Gravatar Bush flunked everything.


Gravatar That stupid Scott and he has been beating you Dems for years.

What does that say for your side?


Gravatar Another character assination by a "moderate" who drank the Kool Aid
Considering Bush graduated from an Ivy league school shows he is pretty intelligent. He also flew fighter planes in the AF Reserve. They don't hand you the keys of those multi million dollar planes if you are stupid.
And as Fred says, he kicked the democrats ass in the elections and continues to do so to this day.


Gravatar Fred, you're the one who's stupid if you're calling me a Dem.

Listen Dan, I don't know how exposed you are to elite academics, but let me be frank. Bush didn't do well enough to deserve to get into those elite schools, but once there, elites can ride the backs of ambitious types looking to get an "in" with people of influence. I don't know if he did that or not, but there's a difference between earning something and being given something.

Yep, Bush did beat the Dems twice. He may be a master politician or perhaps Karl Rove deserves all of the credit he's getting. (As for "kicking ass", I don't know that 2000 qualifies.)


Gravatar Scott, do you have a man-crush on Al Gore? Your slip is showing.
Your hatred for President Bush has nothing to do with Al Gore being a complete and utter boob.


Gravatar What is it with guys named scott around here? Both claimed they are moderate, but both have a severe case of BDS.


Gravatar Dan, everything is relative.
In the mind of a liberal. He/she/he-she, is MODERATE.
It works like this.
We are supposed to compromise with them, but they don't compromise with us.
Tell you boss that he needs to meet you halfway on your next raise or contract. HALFWAY. MODERATE.
Then propose a 2 MILLION dollar raise for yourself.
Dan, you are now the MODERATE, and if your boss doesn't meet you halfway,................


Gravatar Dan, here is another example of liberal thinking....and it's flawed logic.

Scott H. flunked everything.


Gravatar We do know that president Bush did have a higher GPA then "intellectual" John Kerry. (should read "nuanced")
Of course this is all relative because back then you actually had to earn credits and not just show up.
Now we have such mental giants as Natalie Portman and Jodie Foster garnering 3.0 GPA's from Ivy League schools. The bar has lowered so very far, so very fast, and to think the left runs these places now-a-days.


Gravatar Hey, I was just making a joke.
Please don't accuse me of Gore-love. I voted for McCain back then because neither Gore or Bradley seemed desireable. I then went with Gore in the general election because Bush seemed worse.
As for Kerry v. Bush, I do know the GPA's of the two. I also know that when I was watching the Sunday morning shows in 1998 and 1999, Bush couldn't answer any questions that required any bit of introspection, insight, or knowledge of any policy matter... he could do was mouth 3 stock answers: "Restore honor & dignity to the white house", "I was governor of Texas which is the world's 6th biggest economy", and something about tax cuts. The scary part is that the stock answer he chose didn't even make sense for several of the questions. That's how I am going to judge intelligence.

I don't remember Scott Feldstein claiming to be a moderate.


Gravatar chedhead, I don't know anything about Natalie Portman or Jodi Foster, but are you just assuming they aren't quite intelligent just because they are actresses?


Gravatar I considered listing my non-liberal positions yet again; however, nobody seems to remember them so its obviously a waste of my time - just like my other attempts to bring any differing views to this conservative echo chamber.


Gravatar Scott H, anyone who criticizes a Republican is immediately deemed a Democrat / liberal around here. No other evidence, for or against, can be admitted. You don't conform, you must be one of Them.


Gravatar Foust, people who are hyper critical of Republicans who give Democrats a complete pass for their bad behavior....

Well you get the idea.


Gravatar Which way would you like it, Fred? Would you prefer both sides to give their fellows a pass, but remain hypercritical of others? I'll add "a complete pass" to the list of other assumptions made. I gave who a pass?


Gravatar You miss the point John and I don't have time to explain it right now.


Gravatar You miss the point John and I don't have time to explain it right now.
Fred | Homepage | 01.20.08 - 8:20 pm | #


Now that's a cop out. WEAK.


Gravatar Foust, people who are hyper critical of Republicans who give Democrats a complete pass for their bad behavior....

Well you get the idea.
Fred | Homepage | 01.20.08 - 4:29 pm | #


If you're talking about me, you're either delusional or a complete liar. Seriously, I've been more than willing to say specific liberals or Democrats' actions are hideous or don't get a pass. You on the other hand cling to empty lines and excuses. Example: your argument that Delay's actions were not technically illegal and such.

Even Feldstein was willing to say Democrats were in the wrong.

You're a cheerleader Fred, not much more. You should really learn that you're too old to be walking around with pompoms and a short skirt and yelling "Yay team, we're the B-E-S-T, best, best, best." even when your team is playing horribly.


Gravatar I'll expand on this later Scott...

(I will)


Gravatar "I don't remember Scott Feldstein claiming to be a moderate"
Many times, he has claimed to be a moderate, here and on other blogs.
Next year, he will probably claim to be a Republican and conservative and everyone else are Nazi's.


Gravatar Scott F is in favor of nuclear power, in his mind that makes him a moderate.

He is far from it thought.


Gravatar For the record Scott, I am far from a cheerleader.

90% of what I put out there I do without an opinion. Much of it is for entertainment and to keep things fresh.

Much more is just my thought of an issue. I am no McCain backer but last week I wrote a piece based on my anlysis, I was not cheerleading.

Am I a partisan, hell yes.

Am I willing to call out righties when they behave badly?

Absofrigginlutely. I have done so many times and will continue to do so.

You just don't usally see that from the other side.

Actually when I call out rightie, lefties usually show up to tell me I am doing it for the wrong reasons... I can never win.

Above all I try to make the experience here fun. Light stuff mixed in with the serious stuff. I wish I could find more funny lines from lib blogs for MRQ, frankly they just are not funny.

Frankly much of the body politic today I find so depressing it is sad really.

My big schtick is to point out hypocrisy. That makes me an easy target while people like you look your very best to find circumstances of me being hypocritical.

I do what I do because I like to do it and belive it or not lots of people enjoy it.

Cheerleader? Not so much.

Though I do look fabulous in that little skirt.


Gravatar Fred, I know you do what you do because you enjoy it. You do run a blog with lots of interesting articles and interesting commentary. Your perspective is really strongly biased conservatively though. You can be a conservative and not have this bias. To be such a conservative you'd still be in the same place on the issues, and you'd see where the left's mistakes in reasoning or ignorance are, but you wouldn't generalize these flaws to their overall character as much. I got sucked into the blogosphere through one site, and then Brian Hagedorn's site (if you remember / knew of it). Hagedorn was/is very conservative, but his conservative-tinted glasses weren't as thick and he wasn't as bitterly partisan.


Gravatar "I don't remember Scott Feldstein claiming to be a moderate"
Many times, he has claimed to be a moderate, here and on other blogs.


Dan, I don't read much of other blogs. I do remember him saying he had a moderate stance on specific issues, but never claiming to be a moderate overall.

My self-description as a moderate is not something I decided I wanted to be. Before I became politically engaged or had any party leanings I took a test as has been posted on here on occassion and I came out dead in the center. I remembered it, but didn't really understand exactly what it meant. I started following, developing more opinions and ran across the test again. Again I wound up very much in the center. Since then I have decided to place value on being a moderate and I strive to stay one.

Here's my list:
Environment = liberal
Death penalty = conservative
Immigration = more conservative than liberal
Iraq = back and forth. For the surge from the beginning though.
Unions = conservative
Gay marriage = conservative
Other gay rights = liberal
Abortion = conflicted / its complicated
Secular government = liberal
Guns - in the middle, lean liberal
Free speech - it is somewhat too free
Birth control - more liberal than conservative

Anyway, that's off the top of my head.


Gravatar "Unions" means labor unions


Gravatar Anno Domini, I remember it well.

I saw Brian a couple of months ago he is doing quite well.


Gravatar For the record Scott H, Scott F does think he is a moderate.


Gravatar funny. Scott H calls fred "stupid" if fred thinks Scott H is a Dem. then graces all of us with the brilliant line of "I don't know that 2000 (pres. election) qualifies."
What a complete moron.

Who the hell are are all those people with evidence to the contrary, Mr. Even Keel?

Denial ain't just a river in Africa.
Your slip is showing.


Gravatar All right everybody calm down.

I thank Scott for showing his positions on those issues. Lord knows with being anti-union, against gay marraige and for the seath penalty he would never be invited to speak at a Democratic party event.

Do us a favor though Scott...

Run over to Whallah and tell us the last time they wrote anything critical of a Democrat was (Joe Lieberman doesn't count), ditto with Feldstein's site. If you find anything it will be that they are not liberal enough.

The answer will be never.

If you have issue you should have issue with no account attack sites like One Wisconsin Now. That is the one trying to make a big deal out of a $500 donation to the head of the Assembly Republican Education Committee while ignoring the $142,575 his Democratic Counterpart got in the Senate.

It is those kinds of Partisan hacks that are making things as bad as they are.

When you look at it to scale, it ain't even close.


Gravatar funny. Scott H calls fred "stupid" if fred thinks Scott H is a Dem. then graces all of us with the brilliant line of "I don't know that 2000 (pres. election) qualifies."
What a complete moron.


Dang. I had hoped you and your pointless attacks had stopped showing up here.

Anyway, if you think the 2000 election qualified as Bush "kicking ass", fine. I just think it was a bit too close to be called that.


Gravatar Fred, I don't pretend or believe that other sites aren't just as (or more) tainted in objectivity. I don't frequent those sites though and some are more open about their one-sidedness.


Gravatar So its not a good win unless YOU say its a good win, then?


Gravatar Well scott I guess you will believe what you will believe.

Go on and continue ignoring all those stories where I am critical of Republicans and their policies and just remember those that fit your template.

If you'd like I could provide you with a list of those sites that may help in making my point.


Gravatar Huh? Browser refresh comments!


Gravatar So its not a good win unless YOU say its a good win, then?
still Unreal... | Homepage | 01.22.08 - 9:18 am | #


Huh? You are pointless.

Fred, "all those stories"? I don't ignore them, I consider the vast majority. That you can sometimes be critical of obvious flaws, most notably when they deviate from conservative principles, doesn't mean you aren't strongly biased and unobjective.


Gravatar For the record Scott H, Scott F does think he is a moderate.
Fred | Homepage | 01.21.08 - 4:00 pm | #


Really? You're full of BS on this one too Fred.

http://www.scottfeldstein.net/ bl...p=1895#comments

"Anyway, random question. Do you consider yourself a moderate or a liberal? If you wonder why I’m asking, you can take a peak at Real Debate (Gore bumper sticker post).

Thanks."

Left by Scott H on January 22nd, 2008

...

"But to answer your question, I’m a liberal. But I like to think I’m not a knee-jerk one. That is to say, I don’t always take the liberal position on every issue."

Left by scott on January 22nd, 2008


Gravatar Scott F said here he was moderate, if he is now admitting the truth then that is a good thing.

For the record Scott H, I never claimed to not be biased. I am objective though, I call it as I see it.


Gravatar For the record Scott H, I never claimed to not be biased. I am objective though, I call it as I see it.
Fred | Homepage | 01.22.08 - 5:50 pm | #


I'll settle for that.




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