Irish clecial interloper- ugh, did you have to remind us?
People today always want to re-read contemporary views into older events, thereby changing the meaning of events to suit themselves.
What the ....! Is there not a Vatican Congregation charged with placing a stop on stupidity? Is this the way to end the crisis of vocations to the Sisterhood?
'Priest Antonio Rungi wants beauty contest - for nuns Times Online' http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
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""They have been together for more than 100 years and the Vatican wants to disturb that peace to cover up the fact that Cardinal Newman loved a man. It's shameful, dishonourable betrayal of Newman by the gay-hating Catholic Church."
The Church Times' poll found that 80 per cent of responders were opposed to the Vatican's decision to move Newman's body."
'Betrayal of Newman',,,'80 per cent',,,, 'cover up ',,, etc? Groan. Perhaps the only public relations solution is to leave the body be, and forget the whole thing?
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Perhaps the only public relations solution is to leave the body be, and forget the whole thing?
I don't know much regarding the procedure of exhuming a body of someone up for beatification, but it seems if we succumbed to the PR considerations, then any sainthood process could be held hostage by engaging in the kind of salacious gossip about the deceased we see here.
Has anyone ever proposed sainthood for Mary Tudor?
I am not surprised by the accusations against Newman... Not because I believe that the accusations or arguments have any merit whatsoever... I am not surprised because of the nature of the folks who are making them.
Although it is something NO ONE wants to say these days, homosexual attraction is a pathological condition that is grounded in issues of gender image problems. For the activists who make such outlandish claims (and where the hell did this come from anyway? Were these graves pilgramage centers for gays before?!?!?)...
Well I rather think these claims are made by men who cannot imagine friendship between two men being anything BUT gay. If two men are friends, in the minds of these sad folks, they MUST be homosexual.
Such error.
Who gives a fig about public relations with the gay lobby or those polled by The Independent? I mean, gee, maybe the Pope should step down since many of those folks suggest he is gay and in denial. Gays see the world through a gay lens, and there is no talking sense with them when they are tossing out rhetoric like that displayed here. As for "They have been together for more than 100 years and the Vatican wants to disturb that peace...", puh-lease.
Homophobes are sometimes closet cases/lol lol lol
Since when has it been an "accusation" to think Newman was homosexually inclined? This reeks of homophobia indeed.
‘I wish, with all my heart, to be buried in Fr Ambrose St John’s grave — and I give this as my last, my imperative will.’
But this is the height of silliness; "On their gravestone is a Latin inscription, "there from the shadow and images into the truth", which many people believe is a posthumous coming out."
There was an interview on NPR recently of a woman who has written a biography of Lincoln. She was asked about the fact that some aver as to how, in addition to being Honest, he was also Gay. She pointed out that 19th century relations between men were very different from late 20th and early 21st century customs, and that men in those days often did and said things that these days would brand them as "gay", including articulating their passionate desire for one another, even though they did not mean anything like what someone today would mean were he to say such a thing. Folks, apparently, merely expressed themselves differently in those days. This is a fact that today's illiterate elite simply have no conception of, and that is how they manage to anachronistically brand every male from the past in which they have a passing interest as "gay".
" Since when has it been an "accusation" to think Newman was homosexually inclined? This reeks of homophobia indeed."
Neverminding that the "fuss" isn't about the idea that he was "homosexually inclined" but rather indicative of attempts to re-image Newman as a rather new man...
Once the word "homophobia" is tossed in we are in the realm of the conversation-stopping emotive. I have been there before and won't bother.
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