He can't remember where he threw the meth because he was too fucking high at the time...from snorting all that meth.
I BET he was getting a massage!
I can't imagine why any truly straight man would get a massage from a gay escort if there wasn't something sexual involved.
That would be like me hiring a hooker and saying that I just wanted her to do my laundry. Yeah, right!
Yeah, a massage from a guy who advertises the dimensions of his biceps? Riiiight.
Ummmmm...yeah...well...ummmm...
Kinda leaves ya at a loss for words!
Guess the Christian thing to do is 'fess up to the things that can be proven and deny the rest.
j.
And while we're at it, can we now officially end the debate on whether it's OK to out public officials who make our lives hell by day and fuck boys by night?
It sounds like he must have bought the meth and threw it out multiple times.
It was also very nice of Ted to send Mike the money for inventory. That way the meth was available to be thrown out when he needed it.
I really like the fact that Mike Jones is 49... although I wonder if he is really 53 and that's why he failed the polygraph!!!?!... you know what they say about those 'aol inches and years'...
Tom, LOL.
K inK
Well, it's true that I was tempted and took his dick in my mouth because I was curious, but I didn't inhale, so I didn't really have sex with that man.
if i were an evangelical voter, i'd just stay home this november.
I see nothing wrong with outing a**holes like this, esp. since I don't view them as "gay" in the true sense of the word. There's a WORLD of difference between some prick like this and say my friend in Seattle who is marrying his partner next year. One fears and hates his own sexual behavior so much and is so disconnected from others that he can't comprehend intimacy between to people of the same-sex. The other is connected emotionally to another and has no internal conflict with physically expressing it. One is ashamed and wants to make other ashamed. The other is proud, dignified, and a true man. Like I said, these closet cases are just pathetic. I don't have sympathy for their internal turmoil esp. when they want to inflict that same turmoil on us.
There's now video up at the KUSA website, under the headline of the linked story.
Haggard actually does sound like he's using a "I did not inhale" excuse, and Haggard's excuse sounds just as believable intoned as Clinton's denial of inhaling -- which is to say not believable at all.
Yikes.
Direct link to a Windows Media File video.
I swear this is just like "The Birdcage".
"The money's on the dresser, chocolate"
You can't write better scripts than this.
Who spends that much money on meth and then throws it away?
...after contacting him for a massage.
LMFAO! 
Teddy and the Hand Jive? Kinda Clinton-like huh, "I did not have Sexual Intercourse with that woman" and as far as I remember nobody ever said he did, blow job? sure.
Let's just wait and see the detailed post election round up as to the turn out of the fundies after this and the clearly dishonest treatment they [the fundies] have been handed by the GOP. Any Loaves and Fishes jokes after the ocean report? What happens there in the deep is a million times more important but crickets is all I hear and denials. Wait oxygen comes from the ocean a lot right? Just saying...
If Jones tricked with this Pastor for three years, and used meth. There will be evidence beyond emails and voice mails. DNA takes very small samples a hair, skin cells, "Santorum" stained sheets. Haggard paid cash for his encounters, probably dates of payments can be compared to ATM cash withdrawls.
Video cameras are EVERYWHERE, think a shot of Hagard driving to Jones's House can't be dug up? I hope to hell Jones is holding back the absolutely damning evidence, until a couple news cycles, as Haggard continues to deny, admit, deny, admit, then NAIL THE HYPOCRITE to the cross....so to speak.
I think Don Wildmon might have some "issues" too.
There was a story on the internet years ago, which I can no longer find, written by a young man who claimed that his household was regularly visited by, in his words, "Daddy Donny" who would hold bible studies with the then young boy in the boy's bed in a state of undress. The man said that "Daddy Donny" really creeped him out and that he was sweaty and covered with moles and that there was touching, etc... I've tried searching for the item but it is a difficult search, I do remember the parts about him being sweaty and mole-covered and having a bible and being called "Daddy Donny" or "Daddie Donnie". People may want to seach for this account also.
Is I a crystal addict taking it up the back entry from my Hustler massuse? Depends on your definition of "is"
Yeah, the whole throwing the meth away thing sounds suspicious but what do you want to bet that his flock will believe it? It still amazes me that with all of the information available these days that people choose to work so hard to be ignorant.
If TED was only getting a massage from Mike, then why did he refer to himself as ART? What's the big secret?
If you consider this logically, it is quite a leap to go from getting a legit massage to buying meth.
There had to be some degree of intimacy in order for that to happen. Think about it. Was he on the massage table -- a minister -- and the conversation casually turned to meth?
And, why would anyone use a false name to get a legitimate massage?
"I'm going to massage your upper back now, Art. Just let me know if it hurts."
"Oh, it feels great. By the way, do you happen to know where I can buy some meth, Mr. Masseur?"
"Sure do. All legitimate massuers sell meth. How much do you want?"
Do you get what I mean? The relationship had to be illegal from the beginning. Otherwise, drugs would not have entered into it.
Duh!
why doesn't Mike threaten to expose details of Ted's private parts if he doesn't come clean?
Nobody buys a hundred plus dollars of meth and throws it away.
Nobody buys a hundred plus dollars of meth and throws it away.
But, that's not even the most important thing to consider! How does one bring up the topic of meth during a legit massage?
I just had a massage last week. We talked about several topics -- the weather, stress at work, my shoulder injury, etc. Illegal drugs never came up in the conversation. How could it? Someone needs to explain that to me.
A friend of mine told me that an escort he hired recently did meth before they had sex. (I don't approve of sex for hire, BTW.) My friend uses male escorts when he goes on business trips. Apparently, drugs are often involved in the situation.
Use of meth can be compared to drunkenness, which is condemned in the Bible, ironically in some of teh same sin-list passages that the conservatives love to beat us with (involving "malakos" "soft",often interpreted as effeminate possibly intended in Greek to mean ""bottom"").
Nancy in NYC: Yes, the debate is over.
Fritz: Great posts!!
I think this incident is another advance toward revealing fundamentalist religiosity as neurosis (a.k.a. craziness). It will help deprogram some people, and plant seeds for future deprogramming in others.
Jones says he always met Haggard at his home, NO HOTEL clerk gave Haggard Jones's name (as he claims), and Jones ONLY advertised in gay magazines and gay websites. So already Haggard is shown lying AGAIN.Then the question arises why is Haggard reading gay magazines, or visiting gay websites?
Why does a straight man seek out a gay massuer? Why does a straight guy need to go through all that much trouble to just buy meth, which he claims he didn't use? Wanna bet Gayle Haggard knows all, wives usually do, and if he's using meth that would be obvious to her too.
I heard a rumor there is another hustler from a decade earlier who has stuff on Haggard too.
Next will come letigious youths in New Life Ministry, who will have their parents sue for mollestation.
This isn't over by HALF!
PS: I believe people get drawn to fundamentalist religiosity because of deep emotional pain. That doesn't excuse their making other people's lives hell, but I hope people ponder the psychology behind these folks' behavior. Their behavior isn't arbitrary; it isn't without causes. Note that some people with deep emotional pain get heavily into belief systems (especially ones that act out the oppression of others), while others handle their pain through alcohol and other drugs. Mr. Haggard apparently pursued both.
=KC
=KC, that tracks with AA telling alcoholics to transfer their dependence from alcohol to god. seems to be a viable trade for many. one dependence for another.
That's true, KC. I was a fundamentalist for a while (right before coming out). I never did all of the picketing abortion clinics and such, but I do remember reading my Bible alone in my room and feeling surges of rage, for no reason at all, at anything and everything gay. Of course, I was fighting my own demons.
I do believe there is some kind of mental problem with extremely fundamentalist people. Anytime you take all of the responsibility off of your shoulders for your own bad behavior and place what happens, how it happens, and when it happens on a mystical being they've never seen.
I know some call that faith, but dang it sometimes you just have to take responsibility!
Mark, you are right. His wife probably noticed that he wasn't sleeping for a day or so and had all kinds of nervous energy every now and then. If she knew what that meant, I can't begin to guess.
How does one bring up the topic of meth during a legit massage?
Well one of the side effects of meth is it makes one very horny and able to "go at it" for a while. That's why there's a connection between meth and HIV infection rates. Ol' haggardly Haggard probably saw his masseuse take a bump so the haggardness of Haggard would be tolerable enough for him to keep it up. And probably in the process, Jones (hoping to score a long term client) gave him a booty bump in the process where instead of snorting it's inserted into his **s and is then absorbed into the bloodstream. According to friends it lasts a lot longer and the effects are a LOT stronger.
Of course he could have been scoring it for his wife. They (studies) say a lot of suburban power moms are starting to use meth so that they can keep going all day long.
As someone who as actually seen $200 worth of meth, let me set one thing straight: NOBODY who buys $200 worth of meth EVER throws it away.
Well one of the side effects of meth is it makes one very horny and able to "go at it" for a while.
Side effect? I always thought that was the primary effect.
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