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Eh, not enough info to tell. It looks like it's a speech he gave. Maybe it's in a section on great speakers? That would explain why there's no equal time for Bush or McCain. I don't k now that that's what's going on, but why do you guys have to always assume the worst?
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This is getting really scary.
When did we turn into a socialist United States?
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We think assume the worst because we know what Obama is and how he tried to take over the schools in Chicago and make them indoctrination centers of far left wing ideology.
This is very scary. I agree with Jim, are we the Socialist States of America now. This whole worship of the Obamassiah is getting disgusting.
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I used to live in Racine and this doesn't surprise me at all. I attended school in the Racine Unified School District from 5th to 12th grade and it was a mecca of liberalism even 20 years ago.
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I thought public school textbooks couldn't contain religious teachings. Including 15 pages on the new Messiah certainly qualifies . . .
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DavidR,
I think that you are right. We need to call up the Book Burning Committees on the PTA now.
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WOW JIJ, I don't believe you just said what you said. Are you for real??? A booklet about Obama titled "Out of Many, One" three weeks before the election? And you think it's an innocent section on great speakers?
You have just blown my mind. I really did think you had more common sense than that.
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The title is even ironic, since I don't know anyone who has been more divisive of late than Obama has been. He has been divisive even with his voting record which, let me remind you, IS THE MOST LEFTIST OF ANY SENATOR, even more so than the most left-leaning ones like Kennedy. Where exactly does that make one of many?
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i agree with jijalwm. it looks like it is the text of obama's 2004 speech, which was a masterful oratory.
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They could have chosen Sarah Palin's RNC acceptance speech. Even better, they could have given seven pages to each and then asked the students for a critical discussion of both. They could have chosen learning and critical thinking rather than indoctrination.
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Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention...I found you via gatewaypundit.blogspot.com.
I have been joking about the "indoctrination" into the cult of Obama for some time now, but I didn't think they would try and implement the new, acceptable ideology into classrooms BEFORE the election. Wow, that takes chutzpah.
Obama is not a "uniter" but a good example I suppose of the most divisive type of politics possible. Obama has successfully implemented class warfare, gender warfare/misogyny, race warfare, culture warfare and religious warfare into the election campaign. Now begins the campaign for the "hearts and minds" of our children.
Obama...dear Leader.
No thanks.
How did this get past the parent review committee???
Unbelievable, and unacceptable.
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JIJARWM, or anyone else, if you would like to see a scan of all of the pages please email me and let me know. I did not publish all of them for space related reasons.
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JIJARWM is nothing but a left-wing troll.
Ignoring them makes them go away.
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Oh and BTW JIJARWM, did you miss the part where the publisher is giving max donations to the Obama campaign?
Are you really that blind?
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1. Given that Obama is the Democratic nominee for president, it's unfortunate that this is in the textbook. That being said, it would be very valuable for students to study the biographies and policy standpoints of each candidate, as someone pointed out above.
2. I suspect that the book was published before Obama was the nominee, thus negating any of the conspiracy aspects of the text's placement in the book. Obama's rise to prominence in 2004 was pretty amazing, and his speech at the convention that year was great. What better way to teach the American Dream than to give the example of a black politician who made it?
3. All this ranting about Obama ushering in Socialism. The biggest socialist act of the last 60 or so years occurred yesterday with the nationalization of banks. This was at the hands of George W. Bush, closet socialist, and his administration. Ralph Nader pointed out a few weeks ago something his father taught him: every time capitalism fails, socialism is brought in to rescue it.
Good day to all!
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You're quoting Ralph Nader. And the last time socialism "rescued" capitalism, it extended the length of the great depression by 10 years or so. So yeah, effective "rescue" there. Socialism is *bad*. Sorry, *BAD*.
And I *don't* want socialism. I'm very unhappy with the "bailout" and strongly believe it's the absolute wrong thing to do. We're going to elect a pile of dogcrap that's going to take *my* earnings, and give it to people that don't deserve it. It makes me very very angy.
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Gman,
I agree that handing out taxpayer money to the bloodsuckers at the top is a bad idea. They're the ones who screwed up and got themselves into this mess. Corporate welfare is the worst kind of welfare.
I'm sure you'd agree that we'd be better off giving much less money to many more people, even if they turn out to be some of Reagan's "welfare queens." At least they would spend their money, thereby stimulating the economy.
We already elected the "pile of dogcrap" who took your earnings and gave it to people who didn't deserve it. His name is George W. Bush.
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Nope. I'm for giving out money to people who *temporarily* need assistance, or those who TRULY can't work. And even then, they don't get the money, the get their housing paid for (temporarily) and rationed food...period.
And if you're on public assitance, and you, or one of your 10 kids breaks the law, off public assitance you go. End of story. Learn to be responsible for yourself. I take care of myself and my family...I don't want to take care of yours too.
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Outrageous. I posted this on my blog COMMON CENTS also:
http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com
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This is what I've been saying for a while. The hidden "tax" for parents will be the cost of private school tuition if Obama wins. Public schools are going to become little Liberal indoctrination centers.
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Funny guy that Rabzich, his Speaker and Majority leader were in agreement. When the Prex goes along with them in a bi-partisan manner he is the only one who gets scorn.
Ah, being a raging lib means never, ever, accepting responsibility for anything.
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The liberals will lie, cheat, steal and indoctrinate in order for "Dear Leader" Obama's plan of the socialization of the U.S. If Obama does win look for dissenting voices to be silenced since the MSM are the mouthpiece for the false messiah in which they worship.
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"We think assume the worst because we know what Obama is and how he tried to take over the schools in Chicago and make them indoctrination centers of far left wing ideology.
"This is very scary. I agree with Jim, are we the Socialist States of America now. This whole worship of the Obamassiah is getting disgusting. - Stix"
Scary? Try terrifying...
http://thepoliticallyincorrectfi...com/pif5/?
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Fred, I agree with you that the two-party system supports a flawed status-quo. Democrats are equally culpable for our problems. They've gone along with almost every Bush initiative, from No Child Left Behind to the Patriot Act, to the Iraq invasion. But at least they've managed to put some provisions in these bailouts that can potentially give something back to the taxpayers. When bailing out the banks and buying the banks are the only options, I choose buying the banks.
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this is similar to the McCarthy reprise a few years ago. 2004? There was an American History text with a brief mention of Lincoln and then many pages on the horror of Joe McCarthy
It was good too, that the KGB/Secret Service met with that person who got the Obama campaign's call. She must get her mind right before she is eliminated
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Worship of The Obama soon will become mandatory in public schools...
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"if you would like to see a scan of all of the pages please email me and let me know"
I'm interested. What's your email address? The one on your blogger profile doesn't work (got a "delivery failed" reply.)
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Public schools are going to become little Liberal indoctrination centers.
They already have Ron, they already have.
Fred |
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On the way pst
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This is just the first step.
Next will be the Bible's latest edition: The Book of Barack
After all, he is The One.
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FYI, fkd1015@yahoo.com
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fred,
email on the way. i'd like to see the scan, too.
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Perhaps all of you in WI will vote for McCain in order to stop the socialism of Obama from going forth. Its up to you to get to the polls to stop this outrage!
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I wonder if we would go back through textbooks and tear out all the pages on Martin Luther King,or Rosa Parks. Point being if you like it or not these are great African American leaders who are a large part of our history. We may not always agree with them but who can be right all of the time. The flaw in my opinion comes from the line; For the greater good, unfortunately there is too much greater and not enough good these days.
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Isn't the USA the only country left with a viable Communist Party? If you are commenting in here, you are a free enterprise... no? Well it looks like good, wholesome punditry and first draft history in here to me!
Obama and those prez candidates who follow will be "toying" with us for many years to come. Can we accept the challenge to maintain democratic freedoms? You bet!
I think so. From what I am reading in this thread, we are the last stand for true American freedom and civil liberties.
Maybe old Alfred McDougal is just not awake to his own surrendering. Surrender? Liberals give away what they have... true of freedoms, and give to those who usurp such altruism. Hey it is what Obama is all about: just another "Hey, Baby," on the make metro-oumo.. no?
So we let him know... right! We don't have to get our hogs out and storm his castle, we just need google and this keyboard... Right?
My lifetime spans from Ike to now... everyone of the Presidents have been meglamaniac socio-paths... after Ike. And, though I was too young to remember much of Ike, many respected people have praised his role as Prez.
So, in conclusion: I say let's Bloggadocious on like curmudgeons, keep it coming now... and put the squeeze on all braggadacious bums and their bombast.
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Ok, for the 142nd time. The Left/libtards have no intention of being fair nor honest. They learned from Stalin, Olinsky, Ayers and Obama. This is clearly wrong for the publisher and specifically the Racine unified school district to use this 15 pages of propaganda, but the left is in love with Obama, and disagreeing with these libtards is akin to talking smack about their mothers. They are deluded and dishonest, you Psuedo-Conservatives need to learn that the left doesn't like you and that you are their enemy.
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That is downright disturbing. This is truly a "cult of personality" which Stalin and Mao would be proud of.
http://clancop.wordpress.com
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Outflipping rageous
I agree with C Lancop, downright disturbing
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It has gotten to the point that no information dispensed to the public is reliable anymore. I heard a feature on Fox in which they compared "fact checking" the candidates between two major news networks. Their fact checking on the exact same issue was completely different. How can you have opposite facts about one narrow issue? This is supposed to be something the public should be able to trust.
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"I'm Jay Folktunes candidate for public schools teacher of the year and I approve of this book!
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"WOW JIJ, I don't believe you just said what you said. Are you for real??? A booklet about Obama titled "Out of Many, One" three weeks before the election? And you think it's an innocent section on great speakers? "
Wow Rose. I can't believe you. That's what Obama titled his speech. Do you suggest that text-book publishers change the names of the works they include to make them more neutral? That's just stupid.
"JIJARWM is nothing but a left-wing troll."
What are you basing this on? Where have I ever said anything that could even remotely be construed as "left-wing"? I hate left-wingers and right-wingers.
"Oh and BTW JIJARWM, did you miss the part where the publisher is giving max donations to the Obama campaign? "
No, and that's definately the troubling part. Or the more troubling part anyway. I just don't think it's that big of a deal in and of itself. I'd have to see the entire textbook to really make a judgment on the issue. You guys may in fact be right. However, at this point, all I have to work with is one page of one selection of a text book and the word of a guy with a (no offense) history of making faulty accusations and expressing faux outrage. If I saw the whole textbook and it was completely full of left wing rhetoric, I'd totally admit that it's a big problem.
Also, the problem with all of this "balance" stuff is that that teaches that there are only two sides. Then we'd just end up with another generation where idiots like you argue with idiots like capper about who is more of a "patriot" and crap like that. Party politics are the problem.
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Please don't swear JIJARWM. (you said capper)
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What I really like about libtards is when they ask moronic rhetorical questions.
For example Allah-is-really-groovy-with-me asked what Rose based her comment on. Rose said that A-is-groovy was just a left wing troll and Allah-is-groovy tried the typical libtard dodge of setting up a rhetorical argument.
Allah-is-groovy, you are a lib troll because you are a lib troll. You know it, I know it we all know it. Your entire presence here is to piss people off with your disdain for Jesus.
You're a libtard.
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Um yeah, I wish people would realize, if your kid is in public school... he's in a socialized school (funded by the government), if your garbage gets picked up by the city sanitation department, it' socialized. If you call the police or fire department, THEY'RE socialized people!!! Stop throwing around ideologies you know very little about.
Obama featured in an educational book? Hmmm, could it be, perhaps, maybe because he is a prime example of how dedication to your education can take you places? Whether he wins or not, he's an educated man who came from nothing and made it. He was probably chosen because he's in the public eye so much, that kids could probably relate to someone who is on TV much more than some historic character in a dusty old book. HELLO PEOPLE get with the program!!! It's a media generation, we have to come up with clever ways to get their attention.
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Gianna, please give us that great big KOOL-AID smile.
Let's imagine John McCain was featured in a 15 page story in a text book. After you changed your defecated grunderwear, you'd need smelling salts to come-to.l
Obama has done NOTHING with his life, except hang with filthy Anti-America pigs. He does run his mouth very nicely however.
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Those who consider Obama 'not a Uniter' really need to think about why they feel that way? Is it because he really divides people? Or is it because he makes them face their true feelings about race? Most of the time it goes back to the 'I love minorities, I just don't want them living next to me' double standard that still runs rampant in this country.
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I wonder if we would go back through textbooks and tear out all the pages on Martin Luther King,or Rosa Parks.
They are spinning in their graves. They fought for freedom; the Barackacide seeks to take away as much of our freedom as possible.
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Man I missed you Mickey. So the "lib" part of your little word isn't meant to have anything to do with "liberal"? Because that term, as well as the term "left-wing" have meanings that are more complicated than what you think they mean (i.e. "duhhh, the libtards are the bad guys, duhhh."). In real life, I can't be a left-wing troll because I am not on the politcal left. The troll part may be fair, since typically when I speak up over here, it's to disagree. But I read somewhere this blog was about real debating.
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Gianna. who is it that brings raceinto any of these comments???? The Left. They arefixatedon identity politics and can not get it thru their thick skulls that wed not like Obama because he is a Socialist and the farthestto the Left out of any Senator. Hell, he can not even unite his own party andhe is going to unite with the Conservatives.
If you think that, I got a bridge to sell you.
I could careless if he was White, Black, Asian, Mexican, French or any other hyphanated American, I do notlike his politics, and I would never vote for him.
He is a Chicago Politician and that should be a warning to anyone
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As a mother of a sixth grader in RUSD, I am absolutely appalled, as are many of the people to whom I have forwarded this. This is NOT what I am spending my taxpayer dollars for. Regardless of who is running for POTUS, can anyone argue that Obama has done more in his life than McCain??
Fred, can you get me a copy of the scanned pages? I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
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Gianna you make a fair point.
You know Way back when Clarence Thomas was being confirmed I had a similar thought.
Here is this impressive man, came from nothing, worked his way through school, about to reach the very pinnacle of his career, and absolutely every liberal group including the NAACP came out against him for the crime of....
Being Conservative..
If the publisher wanted to highlight someone who had really given a lifetime of service there were many many more worthy people than Barack Obama. A narcassist so huge he has written two books about himself already...
Your argument lacks substance but thanks for your comments.
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Clarence Thomas isn't really known for his speaking ability and probably wouldn't fit in a section on great speakers.
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So many products of the liberal school system believe what is told them to be facts. This in a public school textbook is just another example of how public school does not teach truth. Obama did not "come from nothing." At least if you're going to vote for someone know the real story. I'm sick of people not going and investigating things for themselves, but thinking that public school or the media is going to be accurate and truthful. His Grandparents were well off, his step father was well off, he went to private school....do the dang research yourself, although if you went to public school you probably don't know how! They'd rather you just believe as your told.
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Allah-is-groovy, maybe they could have a 15 page section no what a great speaker Hitler was.
You're deluded, and you are a leftist troll-tard.
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Oh, and while you're at it, if you actually do go find out the facts, find out who he is indebted to for his college education. He did not "work his way through school" It might surprise you, it might not, but it doesn't mention it in this "text book" along with many many other facts that it doesn't mention.
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Got it. Thank you, Fred.
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Mickey,
My favorite part about you is that you're scared of the title of a Doobie Brothers hit. Hitler's speeches are included in a lot of text books, but it's harsh stuff, so usually not in 8th grade.
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McDougal/Littell is part a huge textbook company -- one of the top 3. There have been numerous mergers of textbooks companies in the last decade -- It's part of McDougal/Littell/Harcourt/Holt/Houghton/Mifflin. McDougal/Littell has an office in Chicago as well as other cities like Austin and New York. I'm sure the Alfred McDougal in Chicago is coincidental. But, I am not suprised to see a selection about Obama in that textbook. I work in the industry and if parents only knew what was in their children's textbooks, they would be pulling their kids out of government schools and putting them in private schools or homeschooling.
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Oh my God,some of these comments are so incredibly stupid that I'm even wondering why I bother.
BUT LISTEN UP OBAMABOTS!
A booklet about Obama in our public schools a couple of weeks before an election in which HE IS A CANDIDATE is not ethical, especially if booklets are not distributed about ALL the other candidates also. Got that?
Gianna is a prime example of the blind leading the blind. Yes Gianna, I KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM IS. I lived under it and that's why my parents came to America---to get away from it---only to end up back where we started from because of people like Obama and you who follow him.
And then there's more horse pucky from Gianna with this one: " Those who consider Obama 'not a Uniter' really need to think about why they feel that way? Is it because he really divides people? Or is it because he makes them face their true feelings about race?"
Are you saying that THE MOST LEFTIST VOTING RECORDS is a UNITER? Je can't even unite his own party. That's downright funny. Seems to me a UNITER is one who is more in the middle and compromises on things. Where has Obama ever done that? He's accomplished absolutely ZERO, especially in the uniting department. And race has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it.
And you have GOT to be kidding with this one: "maybe because he is a prime example of how dedication to your education can take you places? " Yes, he is an educated man, BUT he is also in the pockets of the teachers union, who are the very people who stand in the way of bettering education for minorities like him. They don't hold teachers accountable and go by seniority, and dear ol' Obama supports them 100%. He also voted against a bill in Illinois which would have put some teeth into suspending troublemakers in school who keep other kids from learning with their disruptive behavior, while at the same time voting FOR sex education in kindergarten. He is educated and he KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON, so why he is 100% in favor of whatever the teachers union wants? He admitted publically that "I owe them". He ows them? Why? Well, think about it girl.
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This is outrageous!! thank you for the warning. AMERICA WAKE UP!!!!
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And then there's this idiotic comment: "Point being if you like it or not these are great African American leaders who are a large part of our history"
Obama is, however, NOT part of our history as yet. So far he is a candidate for the presidency after having accomplished little to nothing, and to bring this booklet into the public school system a couple of weeks before the election is an absolute OUTRAGE!
Please learn the difference between what is legitimate history and what is present tense!!!
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And then there'sJIK with this diverting comment: " Clarence Thomas isn't really known for his speaking ability and probably wouldn't fit in a section on great speakers"
What does that have to do with the price of bananas? For heaven's sake, get your act together and at least be relevant to the argument going on here.
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Hi there!
I work in TV news and am interested in this textbook story. Could you please get in touch! (Then I can give you the details.)
Thanks so much!
Claire
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WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!! PLEASE WAKE UP!!!
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Rose,
It's not a booklet on Obama. It's a text book. The piece in question is a speech on Obama. It's probably in a section about speeches.
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I suggest adding an additional element to the morning routine in our nation's classrooms. Immediately after the "Pledge of Allegiance", we should add an "Oath of Loyalty to the One":
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"O Great One, we pledge our loyalty to you as you lift our nation to new heights. We revere your word, we applud your every action, we embrace your vision. Lead us now and forever more. (Amen.)"
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It seems we are being devoured by the Ozombie. He wants our brains and is starting with our kids. This indoctrination and propaganda from the Sociocrats must be stopped.
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I don't think most of you have to worry about your brains being devoured.
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To the predominantly angry white people at this site: Try to understand that Obama's campaign for president has great historical relevance because he is the first black man in the history of the United States to receive a presidential nomination from his party. It has nothing to do with liberalism or socialism. It is an historical milestone.
Obama came from a middle class background and pulled himself up by his own hard work. Obama's story is a Republican success story and you should be proud of him. McCain was born into privilege and he is married to a very rich woman he committed adultery with while he was still married. McCain's story is the sort of liberal elitist story you hate. Try to get it through your bigoted heads. Try. Please.
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Go ahead & take a read of ANY school textbooks. They are all full of liberal biased crapola.
As a public school science teacher I constantly have to reject textbooks based on the fact that they are inserting propaganda into them about issues like global warming, the rain forests, etc...
When I have no choice but to get books with this crap in them, I supplement my instruction to include both sides of the issue.
I go for the facts. But often, I cannot find them in the educational literature available.
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West Virginia loves it's Democrat politicians; we are number one in the country in many areas...
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To the retard named Gustav. The anger you are seeing here is not about race. I don't give a flying flip if the democratic nominee were purple and from mars. I *do* care that he plans to enact socialism here.
Get it?
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Hmmm... Maybe it is from a section on great teleprompter readers.
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I *do* care that he plans to enact socialism here.
People like you wouldn't know what real socialism was if it jumped out of your ass. Socialism is not a substitute for "leftard policies I don't like such as social security, medicare, anything that helps poor people" etc., etc.
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Careful Gman. Fred doesn't approve of that word. Right Fred?
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Here's a thought. Go out and vote. Take the energy and put it to use. If you live in Racine vote out the school board members and replace them with people you want. If you don't want Sen. Obama's policies then vote against him and make every effort to get out the vote for Sen. McCain. Complaining has a place, I guess, but commitment is what changes things.
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Gustav-
Our anger has nothing to do with Obama being half black. If Michael Steele were running for President, I would vote for him and he is 100% black.
Barak Obama is a radical. He is worse than Liberal. He has worked with and associates with radical Marxist Socialists. That is what scares us who are loyal to this country and what it was founded upon: freedom.
Socialism is enforced equality. It is being taught in our schools.
If Obama is elected there will be no more homeschooling as it will be outlawed. Our children will be forced to attend these indoctrination or "re-education" camps with curriculum written by William Ayers. They will be taught to hate country first, then individualism next. That is what scares us Conservatives.
You need to wake up, Gustav and Jesusisjustalrightwithme. I am voting for John McCain because he knows what it is like to have all his rights taken away from him. He knows what it is like to fight for one's country. He knows what war is and what it costs. America is at war!! We are fighting a brutal enemy, like the ones in Kenya....which supports Obama....that seeks to kill anyone who does not believe as they do.
Christians are being slaughtered in Kenya and in the Sudan by Muslims. And Barak Obama has said he will do nothing to stop it. Arab and MUslim countries are supporting an Obama presidency because they know he will do nothing if they attack us...and they will attack us both here and abroad. Obama will do nothing but say it is George Bush's fault for all the hatred in the world. Your mantra, I know. No need to repeat it here.
John McCain knows the costs of not doing the right thing. He is pro-life, Obama is pro-abortion on demand.
It is about more than race....it is about America.
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Will the coming Fairness Doctrine apply to public schools, or just radio stations?
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That's fine. Then I expect a ban or an email. Since Fred can warn me all by himself, lefty troll.
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You're a lefty troll.
Ha ha. I love "real debating."
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Wow, *now* you try to call me out for calling you a lefty troll. I've been doing it for a bit now.
Poor little guy, don't like it when the truth gets called?
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I think I've explained this. While I'll accept the label of "troll" as that term is used in blogging, I oppose the label of "lefty." You are farther to the political left than I am. You appear to support McCain, who is a big government leftist for Chrisake.
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I am a parent of a 6th grader in RUSD. I will be attending the PTA meeting tonight. I don't know if this is in my child's school, but I will find out. And I will be asking some questions.......
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This thread is hilarious. Plus, if you showed it to any fence-sitting voter it would almost certainly influence them to vote for Obama.
As for the issue, it was, in my opinion, inappropriate to include the Obama section in the text book. That said, I suspect that stupidity, and not conspiracy is to blame, and everyone who has claimed that "this is just the tip of the iceberg in our socialist schools" is overreacting.
Keep in mind that:
1. Schoolchildren cannot vote.
2. The children of Republicans will likely react as all of you did to this.
3. The Republican parents of these children will almost certainly benefit from this as it makes Obama look bad.
It's nice that you're all so concerned about socialism now, but I'd be more sympathetic had you all not voted to reelect the current president. Of the last two presidents, the Democrat was, without question, the bigger promoter of small government and free markets (Clinton - Welfare Reform, NAFTA, budget surplus), while the Republican, uhm, wasn't (Bush = a larger increase in discretionary spending, even without the war, the hurricanes, and the drug benefit, than LBJ's great society, medicare drug benefit, doubling education spending, increase in agricultural spending. and a huge tax increase that you don't realize exists. Oh, and all of the creepy increases in executive power, althought that is admittedly more communist than socilaist).
So your predicitions as to who will be a socilaist are a bit weak.
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Jesushater -- for someone who doesn't think this story is such a big deal you sure are wasting a lot of your time on this blog and cluttering this thread with stupid comments. Why are you still here if it is of no interest to you?
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Petunia,
I find stupid people to be really funny.
Paul,
Exactly.
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School children can't vote? DUH! You obviously completely missed the point PaulNoonan. Try again.
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I think you just like to spread your hate around -- Jesushater. Any normal person would move on.
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Oh for crying out loud. You want to know what is in my kid's school agenda about success? A piece on Vanessa Hudgens. You know, Miss High School Musical who is plastered all over the internet for sending naked pictures of herself over her cell phone. Trust me, I would rather have a damn article about Barack Obama regarding success than some bimbo! And yes, I would rather have an article about Sarah Palin or John McCain or even George Bush, too.
Get a grip.
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I'm not spreading hate. Start back at the top. I'm pushing the idea of giving a guy the benefit of the doubt. To not pounce on everything and scream in outrage at tiny problems. You guys are the ones pushing hate. I'm trying to tell you to calm down. Or at least I was. Now that I see you won't I'm calling you idiots. But I did give you the benefit of the doubt first.
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I think you may have missed the point, Petunia. My pointwas that stupidity, and not conspiracy, led to this ill-advised text book. The fact that it was aimed at children indicates that this could not possibly help Obama. In fact, if this was conspiracy, and not stupidity, Republicans would be the likely conspirators, as their interests are served here.
I suspect, Petunia, that your point is that this is an example of attempted incotrination in the public schools. If it is, it's pretty lame. Indoctrination is better if it's subtle. If the target knows that they are being indoctrianted, it doesn;t really work.
Many public school textbooks suck, but this is a separate issue.
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paul needs to watch "a clockwork orange" if he is too myopic to see the big picture.
but since you like pretty lists:
1. the point is not to get their vote, its to indoctrinate. rewrite history. exclude history and the such.
2. they will react. then next year when it happens again, the parents not only need to fight the normal things they dont want thei child doing, they have to fight the so-called system they are forced to send their children.
3. the parents might benefit in the short term, but over the long haul its the 2 parents againts the school. good times.
4. paul, again you come to the table witn less than nothing. i'd say go read a book, but now we know skewed that can be.
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After looking at the material, I would agree that it's not a conspiracy. This material was printed and released long before anyone knew Obama would be the Democratic nominee. And even then, it's more of an analysis of a good speech and an inspiring story. Of course McCain has an inspiring story, too, and one could argue that it should be included in textbooks. But that doesn't negate Obama's story. To include both would be balanced given the current reality, but nobody knew what today's political reality would be when this book was published.
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" I hate left-wingers and right-wingers."
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Jesushater -- in your own words you are nothing but a hater and the ONLY reason why you are hanging around is to spread your hate.
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Still Unreal, what book are you reading right now? We can talk about our reading lists. I'm reading Neal Stephenson's Anathem. It's good, but quite dense. Doesn't really pick up steam until around page 300.
Let's take on your points.
1. So the plan is to indoctrinate them into, what, being impressed by a guy who will be out of office by the time they can vote?
2. Parents don't need to fight to have this taken out. If you think it is an example of bias, you can use it as an example of bias. This is not hidden. It's a big obvious 15 page section. It's right in front of you. That is why your point is stupid, becasue there is no way not to notice this.
3. There's only one child in the school?
4. Really, less than nothing? What about all of the evidence and logic that I used? And speicific examples? Maybe you drooled on those comments and missed them.
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You better get used to this idea; the liberals are in charge now and it's only going to get worse. Either leave the country (where to, I'm not sure), or wait for the next civil war (liberals vs. conservatives) in the next 50-100 years.
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This appears to be simply the text of his keynote speech to the Democratic National Convention in 2004. It is available online if anyone needs to read it. It's a fine example of a speech. (I think a wise educator however would save this particular assignment until after election season.)
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The more sites I see like this, the more excited I get about the fact that a change is coming....
OK and maybe I'm also just a little anxious to see the deer in headlights look on everyones face when he is elected president of the USA.
Starting a blog to hate on a man who is bringing unity across this hateful country...Zero Dollars.
Gathering as many other people filling with hate to join the Lynch mob....Zero Dollars.
The look on all of your faces on Nov. 4th....PRICELESS
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"To include both would be balanced given the current reality, but nobody knew what today's political reality would be when this book was published."
were you dropped on your head alot......last week?
if it was published in the last 8 years they should not be so detached from society.
but then again, BDS will do that to ya..
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Here is a way to help keep your sanity:
Make sure your Middle School student also reads "The Cat in the Bag" book. In Chapter 7, you get a perspective on the Democratic Party that makes sense of all this.
(http://www.tcitb.com/chapter7.htm)
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Where have you been, Still Unreal? Nobody knew for sure until after the South Dakota primary who the nominee would be. We certainly didn't know eight years ago. How many of us reading had even heard of Obama eight years ago?
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Hey, everybody!
Lets all get full of ourselves, just like Noonan!
You want dense? Read “Foucault’s Pendulum.”
You want eye-opening? Read “Obama Nation.”
I’ll just skip to 4:
Your logic is only in your warped mind Noonan.
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Hey, do any of you realize that Obama is the first black man ever to run for the President of the United States. It doesn't matter if he wins or loses, it's going in the history books. And to be angry and scared and freaked out over this seems like paranoia.... and by the way, some of you need anger management!
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Radzich, you are quite the toolbox....and an illeterate one.
my comment was on the status of "balanced" reality that should be present with or without obama.
now go crawl back under your rock.
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Just some early indoctrination, Comrades!
Comrade Obama wants to catch them very young so that they might give their all to the Glorious Cause!
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sorry, kris, the good rev. jackson would disagree with you.
he's not even the first black man to be nominated by a party.
oh, and by the way, mr. hawaii-come-ivy league is black 'cause its convenient.
dont scoff.
if - like some mulatto's - he looked mostly white, would you still call him black?
think rev. wright would?
get real.
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You adivsed me to read a book. Typically, if you bring up a point I will answer it no matter how stupid that point is. The reason i answered and showed myself to be "full of myself" is that you engaged in the logical fallacy of arguing from authority (and the good ole Ad Hominem, which is a close relation) by attempting to paint me as either ignorant or crazy. As you did this by suggesting that I was not well read I needed to establish that I am in fact far more well read than you are. Also, The Name of The Rose is a bit better, although most Eco is worth reading.
If you have anything substantive to add, other than conspiratorial conjecture that liberals are attemtping to brainwash us by including speeches that everyone heard already in textbooks, perhaps then we can have an adult discussion. Until then you remain Still Unreasonable.
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Hey, do any of you realize that Obama is the first black man ever to run for the President of the United States.
I'm sure Jesse Jackson will feel good about how history remembers him...
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Didn't Jesse Jackson run in '88?
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uh...yeah, here in rural Ohio they're calling him black! And by the way...Mr. Hawaii come-ivy league that's funny. Anyway, I'm glad I fumbled on to this site. I didn't realize how hateful people are. I should have, but didn't. From my observation, these bloggers and my republican friends all have one thing in common...fear and hate, oh yeah and greed. I live in a nice big farm house in a rural area, 3 kids and a hard working husband. Sometimes robbing Peter to pay Paul.....but I'd still give what I could to someone less fortunate...even to someone who might not deserve it. Guess you guys would call that a do-gooder...
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gee, noonan, in the first paragraph you go out of your way to prove how clueless to sarcasm you are.
in the second, i got bored.
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Well, wedonot spew outhate liketheRev Wright andthe rest of Obama's Chicago friends. Do you know who these people are. One tried to kill Marines at a dance, the other is a Black Liberation theologist (Look up Liberation Theology and Black Liberation Theology, Marxism masqurading as a religion). Another is a Iraqi that stolemoney from the redeveopment of his country, I can go onandon about his connectios to radicals.
I do not hate Obama orany Democrat, I hatetheir politics.
Waht I do fear is Obama's Chicago Style Politics going across thisgreat nation. We arestarting to seesome fit with ACORN. The 15 states that they are in, have gotten thousands of illegal voter registration. They saythey haveover a million,which means about 200,000 - 500,000 are probably illegal.
Yes, I am very fearful ofan Obama presidency, beacsue he will causeour economy to fall way below whatit is now. he wil tax capital gains, coporation and income ins a time of a downturn in the economy. the stupidistthing you can do.
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Your inability to get through 2 paragraphs is the reason that you are not worth listening to.
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Let me make this simple.
If Obama was nomiated or not this editor clearly is pushing a pro-Obama leftist agenda.
Education is supposed to be down the middle.
Education is NOT indoctrination.
These same teachers are pushing one side of global warming as fact, requiring kids to write reports about Al Gore's lie filled movie etc.
And, this close in a Presidential race teachers should present both sides, not one.
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Very frustrating - I'm an acquisition librarian and I figured it would be easy to find out more about this book online. No dice - McDougalLittell.com does have a literature book for Wisconsin 8th-graders, but no details (thanks a lot, online store!) and Amazon, OCLC and a bevy of the usual online bibliographic resources have crapped out. Could we get an ISBN? It's a 10- or 13-digit number, usually on the back of the title page or on the back cover. That would help a lot to nail down this thing. Yeah, I'm one of those obsessed librarians who actually LIKE chasing down the last particle of info. 
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Well, you people have more confidence that Obama is going to win and than I do. I guess where I live they aren't feeling it. And finally...if he does win, I'm looking forward to a tax break......and if my husbands company generates a pay check for him that is 250,000 or more, we'll gladly give back and yes maybe some of those won't deserve it, but God will judge that. Uh Oh I just mixed politics and religion. God bless you all and may the best man win. .....
YES that ACORN ordeal is scary.
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OMG Rabzich you have got to be joking? At least the Dems put something into the bailout for americans???? Yeah Like 6 million for wooden arrows for kids in Oregon? Or 278 MILLION for "Thats Right" WOOL RESEARCH. We are in the worst financial crisis of our time and that is what they do????? Not to mention that list goes on and on and on!!!!
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bored of your template, noonan.
i got too busy poking needles in my eyes.
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Kriss, I also live in rural Ohio. I am a nurse and a volunteer. I have given to many charities to help poor people. I also opened my home to victims of a fire.. I have NO problem sharing. I was a hillary supporter.. Last month I left the democratic party because it no longer is my party. It is the democratic socialist party.. I am NOW a republican and will have NO part in bringing down our country by voting for that fraud Obama.. I will DIE for MY country before I do that.
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Rabzich, watch this and choke on it you hack!
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Wow Amy...you don't like Obama!
...I'm also a volunteer and give a percentage of our income to help others, but there are not enough charities or volunteers to take care of all the needs. Mental hospitals in our area have closed down, programs for the Elderly have been cut off.(Who have no money dut to the current admin)not to mention THEY NEED MEDICINE THAT THEY CANT AFFORD> My husbands grandfather died because he couldn't afford his medication and was too proud to ask us for help! Again, their just isn't enough good people like you out there to volunteer, heck, they don't have enough time for their own families.
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Ha ha. Still unreal is here now and ready to real debate! I'm sure the logical falacies will flow like wine from this point on. If Still Unreal and Mickey had a blog together, that would be the realdebatiest blog ever.
Look, the fact of the matter is that if you guys don't know what's in the rest of the book, you don't know whether or not it's too biased. I'm not saying it isn't too biased, I'm saying that you don't know it is.
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Amy, wow, you don't like obama!
I'm a volunteer too and we give a percentage of our income to help others. But there aren't enough charities or volunteers to help all the needs. In my area, they are shutting down state mental hospitals, cutting fund to area angency on aging(the elderly are victims...they cant afford their meds or decent care) I have read and heard Republicans actually say that this is THEIR FAULT!!! My dad who worked in a machine shop for 35 years had his retirement stolen from him !!! My husbands grandfather died because he couldn't afford all his meds and was too proud to ask us for help!!! Your an educated person being a nurse, can't you see what's going on?
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this is really addictive. I gotta get off here. Hi jesusisjustalright...
I guess I'll ask the loaded question...yikes here I go....Amy why do you think Obama is such a fraud? Are you sure?
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This 15 page paean to the (non)messiah isn't a pamphlet or separate piece. It's bound into the Literature book starting on page 830, according to the article!
That means the book will be used for years to come. Probably intended to engender affection for Dear Leader over his rule... I mean term. If he ever allows elections again.
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These "teachers" are truly disgusting.
America: 7/4/1776 - 1/19/2009
Amerika: 1/20/2009 - the revolution
The only saving grace is that the looney left states (like Wisconsin) that elect Obama are likely to suffer the most in the depression he will create. Conservatives in the conservative states know how to survive on their own; liberals don't.
As for me, my business is laying off the liberals FIRST. Let them sue; I'll be out of business anyway after Obama gets through with us. I'll retire.
Read the frightening "Obama Timeline" at:
http://colony14.net/id41.html
and "What Obama would do..." at:
http://colony14.net/id35.html
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Learn about the Obama secret plan to implelement Black Socialism in America! We must do something before it is TOO LATE!!
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Any good that Obama may have done with his 2004 speech, was completely undercut by his speech on racism in America.
When he equivocated the racism of his typical white woman grandmother with that of his pastor, spiritual adviser, and man who purports to understand the word of God, and speak the word of God, that showed a clear disconnect in Obama's thinking. He can't discern the huge differences in power from his grandmother and a religious leader?
Up to the point he gave the speech in 2004, which some of you seem to believe gives him the same prominence as MLK or Rosa Parks, he was JUST A SENATOR FROM IL, AND A NEW ONE AT THAT!
Was similar attention (in page length) given to Shirely Chisholm, and Jesse Jackson? I'm guessing NOT. What about Clarence Thomas?
Nope, this book reeks of indoctrination, especially given the timing of its publication and use.
Anything as controversial as Obama, is something that should be debated in college level courses.
At the minimum, since the damage is already being done, the school should force the teacher to present a more balanced view of this election season and all it's participants.
Do you think they will add a supplement about this great man's affiliation with a known domestic terrorist who still believes that bombing buildings and a judge's home (with the family in it) was a good thing, and wish he had done more? How about when it's revealed that Ayers was the one who actually wrote his books.
A question to all you English teachers -- If you write, don't you need to practice and refine that skill on a regular basis? Wouldn't you at least have some other pieces of written work? Isn't writing at the caliber Obama has claimed to have done something that would be from a writer who has a near obsession with writing? Wouldn't your written word match your verbal vernacular for the most part?
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I am here, from Boyd Co., Ky. My husband and I ran into our granddaughters the other day. So we all had lunch, and the oldest started talking about Obama.
She said, "McCain will start WWIII" !!
I asked here where she heard that, and she just looked at me, I then asked if it was at school, she then said, "Yes".!
Their father was with them, so I figured if there was to be a call made to the school, it should be his call.....but I seriously doubt there will be a call to the school. We have too many parents and 30 somethings, that don't seem to want to stand up and defy this agenda.
Once the Russians said they would take us over without firing a shot, now the Muslims are saying,"We will use your democracy, to end your democracy."
If we want to save our Country, from socialists, communists, and terrorists...it's time to stand up and tell these far left liberals, we have had enough!
I am 62 yrs. old, and have never before seen so many people, that want government to give them $$$ or rob from the rich to "spread the wealth", as Obama says.
This is a serious situation here.
I have tried to disuss issues with Obama's supporters, but all you get from them is, "you are a racist", "you are a hillbilly", "a redneck"...they are crude, rude and make fun of people in Ky., W.VA., Southern Ohio, and small town citizens.
I have fought illegal immigration for years, due to the costs to us...and I will tell you, Obama told LaRaza, he will grant amnesty to them.....he will play Robin Hood to take care of them...with our tax dollars.
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It is interesting that the newest version of this textbook has a section from Obama's Dreams of my Father mixed right in with Walt Whitman and Edgar Allan Poe!
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P.S.
Do not think Obama will not raise taxes. He will have to, as he has a bill right now, that is called, the Global Poverty Act. It is aligned with the UN.
If signed, it will tax us over $2000 each citizen, to give to Africa and allow the UN to tax us.....this means, we will a big hit to our sovereignty!!
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MUST I remind everyone that Obama is NOT black, he is bi-racial! I don't care what he calls himself! He is lying and that is part of his deceit! We whites should all be very insulted that he won't acknowledge that he is also one of us! It's ironic because a racist is running for President and I don't hear anyone screaming about it, at least not loud enough!
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Those who consider Obama 'not a Uniter' really need to think about why they feel that way? Is it because he really divides people? Or is it because he makes them face their true feelings about race? Most of the time it goes back to the 'I love minorities, I just don't want them living next to me' double standard that still runs rampant in this country.
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Sorry Gianna, but your comment is a bunch of crap! Living in Milwaukee in the inner city, I don't get what the hell you are talking about. For the first time since I've lived here, I've seen lots of McCain/Palin signs. James T. Harris receives death threats daily for his support of McCain, and he's black. But I've sure heard from a lot of people who live in the suburbs about this racism thing.
They even say that if a Black doesn't vote for Obama that means they are racists!
Are you blood kidding me?
Was Stephanie Tubbs-Jones a racist?
Are the people who hate Obama because he ignored their repeated phone calls to make complaints about the privatized public housing units they lived in didn't have windows and had sewage backing up into their kitchen sinks, are they racist too?
Obama is NOT a uniter, because he has aggravated every social division --class, race, gender, generational, there's even fighting among seniors at nursing homes -- and caused a huge rift in his own party just to further his political career. Atheists are now struggling to support him because he wants to expand the "Faith-based initiatives" and his surrogates compare him to Jesus Christ (Jesus Christ was a community organizer, Pontious Pilate was a governor.)
When he is posed basic questions about his policies, inconsistencies, and lack of a record he screams racism! He is causing the exact opposite of what he claims to be.
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From the Fox News website:
A spokesman for Houghton Mifflin said Obama's passage appeared in its national edition of the 2008 textbook, but that the decision to include his writings occurred in 2005, before the Illinois politician decided to run for president.
"The more recent editions bearing 2009 copyrights of these books, published in 2008, do not include the selection," Richard Blake told FOXNews.com. "Once it was known that he was running for president, the selections were removed."
There are MANY reasons to hate RUSD, but this isn't one of them.
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Obama is in fact an Agent of the British
Crown and World Banking interests, and the US is definitely headed for Socialism / Fascism. Expect you economy to totally implode next year. Obamas
role is one of crowd control and pacification ( A false Agent of Change )
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The lame excuse by some moron that using his 2004 speech might simply be an innocent way to show a great example of a "black" speech. Like most Obamorons today, they forget that a true Master of spealing, MLK, did it long ago, and far better. His words were inclusive, versus the nasty class warfare garbage BHO rants about. Also... MLK always spoke the same way. Herr Obama changes his pitch, pentameter and diction depending on the crowd. He can be upper class elite, or the chummy, slang-riddled pulpit preacher on demand. I can tell, without looking, who he is speaking to-- just by his voice. Condescending sleezeball.... not a master orator.
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Thomas,
That was quite a speech lesson. Perhaps someone should print a text book that includes a speech by each of those men and then students could compare and contrast their styles?
jesusisjustalrightwithme |
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This is nothing to panic over. Mc Dougall -Littel often profile political and other social figures. I have seen Ronald Reagan in one of their books. Most likely it is an excerpt from his book. Part of the "15 pages" are vocabulary preview and questions and other assessments to the story.
I am not a huge fan of McDougall - Littel and I am a "liberal teacher."
I prefer using entire novels or classic short stories. In the state standards, students must be exposed to certain types of writing such as biography, narrative, comedy, etc. So this is probably covering biography.
So I wouldn't get too excited yet over this.
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Thomas, Most likely MLK, Jr is also included in the book. Usually "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," or "I have a Dream" are included. It might be best to get a copy of the text and peruse the entire thing before making judgements. Like I said before as a liberal, I am not a fan of the big textbook companies as they tend to water down or overly focus on one aspect of a famous person instead of offering more enlightening writings or multiple writings from the same author.
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Paul and JIJARWM: I really don't know why you guys waste your time with this crowd. Of course, it is your time to waste and I must thank you because it has been a hilarious ten minute ride.
Tim |
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makes me sick that this "man" merits any space in literature at this point...i have encountered a similar problem in my sons civics class in high school in canada... we do have an election going on... but do they discuss that? NOPE they need to evaluate OBAMA commercials and look at his wifes latest outfit...it makes me SICK!!!
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Seriously? I am amazed that a mom has this much time on her hands to throw a fit over a piece oflLiterature. Take a hint lady....YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT COMPLAINED SINCE SEPT 2007! Schools have more important things to worry about than pathetic issues like this.
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kitty: "man"?
in quotation marks?
do you have any idea what that looks like?
Mike Rabzich |
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Hi
My name is Courtney Willet. I want to tell a joke I learned today in my fifth grade class, since it is a Full Moon tonight.. and Halloween is near..
Why do Ghosts ride elevators?
Give up?
It raises their spirits...
Bye.
Courtney Harris |
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10.14.08 - 9:24 pm | #
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racine is kinda of sh%thole anyway.
Yadda |
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"Out of Many, One" is the United States of America's official motto .... E Pluribus Unum. May God protect Obama from Right Wing lunatics.
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Yes we are all lunatics that find it sick how peopel call Obama The One, The Light Walker, The messiah and treat him as a God.
He is a crooked Chicago Politician, nothing more. He does have good speech writers though.
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This is amazing. Textbooks have an entire section on the Democrat candidate for President and no one else. Children get indoctrinated with pure propaganda. How many pages are there for George Washington? Yet school libraries shelves, let alone textbooks, cannot even contain conservative Christian books because they are "biased," among other reasons. See "How Selection is Used to Censor: The ALA, Conservative Christians, and the Annoyed Librarian's Tour de Force" at http://safelibraries.blogspot.co...censor-
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There is a difference between a literature textbook and a history textbook. Apparently you don't GET that little detail. Try paying attention to the facts.
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unfair influence of voters with taxpayer money - no wait, 8th graders can't vote.
what idiots you are being, making a big deal issue of this. this is a literature textbook that includes one of his speeches to be discusses as an example of a moving speech. whether he wins or not, you cannot deny he is a great speaker. these textbooks take a long time to put together and the selection and approval and ordering process is lengthy. this is a coincidence it came out now. when the decision to put this speech in the book was made, he was not even a pres. candidate yet. you are seeing connections where none exist and making mountains of molehills. he is a great speaker and deserves to be discussed in a lit class for that reason. grow. up.
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Tim, I'm in it solely for entertainment value. I have what is essentially a "stupid commenter Bingo card" and attempt to get the regulars show off their stuff. Libtard for Mickey, bored dismissal from Still Unreasonable, and the "free space" is the word "Socialist."
PaulNoonan |
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Paul, if we can assemble a list of what should appear in each square, I think I can write it as a web app. You can play along in another window!
John Foust |
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Send this to the DrudgeReport using their news link at www.drudgereport.com so that this gets national attention.
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10.15.08 - 8:38 am | #
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Michael Barone, a very rational columnist, just wrote an article about the coming Obama Thugocracy. This is Michael Barone. Not Ann Coulter, not Bill O'Reilly, not Oliver North... Also, on PBS last night they had a long show on the history of McCain and Obama. When Obama got into the Senate he put together a 2 year plan to avoid controversy and get backing from other Dems. so he would be on top by '06. How about getting into the Senate and doing your job? What a novel idea that would be. By the way, all you Dems who cry racism over criticisms of Obama's tax policy or Palin's hairdoo, you have effectively doubled the Bradley Effect. Welcome to the polls, which are probably even at this point.
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I got some good chuckles in the few minutes I wasted reading this thread. But reading to the bottom made the whole thing worth while. Jason dropped the funniest line in the whole thread.
Welcome to the polls, which are probably even at this point.
Living in an alternate reality must be confusing and frustrating at times.
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Guest, it has plenty of national attention and it was sent to Drudge. He'lll run with it if he wants to.
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3rd Way,
Rather than jumping straight to the hilarious one liners, you should do a bit of research on the polls. The sampling done is heavily weighted towards Democrats. http://
article.nationalreview.co...jUyMmUzODk1M2I=
The reality 4 years ago was that Kerry was being called Mr. President by Bob Shrum. The real reality is that around 50% of the U.S. are not comfortable with Obama as CIC. The "alternate reality" is actually full of people who imagine that Sen. Obama actually has experience and is actually a uniter. Quick: name 5 things he's done.
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3rd Way lives in an alternate reality Jason, but thanks for trying.
Fred |
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To all of the folks on this thread who feel that there's nothing wrong with a section on Obama being included in this textbook, I submit the following question:
Would your opinion be the same if the section were on McCain or Sara Palin instead?
I am truly interested in your responses, so please feel free to reply. But please be honest.
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5 Things Obama Has accomplished:
1. Graduated from Harvard Law.
2. Wrote 2 books.
3. Taught at the University of Chicago (don't know what his title was, but still, not bad).
4. Community organizer
5. Ran a successful campaign for Senate.
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Noonan put down the crack pipe. He went to Harvard on affirmative action.
Dr. Seuss has written more books,
And Gwen Moore got elected.
You are deluded. As most if not all liberals are.
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Sportsfan, if you are stupid enough not to understand that Palin or McCain simply would never be considered you are possibly a Kennedy.
If you do not understand that Obama is a nobody with zero experience at anything other than running his mouth and hanging with subversives then you are possibly a Kennedy as well.
Liberals are by and large immoral. Take Noonan for example. Immoral and dimwitted.
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6. Edited Harvard Law Review but didn't publish anything (books aren't peer reviewed)
7. Adjunct position at U of C and didn't publish anything (books aren't peer reviewed)
8. Had his lawyers unseal Jack Ryan's divorce papers leading to a walk-in for his Senate election
9. Married a lawyer who, despite her inability to pass the bar exam, managed to get several high level positions resulting in hundreds of thousands per year in salary (many lawyers who can't pass the bar exam don't do quite this well)
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Bingo!
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I've got B-Libtard, I-Mickey-as-Gus, N the Free Space, G-AdHominem, and O-Roseindigo claiming that only she knows what socialism is.
Sweet. What do I win?
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Gus, yes I "Palin or McCain would never be considered...". It was a rhetorical question.
My point is, if folks that are OK with this (typically leftists) would also have no problem if it were McCain or Palin, then they are worthy of my consideration.
If not, they're hypocrites.
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Noonan,
Who accomplished this:
-Graduated Harvard
-PHD from U. of Michigan
-Wrote a thesis at Michigan that held his professors in awe.
-Taught at Berkley after winning math awards at Michigan.
-Held a National Science Foundation Fellowship.
That's pretty impressive until you find out it's the Unabomber. I'm not comparing Obama to Kaczynski. My point is what you listed is not really relevant to the conversation. I guess I should have been specific in asking for what he's done in a leadership role. Your response actually helps prove my point about him not having the experience necessary to be POTUS.
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Why would you want someone with political experiance to be POTUS. Do you think politicians are, in general, good at stuff? Why? Based on what?
That shit Paul listed is relevant to the question he responded to.
Also, I saw Good Will Hunting too.
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I'm glad you saw Goodwill Hunting. Too bad you can't read my comments. I said "leadership" not "politics." Good try though.
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I would agree that "politicians in general" are lousy. Obama is actually a pure "politician in general." His entire political career has been spent looking for ways to move upward. I agree, that's a waste. However, some politicians take their job seriously enough to show "leadership." Voting "present" isn't a real good leadership quality. Opposing your party to make things happen, on the other hand is a leadership quality.
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I just added this story to my blog - I have a list going of reasons to homeschool. I happen to live in Racine, but would have listed this story on my blog no matter where it happened. When will people wake up and realize that public schools have one goal: to institutionalize your kids.
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Do you really think I "can't read [your] comments"? I can. But all of his leadership experiance that you dismiss is the non-politcal stuff. Being the editor of Harvard Law Review is a leadership role. He supervised 80 editors. You may think that's lame or that he got the job because of affirmative action, but it's still a leadership role.
He was director of that Project Vote thing, which but him in charge of like 700 volunteers. You may disagree with the worthiness of their mission (as would I) but it's a leadership role.
He's had leadership roles in, and founded, several other organizatons and charities and things like that.
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Jason, you wrote:
"Quick: name 5 things he's done."
The context of thsi request is in "delusional" people believing that Obama "has experience and is a uniter."
If you want a list of 5 things that show leadership qualities, then you should ask for 5 things that show leadership qualities. I can't name that many for either Obama or McCain (or Bush, Clinton).
One of the examples I can think of for McCain is his leadership in getting the McCain Feingold Campaign Finance Reform passed. That was sort of shitty leadership.
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Paul,
Just because McCain's leadership was in furthering the goal of totalitarianism, doesn't mean it isn't leadership experience. Am I right guys?
jesusisjustalrightwithme |
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McCain
-Commanding officer in the Navy.
-Helped normalize relations with Vietnam.
-McCain / Feingold
-Line Item Veto in 1986
-McCain/Lieberman
-the Surge
-Gang of 14
-McCain/Kennedy
-torture related items
I'm not talking about agreeing with everything he's done. But he has a clear record of actually "leading." Leadership is about actually having the courage to go out on the limb and have people criticize what you do. As far as Bush and Clinton, well they were both governors. Sorry, I don't care what you think but that is a leadership position unlike being in the Senate.
As far as the Harvard Law Review, I would agree that is a leadership role.
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I will concede that McCain has more leadership (and regular) experience than Obama. I will not conceded that that is a good thing.
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It's an English textbook. I've read McCain's autobiography and heard many of his speeches. I've read both of Obama's books and have heard many of his speeches. I don't know about most of you, but my writing improved greatly throughout college when I closely read and studied exemplary writing. Ask any literary scholar and they will tell you that of the two candidates, Obama's writing and rhetorical technique is VASTLY superior to that of McCain. "Dreams of My Father" is so eloquent, telling, and engaging, William Buckley's own son says it changed his mind about whom he would vote for in this election. It also changed mine.
This is not about liberal bias. It's about teaching our kids to write and speak well. The last time I checked, that is the primary function of an English textbook. By the way, they ordered that textbook years before McCain even decided to run in the primary.
Daryl |
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I suggest you read Mein Kampf. It was awesome.
I've read some moronic posts in my day, but yours takes the cake. Maybe you could vote for Kurt Vonnegut or possibly Bill Shakespeare too.
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If this isn't a school or a district pushing a candidate down peoples throats. What is it. If my son were still in school and in that class or school. I'd support my son which ever way he went deciding to read or not read the book. It's not a matter of who I feel will make a better president. I don't want to be told how to vote. Being told how to vote shouldn't come to the students like in the form of this book. It's the schools way of hoping the kids will read the book and tell their parents. Vote Obama.
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More than likely the School Board ok'd it. And if that is true, then people need to respond and kick them out of office in the next election. Some of you PTA moms need to run for office, like Sarah Palin did. She should be your inspiration.
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Here are some facts from a homeschooling mom who taught Enlgish.
McDougal Littell is not owned by the McDougal family now. It's gone through incredible changes of ownership and spin-offs over the past few decades. It seems to be under Houghton Mifflin, who might be under some other company.
Alfred McDougal donated to politicians and Yale, his alma mater, in big ways. But he quit McD-L before he started donating to Obama, it looks like.
This textbook is an English textbook, not a history text, and not a booklet. Even if it were a new book, it had to go through it's review processes, which means it was probably being readied over two years ago. Obama's speech is in there because it is a good speech. Patrick Henry's speech is in the literature book that I am using now. Henry probably didn't give the speech that we know as Henry's famous speech (Henry's notes are lost; an admirer recontructed the speech years later). But the speech we do have is very well crafted. So in class, we talk about both the authorship and the construction of the argument. Thus, if the publishers wanted a speech that is current as well as good, they chose this one of Obama's. As editor of the Harvard Law Review, I hope the man speaks well. We don't give extended public speeches so much anymore, and I'd rather read a politician's than a Hollywood celebrity's.
Textbook selection for a district is another long process, often governed by budgetary concerns before all others. There are textbook selection committees, formed of teachers and sometimes community members, depending on the school. Textbooks must help teachers get students to learn enough to pass state tests and NCLB. After that, they must help students learn the national standards in English. Remember to stay within budget! After these criteria are met, the committee can worry about selections, artwork, and so on. No book is perfect, and it may be that they chose this one because the rest of the selections are good. It is a daunting task. The school board, one hopes, trusts their committee enough to do the job.
There are American lit texts out there that have two or three speeches of GW Bush's in them. Has anyone said anything about those?
Definitely, go to your school and ask to help with text selection. Don't rant and rave, but ask civilly. Ask to volunteer for anything at your school. It would be great to have someone who would show students the correct way to discuss opposing viewpoints, and to hear differing views. Teachers and students on all levels love volunteers, and it is a great act of patriotism to help raise the next generation.
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Seems to me those who are making such a fuss about this book need to have their arguments against this book by using the "Persuasion" Basic Analysis guide published within it.
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• Content—Identify the topic, issue, or problem.
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• Purpose—Besides wanting to persuade you to adopt a position, might the
author have any other purpose (to entertain, inform, or express thoughts or
feelings)?
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• Argument—What is the writer’s claim or position? What reasons and evidence
does the author provide to support this claim?
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• Reasoning and Logic—Identify the author’s mode of reasoning. Also check for
the presence of logical fallacies, or errors, such as overgeneralizations.
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• Persuasive Techniques—Does this author rely upon more than the
logical appeal of an argument to be convincing? If so, what
emotional appeals or other persuasive techniques does this
author use?
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• Evaluation—Are you persuaded to adopt the author’s position?
Why or why not?
A little education can change the world.
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Damn mavericks!
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I find it funny you conservatives are freaking out over Obama. Now you know what it was like to live under the Bush V2.0 thumb for the last eight years. He did the exact same thing Bush V1.0 did, put the country in a worse position in every aspect than when he found it. It will, again, take a democrat to fix all the things Bush screwed up.
For the book, it is a english lit book. Showing pieces from his 2004 speach and from his first book. The text book was reviewed twice by the school board. Once in 2006 and again in 2007. Get your facts straight before you open your mouths.
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Now you know what it is like to have fear. You will no longer have your emty-brain Bush up there. Ahh, I can't wait. It will take a democrat to fix all the problems of Bush v2.0 just like it did after Bush v1.0. How quickly you forget we enjoyed one of the most prosperous times in history under Clinton and Bush v2.0 goes and tanks it.
As far as the textbook, I can tell a majority of you paranoids didn't do any research on the topic. The book was reviewed twice, in 2006 and 2007 by the school review board. They made sure there was no political basis in the book. Now if only we could get that out of the conservatives.
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Incredible, Now its going full speed, we all knew that colleges were for Obama, but now 8th Grade, whatever happened to the truth, Now we rewrite history, tell us, is there anything in this trext book about a true American Hero who spend 5 q/2 years in prision camp, why McCain wants to be President of a counrty filled with narrasistic self promoting blood suckers is besides me, Our Country is now in full decline, the perfect example is the attack on Joe the Plummer, it use to be the American dream to work hard , build a business and own something, now we have blogs attacking him
the fact is that most Americans used to want to be rich, hopefully most want to work to get there, but now most dont wnat to get there honestly, but would rather steal and others think that hand outs are fine,
The Obama organization believes that its all right to give my blood sweat and tears to everyone And that its Patriotic to pay taxes,
NO its not Patriotic to waste my money or anyones, its not Patriotic to give our hard earned dollars to a goverment thats spends our money foolishly and to give it to those who havent worked for it PERIOD.
Now we are getting the BS pitch that we should do the AMERICAN thing an just open our wallets up and spread the wealth, give it to people who dont work, thats Crap, Wherer are the hollywood Liberals, the HipHop Kings, the big shots od sport, let them share their wealth, they have accountants and lawyers, but the average guy gets screwwed, and please 250,000 isnt rich Obama, but to you a guy who didnt even give away 5% of your million dollar income to charity, 250,00 is rich, Bull crap, you cant live in a big city
The only thing that this goverment should provide is safety and the opportunity to be the best I can, We should all have personal responsibility and help those who truely need help, not those who havent worked hard, this isnt the OLD USSR, and we all know how that experiment failed.
Im sick and tired of hearing whinning from those who beleive entitlements are their second names,
This constant belief that we have to take care of everyone, when they dont do anything to take care of themselves will kill this country, what ever happened to self responsibility.
The problem with Obama besides hiding his history, is he takes no repsonsibility for anything bad in his life, and he is selling the masses the philospohy under the pretense that Big brother can take care of you.
Thiss attitude will eventually bankrupt this country, havent we just learned, that you cant give everthing away and not expect consequences, this housing mess is an byproduct of cheap and easy money to everyone, and we have the Liberal Dems in congress to thank,
If we elect Obama there will not be any checks and balances, Nancy Harry Reid and Charlies "the tax dodger" Rangel will ride all over us with help from Obama.
It doesnt matter that Obama is black white green or blue, its its beleiefs that scare me, its his
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If I were a textbook publisher under pressure to produce a literature reader that reflects the diversity of our society and there were an amazing development in this topic, I would be hard pressed not to include it in my reader.
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Open your ears and close your mouth sicko. Typical conservative.
liberalssavestheworld |
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LIBERALSDESTROYTHEWORLD!
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John McCain an Larry Sinclair is a racist and a terrorist.
Obama is kind.
Obama is gentle.
Obama is intelligent.
Obama is a leader of men.
Obama is honest.
Obama is a family man.
Obama is the future.
Obama will win by the greatest land slide of all time.
The days of racism and hate are numbered.
He is the ONE.
Racism will END in 2009.
Hate will END in 2009.
Terrorism will END in 2009.
Goverment crime will END in 2009.
Wall street crime will END in 2009.
Poorness will END in 2009.
Oil company crime will END in 2009.
Gas station price crime will END in 2009.
A vote for John McCain is a wasted effort. Tell youre friends and neighbors to do not bother wasting
their time.
The future is set and the future IS Obama.
NKJFDA |
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Hey you can always home school your kids and teach them how conservatives spend more than liberals, run up the debt by starting unneeded wars and pork projects like the bridge to no where. Make sure you don't teach them how a poor black person earned his way into the best colleges and because the President of the US against all odds.
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I still waiting to hear where the WMDs are. Or, how about bush v2.0 tries to come up with another reason to cover his a#$ for iraq.
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Liberal
The WMDs were not the only reason we went into Iraq. And the military did find WMDs, just not the stockpiles that we thought. They had many duel use factories that could he used for Chemical and Biological weapons when the sanctions were lifted.
Stix |
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Just wondering here. How many of you incredibly worried people have been volunteering with kids in the last few days? The whole point of this is that we're concerned about what happens to our country's kids, so what are *you* doing for them directly, hands on? Just wondering. My classes and volunteering went well, thank you, but we missed you.
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I find it amazing how some people only see what they want to see of others opinions. No, we can't say I see what you say however I don't agree and this is why; all you hear is you are wrong we are right.
As far as all the taxes go, yes they do stink. But as you drive down a road full of potholes and complain just remember how they get fixed or put there in the first place. I'm pretty sure the whole barter and trade system is not in effect anymore.
I love my country and do not wish to see bad things happen to anybody. But did we not walk blindly in to every presidency so far. Yes we hear what they say, and can look up and prove a lot. But you never really know what is gonna happen until after it does.
Do we remember the famous line" I never inhaled",yeah right then why were you holding it? But we voted for him and while he did great things for us, he had an affair in the home of this country, then every one wanted to oust him. Point being you never really know what you get.
You take the good, you take the bad. (The facts of life.)
Rikii |
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I know there were "other" reasons why we went into Iraq. The only problem is, those reason were produced after they couldn't find the WMDs that the invasion was sold on.
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Holy fawk, I feel so much stupider after reading most of the comments on here. You are all a bunch of dumb, racial hicks with your heads up your ass so you can't see what is really going on. He is a part of our history, like it or not, he is the first black pres noninee. I'm not even going to try to respond to all the ignant assanine comments.
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This is outragious! State tax dollars help pay for the textbooks used in the school system. I did not sign up for my money to go to promoting Obama's ego fest. This is too frightening for me me bear. The implications that the Obama machine has even inflitrated into our children's textbooks before he is even elected to the presidentcy, mean he already has too much power and influence. So, our schools and voting processes are already under the Democrats control. Next, we will be paying for all our children's textbooks to be changed to read a "socialist" society" - no longer a democracy. Very very scrary Barry.
Bonnie J Brown |
10.21.08 - 9:38 am | #
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With Obama's socialist agenda comes indoctrination, dontcha know! Wake up people. You better throw some cold water in the faces of all your left wing liberal democrat friends & acquaintances! Nudge your undecided friends too. Obama has become a legend in his own mind and if he can't get you he will get your children! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!
Stephanie Jones |
10.21.08 - 10:33 am | #
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How can anyone not find this media made celebrity, pop culture icon frenzy going on for Barack Obama extrmely disturbing? I think it's creepy!
SAJO |
10.21.08 - 10:39 am | #
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I was voting for Barack Obama until...
I googled
Obama ACORN
Obama Alwaleed bin Talal
Obama Ayers
Obama Barry Soetoro
Obama vs. Berg
Obama Bernie Sanders
Obama The New Black Panthers
Obama Chicago Annenberg Challenge
Obama Cloward-Piven Strategy
Obama Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
Obama Donald Warden
Obama Emil Jones
Obama Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac
Obama Farrakhan
Obama Frank Marshall Davis
Obama Franklin Raines
Obama George Soros
Obama Jim Johnson
Obama Khalidi
Obama Khalid al-Mansour
Obama Malcom X
Obamma Mohammed Hasan Chandoo
Obama Raila Odinga
Obama Rezko
Obama Saul Alinski
Obama Woods Fund
Obama Wright / Unity Trinity Church
SAJO |
10.21.08 - 10:50 am | #
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These are good! Here's to "getting out of the bucket"! I'm glad I did!
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SAJO |
10.21.08 - 10:56 am | #
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Obama & DNC Admit All Allegations of Federal Court Lawsuit - Obama’s “Not” Qualified to be President
Obama Should Immediately Withdraw his Candidacy for President
For Immediate Release: - 10/21/08 - Complete contact details and a pdf are at the end of this article
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/21/0 - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and tbe DNC “ADMITTED”, by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is “NOT QUALIFIED” to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President and the DNC shall substitute a qualified candidate. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Berg stated that he filed Requests for Admissions on September 15, 2008 with a response by way of answer or objection had to be served within thirty [30] days. No response to the Requests for Admissions was served by way of response or objection. Thus, all of the Admissions directed to Obama and the DNC are deemed “ADMITTED.” Therefore, Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President.
OBAMA - Admitted:
1. I was born in Kenya.
2. I am a Kenya “natural born” citizen.
3. My foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
4. My father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr. admitted Paternity of me.
5. My mother gave birth to me in Mombosa, Kenya.
6. My mother’s maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
7. The COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website “Fightthesmears.com” is a forgery.
8. I was adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
9. I was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
10. I was not born in Hawaii.
11. I was not born at the Queens Medical Center in Hawaii.
12. I was not born at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Hawaii.
13. I was not born in a Hospital in Hawaii.
14. I am a citizen of Indonesia.
15. I never took the “Oath of Allegiance” to regain my U.S. Citizenship status.
16. I am not a “natural born” United States citizen.
17. My date of birth is August 4, 1961.
18. I traveled to Pakistan in 1981 with my Pakistan friends.
19. In 1981, I went to Indonesia on my way to Pakistan.
20. Pakistan was a no travel zone in 1981 for American Citizens.
21. In 1981, Pakistan was not allowing American Citizens to enter their country.
22. I traveled on my Indonesian Passport to Pakistan.
23. I renewed my Indonesian Passport on my way to Pakistan.
24. My senior campaign staff is aware I am not a “natural born” United States Citizen.
25. I am proud of my Kenya Heritage.
26. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my first name.
27. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate
SAJO |
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28. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my place of birth.
29. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my first name.
30. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my last name.
31. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my place of birth.
32. The document identified as my Indonesian School record from Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia is genuine.
33. I went to a Judge in Hawaii to have my name changed.
34. I went to a Senator and/or Congressman or other public official in Hawaii to have my name changed.
35. I had a passport issued to me from the Government of Indonesia.
36. The United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
37. I am ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States.
38. I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship to the country of Indonesia.
39. I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship to the country of Kenya.
40. I am an Attorney who specializes in Constitutional Law.
41. Kenya was a part of the British Colonies at the time of my birth.
42. Kenya did not become its own Republic until 1963.
43. I am not a “Naturalized” United States Citizen.
44. I obtained $200 Million dollars in campaign funds by fraudulent means.
45. I cannot produce a “vault” (original) long version of a birth certificate showing my birth in Hawaii.
46. My “vault” (original) long version birth certificate shows my birth in Kenya.
47. The only times I was to a Hospital in Hawaii was for check-ups or medical treatments for illnesses.
48. Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to me.
49. Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to me.
50. I was born in the Coast Province Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
51. I represented on my State Bar application in Illinois that I never used any other name other than Barack Hussein Obama.
52. I went by the name Barry Soetoro in Indonesia.
53. My Indonesian school records are under the name of Barry Soetoro.
54. I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when admitted to the State Bar of Illinois to practice Law.
55. I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when I was Sworn into my United States Senate Office.
56. I hold dual citizenship with at least one other Country besides the United States of America.
SAJO |
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DNC - Admitted:
1. The DNC nominated Barrack Hussein Obama as the Democratic Nominee for President.
2. The DNC has not vetted Barrack Hussein Obama.
3. The DNC did not have a background check performed on Barrack Hussein Obama.
4.The DNC did not verify Barrack Hussein Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States.
5. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.
6. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born” United States citizen.
7. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was not born in Hawaii.
8.The DNC admits they have not inquired into Barrack Hussein Obama’s citizenship status.
9. The DNC admits they have a duty to properly vette the Democratic Nominee for President.
10.The DNC admits Lolo Soetoro, M.A., an Indonesian citizen adopted Barrack Hussein Obama.
11. The DNC admits the Credentials Committee has been aware of this lawsuit since August 22, 2008 as the lawsuit was faxed to our Washington D.C. Office on August 22, 2008.
12. The DNC admits their Credentials Committee failed to verify and/or inquire into the credentials of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as the President of the United States.
13. The DNC admits their Credential Committee’s Report failed to address the issues of Barack Hussein Obama’s ineligibility to serve as President of the United States.
14.The DNC admits Howard Dean, Chair Person has and had knowledge Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and ineligible to serve as the President of the United States.
15. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all Democratic citizens of the United States have been personally injured as a result of not having a qualified Democratic Presidential Nominee to cast their votes upon.
16. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional Right to vote for the President of the United States and to have two (2) qualified candidates of which to choose from.
17. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional right to have a properly vetted Democratic Presidential Nominee of which to cast their vote.
18. The DNC admits an FBI background check is not performed on the Presidential or Vice Presidential Candidates.
19. The DNC admits the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
20. The DNC admits they collected donations on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama for his Presidential campaign.
21. The DNC admits Plaintiff and Democratic citizens donated money based on false representations that Barack Hussein Obama was qualified to serve as the President of the United States.
SAJO |
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22. The DNC admits if Barack Hussein Obama is elected as President and allowed to serve as President of the United States in violation of our Constitution, it will create a Constitutional crisis.
23. The DNC admits Barack Hussein Obama took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution.
24. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a “natural born” citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff’s rights to due process of law in violation of the United States Constitution.
25. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a “natural born” citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff’s rights to Equal Protection of the laws in violation of the United States Constitution.
26. The DNC admits the function of the DNC is to secure a Democratic Presidential Candidate who will protect Democratic citizen’s interests, fight for their equal opportunities and fight for justice for all Americans.
27. The DNC admits the Democratic National Committee has been promoting Barack Hussein Obama’s Presidential election knowing he was ineligible to serve as President of the United States.
Our website obamacrimes.com now has 50.7 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers, radio and TV stations. Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire
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SAJO |
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"Obama is not a "uniter" but a good example I suppose of the most divisive type of politics possible. Obama has successfully implemented class warfare, gender warfare/misogyny, race warfare, culture warfare and religious warfare into the election campaign. Now begins the campaign for the "hearts and minds" of our children."
This was Alinsky's whole premise in "Rules for Radicals".
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/c...ism/
alinsky.htm
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Would be interested in knowing who gives the approval and how it is established what is to be printed in our childrens text books. Are there no proofreaders and going over the curriculum of acceptable and not acceptable or is to be just dictated to us and compared to subliminal projection that the more we see it the more we will buy it. The teachers union has to much say in our childrens future .
g t |
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Wow! After reading most of these posts the only conclusion I can draw is that there must be one heck of a lot of really stupid people in Wisconsin.
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Interesting posts. But what most people do not know is that the book was the only textbook delayed in being sent to the school. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY!!!!!!! It was a different version than the textbook approved by the teachers council that selected that book. The original version that was reviewed and chosen by the teachers DID NOT have the text about OBAMA. This text was added without notifing the teachers or school administration. Talk about Mein Kompf. This is indoctrination by the publisher himself. What no one is asking is what the publisher's connection is to OBAMA and potentially Bill Ayres.
AGAIN THE TEACHERS DID NOT APPROVE THE VERSION SENT TO THE SCHOOL. IT WAS ADDED SECRETLY BY THE PUBLISHER!!!
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Anonymous - How did you come across that information? If it's true, that is very serious, and the publishers should be held accountable. Why hasn't the school district come forward with that information? All they have to do, is tell everyone about the original book that was approved, and the fault falls right at the publisher's doorstep. Than everyone can look at this with a new set of eyes and ask, "Why was it so important for the publisher to put Obama's story in this textbook?" And why was it so important to include the very political website photo?
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10.21.08 - 10:56 pm | #
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10.22.08 - 2:39 am | #
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Racine Unified School District maintains that only a couple parents have phoned in to question this 8th grade literature book. Please, let's all give them a call and question this book, the publisher's association with Obama/Ayers and his financial contributions to the Obama campaign and the latest news that the article on Obama was not in the approved text book. PLEASE CALL...(262) 635-5600 to speak to someone at Racine Unified.
Let them know that many more of us have serious concerns about this issue!
Consider this fact....8th graders can not vote in this election, but they CAN in the next one. Planting seeds that take time to grow.
Racine Unified Parent |
10.22.08 - 1:56 pm | #
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After reading one of the comments about the vetting or non vetting of Obama and the question of his citizenship being brought up. This is a very serious and alarming incite as to where Obama was born and why an original birth certificate has not been produced. When he is in Hawaii he can obtain one from the hospital , but of course you could of proven that months ago. There must be someone who can produce this very important document and not take his word at this, because we know his word to be nothing but denial after denial and the american people will not lose their constitution because of his backers and fellow socialists.
g t |
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Can we drop this birth certificate argument please? IF HIS MOTHER WAS A U.S. CITIZEN, HE IS A U.S. CITIZEN. Period. End of discussion. Obama has more serious flaws to talk about.
Besides, if he sets a precedent of NON-citizenship (which I doubt) becoming president, then Arnold The Terminator can be on the next ticket and we'll have it made in the shade here in the good ol' U.S. of A.(a little sarcasm here). Arnold would, hiowever, be a better president than Obama will ever be, and much better at unifying the country to boot.
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10.22.08 - 5:24 pm | #
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I think that the book is fine. Barack Obama is the first African-American presidential nominee. This is history. Hilary Clinton also made history by going so far in the primaries. There is nothing that John McCain or Sarah Palin has done to be recognized in a school book.
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Hog, you need to review your history. I think both Shirley Chisholm and Jesse Jackson would be surprised at your statement.
In fact, there have been 13 African-Americans nominated for president. None of them have traveled as far as Obama, but HE IS NOT THE FIRST.
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10.22.08 - 6:32 pm | #
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P.S. to HOG --- There is noting Obama has done to be recognized in a school book either except being half black and half white. I don't think that qualifies one to be included in an English literature book.
And MLK had far better speeches.
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10.22.08 - 6:34 pm | #
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In regards to how I know the information that the publisher committed fraud, lets just say I am afraid of the consequences from the teachers union that is suing to give out and "encourage" I say force teachers in New York to wear them to school.
There is no secret that teachers strongly lean democrat but in this case the book DID not have the Obama photo or article. I am afraid that it must be up to an investigative reporter to pursue this further; hopefully very soon. And hopefully before someone is disciplined in the school district.
I cannot say anymore here. I may have said too much already.... But my conscience has outweighed my fear of personal repurcussion to me or my family.
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10.22.08 - 9:27 pm | #
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I should add one more explanation... Joe the Plumber merely asked a question and the full force of the media gave him an anal enima to punish him for asking for a truthful answer; which Obama apparently tried to give to Joe.
That would make any ordinary Joe afraid of speaking out when they are cowed and intimidated with repurcussions. Joe's union came and all but threatened him about getting his license. Now that is my opion only, but I read between the lines... usually with 98 percent accuracy.
I doubt the media if they read this blog will do anything. Who cares about the little guy anymore in the media? The press only wants to be the politbureau and support Obama no matter what the cost to our society and more importantly freedom.
God help us when our very textbooks are being manipulated with propoganda. Hitler did as much...
Again I am saying too much.. Some will think that I am biased. In fact I have voted for both democrats and republicans and have equally rooted for and hated both sides. Corruption and iron fisted control are not exclusive to one party.
God help us all,
Anonymous
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10.22.08 - 9:38 pm | #
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Anonymous - Thank you for the information. So I wonder what the publisher will have to say about that! I hope everyone contacts the publisher! Maybe they should have to refund all of Racine Unified's 8th grade books!
Racine Unified Parent #2 |
10.23.08 - 9:21 pm | #
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You northern blue state people just love your Democrats.
Who Cares |
10.24.08 - 9:16 pm | #
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As a Democrat for more years than I can remember I have NEVER voted my party line entirely. I have always voted for the person not the party. I I am sick and tired of the winny ass liberals who are trying to take over this country and give everything to those who don't want to work for it. Our forefathers are doing non-stop flips in their graves watching this country over the years from Clinton till now.
The teacher's should ALL stand together and boycott the books until a new one is distributed. I've said all along this is a Hollywood smoke & mirrors election to get a LIBERAL in the White House. It's up to us as AMERICANS to make sure he doesn't get in. I'm very sure there were more than one final copy of the text book to be published and when NOBAMA got the nod from the Democrats the publisher went with the one with NOBAMA in it to help him out. It doesn't matter if everyone talks pos or neg about him they just want people talking about him. They want the name of NOBAMA out there and the liberal news media do just that.
I'm ashamed of anyone that votes along party lines. You are 1 person who can vote for yourself. If Adolf Hitler was running as a Democrat would you stand up and vote along the party line? I would hope not and that's what is going on with this election.
For the Anonymous writer on 10.18.08 8:00 am I am not a racist. My choice for a Black candidate would be Colin Powell. He is a man of integrity who has been there and done something. NOBAMA has gotten him on his side because he needs people who have done something with their lives because he hasn't!! It's NOT about Racism, it's about doing the right thing!! NOBAMA is not the 1st Black candidate, Jessee Jackson was.
This book in Wisconsin is a travesty in the worst way. We can't have Bibles or anything else like that in schools, public monuments are being taken down that have to do with God. SCREW be "Politically Correct," let's just be correct and show the next generation what it's like to D.T.R.T. (Do the Right Thing).
Please invite me to the book burning party, I'll supply the matches. Anyone that viewed the material for that book should be fired and the PTA Prez should be the new Supt. of schools there.
This is a quote from someone else before me. "If we want to save our Country, from socialists, communists, and terrorists..it's time to stand up and tell these far left liberals, we have had enough!"
NOBAMA is one of the BIGGEST Racists I've seen in my 50 years of life. He claims to be Black, but his is Bi-racial and doesn't even claim his white ancestors. I am a VETERAN who stands PROUDLY for his country, but if NOBAMA is elected I will fight every day till the next election to get a BETTER candidate elected in there no matter what his or her party affiliation is,their race, religion or color.
God bless you all and may the best man win,..as long as it's McCain!!
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My Name title is "A Loyal Democrat to the USA, NOT the DEM Party" for the above article. It just didn't show the whole name
A Loyal Democrat to the USA, N |
11.01.08 - 11:19 am | #
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priya |
11.05.08 - 10:42 am | #
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We have been too complacent - for too long ! Now we're in so deep, it seems that it will be very difficult to be able to get out. Now we'll have to tell our kids -- Don't listen to everything they tell you in school and in the school books .... but we'll also have to tell them that they can't expose their views too much - because the risk being outwardly attacked and allienated ! Who is going to save us from today's Hitler ?? Who - when WE were the 'guardiands of freedom and democracy' !! Who is there that can help us ?? We, the People, have happily dug our own grave --- and half of us are happily jumping into it. The other half are musing about 'How the Heck did this Happen ??' What can we do now to get out of it ?? I have no answers. I just know that, we as individuals and families - must fight it in any way we can ... and, yes, pray to God for deliverence !
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11.07.08 - 2:44 am | #
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E Pluribus Unum" (Out of many one)Motto featured on the great seal of the United States. They substituted an eagle for the proposed heraldic shield. Adopted by Congress on June 20, 1782. The Great Seal appears in various currencies, seals and flags.
It now refers to the New World Order, translation: Communism.
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11.15.08 - 1:56 am | #
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