Gravatar I had a nice comment all typed out, then I reloaded your page and it crashed my browser. (Something in it really doesn't get along with Firefox 1.0.6 on Fedora Core 3, a flavour of Linux. Like, in a serious kind of way. I think it's something on the right-hand side of the page.)

The point of that was to say that for moral issues, an entire country can never come to a consensus. This doesn't mean debates shouldn't occur; it just means that stuff like this can't be solved with blanket legislation that puportedly speaks for every single person. Someone's always going to walk away dissatisfied. Then, the only workable solution is to allow people to do their own thing; if you don't approve of it, don't do it.

This is of course a much-abridged version. (Brevity normally isn't a strong suit of mine.)


Gravatar While Brevity is the soul of wit I find I am too long winded as well.

Wonder what that really says?

Anyway, the only problem with the core of your assertion is the direct contradiction inherrant in permitting everyone to have their way by killing someone. Clearly if someone is killed then everyone isn't getting their way.

It's deep, but scary true when you allow yourself to realize the facts.


Gravatar For the crash: pretty much standard java codes in here plus html... could it be the quanitity?

I have given serious consideration to reducing the clutter, but it is in my personality to like clutter.


Gravatar Well, it all goes back to when you consider life to begin. Obviously you're in the "conception" crowd; that's fine by me. Being someone with pro-choice leanings, I disagree. (I say "leanings" because I can't be pregnant, and it's not right for me, a man, to choose what a woman wants to do-or-not-do with her body.)


Gravatar bullshit>

It feels good to say that "women have a right to choose" but that is totally twisted garbage. The truth is the woman chooses to have intercourse and the reprocussions of her choice are to be dealt with. It should not be legal for a woman to KILL a living INCONVENIENCE. That is what current law allows for.

All I am asking is for any living being with brain activity to be afforded rights. IF that being happens to be 16 weeks old inside of its mother then so be it.

As for the "rape" argument, I am talking about the 95% of abortions where there is no rape, incest or threat to the mother. Then again, there are the living conceptions from rape who might not appreciate it if you say they should have been killed...


Gravatar I don't consider a fetus a living thing if it can't live on its own outside its mother. Ergo, if it's not a living person, it's not murder.

You believe life begins at conception, so you believe any termination of pregnancy is murder.

We take lives all the time; Texas does it with alarming frequency. Those are very clearly living persons. So, is the death penalty murder? I'd say it is. "Justified" murder is still murder, no matter what you slice it.

(And as for the death penalty being some sort of deterrent for violent crime... well, there are still tons of murders in Texas and in other corporal-punishment jurisdictions. So, does it work? I'd say no.)

At any rate... these are big moral questions which, regardless of any Supreme Court decision, are going to leave a giant portion of the population dissatisfied.

I personally see it like this:

If you think abortion is OK: Have one.
If you don't think abortion is OK: Don't have one.

I don't think cocaine is cool. So, I don't do it. I wish others wouldn't, but hey, if they want to and they're not hurting anyone but themselves, whatever, jam it into ya. I don't have any rights over any other person's nostrils.

I don't feel comfortable riding a motorcycle. So, I don't do it. It makes me a bit nervous to see others riding, but if they want to and they're not hurting anyone, whatever, saddle-up. I don't have any rights over any other person's choice of transportation (excessive Greenhouse Gas emissions notwithstanding).

See my point here? If you don't approve of them, don't have one. And you'll be looking down from heaven on the rest of us, I'm sure. But that's for a God to decide (if one exists), not you, so let Him/Her/It/Them sort it out. It's kinda His/Her/Its/Their job.




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