A fascinating find! Thanks.
I always knew there was much mud-flinging and rancorous dispute between Muncacz and Satmar, but I'm still surprised to find the Minchas Elazar's works included in a list of those "אשר מטרתם לחבל כרם ישראל"
But wait -- the letter writer is from Warsaw? Who is he (they)? The signature seems cryptic.
When was "One People, Two Worlds" put in Cherem? By who?
See the pamphlet "Lichvoda Shel Torah" by Rabbi Moshe Elcharar. This same Rabbi Pollack in "Beit Va'ad LeChachamim" Kislev Tav Reish Pe Chet falsely claimed that Rabbi Kook said about the Hebrew University in Jerusalem "Ki Mitzion Tetzei Torah". This "motzi shem ra" was later repeated by the Yated Ne'eman newspaper 13 Sivan, Tav Shin Mem Vav.
Does anyone have anyomore information about what satmar have against the minchos elozor? Also, did you see Rav Pinchos Hirshprung's name? Interesting that he was asociated with them.
It's not that Rav Pinchas Hirschprung. He would have been in his teens when this publication was published (having been born in 1912).
The publication is dated 1927, before R. Yoelish was appointed Rov of Satmer so I'm not sure if it was related to his fued with Munkatch. The Minchas Elazer made many enemies during his lifetime especially among Polish chassidim so one can't be sure where this writer is coming from. On the other hand from the tone of the letter would be fitting for a Hungarian follower of R. Yoelish.
So the Munkatcher and Maran R"AYHK are in the same category as well as Rav Glasner
this is not really a kefira list so much as a hate list
it says alot more about satmar than it does about the Rabanim they criticize
Rabbi Hirschprung was from Dukla and he was a wunderkind. So it's not unreasonable that's it's him. I think the Hirschprungs were from Krakow and R. Pinchos' father was a son-in-law in Dukla. So it can be safely assumed that this is the R. Hirschprung of Montreal.
Has anyone looked up the referenced teshuva in the Minchas Eleazar?
Actually, before R. Yoel, especially in America, Munkatch was ideologically to the right of Satmar, that was a small and not influential group at the time.
At the age of eighteen Rabbi Hershprung was already known throughout Poland as a prodigy, a contributor to every serious Rabbinical journal and the apple of the Lubliner Rav's eye.
The list is a (fascinatng) joke, but I must confess to some unworthy schadenfreude on seeing the works of the Minhas Elazar banned together with those of such (in his view) "koyfrim" as Rav Kook, Rav Glasner, Mendelssohn, Wessley, Aaron Choriner, etc.
Those that call others heretics eventually (or originally!) are called heretics themselves.
Hm. I have a number of those books, from "the wicked Moshe Dessau", from Wessely, from R' Kook. Even today, on the rare occasions that some of them are reprinted, they are almost impossible to find (aside from the works of R' Kook, which are kept in print)
I've always liked the title of Dor Revi'i. The author was the great-grandson of the Chasam Sofer, thus the Fourth Generation from the great man. Further, as R' Glasner was one of the few Mizrachi rabbonim in Hungary, and eventually made aliyah to Palestine, he was the "Dor Revi'i yashuvu heina" as at the Brit bein Habetarim.
Ah, but do you have a Minchas Eluzur? (Conversely, do you have anything by Aharon Choriner?)
Speaking of the author of Dor Revi'i, his great-grandson is a sometimes contributor to the Seforim Blog: link.
Just happenned to find my way to this page thanks to the unbiquitous Menachem Butler. I think that I saw an article by Alan Nadler about R. Joelish or about the Minchas Elozor in which he expounded at length on how much R. Joelish owed ideologically to the Minchas Elozor. But apparently they were not at all fond of each other. Go figure. When i was in London recently for a family simcha, I had the pleasure of visiting for a bit with Rabbi Pini Dunner (about a week before the tragic death of his brother a"h)who showed me a copy of a letter (dated about 1923 if I recall) written by the shamas of the Munkatcher in which, during the course of some rant about Tzionim or Mizrahistim or some other low lifes of that sort, he made a particular point of citing as an example "ha-kofer Glasner." High praise indeed.
No Minchas Eluzor, but I do use the Darchei Teshuvah at times (there's a copy online at hebrewbooks.org); it's one of R' Yosef Wikler's favorite commentaries on Yoreh Deah.
And the Be'er Lachai Ro'i (to take another name out of Lech Lecha), by one of the Munkatcher rebbes, is a good commentary on Tikkunei Zohar.
So, I'm partial to Lech Lecha names - it was my bar-mitzva parsha.
I've also got a Vayoel Moshe, but never got that far in it.
Also: Brooklyn, NJ? I suppose that's the Eiropish J, as in New Jork.
Dr. Nadler has written about both Reb Yoilish and about the Minchas Eliezer.
satmar are the lowest of the low scum of the earth. No one cares what they think.
Nadler's articles are available at his website. The first part of the Satmar one was good but his article on the Minchat Eluzer was disgusting.
This has been linked on Areivim.
Here is my response there:
From: "SBA"
From: Saul.Z.Newman@kp.org
http://onthemainline.blogspot.com/
see may 9 note about what works were
banned in satmar in the 20's
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As someone writes there in the comments, this has nothing to do with the SR
zt'l. He wasn't yet Rav in Satmar.
The whole thing is obviously a hoax perpetuated by an anonymous someone
wanting to besmirch the Minchas Elazar by lumping him in the same list as
Reform and Mizrachi rabbis.
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I asked our local bibliophile/historian Rav Shimon Opman about this.
As usual he had the answer on the tip of his tongue.
The publisher of that journal R’ Pollak was a fiery Belzer chosid.
In those days there were huge machlokes going on between Munkatch and Belz.
(This is despite the fact that both rebbe were fervent kanoim.
(The SR is reported to have said that he learned kanous in Belz).
So R’ Pollak decided to ‘fix’ Munkatch - by listing the rebbe’s seforim with that lot.
SBA
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