You are 100% correct. Sometimes you have to protect yourself and I plan to be ready. I won't be a victim because I was not ready.
good for you, Kelly. we need more people like you.
Wow, could you BE more stupid?
Most of these people were killed in a class room where guns are not permitted. It's is extremely unlikely that anyone of these people would have been near their personal firearm to do any good. And getting caught bringing a gun into that classroom, would get you permanently kicked out of that school, and unlikely to get into any other school. Only a stupid neocon would be so stupid as to risk there entire future on bringing a gun in there.
So you sir are an idiot.
Only a stupid neocon would be so stupid as to risk there entire future on bringing a gun in there.
right, and the 32 dead students don't have a future.
thanks for the comment, stupid
You gotta love the anti gunners OP. Mark you make no sense.
Well it proves you are never safe and you better be ready when the time comes.. Of course that makes me an idiot to. .right Marky mark
ok... and carrying around a gun like charles Bronson everywhere you go increases your chance of being slain by law enforcement agents. I guess thats a better fate.
let me make a spelling correction. I wrote gunmen instead of gunm[a]n. It was only one person... I think.
ok... and carrying around a gun like charles Bronson everywhere you go increases your chance of being slain by law enforcement agents. I guess thats a better fate.
possibly. but here in New Mexico, we have the right to openly carry firearms. I'm a licensed owner and licensed to carry.
The simple fact is... if even one of those people had been armed there may possible have been a lot less carnage.
I own a gun, and I entered into a bit of fatwah about this topic. That being said, I think that the "policy" adopted by VA and to my knowledge most other states, banning firearms on college campuses is a good policy, this tragedy notwithstanding.
Assuming if among the 15,000 or so, and I'm guessing students at VTU there were 500 handguns/rifles etc, it is not a stretch to say that they would have had little or no impact in this situation, unless the students had the gun in the area where the shootings occurred, and in the classroom.
Now, think of the outcomes of allowing guns freely on a major college campus. Consider the mental framework of many 17 to 22 year olds, and throw in the social pressures of college, the Friday Night Keggers and the fights which erupt, the raw emotion over romances, and again the emotional maturity many in this group possess and the amounts of alcohol. I have a sneaky suspicion if among the 10 million college age students if there were 250,000 handguns, there would be a good deal more than 32 killed a year.
At least your post didn't blame the college President, who'll rightly have a lot of hell to pay about the administrations bungling of this horror show, as some bloggers have done.
exactly Jenn.
voiceofreason,
I'm not calling for every student to arm themselves. I'm simply trying to get across to all students that if they go about their day expecting to be saved... they won't be.
but thanks for the comment. I understand your point completely
Some years back you may remember in Kileen, TX. a gunman walked into a Luby's restaurant and started firing for no apparent reason. A woman, (licensed to carry) lost both her parents that day as they were eating lunch together. She left her .38 revolver in her car instead of having it in her purse as usual, it's not just likely but fact, that she could've stopped that madman that day had she had her weapon.
To say that a student would not have had time to reach their personal gun is just not true, especially based on reports now coming in.
I'm licensed to carry, I would not want to be without my Mr. Colt...I know he'll be there for me if God forbid I should ever need him. A college campus? That's a tough one and you Anthony being a college student on a rather large campus it must be a tough choice because if you're caught with your S & W you're out, on the other hand you may very well someday be able to stop a shooting, or the magnitude thereof. Remember after Colombine there was a real rash of school shootings!
This is a real horror movie unfolding before our very eyes, makes you wonder how much worse could it get...well, it can and has. But I hope they follow the gun trail here, we know that the numbers were filed off but every gun has a trail and to find the person that this gun came from could prove quite interesting and will really heat up the debate on gun control...we can only hope that it helps to endorse safe, responsible gun ownership. Then maybe mad people like this might think twice...
"I carry my Smith and Wesson MP .40 everywhere I go... and that includes campus."
Damn, you're a freak!
Mark misses the point that the guy who did the shooting had a gun where guns aren't allowed. Laws and prohibition do not protect us from madmen. If there had been one other gun in one of those classrooms, other than those in the hands of Seung Hui, it is unlikely that the toll of dead and wounded would have been so high.
no guns on campus is a good policy. If only it was enforced better that guy wouldn't have had a gun in the first place. no gun, no massacre.
In my opinion, guns are too easy to come by in the USA...it seems like every couple months its something else, some other huge tradegy..I'm beginning to wonder what this world is coming to.
no guns on campus is a good policy. If only it was enforced better that guy wouldn't have had a gun in the first place. no gun, no massacre.
I don't see how the policy could be enforced better. the university would have to check every person on campus every day (and every dorm) just to enforce the basic policy
Exactly.
Weed wasn't allowed at my school when I was a kid. It is an illegal DRUG. Yet kids managed to get it in everyday. A smoke it.
Hazing wasn't allowed in college but it happens. Heck you're supposed to be 21 to drink here in Cali... I shall give you my personal assurance I was a bit younger the first time I sampled the brew.
That reminds me of an old saying my papi once told me: SH*T HAPPENS.
I mean what do you want Libtards????
Shall we round up all the moody loners in the country and jail them, "just in case"?
[I]"I don't see how the policy could be enforced better. the university would have to check every person on campus every day (and every dorm) just to enforce the basic policy."[/I]
Exactly...and even then guns could slip thru, it's not hard.
[I]"If there had been one other gun in one of those classrooms, other than those in the hands of Seung Hui, it is unlikely that the toll of dead and wounded would have been so high."[/I]
You, me, Anthony and so many others are saying the exact same thing...if only one gun had been there! And do you suppose that had this Cho guy or someone like him had known that there was a likelyhood of another gun in the building, would he have gone ahead?
BTW: You should come join the frackas over at my place...it's a bash Pelosi party!
Thank you so much for taking such a huge tragedy and politicizing it.
ahh yes, I politicized it. not the anti-gun nutjobs who waited a whole 30 seconds before pushing their agenda?
Although the shooter was an insane asshole and that a bullet to his own head was the best thing for the world, I can't help wonder how 1 man can do so much damage. His manifesto berated and besmirched the cultural and economic elites of the school but I would have to believe that even the snobs and preppy's would have the fortitude to defend themselves against a lone attacker. It boils down to a numbers game.
I am not trying to blame the victims in any way, but like all the other armchair analysts, I wonder how someone would voluntariy kneel on the floor and continue to stay in that positions while a shooter went down the line executing the victims with a bullet to the back of the head. Better to take one in the face during a bum rush than to get it in the back of the head kneeling next to your friends.
I wonder what happened to the "Let's roll" attitude on that day?
Gun control is absolutely the wrong issue to be tackling here and anyone who proposes differently is just taking the easy way out. It is harder to get guns legally than to acquire one otherwise.
The fact that he was a lunatic, found by a judge to be harmful to himself, is a moot point also. In this country it is not illegal to be crazy, or psychotic, or even an asshole- until you hurt someone else. This is the tried and true litmus test of our police force. A battered woman only gets the help she needs when the guy beats her with a bag of oranges or worse, the woman ends up in a grave. Either way, the police force's hands are tied.
All the warning signs were there for this asshole. He just didn't do anything that could warrant an arrest until it was too late.
Opinionation, are you trying to be a better person than the anti-gun nutjobs who politicized it, or just as much of an asshat? Try a little class. There are no political points to be scored here. A tagedy like this is not a jumping-off point for bashing people who disagree with you. People got killed by some crazy motherfucker, and being against crazy motherfuckers killing people ought to be something that both sides of the political aisle could get behind, don'tcha think?
tagedy=tragedy. Damn fast typing.
All the warning signs were there for this asshole. He just didn't do anything that could warrant an arrest until it was too late.
yep. This isn't the Minority Report where we can see into the future. that's why it bugs to hear some on the news talk about how the school should've done this and should've done that.
Jason,
People got killed by some crazy motherfucker, and being against crazy motherfuckers killing people ought to be something that both sides of the political aisle could get behind, don'tcha think?
I agree but I'm not seeing how I politicized it
You couldn't seem to wait a single day before trotting out a whole lot of NRA talking points. Perhaps "politicized" is the wrong word, but I think that people on both sides of the gun control issue need to back the hell off and not use this disgusting event as a way to prove a point.
Just for the record, I am a liberal who supports the right to bear arms but hopes that there could be a more level-headed group than the NRA to defend that right.
Howabout checking people out properly before selling them a gun in the first place?
To drive a car, you need a license. What is wrong with actually having a license system for guns?
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