This is 2006! Who would have thunk it.

When I was growing up, I remember going to the doctor's office. Whites went in one door, blacks in another. The receptionist's desk was in an enclosed room that separated the whites room and the blacks room.

Pretty amazing.


Yow, freaky.


It just tears me.


Creepy and sad.


"Could be a violation"? "COULD"?!

WTF?!

For fuck's sake, the very definition of the word "violation" was MADE for acts like this.


Gay Pride History Lesson (for those of you too young to remember)

Barney's Beanery, West Hollywood, CA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar...arney' s_Beanery

"Sometime in the 1940s a sign appeared among the clutter of the wall that said "FAGOTS – STAY OUT". It was so offensive to local homosexuals that Life magazine did an article on opposition to the sign in 1964, which included a photograph of the owner steadfastly holding on to it. The owner died in 1968, and efforts continued to have the sign removed. The Gay Liberation Front organized a picket of the restaurant on February 7, 1970 to push for its removal. It came down quietly for the first time in the 1970s, although it would be put back up and taken down on several occasions before disappearing for good in the 1980s."

What the Wikipedia article fails to mention is that the sign was removed in 1984 as the first official act of West Hollywood's first mayor John Heilman.

Heilman marched into the restaurant and tore the sign off the wall. It supposedly remained in his office as a trophy for many years.


Signs like that are horrid, but they are not to be discarded altogether. They are a part of our unfortunate past and belong as part of a collection somewhere. I remember a story not too long ago in which workers were demolishing a building in the South and came across two old sinks. One said "For Whites Only" and one said "For Coloreds Only." It was considered a major historical find.


The problem isn't these signs, it's that there aren't enough of them. There should be a "Whites Only", "Blacks Only", "Native Americans Only", "Asian/Pacific Islanders Only", and "Hispanic (not White) Only." Then we should also single out the fags, the liberals, and the dissidents (OK, I'm being redundant) and cross-co-ordinate the signs for each group (for example: "Straight White Blue-Eyed Conservatives Only", "Gay Black Brown-Eyed Liberals Only", "Bi-Sexual Bi-racial (black/white) Centrists with myopia and an eyepatch Only", etc.)

Then and only then will we have effectively separated us from each other in such a way that everyone has their own door and waiting area, water fountain, restaurant, and hotel, free from the embarrassing spectacle of mixing with people different from ourselves. Plus, imagine all the jobs created in the door-making and sign-making industries alone!


It'd be great for the building industry as well NDT. Damn, instead of white & black waiting area, we'd have a dozen or so!


And Fritz, I used to live in Hollywood and went to Barney's Beanery a few times. This would have been around 1990. I swear I think they had the "Faggots Stay Out" sign on the wall then. I thought maybe I was mistaken, but I just asked txrad and he said he thought he remembered seeing it also. We thought it was a joke since the restaurant was smack dab in the middle of homotown.


Only if it'll make the damn lines at the grocery store shorter! Gawd, it's just so freakin' irritating getting behind an interracial gay vegetarian couple with their tofu and hummus. And hey, if their interracial, then we can split up the couple and make them stand in line at totally separate stores so we won't even have to look at them or think about them!


Funny, ND29.5!

I would sit under the sign, "Freaky flame-throwing girls."

I just hope I wouldn't sit alone.


"ATTENTION BIKERS: NO COLOR, AGS, CLUB ATTIRE (no) EXCEPTIONS."

Well, so much for those Hells Angels with the Blue Future Farmers Of America Jackets



And WTF is with that statement "never make eye contact with him"-(Edgarina)

Okay, who's got the best spin of what would happen in even inadvertent eye contact with JEH was made for over a split second?


Ugh, too many doppelgangers online today!


konagod,

I lived in WeHo in the late '80s and 1990s and I don't recall the actual sign being put back up after the 1984 removal. I believe the restaurant put up a framed L.A. Times newspaper article about the removal, a photo of the sign, and framed pages from the 1964 Life Magazine article -- this was essentially another way to show the sign and claim it to be a historical display.

In the early 1990s, there was a huge uproar when members of the Queer Nation group were kicked out of the restaurant for holding what the management called an "unscheduled party."

The Sheriff's Dept. had to physically surround the building to prevent the Queer Nationals and several hundred protestors from buring the place to the ground.

It always amazed me that many LGBT people patronized that place. It was a little island of homophobia in the heart of West Hollywood.


We do remember a certain vibe there that we didn't like.


I just hope I wouldn't sit alone.

I'd be there with you Holly, but I don't flame-throw as good as you do! I just hate to see people sit alone.


Well, dan knows I can throw-down with the worst *smile*

I don't carry weapons, but I used to get "intimidating" written on my eval forms from my freshman and sophomore college students *evil grin*

So, count me in on the sitting under the sign ... eh, I kinda feel that anyone that doesn't get emotionally involved with politics to be brain-dead anyway.


Man, I get to be bookended by Callie and Sarah! That would turn me into a purr-grrl.

Sarah, I used to meet with my grad students and some of them would tremble. No lie. If you could see me (Imagine the love child of Sarah, Plain and Tall, and Scout of "To Kill a Mockingbird."), you'd be as startled by their trembling as I was. For most of my life, I've been a raspberry-growing and brownie-baking mommy to the world. I think they were afraid because I'm the undead. I couldn't be killed. Other academics would attack me and I'd seem dead and buried, but the next day, I'd rise out of my grave, brush the worms from my cheeks, shake the beetles from my sleeves, draw my dagger, and bellow, "To battle!"

Now I'm going to go back to dreaming about sharing a sign with the two of you.


lol Holly,

Next time you come down to Chicago I am SO buying you a beer ... just grab my email addy when you're coming down and let me know


That would turn me into a purr-grrl.

ROFLOL...I've never heard that phrase before, but I can imagine the connotations!

That's hilarious! You two are too cool for color TV!


Will do, Sarah. I'll be doing something in your town this coming fall: tv, bookstores, a book festival, etc. We'll connect then. That would be fun. Since thinking and talking use a lot of oxygen, we'll have to ask other patrons in the coffee shop to back away...for their sakes and ours. We don't want anyone fainting from lack of oxygen. I expect that you'll fork lightning with your words, which will make my 'rising from the dead' thingy seem like a cheap parlor trick.

Callie, I think I made up purr-grrl. As you know, playing with words is my job, albeit a pathetic, poverty-inducing job. One of my editors said that she'd recognize my prose anywhere...and I think she could.

BTW, "too cool for color TV" is too cute!


Damn. I would SO love to have taken a picture of that sign!!


Btw Holly -

If you want to see me being a bitch, then check out this thread while it is happening.

http://pandagon.net/2006/05/17/f...ays-propaganda/

A few of us are playing with this anti-choice nut. We realised really early that this person was a complete freak, so I just set about provoking him into proving our point regarding the different ways in which framing could operate, vs deception.

It's just so damn easy with these people ...


Sarah, as I've written on this site, everyone should be a Bitch from time to time. And everyone be an Earth Mother. And a Warrior. And S(He) Who Grieves. Range is good, for it makes one more effective at serving one's purpose, whatever that is. I'll check out the site, but don't tell Pam and Russ. They'll be very, very mad if they know we're at another site.

And everybody else, "Shhhhhh!"


Sarah, I went there to check it out. Jeeeeezus. How can you argue with an inferior species?


lol konagod -

I was just playing with him, purposefully ... this is me REALLY being a bitch


I lived there 1997-2001. Even then, the low legend of Barney's Beanery lingered.

I'm a junk food junkie. But no, not once...never the f*ck ONCE.

For others who know, its location dead center WeHo still rankles. IHOP piss all over them!!!


Important coda: The new owner of Barney's Beanery has explicitly reached out to the gay community. That hateful sh*t is in the past, thank heaven.


Thank heaven indeed, although I now have a plethora of gay friendly eating establishments to pick from in Austin.

How you doin' Pam? Kick back and listen to some Cassandra Wilson -- we got "Easy Rider" playing now. Exquisite shit.


I know Sarah, but, urrrgghhh. Don't you feel the need to swish & spit? or sponge off?


Hey folks. Just logged in. Have to do a little day job work this evening, so there will only be a couple of new posts up tonight...


nah konagod, I'd only feel dirty if I gave credence to morons like that. They're just deluded gits spouting talking-points.

That's the thing he didn't get through all of that, it wasn't his belief in them that was the deception in terms of framing, it was those that had come up with them in the first place. His parroting merely displayed our points.

Now if I meet the sociopaths who created that crap, THEN I shower. Lots.


Since no one else is chatting, I'll continue with my brain fuck.

Back in the early 70s you had all these bands competing for the same title. Best originality, best guitar solo, best astral-travel, whatever, Today the trend is being replacated with blogs.

Believe me, in 10 years, you aren't even going to recognize most of these blogs. The whole art of blogging is going to undergo a transformation.

I can't really put into words everything I'm thinking, but if you'll all indulge me here, I have a suggestion to make it easier.


Listen to Alejandro Escovedo's "The Boxing Mirror" either before or after, or alongside John Prine's "Fair and Square" and I goddamn guarantee you, you will come back down to earth... no matter where you are right now.


and txrad adds: why doesn't Leif Garrett do an "after death" album?

You'd have to be here among us. It's intense. We're about to eat..pasta, then hopefully cake.


and Sarah, what's this shit about gits? Is that not like calling someone a "big girl"?

You know I'm just high as a kite and yanking yo' poor short chain, hon!


oh, and while I'm thinking about it, I've seen a few of you on AmericaBlog lately. I thought we all agreed we weren't going to do that again? (and Sarah, I've seen you someplace else even more decadent)

OK, so I only go because there's someone on there who comments as "smoke" and he totally cracks me up. He's like, so much like me, he's me. "beer, tequila, good weed" he said once, and he also burns stuff in the oven>

txrad is feeding me avocado cubes draped in balsamic vinegar, and the shit is TAs-TEE


...avocado cubes draped in balsamic vinegar, and the shit is TAs-TEE...

You've just inspired my American Idol snack for this evening!


We really like Mindy Smith, but this shit has to stop. He just slapped the shit out of me. And the wind is blowing so strongly thru the window that I'm afraid I'll be passing out on the floor while gathering up store receipts.

"Oh God DAMN, you queers never stop promoting the fact that you spend money. You CANNOT bring it on down. Just try"
\\We are feeling a strange breeze, and he just bit me.

And txrad just wanted to dispel the notion that I beat him up or that he beats me up. This is simply UNTRUE.

You see, we are simply waiting on the Gods to bestow upon us, the ability to both blog and spell check. And it is indeed difficult.

OJ, (oh wait that's a totally different thread man), we're outta here.

Food to be eaten, Listen To the COLBERT REPORT>


and what decadent place precisely would that be konagod?

Dude, you're like seriously skating right now, right? lol


Fritz, it was REALLY REALLY good, wasn't it?

YUM.


I hate it when you type 20 brilliant words and you think you've written a fucking book, and then Haloscan deleted the entire message! GOD I hate that. And if you've alreay read this twice (perhaps, because I really don't know), because Halsocan didn't really fuck up, I just thought it did, then goddamnit I am really too far gone!

Peanuts.


She was right to tell her employees never to make eye contact with Hoover; especially the males. God only knows what Hoover (there's nothing like a Hoover when it comes to dealing with dirt) would have done with a cute little male who dared look the Queen in the eye.


Fritz, it was REALLY REALLY good, wasn't it?

The avacado, YES! American Idol, not so much.


Real Nice, I live about 30 minutes from this place. I have lived in Southern Maryland all my life and have NEVER seen anything like this. I actually live in a different county than where this place is and I have to say I am happy I do. I have never had anyone treat me bad because of how I live and I am an out and proud person.


I am proud to say that I got banned from Ablog without using one cuss word, just by criticizing John's blog management skills, ie, the lack of ability of walking away and letting the thread burn out. And then he finally says something about "can't close thread in current system" and asks for money. Doofus. People skills at minus 10.


There's more to this story and the record should be corrected. See the whole story in today's Washington Post. Some of us gay folk in Deale were alarmed by the blog story but the complete story makes far more sense. Yes there are bigots here, but the bar owner is not one as far as we know.


For those who care about the future of this country, currently more in peril than some might otherwise think - please consider visiting the following Internet website:

www.TheHappyHarbor.com

At this above website, you will be able to see, and even also hear, by way of mp3 musical download, the truth about FAA Head Bobby Sturgell's background - and the primordial mid-Lantic chowder from whence he came.

Please read the song lyrics. They are for real. They are no joke. Please also access the links to the corresponding news stories. Those news stories spawned the lyrics and song, just like the cult of the late J. Edgar Hoover spawned the ill intentions of Bobby Sturgell and the FAA. The Hoover connection, and even the very-real gunplay at the site of the Sturgell family biker-bar in Deale, Maryland, is all documented and on the website for the entire world to see. And for that matter, just how smart is it for a publican family to insult the very nationwide network of bikers upon whom the family's income in part relied? It's all what Bobby Sturgell and the FAA never wanted you to see. They lost. The people won.

If you are concerned about the risk of people who emanate from racist, homophobic breeding grounds that would do further hateful violence to OUR rights and OUR country, retaining control of the United States federal government, then please, visit the www.TheHappyHarbor.com website at least once a day for the sake of maintaining web-statistics and momentum; pass the URL on to your friends; write letters; make calls; and get (further) involved.

www.TheHappyHarbor.com

Bobby Sturgell MUST be removed from office as current FAA Administrator. Your assistance is requested and very, very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Aerononymous


So to the FAA I say, “I’ve got your ‘50 Year Celebration’ – RIGHT HERE!”

And my celebration of your tired and dysfunctional lawless and hypocritical agency, FAA, is to celebrate the now-manifest 50 Ways To FIRE BOBBY STURGELL.

1. Fire Bobby Sturgell for FAA’s threats made to aviation safety inspectors, now FBI-investigated.
2. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying about and seeking to cover-up the cracked Southwest planes.
3. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying about and seeking to cover-up the American airlines wire-bundles.
4. Fire Bobby Sturgell for perpetuating the Tombstone Agency culture, reacting only to a tombstone.
5. Fire Bobby Sturgell for “closing the book” on fuel-tank explosions when they remain a threat.
6. Fire Bobby Sturgell for countless mid-air near-misses and runway incursions.
7. Fire Bobby Sturgell for low-fuel landings and wrong-way departures.
8. Fire Bobby Sturgell for being nothing more than an aeromercantile sycophant and airline-company patsy.
9. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying about and seeking to conceal accidents and incidents when they occur.
10. Fire Bobby Sturgell for his repeated acts of perjury.
11. Fire Bobby Sturgell for his repeated acts of contempt of Congress.
12. Fire Bobby Sturgell for failing to consider people and lives on the ground.
13. Fire Bobby Sturgell for ignoring Inspector General Scovel and Congressman James Oberstar.
14. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying to threatened-to-be-overflown communities.
15. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying to the ATCs, to NATCA, to the American people, and to the press.
16. Fire Bobby Sturgell for making bad hires of unethical and incompetent colleagues.
17. Fire Bobby Sturgell for being inarticulate in a federal position that actually requires the ability to speak.
18. Fire Bobby Sturgell for seeking to maliciously manipulate the media at every turn.
19. Fire Bobby Sturgell for wasting unbelievable amounts of fossil fuel and energy.
20. Fire Bobby Sturgell for overscheduling our airports and over-saturating our skies, causing numbing delays.
21. Fire Bobby Sturgell for forgetting that the AMERICAN PEOPLE are the ‘customers’, not the airlines!
22. Fire Bobby Sturgell for rejecting any Culture of Safety.
23. Fire Bobby Sturgell for pretending to know what he is doing, while not caring.
24. Fire Bobby Sturgell for his arrogance and failure to lead.
25. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying that Redesign would create a 20% savings.
26. Fire Bobby Sturgell for only reacting when forced, and not otherwise.
27. Fire Bobby Sturgell for failing to timely implement NextGen and other critical technologies.
28. Fire Bobby Sturgell for taking orders from the wrong people.
29. Fire Bobby Sturgell for re-introducing defective planes and parts back into the stream of world commerce.
30. Fire Bobby Sturgell for collaborating with a FOIA unit to conceal information and falsify documents.
31. Fire Bobby Sturgell for wasting litigation dollars on matters that should never have been litigated.
32. Fire Bobby Sturgell for concealing flight plans.
33. Fire Bobby Sturgell for always blaming the victim and never taking personal responsibility.
34. Fire Bobby Sturgell for repeatedly screwing-up FAA Reauthorization.
35. Fire Bobby Sturgell for forgetting that he works for the people and not the other way around.
36. Fire Bobby Sturgell for the sought intimidation of bloggers and others exercising the First Amendment.
37. Fire Bobby Sturgell for ignoring Homeland Security concerns.
38. Fire Bobby Sturgell for not preventing dangerous non-Americans from “repairing” American aircraft.
39. Fire Bobby Sturgell for not fixing lax and rushed security and screening procedures at airports.
40. Fire Bobby Sturgell for harming the environment and contributing to our current energy crisis.
41. Fire Bobby Sturgell, to prevent more falling blue ice, aircraft parts, and pilot guns going off in cockpits.
42. Fire Bobby Sturgell for abusing the workforce of air traffic controllers, and not planning ahead for their retirement.
43. Fire Bobby Sturgell for getting investigated by virtually every federal law enforcement and governmental body that could do so.
44. Fire Bobby Sturgell for being the DelMarVa ideological spawn of J. Edgar Hoover, himself emanating from a Maryland biker-bar which recently posted racist, homophobic, and anti-biker epithets on its own outdoor wall.
45. Fire Bobby Sturgell for maintaining the “Partnership Program” with airlines that puts lives at risk.
46. Fire Bobby Sturgell for not preventing dangerous non-Americans from attending FAA-certified flight schools.
47. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying to Senators Arlen Specter, Claire McCaskill, Frank Lautenberg, and Barbara Boxer.
48. Fire Bobby Sturgell for fostering the “Cozy Relationship” with airlines, thereby abdicating his and his agency’s legal duty to regulate.
49. Fire Bobby Sturgell for helping waste over US$53.5 million on a failed NY/NJ/PHL Airspace Redesign, and tons more money on other failed boondoggles.
50. Fire Bobby Sturgell for lying about the fact that he already quit his job and tapped Ruth Leverenz as his default successor.

Hey, FAA and Bobby Sturgell?

HAPPY 50TH!


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