I'll just never understand you. Speaking as someone who has a dark skinned acquaintance, I can say truthfully that I have never called him a racist name to his face, that I'm only too willing to chat him up about basketball, and that I admire the shine he gives his wide shoes. But that doesn't mean I want him to move in next door. I mean, I wouldn't move in next door to him, would I? So, as a hard working white man, I can only deplore you trying to get the natives all riled up. The next thing they'll be wanting is to join the Klan.
purvis ames |
05.11.08 - 9:22 am | #
"In the original film version of ROBIN HOOD (starring Errol Flynn), the Sheriff of Nottingham says to Robin, 'You speak treason.' Robin replies, 'Fluently.' We hope to do the same."
Noel Ignatiev, "Abolish the White Race by Any Means Necessary," Race Traitor, (1) 1993. http://racetraitor.org/abolish.html
passionflower |
05.11.08 - 10:28 am | #
True, all true. Just one more reason why I'll never vote for HRC.
Paul |
05.11.08 - 11:56 am | #
How can this criticism of Hillary's racsm be happening?
Why Mia Angelou gave the Clintons all the cover they needed by calling Bill Clinton the first black president?
Isn't the Bush administration turning the state department over to Colin Powell and Condoleaser Rice?
What's next?
Hillary has the endorsemnt of eleite lebenese and homsexyoualls so she can feel free to protect marriage. What's going to happen to that?
What is happening to white American politics?
Gov. Fahr-Wright |
05.11.08 - 5:12 pm | #
Best one thus far, Austin. From your lips to the nation's ears.
One thing that I don't think that you've addressed, though you do mention the privilege of wealth, is what it's like to be white and poor in this country. To the typical yuppie-scum republicunt, you are even "less" a human being than anyone of any other hue. For obviously your failings in the capitalist system reflect poorly upon their lily-white asses, and thereby their systems of enforcing class warfare must be adjusted to make ways of discriminating even FURTHER against you.
Ain't easy being a mostly-caucasian "welfare queen" who lives upon the FICA renderings of her own former income, for we are all assumed to be nursing at the public teat. For all their posturing about economy and fiscal responsibility and beggaring for tax cuts and other loopholes, the ruling classes understand actually very little about how the "welfare" systems work.
But, again, very good work. A pity that Hillary has chosen to play the cracker card, and pisses me off endlessly. I still want to vote for a woman, 'cause look at what 232 years of penile control have rendered us thus far. Oh, sure, there's been progress and limited revolution, but only so much as it does not upset the ruling classes. Hillary's not the woman for whom I wanted to vote, by a long fucking shot, but at least she is (as far as we know), a woman. Damned shame that she's dragging the rest of us into the fucking gutter with her mercenary ass.
My dream ticket? Donna Brazile with Gwen Ifill as her running mate, Barbara Boxer as Secretary of State, Margaret Cho over the Department of Health & SSA, Margaret Atwood as Secretary of Education (she could get dual citizenship, dammit!), and Jim Webb as Secretary of Defense.
It'd be a good start, at the very least.
And Fahr-Wright, it's MAYA Angelou.
Anntichrist S. Coulter |
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05.11.08 - 5:34 pm | #
Mia Maya: they both end in vowels. What's the problem, am I not edumacated or elite enough for you, Mrs. Coulter?
Gov. Fahr-Wright |
05.11.08 - 5:54 pm | #
It's a sign of disrespect. I've had ignorant motherfuckers purposefully mangle my name (three whole syllables, how difficult is that?!?!) all of my life, try to turn it into something that's easier for their lazy asses to pronounce or remember, when it's right there in plain fucking English for anyone who knows how to fucking READ.
So when you can't be bothered to google the spelling of our former Poet Laureate's name, yeah, it's a deliberate form of disrespect. I'd wager that maybe there was some back-handed sexism involved, because, after all, she's "just" some woman whose poetry and prose is known the world over, but I don't know you well enough to read that from your words. At least not yet.
Anntichrist S. Coulter |
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05.11.08 - 9:10 pm | #
"It's a sign of disrespect. I've had ignorant motherfuckers purposefully mangle my name"
You say ignorant motherfuckers like we're bad things.
Gov. Fahr-Wright |
05.11.08 - 9:47 pm | #
Annti - I'm with you on that ticket. I really wanted to vote for Hillary. Really did. But then she started in with the lies, and the lobbyist ties, and all the rest of the crap.
Actually my first choice was Kucinich. We all know how well that went. Everyone is with him on the issues. But he's short, funny-looking, and he believes in UFO's.
So then, I went with...ah well.
Anyway - this race thing is something that really needs discussing and Comrade Cline has done an excellent job. Here's an interesting paper: The Linguistics of Color Blind Racism:
How to Talk Nasty about Blacks without Sounding “Racist”
for all the people who think that we live in a 'color-blind' society or who think that racism is a thing of the past. The author of this paper shows classic examples in recent surveys of two population groups of how people use this 'coded' language to pretend they aren't racist - but if you keep them talking, they expose themselves. I'm sorry to say that many recent Hillary comments fit these examples...
It's too bad - here we have a nomination that should be between two extraordinary people trying to show people how to be their best and leading by example, and as usual it has degenerated into the usual mud-slinging-fest.
There is not a racist bone in HRC's body. Which makes her tactics all the more despicable.
Her current "core" will be voting for McCain in November, so the pander is just cosmetic for the super-delegates. I doubt there is one that will be fooled.
moondancer |
05.11.08 - 10:22 pm | #
Holy shit Austin, you've got to be kiddin'.
This bullshit you pull out of your ass is either spin or made up of whole cloth...some of this horseshit could even be made up by you out of whole cloth but, it really doesn't make a difference boy, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
We've got nearly 90% of blacks voting strictly on race to the most socialist piece of shit with no resume, experience or qualifications.
Yet here you are sniveling like a little asshole liberal that you are about an indirect comment by another incapable socialist.
I don't know where you assholes hatch but, I'm hoping you get your own daily bag limit.
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05.11.08 - 11:57 pm | #
And Fahr, it's MS. Coulter, thank you very fucking much.
"Mrs.," in-fucking-DEED.
And yes, ignorant motherfuckers ARE a bad thing, when they make the election margins close enough for the so-called Supreme Court to sell-out to the highest bidder and fuck us all indefinitely. Tell me that you wouldn't give both your huevos to go back in time eight years and teach the DNC DINOs and Al Gore how to reach out TO the ignorant motherfuckers, aka us po' white folk whom no one in this election wants to claim (although there are differentiations between IGNORANT motherfuckers and just POOR MOTHERFUCKERS, obviously), rather than treating them as invisible and unimportant, the same fucking way that Kerry's precious little yankees did.
MJS accuses me of "stereotyping," when I'm presenting actual, anecdotal evidence. First-hand witness accounts. Yankees, midwesterners, Californians, etc., believe it or not, are just as fallible, just as human, and just as likely to be bigoted/sexist/recidivist as any southerner.
So yes, "ignorant motherfuckers" are a very dangerous quotient indeed, Ms. Fahr.
And Loky, honey, don't be shocked that politics have descended into politics as usual. You're grown, you know how this shit works. It's never going to live up to the sunshine-y, Wizard of Oz-colored, jellybean-sweet promises of any cult, even the cult of Barry. Humans are venal, vicious animals, no matter what shade, hue, or origin, when you get down to what they REALLY want, and how much they want it, and what they're willing to do to get it --- that's when their true ids come to the forefront.
The real question that you must ask yourself is, who can actually pull it off? Who can do more than promise hope and change and other pretty words and actually MAKE THIS SHIT HAPPEN?
As unpleasant a thought as it may be, and as much as I dislike her personally, for me, I think that the mercenary bitch is the one who can make this shit happen. I could be wrong, and she could sell us out faster than McSenile. But I'd rather piss my vote away on someone who's been there long enough to know how the system actually WORKS (as crooked and bullshit as it is) than someone who (with his devoted followers) is naive enough to think that you can make a revolution based purely upon willpower and ego. This isn't 1967. The hippies didn't stop the Viet Nam war. Economics stopped the Viet Nam war.
Economics are going to be what stops the genocide in Iraq (though nobody in the race or in D.C. gives a fuck about the genocides in New Orleans or Sudan) --- when trying to own the entire Middle East is no longer profitable, then the shit will come to a screeching halt. What I'd like to see is Dumbya hanged with that fucking "Mission Accomplished" banner, at the Hague, for his crimes against humanity.
These baby boomers and their privileged offspring who push Barry upon all of us (or you're automatically a bigot, right? Try that shit on somebody who didn't grow up with klan threats for having black friends in the klan capitol of the entire lower 48.) are so far detached from reality that it really and truly worries me that 8 years of republicunt rape has sent them into permanent PTSD, and that they want to believe in invisible sky fairies and a bold, brash, and shining hero who will "rescue" and "save" us all.
How come nobody gets called an automatic "sexist" if they vote for Barry, btw?
I don't need a knight in shining armor to rescue my fat ass. We all know how to save ourselves. Hillary ain't here to save anybody but herself, we all know that. But hopefully, somehow, she will undo some of the damage that the republicunts (and her "husband" in his "bipartisanship" for the sake of corporate commerce) have rendered to our Constitution and humanity and the very survival of our people, so that when a GOOD candidate come along to replace her, they won't be swimming uphill as soon as they walk in the door (Come onnnnnnn, Donna!!!). I don't think of Hillary as a heroine or as a cult leader or as our salvation. I think of her as the person who has the tools and the experience to get this shit done. Whether she will or not, I have no fucking idea. But either way, we're gambling with our entire futures.
What really matters is keeping McSenile and his puppetmaster DICK out of the White House. Above all else. But I'll be damned if Hillary should "be a good sport" and sacrifice her candidacy "for the good of the party," when no one with a penis has EVER been told to QUIT "for the good of the party."
Hell yes, I'd still vote for John Edwards if he were in it, I trust him infinitely farther than I'll ever trust Hillary. But with him gone, it's a choice between a man and a woman. Call me a sexist, but dammit, after 232 years of men, I think that the XX crowd deserve a shot at it, and no, Phyllis Schafly does NOT count as a "woman."
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05.12.08 - 1:00 am | #
P.S. "Winghunter," troll du jour, I wish that I'd read your whiny little bitch-fest before I hit "publish" on the last one...
Grow the fuck up, son. This ain't your audience, and honestly, if you think that Barack Obama is even remotely similar to a "socialist" or even a real "liberal," than MAN, have you NOT been paying attention!
Why don't you go back out to the barn and snuggle up to your favorite goat, or go fire off another box of shells at the side of the barn or a stack of hay bales, or however it is that you work off your stress. I'd recommend a good lay, but I get the feeling that it's far too late for that, fistful of viagra notwithstanding. It was far too late the minute that you moved down into Mama's basement and declared it an "apartment."
How's THAT for generalizations?
Anntichrist S. Coulter |
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05.12.08 - 1:04 am | #
Gore got 90% of the black vote in 2000 and Kerry got 88% in 2004.
The 'Maya Angelou' that said Bill Clinton was the first black President spells her name
T-o-n-i M-o-r-r-i-s-o-n, and she didn't mean it the way it sounds.
Facts on Blacks |
05.12.08 - 1:04 am | #
Obama wrote a book about how America has gotten over racism. I tend to agree with the author here over Obama on that one.
What really grates me is that this Democrat woman v. black charade has distracted almost everyone from the real hard core issues:
corporatism v. people
empire v. the world
the rule of law v. gangsterism
The Democrats (including Obama and Hillary) continue to empower the war criminals currently in office, whereas they should be impeaching and indicting them for a very large list of offenses.
I used the word charade quite intentionally. Very little is "on the table" in this election. Any of the top three would be war criminals in chief would attack Iran, bomb other nations unilaterally ("the supreme international [war] crime"), and continue the slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan that has taken the lives of over 1.2 million innocents.
It figures that a lie-beral like Cline would want everyone to vote for Hillary. That's the meaning of this piece, right? I saw the illustration saying "Vote Clinton" and didn't bother to read more. Too bloody long to be bothered with. Like other people whose names I daren't mention...
Bukko in Australia |
05.12.08 - 7:38 am | #
Comrade Klinebergfarbski:
Why must you keep trotting out that same, tired, "racist" claptrapdoor about Hillary. She's just doin' what needs gettin' done. She's said many times that she will support "whoever" is the DNC's "Golden Child", even if that "Golden Child" is not as good a candidate as she OR the consumptive GOPrick nominee, John "Straightupyourislamocommieass" McCainslewAble.
austin cline's proved himself an idiot. the facts are, demographics are political destiny, and sen. obama's demographics during the primary campaign show limited support beyond the AA community (perfectly understandable), the very young (who tend to not vote in great #'s in the GE) and the "creative class" (whoever they are, the sen'. campaign has never bothered to actually provide a definition.).
he handily won the deep south states, where the AA community averages 1/3 to 1/2 of the democratic vote, but only 1/5 the total population. neither he or clinton will win any of those states in the GE.
he won caucuses (not actual votes) in states that will vote republican in the fall. he failed to win (with the exception of IL), any state that is considered a solid democratic state. those would be states with "working, hard-working Americans, white Americans...." in the vast majority, mostly blue-collar.
the reasons for this failure on his part are irrelevant. the fact is, sen. clinton IS getting their support. whether austin cline likes it or not is also irrelevant.
that he, and the rest of you, with no substantive evidence to support your assertions, constantly accuse the clinton campaign of racism is just one of many reasons that, should sen. obama be the eventual dem. nominee, he will not get the vote of a huge # of clinton supporters.
some people don't care to be called nasty names, just because they don't think someone is actually qualified for the job they're seeking.
unfortuately, sen. obama was pushed into the presidential race to early; his ego apparently overtook his good sense. as a result, should he be the dem. nominee (and i haven't heard the fat lady sing yet.), he will be thrashed in the GE. so badly i fear, that his promising career will be destroyed.
cpinva |
05.12.08 - 9:14 am | #
nominee, he will not get the vote of a huge # of clinton supporters.
Stop it. That's enough bashing of Clinton supporters. Quit portraying them as a bunch of really fucking stupid idiots.
patriotboy |
05.12.08 - 9:49 am | #
Come on CuntofCoulter,
All your foreplay isn't necessary and you're boring me, just step up to the plate or shut your whining mouth.
Either you can't figure out what a sniveling liberal is or your just another piece of shit in denial...my money is on the latter;
The fact is Obama's the worst kind of racist sewer rat ever to peek his head out of a manhole.
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill disciplined, despotic, and useless. Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats." - P.J. O'Rourke
Winghunter |
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05.12.08 - 10:08 am | #
As a reluctant resident of the most dissagreeable state in the south, I have one observation:
Obama appears too black and too intelligent - two traits they cannot singularly abide here in cracker land. But in combination? No freaking way - he's toast. McSame will prevail in GA, AL, TX, and most of Northern FL. The GOP could run Satan and win in Dixie.
Just imagine, if Lincoln had only let these 'tards secede to form Lower Crackerstania, the rest of the country would now be far better off.
One more thing:
ELECTION CAMPAIGN REFORM
Not next decade, not next election - Now!
Dr. Know |
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05.12.08 - 10:24 am | #
Oh, and Wingwhacker,
When you're through pounding off to grainy JPGs of Paris Hilton and Mann Coulter, I've got a video for you to add to your silly little blog: McCain's Spiritual Guide
Newt Gingrich |
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05.12.08 - 10:35 am | #
What makes you think I'm for Juan McCain, jackass??
Liberal scumbags are nothing more than Darwin's Nominees' waiting their turn in being too stupid to live.
The rest of us would genuinely appreciate it if you simply acted out your tiny little thoughts so we could take what's left and plant it.
Winghunter |
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05.12.08 - 11:25 am | #
Winghunter:
You are one badassmofo. I just hope you're not yelling what you're typing as your mommy will come down and wash your mouth out with soap.
Too right, demo!
I am privately proud to include myself in any "us" that includes you or the General, or Annti, or Seattle Tammy and Dad, or Dave vE, etc, etc, etc, but this blowhard, not so much....
mutzali |
05.12.08 - 1:11 pm | #
the ability to cuss: divine
to point the finger, draw the line
to castigate empowers soul
invective is the right of trolls
as for socialism's reign:
police and fire, the roads are paved
the military by the people paid
the fbi, the cia
who pays for robes, with fancy seams?
poor collective for a court supreme
education, across the nation
where truth is subject to predation
let's see: oh, yes, the fda
which is now owned by pharmacies
did i mention some have more clout
did you hear of the bear-stearns bailout?
(is it sinking in, this handy schism?
to rail against our socialism?)
here's something quite beyond compare:
corporations on welfare
and lest we forget the war machines
private contractors eat up the green
socialism, throughout the ages
arrives and moves through all the stages
but when portrayed as the fearsome devil
do we forget the field is not quite level?
the greatest good for the greatest number?
better yet, let reason slumber
and rail against the damn collective
methinks such logic is defective
Run with that kind of drivel in public and you to can own a new white coat with long sleeves.
Winghunter |
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05.12.08 - 3:42 pm | #
One behavior that trolls engage in is to ignore the substance of an argument and instead to engage in personal attack, put-downs, etc. Since "violence begets violence" the impulse is to respond in kind, which only feeds the troll--no one has ever won a "you're a doody-head" contest*.
This being a site that parodies (please don't tell anybody) aspects of our culture that are fear-based and sexually-obsessed it is kind of amusing when a Cthonic creature makes an appearance. Probably made a wrong turn at Albuquerque.
++++
*Ed Farbledurk of Mung, Iowa did in fact win a "You're a Doody Head" contest in the spring of 1951 (Ed was five years old at the time)--the only such victory ever recorded. His winning epithet, yelled from the side of an ice cream wagon, was "Randy is a stinky weenie."
Ah, I didn't realize that troll feeding season had started so soon. I even forgot to get my license.
purvis ames |
05.12.08 - 6:30 pm | #
Aaahhhh, trolls. What would we do without them?
I know, I know. We could have a reasonable discussion for one...
Rules for talking to right-wingnuts:
1) Everything that comes out of their mouth - the exact opposite is true.
2) Don't forget rule #1.
Bukko - you missed it - by looking at the picture and NOT reading the post - you missed the whole point. Sir Cline was NOT saying vote for Hillary. In fact, he was not saying vote for anyone. He was discussing an ACTUAL ISSUE. Wow. I know that's hard for you and the wingnut to comprehend, but there it is.
Oh, as far as the wingnut - I think he believes everything he reads (amazing that he can actually do that!!!) I think he got the surprise of his life coming in here thinking he was home, nowhattamean?
Possibly the General culd serve up some of his "Friday Advice" to sir wingnut here - sounds like he needs some - get his shorts unwound from around his 'neck' and relax a little bit.
lokywoky bitter hussein |
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05.12.08 - 9:46 pm | #
mjs:
You are correct, of course, and I am duly chastened.
Wingcunter:
I'm sorry, asshole, that I said bad things about you being a fucking moron who would eat a shit sandwich with a grin on your face if Rush or BillyO told you it was cream cheese. My bad I won't tell you to fuck yourself, repeatedly, with a pitchfork or pickaxe or phone pole or anything else that starts with the letter "P". Oh, unless of course I see your ugly ass here, again.
Millions of people going to bed hungry tonight while we feed slop to a troll.
As William Blake wrote:
Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born.
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.
I don't expect you to be scared...what would you be scared about?? You get a chance to say what you've got to say.
Oh, and BitterHussein, is that you're scrawny little ass in that quartz mine? You AND the general can go fuck yourselves.
Christ, why don't we just ALL get together and see how much fun we can have??
Winghunter |
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05.13.08 - 12:49 am | #
WingHunter ought to go home and work on his/her blog. S/he has one post, two months old, and it was largely written by Shallow Hal of the pro-Hillary blog, Savage Politics.
WingHunter wants us to think s/he's a winger, but I'm not convinced.
bob the hog |
05.13.08 - 1:12 am | #
Winghunter:
Are those oblique threats that you're making? Please be clear about that; it's important, really. I need to know when someone is as bad as you seem to want to say you are. You still didn't tell me what I can join.
Loky -- I know what Cline was saying. Much as I hate to evidence Frenchness by admitting it, I read his piece. And I understood it. I was just trying to say something obtusely daft and moderately insulting. I thought that was the drill here...
P.S. I feel left out because the troll didn't insult me.
Bukko in Australia |
05.13.08 - 6:07 am | #
Bukko in Australia:
Please let me know if you would like me to insult you, it would be my pleasure.
You really should aim for obtusely insulting and moderately daft--it translates better.
This:
"The fact is Obama's the worst kind of racist sewer rat ever to peek his head out of a manhole."
Jeeez, guys ’n gals. I try to get a little work done on a Monday and who shows up but a gen-u-ine troll.
Youse guys gotta start sendin’ me e-mail alerts when there’s a fresh troll to hunt. Otherwise, I might go soft. (I mean, other than around the middle …)
If I’m not mistaken, this Winghunter fella’s got a full-on Republican chubby for my man Barack. I took a look at the guy’s blog. It’s got “man crush” written all over it. I mean, in a psychopathic, maniacal stalker kinda way.
No doubt about it, Obama is Winghunter’s Jodie Foster.
Dave von Ebers |
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05.13.08 - 1:01 pm | #
Just add it to the list of reasons why we don't want HRC in office! Obama easily going to win, no sweat! http://www.obamarocks08.com
shirley |
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05.13.08 - 1:51 pm | #
"Savage Politics"? ...a Michael Savage fan, too?
'Savage Politics' really is a pro-Hillary blog (in practice, if not intent). It is not related to Michael Savage (not intentionally).
bob the hog |
05.13.08 - 4:00 pm | #
"Facts On Blacks" --- thanks for pointing that out, I got distracted by the fucked-up name that I didn't consider the historical context. Ya get a little rusty sometimes, even as embarrassing as it is...
"CuntofCoulter"??? That's all you got? Seriously?
Man, morons like you, lightweights, make me feel old. Hell, I remember when trolls would at least do SOME fucking research and put some fucking EFFORT OUT before they came onto our turf. Lazy, simple-minded, pitiful and limp. All of the viagra and Olsen Twins (photoshopped) porn in the world can't help you.
Looks like I missed the majority of the corporal-punishment party, and oh, what a shame, but y'know, it's always nice to see the troops rallying together again, like the good old days.
Y'know, aside from that "really fucking stupid idiots" part. I still thought that we were all on the same side --- the side of truth, justice, and the U.S. Constitution. But then again, I've never drunk the Kool-Aid, either.
Anntichrist S. Coulter |
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05.13.08 - 11:05 pm | #
bukko,
My apologies, sir to your inner frenchman. I hope I haven't hurt you too much by outing yif. Pray go ahead and I'll try to remember to take your comments with a touch of daft and a dash of insulting.
Dear Mr. Cline
"In the original film version of ROBIN HOOD (starring Errol Flynn), the Sheriff of Nottingham says to Robin, 'You speak treason.' Robin replies, 'Fluently.' We hope to do the same."
True, all true. Just one more reason why I'll never vote for HRC.
How can this criticism of Hillary's racsm be happening? 
Best one thus far, Austin. From your lips to the nation's ears. 
Annti - I'm with you on that ticket. I really wanted to vote for Hillary. Really did. But then she started in with the lies, and the lobbyist ties, and all the rest of the crap.
There is not a racist bone in HRC's body. Which makes her tactics all the more despicable.
Holy shit Austin, you've got to be kiddin'.
Obama wrote a book about how America has gotten over racism. I tend to agree with the author here over Obama on that one.
It figures that a lie-beral like Cline would want everyone to vote for Hillary. That's the meaning of this piece, right? I saw the illustration saying "Vote Clinton" and didn't bother to read more. Too bloody long to be bothered with. Like other people whose names I daren't mention...
Comrade Klinebergfarbski:
nominee, he will not get the vote of a huge # of clinton supporters.
As a reluctant resident of the most dissagreeable state in the south, I have one observation:
Jeeez, guys ’n gals. I try to get a little work done on a Monday and who shows up but a gen-u-ine troll.
Just add it to the list of reasons why we don't want HRC in office! Obama easily going to win, no sweat! 
Need to vote Chocolate Jesus.
