Gravatar Hmmm. Having read the articles, the next question is: what, precisely, were the 40 condemned propositions drawn from his writings? Why were they condemned in the first place? What makes them "safe" today? Rosmini may be a true saint, but still the move strikes me as prudentially unwise given the doctrinal turmoil of the last 40 years. Shall we stop referring to Leo XIII and the other anti-Modernist popes for fear that other pronouncements will be reversed?


Gravatar Jeff, I may be wrong here, but I think he might've been considered a little too fond of religious liberty & economic liberty (capitalism) for his time...

It is perplexing that Ven. Newman isn't leading the way as far as saints of this kind, given his then-daring development of doctrine.


Gravatar "Jeff, I may be wrong here, but I think he might've been considered a little too fond of religious liberty & economic liberty (capitalism) for his time..."

I suspect the same, TSO. But a false understanding of religious liberty is still condemned by the Church. That hasn't changed. So it would be interesting to know how Rosmini's thought somehow doesn't contradict this anymore.

"It is perplexing that Ven. Newman isn't leading the way as far as saints of this kind, given his then-daring development of doctrine."

Was Newman ever censured for his ideas about development of doctrine? Were any of his writings or propositions formally condemned? Leo XIII made him a Cardinal ...


Gravatar Was Newman ever censured for his ideas about development of doctrine? Were any of his writings or propositions formally condemned?

Nope.

Hmmm. Having read the articles, the next question is: what, precisely, were the 40 condemned propositions drawn from his writings? Why were they condemned in the first place? What makes them "safe" today?

See here:

http://www.vatican.va/ roman_curi...rosmini_en.html

The key sections:

The motives for doctrinal and prudential concern and difficulty that determined the promulgation of the Decree Post obitum with the condemnation of the "40 Propositions" taken from the works of Anthony Rosmini can now be considered superseded. This is so because the meaning of the propositions, as understood and condemned by the Decree, does not belong to the authentic position of Rosmini, but to conclusions that may possibly have been drawn from the reading of his works. The questions of the plausibility of the Rosminian system, of its speculative consistency and of the philosophical and theological theories and hypotheses expressed in it remain entrusted to the theoretical debate.

At the same time the objective validity of the Decree Post obitum referring to the previously condemned propositions, remains for whoever reads them, outside of the Rosminian system, in an idealist, ontologist point of view and with a meaning contrary to Catholic faith and doctrine. . . .

It must also be affirmed that the speculative and intellectual enterprise of Antonio Rosmini, characterized by great courage and daring, which at times bordered on a risky rashness, especially in some of his formulations, where he was trying to offer new possibilities to Catholic doctrine in the face of the challenges of modern thought, was undertaken in a spiritual and apostolic horizon that was honoured even by his staunch enemies, and found expression in the kind of works that led to the founding of the Institute of Charity and the Sisters of Divine Providence.


Gravatar Why would Rosmini pull ahead of Newman?

The Rosminians. Have you ever heard on Newmanians?

Fred




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