Mr. Tom
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Also known as the fallacy of plurimum interrogationum--where the answer can only be given in a manner that affirms the question.
ta,
Nope, he hasn't. And she beats the Hell out of him, too. You should see the marks.
Guilty as charged.
Thanks DX, for being succinct, as I note regularly, a skill I have not yet acquired.
Ta,
Well!
For starters, as I said in my own response to the question I posed, my own feelings on the matter ARE implicit in the wording I chose for the question. Why try to feign an objectivity that isn’t there? I can’t speak for other homespunners, but I chose my topic for the symposium because it is something I have strong feelings about. Why chose a topic I’m indifferent about? Why ask a question I’m not driven to answer myself? (Oh, I’m sorry… am I asking leading questions again?)
Yes, MY answer to the question is bound up in the question itself. That doesn’t mean that an intelligent and worthwhile response from a different point of view can’t be crafted by other bloggers.
I’d submit that your rebuttal that my question is “insane” isn’t really an answer at all, but merely a dogmatic way to choke off conversation. I’ve come to expect that from today’s leftists. Why not tell me that I'm a closed-minded, sexist, racist Christian Nazi while you're at it?
Frankly, equating the draft with slavery is a copout, and an indication that you don’t really understand the draft OR slavery.
By the way, I’m pretty sure that at least a FEW of the eight million plus Iraqis who voted in this past election might disagree with your assertion that they don’t want our kind of freedom. Then again, it seems obvious from your tone that you know what’s best for them better than they do themselves.
Congratulations on your anger, indignation, and self-righteousness. I’m sure you enjoy being you quite a lot. I felt that a flame-styled response here was appropriate, since your answer to the symposium question seemed to me to be a personal attack. If you want to continue this discourse in a more civil manner, I’m up for it. However, if you just want to throw stones, count me out.
> Frankly, equating the draft with
> slavery is a copout, and an indication
> that you don’t really understand the
> draft OR slavery.
True, there's a difference. The difference is that injury to a slave results in a significant financial loss to the slaveowner, whereas nobody has to think twice about using a draftee for cannon fodder.
>>Why not tell me that I'm a closed-minded, sexist, racist Christian Nazi while you're at it?
OK, so have you stopped raping your Jesus Goebbels doll yet?
A FALLACY is something that you cannot base a factual argument on.
Film at eleven.
Darrell,
Why ask a question if you don't care what the answer is? By that metric I'm insulted by the question itself. Hence my response.
I'm more than willing to discuss this with civility, and on more than one occassion here I have addressed these points (not about the draft per se, but individualism and the rights thereof), but when a loaded question is passed off in a vacuum (I should not have to read your response to understand your question's context) as a basis for an intellectual discussion there can be only one response... unwavering rejection.
This was not a personal attack on you, but, a blunt dismissal of the mechanism of discourse you chose, understand that difference.
Ta,
Darrell,
Daniel's point about slavery is the truth. But to expand it a little, consider it this way.
If the government has the right to draft you into the military, who owns you? You or the Government?
If the Government is the people then we all own each other.
Now, economics tells you that when there is no private ownership of an item, in this case a human being, then there is no rational basis for placing a value on that item. It's called the Tragedy of the Commons, and the end result is placing zero value on the item publicly owned.
I'm sure you don't want your children to be treated the same way as Public Housing.
A slave has some non-zero value to the slave-owner, otherwise he would forego his claim of ownership, the same way we do when we discard/destroy something we no longer need... old clothes, shoes, cars... etc.
In mathematical terms there is an infinite difference between a conscript and a slave, and frankly, if I had to be owned by someone other than myself I'll take my chances with one person who may value me over the entire country who couldn't give a rat's ass about me.
Ta,
You sure have a lot to say about a question you find insane.
"Let's also not forget that Germany was in no way ever going to be able to invade America"
Which Ward Churchill conspiracy theory essay are you basing this on? England managed to wage war on our soil a hundred years earlier and so did Japan.
That's because the question speaks to a very important point that many conservatives cheerfully gloss over when they opine that "freedom isn't free."
BTW, Matt, Just because I disagree with the accepted rationale for WWII doesn't mean that I agree with Ward Churchill's blaming the victims. Nice intellectual honesty there.
Yeah, and those same English held off the Nazi war machine for a full year. Your point? At the height of the British Empire they couldn't win the War of 1812, though they did manage to burn down the capital building.
ta,
Point completely lost on you.
Matt,
What point would that be? That we haven't been invaded in over 200 years? And somehow an overextended German army was going to be able to not only occupy all of Europe and Russia (not to mention North Africa) but then land a couple of million troops into a country where, as Yamamoto put it, "there would be a rifle behind every tree?" Make what case you want, I don't buy it for a second.
And, in the world of the Internet, if I missed it you didn't explain yourself properly. I don't know you nor can read your mind. So, if you're going to take the time to comment, make yourself plain.
If you're going to troll, then you go into the 'ignore' file.
Ta,
bad credit education loan student bad credit education loan student bad credit education loan student. gambling game online sports gambling game online sports gambling game online sports.
Commenting by HaloScan
