdad province. He was a direct associate of al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Ayyub al Masri.]

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MNF.. 
FJI.. 
Unity.. 
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Walid Phares
[Of course that is the real question. Is the next administration really looking forward to change the strategy against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban or are they trying to change the enemy. That is the big question because simply bringing forces to Afghanistan of course because those forces are needed there. But, who is the ally against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda? Of course it is the democratically elected government of Pakistan who is fighting already the Taliban with us.
If we are going to go to the Iranian Regime and ask them to become our ally quote-unquote against Al-Qaeda. Number One- They are not going to accept to establish in Kabul that is in Afghanistan a regime that would be democratic. That's exactly the opposite of what they want. And, second- What would be their conditions? Can we be their allies in Afghanistan and then tell them "please we don't want you to have the nuclear bomb" at the same time?]
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"Due to foreign contributions, massive vote fraud, Black panther- night stick carrying poll watchers, and the ejection of GOP poll watchers from polls, I hold that this president and election are illegitimate."
Are you totally insane? If ANY of this were true, don't you think the Republican losers of the election would not have been all over it like a rash? How many thousands of lawyers did they have supervising the conduct of the election?
This is one of the biggest cases of sour grapes I've ever come across.
Where's your evidence? A Youtube video??
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".... killed Abu Ghazwan, a senior al Qaeda in Iraq leader"
Cool. But frankly, how many "senior al Qaeda" have been killed already ?
Score of them. And we still have +150.000 guys there...
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Thank you for your gracious wishes. I just pray that BO will see the wisdom of allowing our troops to see their way to victory in Iraq!
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...,450552,00.html
Has the situation improved so much in one year that U.S. Forces are not needed in Iraq's cities? I have no doubt that this is true for many cities but is it true for all cities?
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Some folks just don't get the concept "long war". Bush stated this from the outset, the war against islamic tyranny, terror and extremism would be a long war. Guess what? He meant it. The Islamic War against western civilzation has been ongoing the the founding of the religion.
From the Middle East and North Africa to Vienna to Tripoli to Israel, it has raged for centuries. It will continue until one side is defeated. Get used to it, Dude.
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Patriots are watching Obama ...
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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Perhaps if they taught unrevisionist world history and american history, we have would have a generation of informed leaders instead of zombie lemmings.
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New college fight song
All Hail Obama, He is my savior
Give me free college, give me a car,
He will wipe my fanny, be my nanny,
Why get a job, lets go to a bar!
All Hail Obama, he loves the bunnies,
He is smart and he talks really cool,
Don't care what he thinks, just give me a drink!
All hail Obama our savior and lord!
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The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post From the Front: 11/12/2008 News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.
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Dear Mohammed
This is an excellent post.
Your reasonings are great.
Very well written.
We thank Bush/ Blair and their people for our freedom and democracy, and this election has shown Iraqis how democracy works in practical terms.
There will be a Regime change on 20th January 2009. That change was done through the Ballets and through the bullets, as in some, if not all of the rest of the 21 Arab countries.
Let us hope Iraq’s future is not jeopardised by narrow political agenda that looks for effect and not substance.
The American people have chosen their president for the next four years and good luck to them.
The Bipartisan idea of Obama is great, and is intended to heal wounds and the division that were naturally surfaced thoughout the Election.
I am sure I do not need to tell him, but when push comes to shove, three areas should be considered, the foreign policy consistency, the economic recovery trail and the Defence lines of communications and command and control should not be tampered with.
The country is at war on two fronts and the third one is economic which unleashed itself.
Please do not leave Iraq before it is well enough to run itself. You will win a lasting friendship with the people of Iraq. They need a little more time to get to grips with their situation.
Help us to keep the vultures out, please.
Kind regards
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Secretariat of the Council of Ministers nominated Maliki to win the Nobel Peace Prize
(Voice of Iraq) - 12-11-2008
Nominated by the General Secretariat of the Council of Minister Nuri al-Maliki to win the Nobel Peace Prize.
An official source in the follow-up and coordination in the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers in a statement addressed to the press service of the National Center for the media to name a prime minister to win the Nobel Prize in 2009 came for his role in establishing peace and security in Iraq.
The General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers and the ministries were to nominate a candidate for each ministry for the award
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If they ask me to use the purple ink I will put all my five fingures in in approval.
That man did so much good for Iraq, and the Iraqi reconcilliations process, and saved so many American military lives and other Iraqi lives, he deserves this nomination and this honour.
The Iraqis everywhere should be proud of him.
Sir, if you are reading this, I pray to al mighty to guide the others to choose you.
Kind regards
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Kurdistan Is a Model for Iraq
Our path to a secular, federal
democracy is inspired by the U.S.
By MASOUD BARZANI
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[Iraq's Kurds have consistently been America's closest allies in Iraq. Our Peshmerga forces fought alongside the U.S. military to liberate the country, suffering more casualties than any other U.S. ally.
And while some Iraqi politicians have challenged the U.S.-Iraq security agreement, Iraq's Kurdish leaders have endorsed the pact as essential for U.S. combat troops to continue fighting terrorists in Iraq.
The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) is committed to a federal, democratic Iraq that is at peace with its neighbors.
We have benefited enormously from the service and sacrifices of America's armed forces and their families, and we are deeply grateful. We are also proud to have shared in such sacrifices; my brother was among those severely wounded during the liberation of Iraq.
Last year, following a U.S. request, we deployed Kurdish troops to Baghdad. These troops played a decisive role in the success of the surge. Last month I once again visited Baghdad to meet with the leadership of the federal government. We stressed our commitment to developing an Iraqi state that abides by its constitution and that is based upon a federal model with clearly delineated powers for its regions.
In spite of all this, some commentators now suggest that the Kurds are causing problems by insisting on territorial demands and proceeding with the development of Kurdistan's oil resources. These allegations are troubling. We are proceeding entirely in accord with the Iraqi constitution, implementing provisions that were brokered by the U.S.]
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The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace
i totally agree!! 
hey, one man could only do so much swimming upstream
against what seemed to be a tide of crazed bears taking
bites out of him 24-7-365 from dawn til dusk..
God Bless & Thank You President Bush!!
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you may be forgetting that the good news (progress) wasn't being reported anywhere from 3 months to a year (average 6 months) behind real time..
besides, that's been the plan all along, and the
only way to find out is to get niké & go for it!!
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Wonderful and true words, Mohammed. Thanks for being an idealistic truth-teller. I generally am quite optimistic about mankind achieving real civilization and see no reason to be pessimistic here.
As for this thread, I think I smell 3 rats: Foddy (as always) Wolverine (sounds like a ringer) and "Dude".
Looks like the trolls are starting up again. They must think they might win. I think a troll victory is unlikely, since so much progress has been made in Iraq. More work remains, but I doubt that trolls can influence this.
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Wolverine | Homepage | 11.11.08 - 7:48 pm | 
mandatory civil service plan.. 
excerpt:
[SMITH: I meant to ask you about the universal service piece of the plan. Can you tell me about it? Like, how is this going to work? Are people going to live in barracks?
EMANUEL: Universal Civil Defense Training... I think he had it at 18, but we were saying somewhere between the ages of 18 and 25, you will do three months of training. You can do it in your(inaudible). Some point in college you can do just that. There can be nothing wrong with all Americans having a joint similar experience of civil... what we call civil defense training or civil service... some sense of service to country in preparation, which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American. We propose three months. At the end of the day someone says it should be four more. I’m not going to sit here and hold it up.
SMITH: I mean it’s a lot more than the U.S. government asks of anybody right now.
EMANUEL: Guess what? We have a lot more challenges, so we are going to need a lot to do it.
SMITH: I mean I don’t mean to get hung up on the aesthetics of it, but like uniforms... is it like Europe... people go absent?
EMANUEL: If you’re worried about going to have to do 50 jumping jacks, the answer is “yes.”]
"The (Rham) Plan"
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GOP Congressman Warns of Obama Dictatorship
["We've got to have a civilian national
security force that's just as powerful,
just as strong, just as well funded."]
& it's official, the Obamanoughts
have taken over the asylum.. 
Obama promises “change”
“hope” and transparency.
excerpt:
[Yesterday the big talk in political chat rooms was Obama's yet to be released medical record. Obama may still need prescribed medications for mental related issues. It is suspected that he has not been taking his medications consistently because of several episode at recently campaign rallies.
A person diagnosed with schizophrenia may demonstrate auditory hallucinations, delusions, and disorganized and unusual thinking and speech; this may range from loss of train of thought and subject flow, with sentences only loosely connected in meaning, to incoherence, known as word salad, in severe cases.
This video shows classic schizo speech patterns. The Obama campaign has stated that no medical records will be released.
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Barack Obama stands alone in the last three elections as the only candidate to not release medical records to the public.
Gore did it in 1999: Gore’s Health ‘Outstanding,’ Doctors Say
Bush released medical and service records in 2000 and again in 2004: Bush releases his Vietnam-era military files
Though there were some questions, Kerry released records in 2004: Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records.
Senator Barack Obama released, in May, a one-page letter from his primary care doctor, who had not even seen him in 18 months. The Obama campaign has stated that no medical records will be released, the letter from the stating that he his currently in good heath will have to suffice.
Dr. David L. Scheiner, MD on staff at the University of Chicago Hospital and Rush University Medical Center has been Obama's primary care physician since March of 1987 and has recently completed a review of Obama's records for the last 21 years.
But Obama has refused to grant access for an independent public review of the records. The medical records join Obama’s college and university records as parts of the candidate’s past that is off-limits.
Where Obama was born is also off-limits. We won’t address the senator’s birth records: that’s another subject.
The refusal of the Obama campaign to release records any American has to provide to secure employment is a puzzler: Obama promises “change” and “hope” and transparency.]
that would go a long ways in explaining this..
(& many of Uh-bama's other salad speeches)
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Wolverine - no troll here - Ricky bin Ricardo and I - we are tight baby!
Wolverines!
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Instead of a mandatory service plan, how about all the welfare folks getting off their fat asses and cleaning up the country.
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We are already paying for that.
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Due to foreign contributions, massive vote fraud, Black panther- night stick carrying poll watchers, and the ejection of GOP poll watchers from polls, I hold that this president and election are illegitimate.
I will give Obama the same respect and deference that the left showed President Bush for the last 8 years.
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Hear! Hear!
Cross-post:
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"I've yet to meet up with a conservative, a Republican or a McCain voter not aware of and moved by this aspect of the election's outcome."
Well, you've just met one.
Given that the race card was deployed in a mostly dishonest and destructive manner (anyone opposing Omposter was de facto racist), and given that the real racists are the Black Liberation Theology politicians behind the Omposter, the celebrations are a sick charade, fueled by delusion and deception.
There will be a HUGE Butcher's Bill to pay for that cynical abuse of prejudice and Hope Of Free Lunchtime. And the first big installments will start coming due real soon now.
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Sorry, guys and gals. It wasn't about "patriotism" or "plurality", it was about party all the way. Democrats as a whole would vote for Hitler if his name were followed by a (D). Republicans lost because they were divided over an "imperfect" conservative. The lesson for Republicans is: "Party trumps personality" if they ever have any hope of seeing anything close to their agenda regain power.
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http://wolverinedawn.blogspot.com/
take part in my poll - who would you like to see as the GOP presidential candidate in 2012
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Universal Change
Obama will call on citizens
of all ages to serve America
"Those who cannot remember the past are
condemned to repeat it." George Santayana
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i sort of agree.. however, i firmly believe the Obama fix was
in from the get go, and that is why the MSM chose McCain
to run against him..
btw: i said that from the get go, even
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And the first big installments will
start coming due real soon now.
Brian H | 11.12.08 - 5:19 pm |
via GP
Obama tax cuts shelved
you know what.. people are so enraptured in Obama i
don't think anything he did or didn't do would matter..
sometimes i feel like i'm living the real life version
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Egyptian Scholar:
Twice as Many Iraqis Died During Clinton Years
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[In a fatwa published on the eve of the U.S. elections, Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi expressed his preference for Sen. John McCain as president: "Personally, I would prefer for the Republican candidate, [John] McCain, to be elected. This is because I prefer the obvious enemy who does not hypocritically [conceal] his hostility toward you... to the enemy who wears a mask [of friendliness]."
Al-Qaradhawi added: "Whoever thinks that the Democrats are less hostile to [the Arabs] than the Republicans should know that the number of Iraqis killed during the siege [of Iraq] by the Democrat Bill Clinton is twice as high as the number of [Iraqis] killed by the Republican [George] Bush.
"The Democrats kill you slowly without you noticing it - and therein lies the danger. They are like a snake whose touch is not felt until its poison enters your body.]
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http://tinyurl.com/5r8czd
from which I quote:
" . . . As they and others have argued, Emanuel’s reputation is that of a centrist, who has often sought to reign in the left-wing of his party, “who does not share the reflexively liberal views of many of his House colleagues.” That judgment was seconded by Rep. Jim McCrery (R-LA) who said that Emanuel “is closer to the center, from a policy standpoint, than many of the Democratic Party.” It was also shared by Lindsey Graham, who said that while a “tough partisan, he understands the need to work together.” Graham called him “honest, direct, and candid” and a man who will “work to find common ground.”
You wouldn’t know this, however, if you were listening to and taking your cues from right-wing talk radio. It doesn’t matter to which radio host you listen to. What you hear is a chorus that seems to think Obama’s Presidency will be the coming of some form of leftwing totalitarianism to America, in which the new Administration will shut down free speech on the radio, force socialized medicine down the nation’s throat, increase the capital gains tax instead of repeal it, give the trade unions more power over the economy and politics, etc. . . . "
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Syria’s government raged against the violation of its sovereignty and staged a massive anti-American protest in downtown Damascus.
What the media never tells ya is that all these "demonstrations" are planned and coorridnated by the government. Most the actors in them are government employess and/or their families. Also, business owners in Damascuss know that they must close their businesses and join in or they will be hit by terrible "accidents" like fire within a couple of days.
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"It is liberty and democracy that allowed America to become the great humane and mature nation that she is."
awesome! this is especially awesome coming from a citizen of a country that we have been fighting part of a war in for years. this gives great insight into what we have done and what we are doing. and to think that this citizen of iraq has had the opportunity to even come to the US to study to better their life in a way that was almost impossible just a few years ago.
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8,000 Beduins stake their claim
as the lost tribe of Barack Obama
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We Blew It
excerpt:
[Let us bend over and kiss our ass goodbye. Our 28-year conservative opportunity to fix the moral and practical boundaries of government is gone--gone with the bear market and the Bear Stearns and the bear that's headed off to do you-know-what in the woods on our philosophy.
An entire generation has been born, grown up, and had families of its own since Ronald Reagan was elected. And where is the world we promised these children of the Conservative Age? Where is this land of freedom and responsibility, knowledge, opportunity, accomplishment, honor, truth, trust, and one boring hour each week spent in itchy clothes at church, synagogue, or mosque? It lies in ruins at our feet, as well it might, since we ourselves kicked the shining city upon a hill into dust and rubble. The progeny of the Reagan Revolution will live instead in the universe that revolves around Hyde Park.
Mind you, they won't live in Hyde Park. Those leafy precincts will be reserved for the micromanagers and macro-apparatchiks of liberalism--for Secretary of the Department of Peace Bill Ayers and Secretary of the Department of Fairness Bernardine Dohrn. The formerly independent citizens of our previously self-governed nation will live, as I said, around Hyde Park. They will make what homes they can in the physical, ethical, and intellectual slums of the South Side of Chicago.
The South Side of Chicago is what everyplace in America will be once the Democratic administration and filibuster-resistant Democratic Congress have tackled global warming, sustainability, green alternatives to coal and oil, subprime mortgage foreclosures, consumer protection, business oversight, financial regulation, health care reform, taxes on the "rich," and urban sprawl. The Democrats will have plenty of time to do all this because conservatism, if it is ever reborn, will not come again in the lifetime of anyone old enough to be rounded up by ACORN and shipped to the polling booths.
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The real message of the conservative pro-life position is that we're in favor of living. We consider people--with a few obvious exceptions--to be assets. Liberals consider people to be nuisances. People are always needing more government resources to feed, house, and clothe them and to pick up the trash around their FEMA trailers and to make sure their self-esteem is high enough to join community organizers lobbying for more government resources.
If the citizenry insists that abortion remain legal--and, in a passive and conflicted way, the citizenry seems to be doing so--then give the issue a rest. Meanwhile we can, with the public's blessing, refuse to spend taxpayers' money on killing, circumscribe the timing and method of taking a human life, make sure parental consent is obtained when underage girls are involved, and tar and feather teenage boys and run them out of town on a rail. The law cannot be made identical with morality. Scan the list of the Ten Commandments and see how many could be enforced even by Rudy Giuliani.
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What will destroy our country and us is not the financial crisis but the fact that liberals think the free market is some kind of sect or cult, which conservatives have asked Americans to take on faith. That's not what the free market is. The free market is just a measurement, a device to tell us what people are willing to pay for any given thing at any given moment. The free market is a bathroom scale. You may hate what you see when you step on the scale. "Jeeze, 230 pounds!" But you can't pass a law making yourself weigh 185. Liberals think you can. And voters--all the voters, right up to the tippy-top corner office of Goldman Sachs--think so too.
We, the conservatives, who do understand the free market, had the responsibility to--as it were--foreclose upon this mess. The market is a measurement, but that measuring does not work to the advantage of a nation or its citizens unless the assessments of volume, circumference, and weight are conducted with transparency and under the rule of law. We've had the rule of law largely in our hands since 1980. Where is the transparency? It's one more job we botched.
Although I must say we're doing good work on our final task--attaching the garden hose to our car's exhaust pipe and running it in through a vent window. Barack and Michelle will be by in a moment with some subsidized ethanol to top up our gas tank. And then we can turn the key.]
read the whole thing if you dare.. 
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Foddy | Homepage | 11.12.08 - 9:48 pm |
you would be wrong about both he & me, and you do know it..
please go find someone else to bug.. i've had more than my
fair share of your idiotic tit for tat nonsense based on nano
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ps: i'm not a huge PJM fan unless their article's align
with others via a "trust but verify" modus operandi..
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ht Lucianne
Al-Maliki up for Nobel prize
[Baghdad - The Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was nominated on Wednesday for the Nobel Peace Prize, according to a government source.
The government nominated Maliki for his efforts in sustaining peace in Iraq, the Iraqi national information centre said in a statement quoted by the Voices of Iraq (VOI) news agency.]
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Obama Cannot Be President
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bg | 11.12.08 - 1:52 pm |
Kurdistan wants independance from the rest of Iraq. The Americans have said NO. I am sure the Arabs do not mind, as it is costing them plenty.
To my mind, they should have theirs and be friends with the rest of the Iraqis rather than be hostile while receiving IRAQI public money from its main Budget.
The rest of Iraq will save a lot of money if they do not have Kurdistan to worry about.
They cannot have it both ways. Behaving as if they are another country and yet receive money, employements and goods from the central purse.
The constitution which in parts was leaning towards the Kurdish pure interests was negotiated under - almost blackmail circumstances and arm twisting of the parties involved. I followed that from here as they were being Shaphreded by Bremer, and wondered.
Therefore, the constitutional clauses that were related to the Oil and other country's minerals, development and explorations and Oil contracts must be frozen, by parliament and must be reviewed and put to the people in a referendum.
Now that Iraq is settling down, and democracy is getting hold, the ideas of what is yours is mine and what is mine is my own should be thrown out.
All the Kurds in Baghdad and elsewhere should be told to go back to Kurdistan and create an India Pakistan like partition.
All Kurdish Minsiters including the President should be sent back to Kurdistan. Visa requirements should be imposed on all Kurds coming to the Arab provinces.
Then again I could be wrong here.
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Barack the schizophrenic, now and then off his meds:
http://www.ghostofaflea.com/arch...ves/
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This guy represents more minorities and special interest groups than I can keep track of!

As pointed out in the article, reveals why he adamantly refuses to release his medical records.
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Dear O and M
When freedom reigns the iraqis are creative and brilliant.
Three of them won three medals for their inventions in Kuwait.
Please read on: We are proud of them.
Iraq to claim prizes Kuwait International Fair of Inventions
(Voice of Iraq) - 12-11-2008
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Iraq won three awards in the Middle East Exhibition of Inventions, second place in Kuwait now. I like Iraq where a delegation that included five inventors of the Ministry of Science and Technology in addition to the head of the delegation, Mr. Director-General of the Department of Planning and Follow-up in the ministry.
It has won the Dr. Salah Khalaf Cup first prize for the best invention of the invention is marked by many to detect bacterial contamination in drinking water, as has Dr. Mohammed al-Hamadani Medal for his invention marked (Method of rapid investigation Altaktt disease in barley), or Mr. Mahmoud Hussein has been made Hajim Medal for his invention wing fan, which is Bifida and a new propellent system for ships and barges and who is a U.S. patent.
It is worth mentioning that Kuwait Scientific Club headed by board chairman Professor Iyad Jassem al-Kharafi, who oversaw For the second consecutive year at the exhibition, in which more than thirty-five countries and more than one hundred and seventy invention. It was attended by a number of international personalities on the Evaluation of inventions and innovations and the patronage of His Highness the Amir of Kuwait Sheikh Sabah al-Ahmad al-Sabah.
The Iraqi wing won the admiration of many delegations and personalities participating. The delegation comprised the ministry in addition to the above winners by Ms. Iman Hindi Nasserite Ms. Iktifa Mezher Hasnawi.
Well done free Iraqis.
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Dear O and M
We regret the passing of the first Iraqi lady classical musician at the age of 80 in the USA. Patricia Ohanisian. Child portege from the age of 10. Pianist of the first order in Iraq.
Glad to knwo people are sending their children to learn and play Music in Iraq.
There were 20-30 muisicians, the schools of muisc have enrolled more than 120 Iraqis.
Hopefully the Iraqi Symphony Orchestra will be completed soon. So as to provide joy and happiness to the Iraqis.
Kind regards
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you may be forgetting that the good news (progress) wasn't being reported anywhere from 3 months to a year (average 6 months) behind real time.
bg | 11.12.08 - 2:27 pm |
Since my news doesn't come from the MSM, what they do or do not report is irrelevant. What is relevant is the status of the Iraqi forces in any given area. A year ago, Iraqi civilians didn't trust Iraqi forces. Nothing that I have read claimed that all Iraqi forces are now ready to enforce the rule of law equally for all Iraqis.
My guess is that some units of Iraq's forces are more aligned with Iran than with Iraq. If U.S. troops withdraw from ALL cities, who will ensure that some in Iraq's forces will not act to Iran's benefit?
"that's been the plan all along"
There have been plans all along to withdraw U.S. forces when the Iraqi forces are ready to assume control. I am questioning whether it is that time in all areas of Iraq and hope that the plan to withdraw our troops is not applied in areas that are not ready.
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Dear O and M
Baghdad's day celebrations tomorrow 15th November, and every year.
It should also hold 'Baghdad's Bikatheon' for Charity. We organise one each july in three venues in London. we meaning Luckamea research Fund. One was set off from Ham Commom- Richmond by Sir Trevor Macdonald.
In one we raised on 13th July this year. more than one million US dolars from sponsores, two maratheons lengths, one and half one.
I have discussed this with the organisers and wanted them to help us do it in Baghdad for the Iraqi Cancer Children Fund.
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Baghdad Secretariat complete the preparations to celebrate the Day of Baghdad Saturday
BAGHDAD: Baghdad announced the secretariat to complete preparations for marking (on Iraq) in the fifteenth of November of each year, which falls Saturday this time.
A source information in the secretariat of Baghdad, told the independent press (Iba) today, Wednesday, the Mayor of Baghdad Sabir Issawi, said at a meeting chaired committees responsible for the preparation and prepare to celebrate: to celebrate b (on Iraq) this year will be a distinct and reflects the state of "security, peace and stability", which enjoy The decline of the capital on Monday after a wave by the ugly terrorists.
The source added that exhibits photographs that had been prepared which will be presented by the Secretariat of all circles in the wings reflect the different projects that had been completed and under implementation and the other under the Declaration reflects the magnitude of the efforts undertaken by the secretariat of Baghdad for the development of the capital and the advancement of service realities.
He said the major commemoration to be held at the gardens at the tenth Zawra Park on Saturday morning, which was next to a large number of calls to senior government officials and intellectual, literary figures and media include a number of his poems, words and artistic events which glorify Baghdad and its role in the cultural enrichment of human science And the arts, which ruled the world several centuries.
The Celebrating Baghdad also includes sports activities including the establishment of (maratheon running in Baghdad) from the gate of Baghdad and the northern city of Kadhimiya up to the Zawra park and river competitions and games (Zorjanp) as well as photo exhibits and displays of flowers and art performances in addition to many literary activities of the councils in Baghdad and other activities For a number of institutions and departments where there is a continued Celebrating Baghdad for three consecutive days.
Have a nice day Baghdad. We hope to be partly with you to share your joys then.
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read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence - then look around - yikes
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here's a good source..
another..
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This edition features stories on the Sons of Iraq transitioning into Iraqi Police roles, and U.S. Soldiers taking a behind the scenes stance for the Iraqi Police. 
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[that would go a long ways in explaining this..
(& many of Uh-bama's other salad speeches)]
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Iraqi Sunni guards join Shi'ite government payroll
[It's pay week for the patrolmen who helped flush al Qaeda militants out of their Baghdad neighborhoods. Only this time, it is the Shi'ite-led Iraqi government that is paying the mainly Sunni fighters, rather than the U.S. military.
Putting the fighters, many of whom were once insurgents, on the payroll of a government they once fought is seen as a major test of reconciliation as U.S. troops prepare to withdraw.
The Iraqi army began paying them at dozens of stations opened this week throughout Baghdad.
The U.S. military says the fighters number 100,000, about half of them in Baghdad province. The government took charge of the Baghdad fighters last month and plans to take on those in other parts of the country in coming months.]
U.S. troops to quit Iraqi cities in strategic shift
[The U.S. is on track to complete its shift out of all Iraqi cities by June 2009. That is one of the milestones in a political-military campaign plan devised in 2007 by Gen. David Petraeus, when he was the top U.S. commander in Iraq, and his political partner in Baghdad, Ambassador Ryan Crocker. The goal also is in a preliminary security pact with the Iraqi government on the future U.S. military presence.
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Brig. Gen. Martin Post, deputy commander of U.S. forces in western Iraq, where the Sunni insurgency has sharply abated — if not almost disappeared — since 2007, said Monday his outfit is shutting down the U.S. base at Fallujah. The U.S. headquarters elements there are moving to al-Asad air base, a large but remote facility in the vast desert halfway between Fallujah and the Syrian border.
"There's been a big effort to move all the Marine forces out of the cities," Post said in a videoconference with reporters at the Pentagon. "And so as you go throughout, from Fallujah all the way up the Euphrates River Valley, up to al-Qaim — where we used to have Marines actually living in the cities — we've pulled them all out."]
Earth to the nay saying doomers & gloomers, the above
sure spells, smells & sounds like "VICTORY" to me!! 
but you will never read that in print
via the M(arxist) S(oros) M(achine)..
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Hameed Abid | 11.13.08 - 6:14 am |
eh, you could be (but then again i've neither
inside info nor any axe to grind per se..) 
albeit mostly old (& opinionated) news per
se.. i found it entertainingly interesting..
Iran tightens screws on Iraq's Kurds ( 9/03/08 )
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ooh, my BD will live on in BD, how is that!! 
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gee, i wonder what we'll pay them for beheading
infidels according to their holy jihad script?? (fill
in the blank)!!
between the Islamist Marxists
& the God Complex ed Elite..
WE R SCREWED SHEEPLE!!
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Lib Utopias Need a Bailout
hahahahaha blue states and blue cities jusr don't get it
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Wolverine | Homepage | 11.13.08 - 12:53 pm |
they were discussing that (again) this
morning via talk radio.. haven't got a
clue aside from misery loves company..
where do the millions upon millions
funneled into city, after town, after
district, after county, etc.. go??
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Dear bg, do not despair. Our country and movement has existed for over 200 years and we have an insanely clever mechanism for breaking up the power of would-be dictators. Sure, we take our lumps from time to time, but when the chips are down, the American people always come through.
Our enemies have not really seen our game face close up because we have not really exposed it much recently, outside of a few weeks after 9/11. The ordinary American may be lied to about our real interests, but if serious concrete evidence of statist violence becomes a street reality, heaven help those enemies because they will have awakened the sleeping tiger, a ferocious tiger that will consume them all. Just about every single American is used to making his own decisions about the fundamentals of his life. I think on some level, most of our enemies know this and try not to so baldly confront us. On occasion, they go to the edge towards such a confrontation, but seeing mounting anger, they tend to back off.
Of course the progressives will begin to manipulate the lives of Americans with more power that before the election, but I believe that will only begin to arouse the tiger in the next election, and a serious reversal will be experienced by the progressives.
The American Revolution endures.
Sincerly yours in liberty,
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In the Wolverine Super Pre-Primary 2012 GOP Prersidential Candidate Poll its Palin 55%, Jindal 22%, Newt 16%, Wolverine 5% and Romney 0%. Cast your vote!
http://wolverinedawn.blogspot.com/
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Foddy | 11.12.08 | 9:48 pm
That would be all well and done, but Rahm Emmanuel will not be the President. Obama will be. Ready to "seize power" and "'rule' from day one" as his no. 2 transition appointee Valerie Jarrett would say. Hoping to be backed by his "Citizen's Defense Corps" no doubt. But that's just how socialists(national[you] and international[Obama]) phrase things. Right?
BTW, how's your boyfriend gruppenfuhrer doing these days?
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leftie protestors assault church members during service in Lansing, MI
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Thank you, Mohammed, for a wonderful post.
It made me cry, because I love my country even more so when I see it through another's eyes.
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Dear M and O
We wish the Al Kindi Society of engineers in Uk the best of luck in its forthcoming Conference in Baghdad next week.
We wish to thank the PM for his and his government's support for this fine example of how a Government from the people, by the people serving the people of Iraq is behaving.
Many of the Iraqi highly qualified Engineers and Scientist want to serve their country in all honesty and want to pass on the knowledge and transfer of technology they learned outside of Iraq to their fellow Iraqi counterparts professionals inside to help reconstruct Iraq on the latest methods etc.
This opportunity will great for all.
Good luck Iraq.
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Activities: Iraqi expatriates living the second conference in Baghdad with the external and internal
(Voice of Iraq) - 13-11-2008
Google translation.
Al Kindi Society holds its second engineers confereence in Baghdad between 17 and Nov. 20, 2008 in the context of their support and contribution to reconstruction efforts in Iraq.
The Chairman of the Organizing Committee of the Conference and President of the Al Kindi engineers in Britain expected Tariq in a statement addressed to the press service of the National Center for media that the conference will see the participation of elite engineers and scientists Iraqis living inside Iraq and outside it.
Adding that the conference will focus on oil and gas industry, energy, environmental protection, transportation, infrastructure, housing, technology, communications and information technology.
He said the conference will hold 16 workshops on different areas mentioned.
The Engineer Tariq will be set up advisory committees comprising a group of Iraqi experts in the fields of engineering to develop a plan to attract broader participation of distinguished research and practical solutions that will be presented by engineers and specialists from academia and industry.
He pointed out that the conference would allow the international engineering companies to participate in reconstruction projects showcase their products and services in the course of holding on the sidelines of the conference.
He stressed that the government representating Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has supported them with a view of the success of the conference as a means of communication between the architects/engineers of Iraq at home and abroad.
He expressed the view that the Conference represents a real opportunity to exchange knowledge and experiences between engineers and scientists to revitalize the Iraqi reconstruction and capacity-building in Iraq on the basis of meaningful scientific approaches.
Good luck Al Kindi society of Engineers in Baghdad.
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The rest of Iraq will save a lot of money if they do not have Kurdistan to worry about.
They cannot have it both ways. Behaving as if they are another country and yet receive money, employements and goods from the central purse.
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Then again I could be wrong here.
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Seriously wrong.
Where do you think the "central purse" gets filled up from?
And what area of Iraq has a better economy and more security and investment than Kurdistan? Since long before the liberation of the Rest of Iraq?
Completely out to lunch, Hameed. Sorry.
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In the Wolverine Super Pre-Primary 2012 GOP Prersidential Candidate Poll its Palin 55%, Jindal 22%, Newt 16%, Wolverine 5% and Romney 0%. Cast your vote!
http://wolverinedawn.blogspot.com/
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Palin and Jindal Climbing, Newt falling, the other two ijits are about zeroed out. 
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Barack's Agenda (cached before being pulled from his site)
http://www.kvinet.com/~mack/
Hilarious sample:
End Deceptive Voting Practices
Obama will sign into law his legislation that establishes harsh penalties for those who have engaged in voter fraud and provides voters who have been misinformed with accurate and full information so they can vote.
I guess we couldn't be lucky enough that he'd slip and make it retroactive ... 
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Iraq’s interior minister, Jawad al-Bolani, a Shiite, supports the proposed status of forces agreement.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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Iraq's interior minister has criticized the country's politicians for not approving an agreement that would allow U.S. troops to operate in Iraq after the end of the year, and called their continued presence crucial.
"The security agreement is important for Iraq to ban and stop foreign influence and interference," minister Jawad al-Bolani said in an interview Wednesday. "The Iraqi people need this security agreement."
Bolani, one of the few top Shiite leaders to speak publicly in favor of the deal, said Iraqi politicians should declare their stances on it.
"They should be outspoken," he said. "You have to have a clear vision" that can be articulated.
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I read this article to say that some Iraqi politicians want the SOFA, and also want the freedom to say they are against it. That’s typical of politicians, and in this case, they may get what they are wishing for (aloud) instead of what they know they need.
Good luck, and God bless. The American voters were willing to take the Iraqis’ situation into account for the last election, but now they have turned to other matters.
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OMAR AND MOHAMMED!
NOVEMBER 14TH,2003!
HAPPY 5TH ANNIVERSARY TO YOUR BLOG!
AS ALWAYS,I CAN'T SAY THANK YOU
ENOUGH FOR STARTING IT!
AND TO ALL THE POSTERS OVER THE
YEARS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED U!
SOOOOOOO MANY NAMES TO MENTION!
U KNOW WHO U ARE!
AND I THANK U FOR INFO I HAVE LEARNED
FROM YA ALL..
AND THANKS TO OUR TROOPS!
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I see what you mean.
The question is why should the rest of Iraq suffer as a result of the procrastinations and delays of the OiL Law?
The constitution must change and soon.
The unfair advantages that were introduced by the Two Kurdish Parties may cause a rupture in the Iraqi Federation.
I like their methods and their systems and the peace and excellent security they now enjoy.
If the Kurds are keen on the rest of Iraq's security, they could have offered their expertise to Baghdad to help it istead of watching from the side lines as if they are spectators.
At present they appear to enjoy seeing the rest of Iraq suffer, whilest they attract the investors by saying we are safer than the rest of the Iraq. That is selfish and has no real patriotism to Iraq as a whole.
As I said I may be wrong here too.
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(Voice of Iraq) - 11-11-2008
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By: d. Mohammad al -
This has been the slogan manuscripts on the walls of Iraq's primary school teacher in tow, the primary trench and a school bully in the locality of the Republic of Basra, and I needed a small whole dirham (fifty fils), in session deduct money every day of his pocket money daily Odfh at the end of the school week after deprive myself of Aklp ( Albormp) Meet only buy (half lap Smbosp) or (Samun and Bulbi) b (15) fils only, in an attempt to apply the slogan (national)!.
When Trarena old enough and we have learned and review the facts're getting that we discovered that the logo (national) was (like) a lie, such as books (National Education and Nationalism) promoted by the ruling Baath party, then was moved by the feelings and the feelings and steal our oil Drihamna also stole over four decades, While filled the pockets of those who put Bdrihamna moving the logo!.
(Employment), (Altsagit), (treason) or (the interests of the country) and (national) and (patriotism) is the other terms were reported per day (time) without the knowledge of standards and controls interpreted and governed by God, not by the government (and time) Which was to become the people (all people) the name of preserving national unity! , As did the former head of the wars in the name of patriotism, those wars (national), which were not only to preserve the throne of the dictator!!
Vaghtrb hundreds of thousands of Iraqis because of (patriotism) and millions of them have emigrated in an attempt to escape the (national) dictator, and this scene took place (still) be repeated in many Arab and African countries knew we see (citizen) in those executed or arrested and tortured on charges of treason and to contact (Allegedly) aliens, while write-government newspapers in that country (national) government over the diplomatic victory achieved by following a deal with the same State, which was executed on charges related to the habitat!. Any punishment (execution) for the citizen and to reward the government for communicating with a (foreign) one.
All of these contradictions have made citizen anywhere in the confused and helpless (especially in Iraq), and made a living cultural and limited way of thinking based on the tremendous amount of slogans for a long period of dictatorship and the other because of different shocks with a narrow vision agreed to consider matters and away from Indeed, and adherence to slogans or try to return to deliberate or unintentional growth of illusion!.
May be the subject of agreements with the best example of this, especially those agreements or understandings with the so-called (Colonial), or deal with the prescribed (imperialism) and (usually) what is being billed Balkhianip conventions signed by the accused or employment, and here put the citizen The distraught these questions
Are the Government of Qatar and a traitor agent from the viewpoint of the people of the United States as the largest military base there? Are the Saudi operation, because of its strategic good and friendly with the United States? Is a puppet and a traitor Jordan because of its direct relations with Israel? Do the same thing applies to Arab Egypt?? Continues citizen Why arrested and executed because of the torment themselves rewarded by the official in the parliament or the government!?
It seems difficult to obtain clear answers to these questions with slogans and the accumulation of shocks governments to their citizens, to become citizens of despair and disappointment and confusion of concepts (Kalotunaip and employment) or the (Subsidiarity sovereignty), then talk about the sovereignty of the best interests of the homeland and the citizen, and (a distraught citizen ) Did not know that dependency is that the children go hungry and die of the disease and become mentally disturbed because of destitution, walking along a sea of oil! Does not know that independence is the improved standard of living and quality education, free medical good.
Then the tears Palm Ibst Saivadtha hypocrisy and longing seems to (Alkhisp) or black (Asiyan blue) and you fog in the capital Auandma roam in the Champs Elysees disconnect personality! Come let slogans to those who want to cheer and repeated Drihamna to restore stolen on behalf of the slogan that we started the article, as well as Dnanerna stolen every day under various names and terms of Atakhtlv far above the slogan, it's just an invitation to reflect away from slogans and away from the political and psychological trauma created by Dictatorships are still manufactured so far!.
D. Mohammed al (mohamadeltai@alfayhaa.tv)
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"VICTORY"
["THE WAR IS OVER AND WE WON:" Michael Yon just phoned from Baghdad, and reports that things are much better than he had expected, and he had expected things to be good. "There's nothing going on. I'm with the 10th Mountain Division, and about half of the guys I'm with haven't fired their weapons on this tour and they've been here eight months. And the place we're at, South Baghdad, used to be one of the worst places in Iraq. And now there's nothing going on. I've been walking my feet off and haven't seen anything. I've been asking Iraqis, 'do you think the violence will kick up again,' but even the Iraqi journalists are sounding optimistic now and they're usually dour." There's a little bit of violence here and there, but nothing that's a threat to the general situation. Plus, not only the Iraqi Army, but even the National Police are well thought of by the populace. Training from U.S. toops has paid off, he says, in building a rapport.
He says the big problem everybody is talking about now is corruption. But hey, we have that here, too. He'll be heading to Afghanistan next week. "Afghanistan is a bad situation, but on Iraq I can't believe things have turned out so well."
He thinks that Obama will be able to pull troops out, and send some to Afghanistan, without creating problems in Iraq.]
God Bless Michael Yon!
God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!
GREAT JOB US/COTW & IRAQ!! 
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JONESTOWN...
30 years later....
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Hameed Abid | 11.14.08 - 12:51 pm |
I've got to agree with Brian. Don't be so fast to condemn the Kurds.
I can't blame the Kurds for their position. The Arabs have treated them badly for centuries.
They put stuff in the Constitution to protect themselves. However, they had to negotiate those deals with the Arabs. Also, they made them generic enough that they can be applied to any region of Iraq.
Anbar is quite peaceful now and I hear that they think there's oil there. Anbar should be attracting oil exploration as well. My understanding is that Saddam knew there was oil there but didn't develop the fields because he didn't want any other Sunnis to get economic and political power.
The Kurds may have had a head start, but they can serve as a model for the rest of Iraq.
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Maliki tells Bush he now backs new U.S. troop deal
excerpt:
[Askari said Maliki, who'd won two last-minute concessions from the Bush administration, plans to address the nation to seek public support for the accord. He'll present it to the Cabinet on Sunday
“We can’t get anymore,” Askari said. “In practice the Americans they can’t do anything alone according to this agreement . . . He feels now after all the amendments that it’s not a perfect agreement, but that he [Maliki] can now go to the people and say look this is far better to accept this than the other options.”]
Then there's this:
["It will go to the record that he is the man that forced them (the U.S.) to leave."]
Damnit! Why is it that when you leave of your own accord, Arabs still want to call it "kicking you out?" When Israel left Gaza, the Palis partied like they had pushed the Jews into the sea. Puhleeeze!
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Oh Gawwwd. Somebody please plug that drain hole. The Fodstick found it's way back up out of the sewer. Before you know it we'll have Sod and Leech back here again.
Louise |
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Andrea/fall pj/s | 11.14.08 - 11:07 am | 
!!~ HAPPY ANNIVERSARY BRO'S ~!! 
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brothers have won against a very
mean man!!!
5 years later.....
They are still plugging away!!!!
What patriots of their country!
They get by with a "little help
from friends".......
HAPPY 5TH GUYS!!!!!!!!!!
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ht 1 via GP
The American Spectator
By George H. Wittman
November 14, 2008
Obama's War
excerpt:
[Barack Obama from the outset has tried to shift U.S. strategic focus from Iraq to Afghanistan. For some rather simplistic reason he thought there was greater legitimacy, and thus justification, for American military forces to be involved in the latter country. For Obama the fight to rid Afghanistan of the religiously tyrannical Taliban movement that has supported Osama bin Laden was righteous -- as opposed to freeing Iraq from the proven genocidal grasp of Saddam Hussein.
At this stage of affairs the mountainous Afghan border with Pakistan is purely a theoretical divider. Any military effort to counter the Taliban as well as drive Al Qaeda from the Afghan side therefore is made ineffectual by the Pakistani sanctuary. The key is Pakistan, and getting its effective support has been the principal American target for the last seven years. In other words, Barack Obama's approach to Afghanistan sounds good but recognizes none of the complexity endemic to the problem.
It may not be Obama's creation, but it is his chosen war. Welcome to the real world of international security, Mr. President-elect!]
God.Help.US.
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Kafir | 11.14.08 - 8:46 pm |
now calm down K..
it's a McClatchy report (another one famous for misinterpreting the Iraqi PM et al)..
par the MSM et al course they should get around to
reporting Maliki's correcting them in a day or two (if
the Obameister allows it anyways)..
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via TRBO (formerly RW)
m1media:
Barack Obama couldn’t work for Barack Obama
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Yes Mohammed, we will peacefully pass the power to the left. Ouch. 
You wrote an excellent article. I enjoyed it very much.
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Kafir | 11.14.08 - 8:32 pm |
Do not imagine I like to condemn the kurds.
I often wonder, if they consider themselves Iraqis first and kurdish second.
For example, I am an Iraqi first and an Arab second.
I was in the Iraqi Embassy in London Yesterday and have heard they are changing the Arabic words in their language into Kurdish, which is short sighted. It is like the English speaking countries changing Al Jebra and Al Kohol into other words?
I admire them for what they have achieved but unhappy about them not coming forth to help the Arabic. Turkoman sectors in Iraq with their expertise and management and organisational skills so far acquired with their headstarts.
I will be in Baghdad soon and I will discuss this issue with some of their leaders there when I meet them.
Kind regards
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"Before you know it we'll have Sod and Leech
back here again."
Louise | 11.14.08 - 8:53 pm
Probably not. You folks are sometimes hilarious to watch, especially because you have no clue how marginalized you are and how marginalized and insular you've made ITM. Given that, there's no longer much purpose to me wasting my time on ya.
(But, it was the brothers' own free choice to turn the editing of their comments' section over to a contingent of right-wing crazies. I gotta respect their decision on that and assume they got what they wanted here. So, I'll skim through now and then and get a few chuckles, but that's about it. Once in a great while I might have something to run by ya'll (as in the last thread), but that's likely gonna continue to be a most rare event.)
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bg | 11.13.08 - 12:03 pm |
bg, My original question still remains. I spent enough years in the military to know that "military intelligence" is an oxymoron. As a result high brass can set a goal but local commanders will change the goal into a command and follow that command when they shouldn't.
How many local commanders are saying "Yes Sir" when the local situation indicates that they should be saying "No Sir"? If a local commander shifts out of a city too soon and Iraqis die as a result, that commander might be revealed or receive a reprimand but the dead Iraqi will stay dead.
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In Abu Nawas .. Grilled Fish, safety and happy families
(Voice of Iraq) - 15-11-2008
Baghdad / supporter Abdul Wahab
Many cities in the world have famous places earmarked for specific types of cuisine .. pitza pasta and have earmarked places in the cities of Italy, for example, either in Baghdad the fish 'Almeskuv' its presence known on the shores of the Tigris and especially in Abu Nawas Street. After the security situation improved, families began to arrive on the street to spend time with beautiful fish meals Almeskuv.
We have entered into one of the restaurant owner told us .. Ihsan Abu Abboud was good «Almeskuv fish in the Abu Nawas has a special flavor The carp is wonderful and the Tigris good and fresh air and families CBS has a tradition to eat fish on the shores of the Tigris
In the past, the species is recognized «Alktan and carp and brown« But with the advent of «El Karer fish» taking pioneer seized on the table because it remains alive in the tub and this makes its sight attract visitors and make them wait for Aigomon The price is Vogllagha El Karer neighborhood .. kilo price is El Karer 15 thousand dinars, with comers and barbecue and services «
Faleh says a fish in the tub Abu Nawas «We use« wood »of the most valuable species because it affects the taste of grilled fish Fraihp« wood apple «transmitted to fish through smoke Barbecuing and families prefer to fish El Karer being alive and fresh and has not many bones hobby» and taste delicious too In the barbecue and even the kinds of El Karer «brochure and Silver», sizes and different Homtoffer throughout the year do not affect our work and always find endowed tubs .. ».
He expresses the owner of Dock «There are some fish come with the owners, we grille them .. But the prices of wood is so expensive .. Grilling continues to fish well until the hour «painting and Choi staying well» El Karer thickness and desired a stay alive in the basin opposite carp we grille it, dead. In the holiday seasons to double the number of Abu Nawas to fish Almeskuv ».
Hussein says Battat, a customer is expected Smokth Almeskuvh «river fish, especially the Iraqi marine fish is different from the one hundred because she believes that meat and savory» luxury »contrary to sea to be strong ... meat for this river to fish very tasty (Balskv) contrary to the highest quality and marine species Fish in the world is Iraq ... The meeting represents to me Abonowas Iraqi Although I am pure from Basra, but I come to Abu Nawas to enjoy fish and Almeskuv CBS wonderful atmosphere .. and when I sit in the Abu Nawas I feel the most beautiful place in the world «
While the fellow Abu Jalil »doing the most beautiful Baghdad is Abu Nawas thick Almeskuv and safety back to»
Oh! ABu Nowa'as, how I wish I could be there now.
Kind regards
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http://www.aec08.org/?p=1&lang=en
Dear O and M
The Iraqis are working hard, when they are free. Please see the above in English.
The organisation of this conference is intended to break the ice and show the world. Look we are here and we welcome you all, if you come to be with us in Peace.
Let us rebuild Iraq together as friends.
Good luck to Al Kindi Engineers Society on their second conference in Baghdad once more.
Thank you PM and his Ministers and the other participiants.
Kind regards
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Has the surg worked- hell yes - check out these videos ...
http://tinyurl.com/5nvuec
Wolverine |
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A lesson in manipulation of information.
This could all be very scarey,
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081...r/
obama_threats
until you read the article and find out that it contains few facts and NO numerical comparison whatsoever. It’s entire premise could simply be false.
And remember, there’s a big difference in the rate of reporting of certain kinds of news article. Remember this one?
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/
...the_Obama_Rally
Me, neither.
The MSM: only the news that suits their agenda.
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Wolverine | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 10:53 am |
thanks!! 
i sure have missed JD's Outside The Wire posts!!
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Richard B. | 11.15.08 - 9:08 am |
like i said..
there has to be a "when" sooner or later..
the "when" has obviously past &
in the process & working so far..
if it should all fall apart, we're
still there to bridge the gap..
what's that old saying, you don't know
what you've got till it's gone??
they need to find out what
they've got when we're gone..
and i say the Iraqis "have it more together"
than we give them credit for.. 
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MNF
FJI
THE WAR IN IRAQ IS OVER AND WE WON
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JR Garner | 11.13.08 - 3:53 pm | 
thank you.. 
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Baghdad bridge of death becomes bridge of hope
excerpt:
[Sunnis and Shi'ites made an emotional reach across the sectarian divide on Tuesday, reopening a Baghdad bridge between the two communities closed since a 2005 stampede, the deadliest incident of the war.
The Bridge of the Imams connects the Adhamiya and Kadhimiya neighborhoods of Baghdad , named for mediaeval Sunni and Shi'ite holy men whose landmark shrines on opposite sides of the Tigris are surrounded by homes of members of the separate communities.
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But on Tuesday Sunni children from Adhamiya raced to see their Shi'ite friends in Kadhimiya. Women from the two communities met up on the bridge, kissing and hugging each other with joy.
"When the faces met, the lips smiled, hands shook, bodies hugged, the tears flowed out of joy. This is the Iraqi citizen," said Sheikh Ahmed al-Samaraie, head of Iraq's Sunni Endowment, which runs Sunni religious offices and mosques in Iraq .
A banner across the bridge read: "The bridge of love and reconciliation between the people of Adhamiya and Kadhimiya."
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"This day is a remarkable day, a day of a great Iraq . The day of meeting, love, brotherhood, affinity ... The day we proved to the whole world that we are one nation," Sayyid Salih al-Haidari, Samaraie's Shi'ite counterpart said in a speech. Delegations accompanying the two officials then went to pray together at a nearby mosque.
[snip]
Sheikh Ihsan al-Tamimi, whose three sons and a nephew had been kidnapped and killed, had come to bury the hatchet.
"I am here today to show that an Iraqi can forgive a brother Iraqi , even if there is blood between them," he said.
Volleys of mortar rounds and gunfire had passed over the Tigris River between Kahdimiya and Adhamiya districts for years. Now each side slaughtered a sheep in each other's honor.
[snip]
"We came today to forget the wounds of the past," she said.]
GOD BLESS IRAQ/IS!! 
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I often wonder, if they consider themselves Iraqis first and kurdish second.
Hameed Abid | 11.15.08 - 7:29 am |
Oh, Hameed, no need to wonder. They consider themselves Kurdish first.
I think they can learn to consider themselves Iraqis first but it is going to take a long time for the wounds to heal.
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via TG
How Does One Plan For Irrationality?
[Wars, elections and stock markets, however, are sometimes irrational. Sometimes, if you build it, they shall come and burn it down.
For how else is one to explain that a little less than a week after the election, Arab and Middle Eastern commentators are up in arms over something that was not said by either Obama or his new chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, but rather a sentence uttered by Emanuel’s father that has been be taken to be an introduction to Obama’s new and insulting approach to Arabs? Dr. Benjamin Emanuel reportedly told Ma’ariv newspaper that his son would be pro-Israel, for "Why wouldn't he be? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floors of the White House." Now, I don’t know how it all sounded in Hebrew, but it seems innocuous enough: Of course Rahm will be helpful towards Israel, for he’s Jewish after all, not an Arab, and his position would be beneficial towards Israel, for he’s going to be the COS, not a janitor.
But the Arab world chose to hear those worlds as “Arabs are not fit to wipe the floors of the White House”—and it has spread like a bush fire, being mistaken on purpose by those who want to see the worst in America, as the official line of the new Obama administration: Arabs need not apply.
Welcome to an irrational world, President Obama.
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Factoring in irrationality as an established pattern is counter-intuitively difficult, maybe even impossible, for them. But that shall be the Middle East that they shall encounter: one where dwindling oil revenue drives regimes to more desperate methods of control; a region with jihadists running amok and starting fires of their own; ruling dynasties transitioning power to new and untested heirs; and thugs like Russia and China arm twisting their way to domination.
The Middle East is trending toward the chaotic and irrational, and question is, can the rookies on Obama’s new team even understand it, let alone lay plans for fixing it?
We don’t know how much clout they’ll have, but from the look of it, and the subdued nervousness of the old hands of the Democratic Party’s foreign policy establishment, the rookies have Obama’s ear for now.]
i believe Obama knows their world much
better than he does the one he lives in..
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bg;
In that Reuters article you mentioned at 8:17, there is a paragraph:
"Despite reconciliation between Adhamiya and Kadhimya, concrete blast walls still divide Baghdad districts, many along sectarian lines, making commuting difficult. Frequent bomb attacks still take a deadly toll."
O'Rly? How many in the last 2 weeks or so? "still" since when? Reuters seems to love these fact-free assertions.
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Iraq head, Top Cleric back 2011 Exit by US
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...1500679_pf.html
excerpts:
An aide to President-elect Barack Obama said Saturday that Obama supports the principle underlying the agreement but had not yet seen the specifics of the text. The aide recalled that, during the campaign, Obama said its completion before the end of the year was "critical . . . so that our troops have the protection they need."
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The agreement would not affect Obama's pledge to withdraw most U.S. combat forces within 16 months of his inauguration. The document says nothing about when a drawdown would begin, the rate of departure or accomplishing it earlier than 2011. ...
The agreement would transform the U.S. military role here, giving the Iraqi armed forces and court system a much greater say in security operations. U.S. officials have lobbied hard for the accord, saying that without some legal umbrella, the 150,000 U.S. troops in Iraq would have to start withdrawing at the end of this year.
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Just a tad bit of doublespeak.
The reason we have a chief executive is that legislatures are incapable of taking action within a reasonable time frame.
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gah!! it's old news & we all know that..
and i thought of saying something about it, but decided not
to highlight the the obvious gratuitous propaganda.. hence,
making a mountain out of a molehill in reverse..
at any rate, leave it to you to point out the MSM's disturbing habit of inserting doom & gloom in the midst of any news that even slightly suggests hope, happiness or healing in Iraq.. not to mention finally (late) reporting some of the very good news of any kind to begin with!!
God Bless Iraq!! 
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Mo, overall a good post but I must take humbrage with one paragraph;
People in the Middle East are amazed by the large number of white people and Republican voters who voted for the “other.” America — who is always accused of racism — has shown us that in fact our countries in the Middle East are where racism flourishes.
The implication is that it is surprizing that large numbers of whites and/or Republicans would vote for a black person. The actual truth is that the Republicans have led the fight for civil rights for decades and the Party was even founded on that very principle.
It was the Republicans, led by Lincoln, that pushed so hard for banning slavery that it led to the bloodiest war in the history of the States. The Democratic Party was divided into two factions, one that supported slavery and those that didn't.
And afterwards, Southern blacks had full rights including voting rights for a couple of decades. They lost those rights when the Democratic Party rose to power in the south and passed Jim Crowe laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and more to stop blacks from voting. Southern Democrats continued to oppress blacks for decades.
Fast-forward to the post WWII era. As the Civil Rights movement gathered strength, it was Republican Pres Eisenhower that sent federal troops to protect black students in Arkansas. He repeated that move in other venues across the nation.
In the sixties, it was Democrats Sen Al Gore Sr and Sen Fulbright that tried to filibuster the Civil Rights Act into oblivian. It was Democrat Fritz Hollings that put the rebel flag atop the S Carolina statehouse where it still flies today. It was Dem Gov Wallace that said "Segregation forever"
Later in the sixties, the faction of the Democratic Party that favored civil rights finally took over the party. They then proceeded with the Great Society programs that were designed to help poor blacks catch up with society but actually had a devastating affect on the people they tried to help.
The history of the Republican Party has been one of eqaul rights for all. But their biggest failure, just like the war in Iraq, has been to not boldly claim their heritage. Most people think the Repubs are racists just like most people believe the war in Iraq has been lost.
The Repubs have not spoken loudly of their accomplshments and rallied the people to its side. Intead, they have allowed the Dems and the media to twist reality to their own purposes. Repubs need to fight back.
BTW, did ya know that Martin Luther King was a Republican??
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Also, the comment about "white" Americans. The vast majority of whites are not racist. Thousands of whites marched along with Dr KIng and other across the US. Whites fought and died for civil rights from the Civil War on throught the movement of the sixties and beyond.
Unfortunately, it is the extremists that get the attention of the media. The few racist whites amoung us get the headlines whenever they rear their ugly heads.
I'm sure you have seen the same phenomenum in Iraq. Sadr is an extreme nutjob with a minority of followers but any grunt from his mouth makes headlines. Same with other extremist in Iraq. Extreme views make headlines and sell papers.
So it is here in the States. A few KKK sickoes can get headlines for weeks while the good people that go about their lives peacefully and in harmony with one another get nothing.
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Good Advice On Where We Go From Here - Karl Rove
And wolverine wants your favorite inspirational/motivational quote.
Wolverine |
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AP reports that the Iraqi cabinet has agreed to the terms of the SOFA.
http://www.breitbart.com/article...icle=1&
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One more thing; another reason it was time for "the other" to be elected is that Americans had become accustomed to seeing people of color not only appointed to high positions of government but also succeeding quite well. Collin Powell, Condelica Rice, Clarence Thomas, and others have been in the highest positions in the land and have performed quite well.
And these were appointed by Republicans.
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BTW, did ya know that Martin Luther King was a Republican??
thewiz | 11.16.08 - 12:26 pm |
you have obviously missed a
great deal of my postings.. 
for example..
& a short cut..
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ps: just wait until they find out the truth about Muslim
Black slavery - Islam slave history of Black Africa..
unfortunately it looks like it won't be during my lifetime..
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bg; my post wasn't directed to you. It was directed at Mohammed and People in the Middle East that were amazed by the large number of white people and Republican voters that elected a black man as Pres.
The world understands US politics almost as bad as we in the US understand Iraqi or even European politics.
In both worlds, the perception is too much a result of controlled media pushing a specific agenda. In Europe and the US it is a liberal agenda while in the ME is the agenda of the status quo, ei. helping dictators remain in total control.
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re: Kafir | 11.14.08 - 8:46 pm |
via Gateway Pundit
Iraqi Cabinet Approves Security Agreement With US
[The Iraqi cabinet voted overwhelmingly Sunday to approve the security agreement that sets the conditions for the Americans' continued presence in Iraq from Jan. 1 until the end of 2011.
All but one of the 28 cabinet ministers who attended the two-and-a-half-hour session voted for the agreement and sent it to Parliament for consideration, a huge relief to the United States, which had been in intense negotiations with the Iraqis for nearly a year.
The United Nations Security Council resolution that allows U.S. troops to operate in Iraq expires Dec. 31, and, without an extension of the resolution or a separate agreement with the Iraqis like that approved by the cabinet on Sunday, forces of the U.S.-led coalition would have no legal mandate to operate.
“This is the best available alternative,” the Iraqi government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, said shortly after the vote. “We have always said this is not a perfect solution for the Iraqi side and it is not a perfect solution for the American side. But it is a procedure which was forced by circumstances and necessity.]

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yes i know, did you miss the wink too?? 
(btw: my posts were aimed at the ME etal as well, just not
specific in relation to the elections, not to mention at both
black & white Americans who haven't got an historical clue)
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Abbas Warns Israel to Withdraw
to 1949 Borders Or Face War
[Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas sent a letter to PA Arabs on Saturday saying Israel must retreat to its 1949 borders or face war. “The passage of years... will not force us to abandon or surrender a single inch,” of Judea, Samaria or Jerusalem, Abbas said in the letter, which was published by PA media.]
way to go Obama etal terrorist butt kissers!!
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This is cool: Muhammad Who?
[So a professor in Germany, a Muslim convert nonetheless,
">blares out that Muhammad never existed, and naturally, some people are miffed.
I, for one, am intrigued: there's something to the theory. I don't think it is as valid as saying that Old Testament prophets were not real historical actors, or that Jesus was a composite of several persons, but still, there's plenty about Muhammad's story that doesn't add up.
Of course, there was someone who got this ball called Islam rolling in Mecca some fourteen centuries ago, but it's about time to subject this character to the non-PC intensity of historical inquiry in the Arabic language.
[snip]
I've only read the critiques of Crone/Cook's book Hagarism, but their controversial and much-maligned foray seems to have been in the right direction.
Plus, the whispered Shia assertions that even verses from the Koran have been edited out suggest that at various points the early history of Islam has been radically rewritten.
So let's open the sewer lids, folks, and let's see what roams within. But chances are that this sort of stuff won't get discussed at the MESA conference next week.]
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{There must be a free discussion of Islam"]
Amen..
i'm sick of Islams "one way street" religion..
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while the world spins around Obama's spin..
Burma Democracy Activists & Monks
Sentenced to 65 Yrs. in Prison .. 
[In a devastating week for Myanmar's democracy movement, dozens of its members have been sentenced to lengthy prison terms, as the military-ruled government locks away writers and Buddhist monks — as well as musicians, a poet and at least one journalist.
By the weekend, more than 80 had received sentences of up to 65 years — a move that seemed designed to keep them jailed long past upcoming elections, activists and analysts said Sunday.
"They are clearing the decks of anyone who is likely to challenge their authority ahead of the election" in 2010, Larry Jagan, a Bangkok-based newspaper columnist and Myanmar analyst, said of the generals who rule the country.
Many of those sentenced were arrested following mass pro-democracy protests that were crushed by the ruling junta in September 2007. According to U.N. estimates, at least 31 people were killed and thousands were detained. Many fled the country or went underground.
Others sentenced this week were arrested in 2007 for protesting a massive fuel-price hike — demonstrations that preceded the protests in September. The blogger received more than 20 years in prison for Internet activities, and a poet was sentenced to two years for allegedly concealing the text of an anti-government slogan in one of his works. The journalist was arrested while covering a demonstration staged by victims of this year's devastating cyclone.
...Twenty-three of those sentenced were members of the 88 Generation Students group, veterans of a brutally suppressed 1988 democratic uprising, who received prison terms of 65 years each, and a labor activist, Su Su Nway, was sentenced to 12 1/2 years. At least 10 people allied with the pro-democracy National League for Democracy party headed by Nobel Peace Prize laureate Aung San Suu Kyi received jail terms of eight to 24 years.]
seeing as how successful the Obama thug machine has not only managed to pump up the volume on it's propaganda, but silence the truth.. i'd venture to say we could very well be facing something similar in short order via an Obama / Dhimmi "fairness doctrine" (aka: censorship on Freedom of speech, heck it's already in gear.. just needs Dear Leaders signature on some elusive paperwork).. *sigh*
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The news is that, before the election, Barack Obama wrote to federal staffers, making lots of promises about his future plans for the federal government. This was, of course, public campaign advertising in the federal workplace that was issued in the Washington Post’s home town, on the Washington Post’s beat.
And, it did not get reported.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8111602440.html
excerpt:
"I asked him to put it in writing, something I could use with my members, and he didn't flinch," said John Gage, president of the 600,000-member American Federation of Government Employees, who requested that Obama write the letters, which were distributed through the union. "The fact that he's willing to put his name to it is a good sign."
The letters, all but one written Oct. 20, reveal a candidate adeptly tailoring his message to a federal audience and tapping into many workers' dismay at funding cuts and workforce downsizing in the Bush years. Many of Obama's promises would require additional funding, something he acknowledged would be difficult to achieve under the current economic conditions.
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A giddy sense of boosterism
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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Could there be a relationship between the two stories? Could it be that the admitted failure of the Washington Post and other newspapers to report on genuine issues during the election have left room for this creepy cult of personality?
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Mask ban upsets Iraqis hired as US interpreters
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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I’m not sure I like this story at all.
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Iraqi Cabinet backs U.S. Security Deal -- Parliament, Top Council Must Approve
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8111600362.html
Wow, a headline that is factual about Iraq. There is no stronger sign that the Washington Post thinks that Iraq is no longer politically important in the US.
Or maybe they have begun to come to their senses?
Nah.
Although this week's Ombudsman column did mention that they lost 900 more subscribers after the election.
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The charges that Americans are racist in this election came from the same people who have said that Americans torture prisoners and have committed cold-blooded murder, and who now say that American prestige suffered recently under George Bush.
One such person is now being considered for a posting as Secretary of State.
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bg | 11.16.08 - 5:55 pm |
Ask recent high school graduates (last 20 years) if they have ever read the U. S. Constitution. Most that I have asked have not. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many U. S. elected or appointed officials couldn't pass a test about the Constituion. Yet they took an oath to defend it!! How many voters could pass such a test?
An immigrant was required to learn about our history but native born citizens are not. Maybe voters need to pass the same tests as those that were required for citizenship.
How many U. S. citizens know the difference between a democracy and a Constitutional Republic?
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Murdoch to media: you dug yourself a huge hole
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10787_...0098194-
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I would add that their readers have been telling them this for years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8111403057.html
excerpt:
Thousands of conservatives and even some moderates have complained during my more than three-year term that The Post is too liberal; many have stopped subscribing, including more than 900 in the past four weeks.
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I have never complained that The Washington Post is too liberal: I have complained that the Washington Post has printed editorials in the guise of news articles, has printed headlines that mischaracterize the underlying article, has refused to cover the news of the day, and has published very weak, non-factual rebuttals of news stories.
I have criticized Tom Toles, not because his is a liberal, but because he is lazy. He gets his facts wrong. Political cartoons aren't any good if they have no basis in fact.
Insisting on facts from a newspaper is not a conservative virtue.
It isn't just conservatives who are concerned about having a solid, factual basis for the decisions we must make as a country.
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Valerie | 11.17.08 - 7:01 am |
left room?? surely you jest..
the MSM etal freakin' created a ("ONE" "DEAR LEADER"
"MESSIAH") global messianic figure.. all Obama had to
do was open his mouth..
"have teleprompter - will speak"
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Valerie | 11.17.08 - 7:09 am |
excerpt:
[Several interpreters said they worry about what might
happen to them when U.S. troops withdraw from Iraq.
"Now that Obama wins, they are going to leave sooner
or later," said Maximus, who works with a psychological
operations unit. "We've fought for them all this time.
When it's all done, nobody appreciates it."]
that's because the self proclaimed so called "progressives" (read: Soros rich snobby elite in control of media community
organization & education) turned this world upside down "US
EVIL" inside out "US RACIST" bass ackwards "DICTATORS 'R'
ADMIRABLE" and big fat joke "TAXES 'R' PATRIOTIC"!! gah!!
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"Insisting on facts from a newspaper is not a conservative virtue.
It isn't just conservatives who are concerned about having
a solid, factual basis for the decisions we must make as a country."
Valerie | 11.17.08 - 9:48 am |
that's it in a nutshell.. 
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Anonymous | 11.17.08 - 7:36 am |
as usual i'll be honest to a fault..
i didn't know until shortly after 9/11 when i went on all
out crash learning course (one i'm still on.. "everything
in moderation except for education")..
but then again, i was a patriotic
Dem up until that point.. *sigh*
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Chief Editor at Iraqi TV Channel: All the Slogans We Were Raised On Were Lies
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cg...=sd&
ID=SP211808
Those lies, coupled with the targeted murder of whole classes of responsible adults: translators as well as doctors, sheiks, members of parliament, judges, and schoolteachers, were Saddam Hussein’s defense against invasion.
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bg | 11.17.08 - 11:10 am
In all honesty, I though Michelle Malkin's Obamamessiah posts were completely over-the-top until I got better acquainted with what was being sold over the black talk radio and in the black churches.
What's been in the MSM is nothing compared to was released through other outlets. There was a LOT that the MSM simply failed to report.
I am most strongly aware of the failures of the Washington Post, although the San Francisco Chronicle's failure to report Obama's plans to bankrupt the coal-power industry has to be some kind of record-breaker.
Other outlets, like the black talk radio, and black preachers, have gone much, much further. Louis Farrakhan, for example, has been captured in a video going all the way to blasphemy. It is, after all, blasphemy to pretend that a person running for political office is the Messiah.
Can you imagine the reaction if, say, James Dobson had said John McCain was the Messiah? THAT's a story that would have run for the entire campaign.
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Blackfive: How About An Online Blogger Celebration - Victory in Iraq Day Sat. Nov 22
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Valerie | 11.17.08 - 3:04 pm |
believe i've been posting about that & a lot more for
weeks, nay, months now Valerie.. here's a SAMPLE
(scroll through comments, ie: @ 4:44 PM, and ie: @
1:28 PM here)..
and no, i cannot imagine the backlash re: Dobson (and i've
already witnessed the reaction to a couple of preachers who
McCain either never met or hardly knew who endorsed him)
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Wolverine | Homepage | 11.17.08 - 3:15 pm |
YOWZA!! 
passing that on asap, thanks.. 
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Valerie | 11.17.08 - 3:04 pm |
ps: most of the people in ie: Kenya & Indonesia also believe
Obama is the "Crusader for Islam" (been posting about that
for months now as well)..
again, just a sample:
Indonesians Don't See Obama as an Apostate
"Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama" - Mu'ammar Al-Qadhafi
Obama-Odinga-Rezko-Ayers-Auchi-Saddam Hussein
& so much more.. it's truly unforgivable
what the MSM et al have done to US..
NOT TO MENTION WHAT THEY DID TO OUR
DEAR TROOPS VIA DISTORTING IRAQ.. 
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Valerie | 11.17.08 - 3:04 pm |
irony is, Michelle (Robinson) Obama had / has just as may (mostly the same) dubious connections (ie: Bernadine & Bill) as Barack (so many that i'm seriously thinking i may be wrong about Obama being the HUB, perhaps it's Michelle.. at any rate, we'll never know because the MSM is on a Presidential Jihad)..
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Bush is a surrender monkey. The SOFA he's signed off on includes a carved-in-stone exit date for all American forces. It bends to Iraqi demands to have control over what kind of operations American forces can conduct. It allows American soldiers off base and outside missions to be tried for serious offenses in Iraqi courts. Just two questions: why does Bush hate the troops? Why does he hate America?
And all you guys can do is whine about Obama beating your collective Republican asses. What about poor Iraq?
Oh yeah. It was poor Iraq that forced Bush to cave into all these demands.
You guys just don't have a friend left in the world, do you?
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ht Wolverine
"Victory in Iraq Day"
November 22, 2008
excerpt:
[We won. The Iraq War is over.
I declare November 22, 2008 to be "Victory
in Iraq Day." (Hereafter known as "VI Day.")
By every measure, The United States and coalition forces have conclusively defeated all enemies in Iraq, pacified the country, deposed the previous regime, successfully helped to establish a new functioning democratic government, and suppressed any lingering insurgencies. The war has come to an end. And we won.
What more indication do you need? An announcement from the outgoing Bush administration? It's not gonna happen. An announcement from the incoming Obama administration? That's really not gonna happen. A declaration of victory by the media? Please. Don't make me laugh. A concession of surrender by what few remaining insurgents remain in hiding? Forget about it.
The moment has come to acknowledge the obvious. To overtly declare a fact that has already been true for quite some time now. Let me repeat:
WE WON THE WAR IN IRAQ]
God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!
YOWZA!! OOH-RAH!! 
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link please??
didn't think so..
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Great post!
Would you like a Link Exchange with our new blog COMMON CENTS where we blog about the issues of the day??
http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com
Steve |
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Q & A on U.S.-Iraqi security pact
excerpt:
[Q: Why did the Cabinet sign off on the deal now after so many months of negotiations?
A: It was a now-or-never situation. A deal had to be done by the end of the year, when a United Nations mandate that legally authorizes the presence of U.S. troops is set to expire. Meanwhile, Iraqi lawmakers are scheduled to break for recess Nov. 24.
Iraq's negotiators took the talks down to the wire, extracting concessions out of the Bush administration. U.S. threats to cut off all military operations, training and support inside Iraq if no deal was reached also may have helped.
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Q: How will this deal change President-elect Barack Obama's plans?
A: It means Obama's campaign pledge to set a firm timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. combat forces will be the official U.S. policy before he even takes office in January. However, it could limit his ability to negotiate with the Iraqis since many points already will have been signed off on by President Bush.
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Q: If all American troops are gone, what might the U.S. presence in Iraq look like after 2011?
A: If all American troops leave as the deal stipulates, then the U.S. military presence would be just like in any other country: a contingent of Marines on hand to guard the U.S. Embassy.
In theory, a future Iraqi government could renegotiate the deal and ask for troops to stay. However, given the strong language Iraqi officials are using to describe the pact, and public opposition to the U.S. presence there, it could be difficult for them to backtrack unless security deteriorates dramatically.
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Q: How do the terms for withdrawal compare with previous wars the U.S. fought?
A: The U.S. signed similar security pacts with Germany and Japan after World War II, and South Korea after the conflict there. In each case a sizeable contingent of U.S. troops remains. Today, there are 56,200 U.S. servicemembers in Germany, 33,100 in Japan and 26,300 in South Korea.]
btw gloaters who cannot comprehend.. Bush never said he'd never set a time line.. as a matter of fact, he always said when they stand up, we'll stand down.. well, they're standing up, and they have been for quite some time now..
GREAT GOING IRAQ/IS!! 
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via GP
"Media Malpractice... How Obama Got Elected"
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black & white Americans who haven't got an historical clue
bg | 11.16.08 - 5:55 pm |
Continuing bg's thought I am going to post three statements that related.
How Long Do We Have?
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."
"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years"
"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6. from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. from dependence back into bondage"
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Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE,
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE
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One person's reply to the prior comment:
There are producers of wealth and there are converters of wealth and there are consumers of wealth.
Producers of wealth are those who Farm/Ranch (which includes forestry), Miners, and oil producers.
Converters are those who change the form of the raw material. Furniture from wood, and automobiles from steel for example.
Everyone is a consumer of wealth but most are also a converter or a creator of wealth.
Those who receive a government check are neither a producer or a converter.
Some of those who receive a government check provide needed services such as protecting the nation and it's people.
However the consumptive individuals provide a service of little or no value or provide no service at all.
When the burden of the consumer class exceeds the ability of the producers and converters of wealth then the governmental system and the economy collapse.
When those who manage converters of wealth receive not hundreds of times the wages/salaries of those who do the work, but receive thousands or even millions of times that which the workers receive, then that business is about to go out of business.
We have exceeded the ability of those who produce and convert wealth to sustain themselves and those who do nothing but consume.
Th foolish, the greedy, the indolent and the miscreants put into office an individual who has promised the consumer class that they shall have anything their heart desires.
He was able to make those promises because he is a narcissist. Others who were narcissistic and preceded this narcissist were Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Mao Zedong, Bill Clinton and Charles Manson to name a few.
Is there any question as to exactly where we are?
Perhaps we should ask ourselves how on the world did we get this deep in the bog slime.
A people without God are no longer a nation, but are just a gaggle of people "doing their own thing" in proximity to each other.
The miscreants fully understand that but unfortunately most of those who call themselves "Christians" do not.
Welcome to the "New" World "Order" and their god. A few more months at this pace, and we shall fulfill the miscreants dream and we shall receive their machinations.
BUT
In Samuel Adams letter of November 4th, 1775 to James Warren we read:
"No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders."
It is interesting to note that the "Senate" and the "House" need hundreds and even thousands of pages to even make a minor statement. What a dramatic contrast their vacuous verbiage is to that short but all
encompassing statement.
God also said that but he made it even more clear with even less words:
"MY people perish for a lack of knowledge".
As this nation languishes under the foolishness of DC, even those who call themselves "Christians" also allow the miscreants to flourish because they are ignorant of God's Word, and like it to be so.
"IF MY PEOPLE (not just anybody), which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
Key words here are IF and MY PEOPLE.
"Modern" "Christianity" aids and abets in the delusions in almost innumerable ways. ("Let's play Church")
HOWEVER that does not negate the power those who are His have available to them.
In this day and age where Wisdom seems to have all but vanished from the face of the earth, simple prayers asking for the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth to come forth (and thereby expose and destroy the criminal activity of the miscreants) seems to be an inconceivable concept.
Then comes the question: "Has God blinded their eyes that they might not see so that they would reap their reward?"
I am "in over my head" with that one, but I do have to wonder
HOWEVER:
It still comes back to MY PEOPLE doesn't it.
We do not answer for others in that IF we have warned them to cease and desist, but they will not hear of it, their blood is not on our heads but their blood is on their own heads.
IF "My People" fail to do their duty, then the results are inevitable.
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I'd like to apologize guys. We're better than this. We had a mediocre president who couldn't make a speech to save his life. Now we have a terrible president that can make crowds swoon. I hope one day we get things right.
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How Obama Got Elected ... Thanks Alot Generation Duh!?
Wolverine |
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How did Obama manage 77% of the Jewsih vote?
Wolverine |
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re: bg | 11.17.08 - 11:28 pm |
President Bush also stated (ad nauseam):
Bush: If Iraq Says Leave, "We Would Leave."
["We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It's their government's choice,’’ the president said during a Rose Garden news conference. "If they were to say leave, we would leave."]
ps: November 22nd --- Victory In Iraq Day!

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depends on what you mean by jewish, skunk bear...
never forget that one of the founding members of the SS was a jew. In later photos they had enough respect for him to leave his feet in the picture after they painted him out of it.
while they are taught that they are special people they are also taught that ego will save them.
hence the effects of liberalism are magnified.
that's about as far as I can go with why there is this tendency.
otherwise I will slip back into determinism and the myth of national character.
if you ever wonder about to have confidence in our jewish compatriots, listen to edward teller for a while!!
wealth-pride-ruin.herotodus. it gets them every time. how else can you explain a nation as free as ours electing Oprahs pick? and the blame goes all over the rinos and their country club idiocy.
but in the end politics is wardrobe for more westerners and they will only fight for the golden vision of the liberal way where they never have to really do anything but breathe.
when the suckers are all broke and dumb again they will look the other way and take the productives' money just like always. remember the med students in grenada kissing the ground?
the only possible good thing to come out of this election is that it emboldens blacks in our society and services that the incentive really exists to succeed. I just wish it had a jc watts or someone of that caliber.
the election was between senators so that the senate could take control of the wh. the old hacks on the hill run the country. BO is window dressing and a power trip. the socialism is from the politburo now.
"keep your powder dry and our musket clean as a whistle." RRSO
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ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE
Richard B. | 11.18.08 - 8:13 am |
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Richard B. | 11.18.08 - 8:15 am |
thanks for sharing.. 
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"People in the Middle East are amazed by the large number of white people and Republican voters who voted for the 'other.'" Be not amazed. I believe that for at least 20 years the U.S. presidency was possible for a person of any race or ethnicity.
However, the first time I saw Obama give a speech, my immediate reaction was: "This guy can be really dangerous."
Shortly before the election many people put signs in their yard stating support for specific candidates. One yard had a single sign that said only: "Pray for our country." Please do that.
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Wolverine | Homepage | 11.18.08 - 2:17 pm
I know the answer to this one: they are the biggest damn fools on the planet. They think that somebody else is supposed to rescue them....again!
The local synagogue is where they have had all these yard signs-"Darfur -- not on our watch." These are the people that are all SO UPSET with George Bush for invading Iraq and trying to rescue those untrainable brown-skinned people in Iraq, who George Soros says are unfit to rule themselves.
These are people that line up in cars and drop their children off in a building bereft of adults every week. At an ordinary school, the building is full of parents dropping their kids off and picking them up, who escort their children inside. Not the synagogue. They drop their kids off at the door without a second thought. They think the new security arrangements are totally unnecessary, but they will be passive about it. ...
For two years, I stood watch from the time my children arrived to the time all the teachers got in the building, because I did not think it was wise to dump a bunch of schoolchildren in an unprotected building with (possibly) one adult. And, the ONLY reason this situation changed significantly was because his health, and that of his wife, failed.
I've been hearing all kinds of nonsense from people who call themselves Jews, and one thing I know: they still insist that other people are supposed to guard them.
I don't understand it. I don't understand why my family was supposed to bleed on their behalf, and they think we owed it to them. I don't understand why they think my country somehow failed morally for failing to rescue their family sooner. I don't understand why they think that contemporary German and Polish families should be deprived of their houses, now, because some survivor's family has prospered enough to be able to afford a lawsuit in the United States.
And I sure as hell don't know why my country should be expected to Do Something about Darfur when they refused to support my country when it decided to Do Something about Iraq.
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Dear Mohammed,
I intend to read many more of your posts and hope that you write regularly with your opinions.
Although i am not an avid supporter of the Republican party and i do question the interests behind the Bush administration's invasion of Iraq and i do think the situation could have been handled in a much better way without a mounting death toll of almost 100,000 and a refugee crisis of 4 million Iraqis - I still think that yours is the first blog I've come across that has put the the US Presidential elections in perspective as far as the ME is concerned. How can we criticize others when we haven't learned to correct ourselves?
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Long live Iraq from me..
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skunk bear woohoo! love it!
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We hope the new Administration here will understand the need to keep fighting for democracy in the Middle East. I'm not so sure.
Although everything you said was true, that electing our first black President is a symbolic win for minorities, the man that was elected is not the best America can offer. His questionable associations and his ultra-liberal policies would have mattered if it were a white man but the media elected him by not reporting on some of his most outrageous and deplorable aspects of his life.
I worry about our freedoms here at home as well as those abroad. If he would have lost, you would not have seen a smooth transition and the TV would have had shown riots in the streets and it would have all been blamed on racism. I do not feel he will make the right decisions and he is appointing people who do not have every Americans best interest in mind. They want to bring back the Fairness doctrine, which has nothing to do with being fair, it has to do with stifling Conservative/Republican speech. We will get through this somehow despite Obamas leftist, socialist vision for America. I hope he and his "Clinton" appointees do not abandon Iraq and continue to stand and fight otherwise the tyrants of the world will be emboldened. Our prayers are with you and the rest of the world. We will pray Obama makes the right decisions, but I'm afraid we will be in the fight for our lives and those nations who thought they could depend on America standing alongside them may be disappointed.
Remember that we will never stop fighting to continue helping Iraq become the Model for the Middle East despite the new President. I have faith in you..
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Al-Qaeda, once again confirming that the guy with the brains is gone.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
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Calls the United States president elect the next best thing to an apostate and a house nig.
Perhaps those fairly regular and recent reports of death-by-predator in Afghanistan have something to do with this outburst.
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Gitanjali | 11.19.08 - 4:17 am |
Please post your feelings about the liberation of Iraq. The people here will be happy to help you understand what went on and why. We won't berate you. We will debate you honestly.
Hopefully you will leave here more informed.
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Thank you for the offer Kafir,
I would first like to ask where you are from and where you are based. I know many in the Middle East who do not share this sentiment of liberation at the moment.
I mean no one disrespect but I must stipulate that I believe in a culture of non-violence. I believe that the cost of war that Iraqis and Americans have had to pay since 2003 has been grave and that sooner or later the world must find a way to resolve it's problems through less devastating means. What do you think?
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Gitanjali | 11.20.08 - 12:33 am |
I am an American citizen who live in Texas.
I believe what our former President Theodore Roosevelt said: "Talk softly but carry a big stick." I also like Ronald Reagan's admonition to "trust, but verify."
Saddam was given seventeen UN resolutions to change his behavior. The whole world told Saddam to straighten up seventeen times. Still, he did not. They sanctioned him and sanctioned him until the children of Iraq were sick and starving. Still, he did not change. In fact, he enriched himself on the very methods that were supposed to help those children.
I believe in diplomacy. I believe that it is better to talk than to fight. However, I also believe there comes a time when you need to stop talking and start acting.
The only reason non-violence worked for Ghandi was that he was dealing with England, a relatively non-violent country who had just been through a massive war and did not have the will nor the means to put down an insurrection in India.
Saddam, Hezbollah, Iran, Al Qaeda, Putin, these are not non-violent people. Therefore, a strategy of non-violence will not work against them.
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let's hope that Obama's leftist illuminati can make a difference in the lives of your people
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Mohammed;
Going back to your comment, "The victory is for whites and blacks and for Republicans and Democrats; it’s America’s victory. America presented a rare example that other nations aren’t familiar with — a magnificent case of bringing down the walls of partisanship and race for the sake of the country."
I'm afraid this is a rose-coloured misinterpretation. This was perhaps the most partisan election ever, of the most partisan Senator ever, and raised party hostilities to new heights. As for race, almost all blacks voted for Obama because he was black; one survey and interview after another showed unwavering support, even when the opposite party's policies and platforms were attributed to him. Many of his white supporters were equally uniformed (and uninterested) in his actual positions.
What you should take from this election is actually a loud, stark warning about the dangers of red-hot identity politics and demagogic charisma. They can get you a Chavez, a Castro, a Hitler.
Iraq avoided a civil war. I wonder if America is headed for its second.
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Would you like a Link Exchange with our new blog COMMON CENTS where we blog about the issues of the day??
http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com
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Thanks for bring your blog to my attention. It looks VERY interesting; lots of high-protein postings.
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You are far more deserving of liberty than many Americans I know.
Instead of whining or complaining, you started one of the best Iraqi blogs. Now you have done your part to make Iraq better.
We all hope to see Iraq become the free market economic engine of the Middle east.
God bless you, Mohammed.
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Brian H | 11.20.08 - 10:45 am |
re: election:
sadly, spot on..
re: second CW:
already have that bet in..
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Dear M,
I enjoyed reading your article and am sorry I havent had a chance to join the discussion earlier. While I agree that liberating Iraq from the tyranny of S.Hussein could have been veiwed as a better option at the time, the manner in which it was done, and all the subsequent actions of the Bush administration have left me with little respect for his actions.
Yes Husseian, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, these are all bad people and sometime diplomacy dosent always work, but outright lies that leaves a country ravaged by war, with a precarious goverment, and millions of people homeless is not the alternative.
I honestly cannot beleive that if you ask the common man living in utmost fear in Iraq of a stray missile destroying his fragile existence; or an Iraqi refugee living a less than humane existence in some camp in suburban Cairo, that they will share your veiws on the awesomeness of Bush and his policies.
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We may call George Bush many things, but "Neville Chamberlain" is not one of them.
Where were all the hand-wringers for "the common man living in utmost fear in Iraq" in the days when Saddam's secret police cut people's tongues out, on the sidewalks; when people accused of any sort of opposition had their heads crushed under tank treads; when Saddam's son's roamed the land, raping and murdering at their faintest whim??
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ambika | 11.21.08 - 4:06 am |
horrific yes..
but what of Saddam's atrocities policies?? what of Uday's
& Qusay's?? what of their guaranteed future atrocities??
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Congratulations to President Obama and a big thank you for President Bush. W knows this President stuff is serious business and knows that the education of Barack Obama is already underway. This is a proxy for the education of much of our citizenry that many of the decisions taken by Bush/Cheney over the years, far from being a hellish example of tyranny were merely common sense given the realities of the day. Bush can hit the showers with much confidence that the policies that have done so much good for Iraq and the Muslim world will more or less continue. Thank you, George. Thank you, Barry.
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Mohammed, I am so glad to read this. I was very disappointed with Obama's win and it's not because of his race, either. You have reminded me that America is much more than just one person. Hopefully he won't do too much damage with his loser policies in the 4 years that he will be there. I wasn't overly happy with McCain as the Republican candidate, but I voted for him with all the energy that I could muster. I always think of those purple fingers in Iraq when I vote. You guys are great.
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We will sure miss the liberator of Iraq, and of Egypt as well, who gave the chance to thousands of Egyptian youth to be civil rights and political activists by the liberation of Iraq, that marked Egypt’s history, theirs is a very different Egypt that the one I already know after president George Bush’s policies made politicians out of regular people that were previously dreaming for liberty silently, now we have the chance to fight, it will be very long before our struggle for freedom is over, but at least he opened our prison cells and got us out to fight.
I raise my hat to the great man President George W. Bush who will be and already is a hero for millions no matter how much the media strives to deny it…
All my love to all three nations : )
God Bless America, Iraq, and Egypt
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Quite true post. But it seems that the result of the elections will not have a direct impact on the future of Iraq.
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ambika, you agree that it was necessary, dissagree with the method, but then agree with the result, I'm confused.
Please offer your other options. Liberating Millions of people used to cost Millions more.
I would like to hear your alternatives...
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