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God is a crutch for the weak. You are just looking for something to believe in because it gives you comfort and purpose in life. If there is a god, he's one lazy guy. If you were all powerful, would you allow all the hate and violence that occurs to go on? Wake up buddy and start living your life and stop wasting your time believing in fairy tales.
holy cow batman. im not a christian and even i take offense to that post!
Sweet comments. Hope to see you back here again. I'd be interested to hear about what fairytales you believe in, and what type of crutch you use.
I'll chime in on that. I love how "religious" people like yourselves wrap yourselves in God's love so tightly that you forget about the rest of the world - as long as you get yours you're OK. That's some really offensive sh*&% to me. Using God as a safety blanket is sick and offensive, and worst of all selfish as hell. Your post shows just how selfish you can be. God was so concerened about you not being lonely at the community center that he sent your friends a message to come and play with you. HOW F&*&%$ING SWEET! Come on! Jesus! If you're going to make God responsible for every thing good that happens than what about the bad? What about all of those poor souls in India, Thailand, etc that were affected by the Tsunami? What about Darfur? What about all of those people who live daily lives in squalid conditions? Where's the justice in that? Would you answer that it's because they haven't chosen the true GOD? If you would, you are a total Dog f*&%@r. Now, if you wouldn't say something as assinine as that, then what about it? What's your enlightened answer?
Well, I am glad you had a great Friday night. It was clearly in God's great design.
Oh, and I belong to the same blog as Domina - Dimensional shift. So, come on by and make disparaging comments. we'd love it!
You raise some good points, but why the anger? There's something that must have made you this angry and I doubt it has much to do with a fair assessment of the Christian faith. God is real and he can help everyone. I'd love to discuss these issues on the discussion forum, I feel there is something under the surface. I would like to get to know you better.
You're welcome to reply, here or on the forum and continue the dialogue.
I am angry at the way everyone seems to think they have the answers. I don't like when people throw around God and his word at every turn. And, I think obsessing about God misses the point. The core beliefs in Christianity are basically :hurt no one and forgive or love everyone. and speaking God's name is all alot of people do, while doing exactly the opposite of what the basic tenets of the law or request, rather, asks. And you with your post about how God has made your Friday night wonderful is ludicrious and insulting. I am angry because it seems to me that all most "religious" folk are really interested in is saving themselves - following the path. I can forgive this only when I let myself realize we are all just animals. That lets me sleep. And, I don't exclude myself from this. I firmly believe I am a monkey, too. Not the chosen son of God, not the one who believes, but simply one out of billions of monkeys.
I do think I am smarter than some monkeys, but that is a common affliction amongst many in our species.
And one final thing, I know no one asked me to come and post a comment on your blog initially. But, being that I am a highly opinionated monkey, I had to say my peace after reading what you had written. Also, I do not hate you in any way. I just have a "hot button" when it comes to this kind of thing. Not religion in particular, but beliefs people state as fact. Because with so many different religions, and philosophies out there, it is srtikingly obvious that there is no one way to look at things or to go about life. And to state as a fact - like a lot of creationists do with Intelligent design - is a silly thing to do. Anyway, that should be enough for you to chew on.
great posts gravity boy. I am very impressed with Gods work to bring you here. He has made my weekend for sure and I am greatful for that.
I have a few questions
What do you mean by a "dog f*&$%r", "professional assho"(at first i thought you meant asshole, but then you would have just wrote hole. I am very imressed with your thoughts of being a monkey. They must be doing good work at the university, last I checked the chimp could only paint a few red circles on canvas. moving up in the world I see. I am impressed with gods work.
those are some good questions raised there gravity boy. you belong in a grade 12 philosophy class.
Dear Gravity Boy,
Monkeys are not concerned with morality.
If we are all monkeys, then a true and objective morality does not exist.
If a true and objective morality does not exist, then you have NO cause to experience moral outrage towards injustive, poverty, the disadvantaged, etc.
But you do experience moral outrage towards injustive, poverty, the disadvantaged, victims of the Tsunami, etc.
Therefore, you are concerned with morality.
Therefore, you cannot be a monkey.
Next time you would tend to dazzle us with your intelligence and highly orginial philosophic insight, i suggest doing some background research first.
I suggest C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity. He was a brilliant skeptic like yourself, and upon doing some real research happened upon something rather interesting.
I'm sure you would find me just as ridiculous, if i exploded into a passionate rage over how stupid playing the french horn is, if i have never in fact, touched a french horn.
I am happy to see that my monkey comment has recieved so much attention. I don't really know what to say to such empty responses. I was hoping for something a little more than :
"Monkeys are not concerned with morality...Therefore, you cannot be a monkey."
"...you belong in a grade 12 philosophy class."
But, any response is better than none.
I guess it means I hit a nerve.
And, one more thing: God and playing a french horn are hardly comparable. Come up with a better example next time.
Oh, my comment wasn't sarcastic. I was being serious. And there is nothing wrong with grade 12 philosophy classes. Sorry you took that as a dis man.
Veronica is in grade 12 philosophy class 
that's why she mentioned it
Veronica:
Thanks, I guess. It still sounds like a dis. But, thanks.
Stephanie:
"He was a brilliant skeptic like yourself."
So, I am brilliant? Thanks.
Seriously, who said I was a skeptic?
Anyway, here's a breif outline of "me":
I went to mostly Catholic Schools for most of my education. I am a person who thinks with his mind and hopes with his heart(and I got a little bit of anger and nastiness to go along with that - I am a monkey afterall). What that means is I have faith to some degree. I do pray every now and then. But, Rationally, I don't believe there is a "GOD" or a "Heaven" as traditionally presented to us. I don't believe in literalism. I don't believe in Adam and Eve as the true creation story. What I do believe is that Cristianity, as with all religions, is a great tool that teaches us to live well and to treat others with respect and kindness.
I think what I learned in Retail years back sums this up: "Behavior breeds behavior." It sounds stupid, but it's true. You treat someone good, you are bound(most likely) to get a positive response. Thus begins the goodness! Weeee!!!
And, my monkey comment wasn't to be taken too seriously. I mean, obviously I am not a monkey - like the ones found at your local Zoo. This goes with out saying. I am a little hairy, though.
Hey Shawn, I love your website shawn...
Lol, all the people who play ball on friday should take a look at this... It's pretty funny, it might even change their mind so that they could behave better next time.
But the most important part is that we enjoy comming to the church, and also enjoy having bible study... Truly people like you make a big difference in the world. All thanks
Gravity Boy,
i was simply pointing out a small glitch in your argument. you hint that we are mere physical beings (which cannot experience morality) and not spiritual ones (which can). and then you experience morality! oops! this was all in the hopes that you might re-evaluate your argument/belief-system.
rationally, of course.
another problem:
You said:
"Cristianity, as with all religions, is a great tool that teaches us to live well and to treat others with respect and kindness."
Well that's true, but not definitive.
Jesus creates a problem here, doesn't He? He didn't allow for us to simply consider him a nice fellow, who taught us to be nice, and be done with it. That was not one of His options.
Jesus said:
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by Me."
John 14:16
He refered to himself as 'the Son of Man':
"The Son of Man will be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill him; and when He is killed, after three days He will rise."
Mark 9:31 ... which is a direct and intended allusion to a passage in Daniel, where there could be no mistake or misinterpretation as everyone back there new themselves some old testament:
"... and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."
Daniel 7:13-14
oh my!
either
a. He is who He says he is.
b. He lied.
c. He was a raving lunatic.
If you've proven Christinity to be irrational, or to contradict science in some way, i would seriously be interested in hearing it.
Gravity Boy,
You said: I do pray every now and then. But, Rationally, I don't believe there is a "GOD" or a "Heaven" as traditionally presented to us.
Why pray and who are you praying to?
You said:
Behavior breeds behavior." It sounds stupid, but it's true. You treat someone good, you are bound(most likely) to get a positive response. Thus begins the goodness! Weeee!!!
Sounds like "Pay it Forward". Good movie. It's also what Jesus did 2000 years ago when he died for the sins of everyone in this world, including mine and yours. I find it incredible that he gave His life so that we could be forgiven.
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