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Roach Shouldn't rape, particularly as a tool of war, and the tendency in certain agricultural societies for second and third born sons to migrate impact this analysis? It seems both would lead to the spreading around of male Y chromosomes even in societies otherwises patrilocal.Email | Homepage | 10.03.07 - 7:02 am | # |
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razib Shouldn't rape, particularly as a tool of war, and the tendency in certain agricultural societies for second and third born sons to migrate impact this analysis?Email | Homepage | 10.03.07 - 8:54 am | # |
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Roach I don't know why or how you can say rape is an uncommon tool of war or that women would not, naturally enough, protect their offspring even if they're raped. Rape is talked of extensively in the Iliad as one of the prizes of war, though in that case the women were taken back to Greece, I believe. As for the kids, the world is not made up of honor-killing Arabs, Southern slaves for instance did not mistreat their mulatto offspring to use an example from recent memory, and warm bodies were likely in shorter supply on the steppes of Eurasia a few thousand years ago, I would imagine, than they are now.Email | Homepage | 10.04.07 - 8:33 am | # |
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razib I don't know why or how you can say rape is an uncommon tool of war or that women would not, naturally enough, protect their offspring even if they're raped. Rape is talked of extensively in the Iliad as one of the prizes of war, though in that case the women were taken back to Greece, I believe. As for the kids, the world is not made up of honor-killing Arabs, Southern slaves for instance did not mistreat their mulatto offspring to use an example from recent memory, and warm bodies were likely in shorter supply on the steppes of Eurasia a few thousand years ago, I would imagine, than they are now.Email | Homepage | 10.04.07 - 10:31 am | # |
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EW Male mobility - I remember a lecture years ago at the university, where the professor talked about some study about the distance between spouse's family homes in 19th century's Czechia. The maximum result was around 5-6 km - the distance males were willing to run there and back in one night when courting the girls from the next village.Email | Homepage | 10.04.07 - 12:17 pm | # |
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Luke Lea Culture matters, too. Early horticultural societies (before conquest, and state formation) are often matrilocal. But once political states appear, societies are uniformly patrilocal, with few if any exceptions. I can document this if you like.Email | Homepage | 10.05.07 - 7:01 pm | # |
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