Cob Pile
Isn't that a Ginsu?
You ask: "If Red Indians had been amenable to slavery, why would the New World have had to import slaves from Africa?"
I don't know if that is just a rhetorical question but here is my 2 canuck cents worth. From what I understand, the southern plantation owners and the Spanish in South America used red Indians at first but they ran into a shortage(overwork, abuse), hence the African blacks. The Plains Indians and Apache were certainly not amenable to slavery. Hence war and slaughter so you Feedlotters can safely raise your cattle.
Glad to clarify that burning question.
Now back to that awful video. What the hell were they doung to the cow? I thought slaughter houses were efficiently speedy. It was taking 3 guys forever to do what they were doing. Kosher?? WTF? I felt real bad for the animal. (However not bad enough to give up steaks.) But I am against needless pain and suffering, the animals should be dispatched humanely. Jesus, that is worse then clubbing Canuck seals and I could not even see what they were doing. At least one clout and lights out for the seal(usually)
So please clarify.
Were they bleeding it? The animal protested loudly at the start thgen quieted down, as would I as I lose liters of blood.
It is my understanding, CG that there wasn't a 'shortage' of redskins , but an attitude on the part of same whereby they would rather starve than work as slaves for long. Black slaves were brought to the New World before those "southern plantations' were built.
They are cutting the animal's throat. When I saw kosher kills, they had two Rabbi types; one read from the scriptures while the other one did the cutting. No Mexicans were involved.
Are you going to quit eating those great all-beef kosher hot dogs?
I rarely eat hotdogs or sausages due to the high salt and nitrate contents, kosher or otherwise.
Not to nitpick but:
As for the Indian shortage issue, ok, maybe they were too proud to be slaves and starved instead but there is no doubt the Spanish depleted the Indian population through disease, overwork and war slaughters. Blacks had then to be brought over in ever increasing numbers as replacements.
And Indians were used by southern(meaning what became known as Dixieland) farmers, black slaves soon came to outnumber the Indians. I believe the classic cotton plantations were mostly worked by blacks as by then, they were more viable than Indians. (I should go refresh my history before arguing any further)
Keep in mind that the Spaniards were screwing with the Indians since about 1500. They preferred to convert them to Christianity rather than to kill them. The early Spaniards weren't looking to set up plantations, but tried to use Indian labor in the gold and silver mines. After they had stolen the gold the Indians had already mined before the conquista.
dat's for sure, ptg.
However if I were an Indian, I rather be picking cotton in Alabama than working in a mine in Mexico.
Speaking of Indians, our government recently mailed out thousands of checks, averaging $25,000 each to those victims who suffered from our efforts to assimilate and christianize them in residental schools run by the churches, the last of which were closed in the 1970's. Now some spokeman critized the government because dozens of Indians died from the drinking and drug binges they went on when the cheques were cashed. One can only guess how many just overdosed and recovered. One trio, who did not get cheques(too young), blew themselves and a house up sniffing propane a couple of days ago.
But then again, it's all our fault for fucking them up in the first place.
Nothing like white guilt. White people call sniffing gas "committing suicide". No one ever imagined Sylvia Plath was trying to cop a buzz.
Feeder, there were Israeli, and Romainian, immigrants swept up in the raid too. Apparently the wailing wall isn't keeping them out.
The copper mother of exiles cries:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore."
She doesn't say anything about criminals being invited. Deport the lot of them.
I agree Feeder, my point is that our immigration/work visa/border/port entry system is so badley broken we must reform it. We have, for the better part of 25 years, not enforced our immigration laws, our choice. Most have entered illegaly, some have entered with visas and stayed after they expired, we sat on our hands. If we have an honest conversation with ourselves, alot of people have entered this country illegally, with a wink and a nod from us. Illegal immigration was cheaper, in the short run. We wake one day and now there are 12 to 20 million of these illegals (no such word), living and working here (about half of them were shopping in my Walmart last Sunday). What to do? Deport them all? Amnesty? Do we treat the "illegal" that has been here living and working for 20+ years, the same as the guy that crossed last week? Treat the drug dealing M13 banger, and the guy who has worked and paid taxes on someone elses SSN, as the same kind of ciminal? I dont know what the answer is, but this problem needs to be adressed with more than a 30 second soundbite. Solutions aren't always popular.
Deport the lot of 'em. We have enough homegrown scofflaws: no amnesty at all, not for a single one, not for any reason. To them that whine that its unfair, inhumane, harms the kids, etc. my answer is: "You should have thought of the consequences before you decided to immigrate illegally." Any bad result of crime is rightfully the criminal's fault.
Just because the government doesn't enforce all the laws all the time doesn't imply government acquiescence in law-breaking. Round them up, show them the door. Turn a deaf ear to their complaints, and to the laments of them as profit from their presence.
I know, the solution is too tough for today's wussified, doped up, brainwashed Americans. The problem will only get worse.
Its a good thing I'm fluent in Spanish and have never believed that government (or humankind) can be perfected.
Ok, send them all back, have 'em go to the end of the line, or ban those who have broken the law from the line all together. We still need a system that provides enough legal immigration to fill the labor needs of this country. More ports of entry, more employees for INS, more offices to keep track of the people who are here. More expensive up front, but cheaper in the long run than the mess we are in now. If we dont make some changes to our immigration laws we will be like Fred trying to put Dino out the door at night.
I'll agree with your solution, but you have to change "needs" to "wants". Everybody wants cheap labor; nobody needs it.
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