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Gravatar That is the debate we should be having. Once we have determined who we are and what our role is in the world then we can decide what to do in Iraq. Not until then.

Isn't that sort of like saying we must become fully-formed adults before we can decide on who to ask out to the Junior High Dance?


Gravatar I don't think this is a debate he really wants to have. Because if you ask Americans, do you want to engage in empire building and sacrifice your sons and daughters to protect the corporate holdings of regional governors who are appointed by the president, then the vast majority of Americans are going to say no.

Which means we get out of Iraq.

This argument is merely a rhetorical stalling tactic. All these questions he asks about our role in the world have already been answered. America isn't an empire and doesn't want to be and isn't willing to knuckle down to the hard reality of empire, which means brutal supression in our colonies as well as at home, mandatory military service as a requisite for citizenship, and the end of representative government.

Once again, we have a neocon trying to present an insane idea not only as a reasonable argument, but one that we as a nation MUST have before we can get even talk about getting out of Iraq. Well, that certainly is convenient for the neocons who want to keep our soldiers in Iraq.


Gravatar What Jeff said.


Gravatar ACK is many things, but neocon is not one of them.


Gravatar If he supports staying in Iraq while America decides whether or not we are the Fifth Reich, that makes him a de facto Neocon in my book.


Gravatar All this casual talk of empire is really scary. It is supreme arrogance to think US military and economic might (both highly overestimated) gives our country the authority to impose it's will on others. Its one thing to encourage democracy and human rights, its a hole different animal to preemptively invade and occupy a sovereign country. It is not a quantum leap to see the arrogance of this might makes right thinking shifted to domestic political ideology. The creeping expansion of authoritarianism and the devaluing of equality further empower the elites.
The neocons seem so comfortable with empire could acceptance of an emperor be far behind?




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