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Hello there!

I came across your blog here in reference to the SaTan story in Whitehorse.

We had heard here in Sweden, that there was some amount of criticism levelled at Brian Salmi, the writer and gonzo journalist, and we came to seek it out.

Funny that most such criticisms come from your type, seemingly bright and intelligent, but unfortunately religious!

You are free to believe what you will, but we had come looking for some amount of credible discourse or critique, but instead find someone who identifies strongly in the illusion of religion, an age old medium used to control people's thoughts and freewill.

A shame actually, will return to read a bit more here as, religious fallacies and idioacy aside, there seems to be alot of interesting information about the area.

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We had heard here in Sweden, that there was some amount of criticism levelled at Brian Salmi, the writer and gonzo journalist, and we came to seek it out.

Welcome! It's interesting that you'd heard of Mr. Salmi there.

I've asked Brian Salmi to defend himself from my criticism of him--he was upset, it seems, by it--but he hasn't responded yet. Perhaps he will, and then you can hear his side of the story.

....we had come looking for some amount of credible discourse or critique, but instead find someone who identifies strongly in the illusion of religion....

So, since I believe something is real that you have decided is only an illusion, you think my discourse is not credible, right?

On what basis are you the arbitrator of what is credible discourse? If it seems shares your opinion of religion, then their discourse if credible, but if they don't, then their discourse isn't credible? Do I smell a double standard, perhaps?

will return to read a bit more here as.....there seems to be alot of interesting information about the area.

By all means....


"So, since I believe something is real that you have decided is only an illusion, you think my discourse is not credible, right?"

In the context of GOD and the implications therin? Absolutely!

This GOD-thing, organised religion in all forms and manifestations is simply a historical attempt at mind control and the control of the masses through FEAR.

I say this:

Get GOD (this all knowing ALL powerful, OMNIiscent being who knows NO bounds and can perform all acts as he is GOD, on the PHONE to me. Now. I will call. He will be waiting for my call as he is all knowing.

Get me the number.

Had religion NOT been tolerated and exposed for the fraudulent mind control it has been and will always be from the beginning, whether pagan, hindu muslim or christian, we would all be better off.

In the name of intangible out-dated fear inducing ideas such horrific acts have been done big and small to easily outweigh any good derived thereof.

And its these fallacies that you condemn or judge others by, and it is through these religious morals that we still, after hundreds of years of social conditioning and enslavement, bear witness to the guilt, fear and tradgedy of the human condition.

Get god on the fone.

I will call, collect.

Shouldnt be out of his capacity one bit.

And the number is?


And I would like to add that, Brian GODzilla Salmi is one of the few people in the west actively excercising and using his democratic rights on a sometimes daily level.

His "antics" may seem a bit extreme at times, but they harm no-one, in fact, the charter challenges and the court cases are highlights to the injustices the average person faces on a daily basis.

If our democratic rights (which were fought for, not given to us by politicians) are not excercised and if a STRONG message is not sent out to those bent on power and controlling others, they will, as history has shown, become more and more tyrannical.

A modern example is what is unfolding south of your border.

Tho the appeal of religion to some ( a moral and social dictatorship) lays within the top down command and the submission to another person. In this case someone elses ideas.

democracy, freedom, use it or lose it.


Get GOD (this all knowing ALL powerful, OMNIiscent being who knows NO bounds and can perform all acts as he is GOD, on the PHONE to me. Now. I will call. He will be waiting for my call as he is all knowing.

Okay, pretend for one minute that there is an all-knowing, all powerful, omniscient creator God who rules the universe. Why would you expect him to reveal himself to you in the way you dictate to him? Why would you expect him to take orders from you?

In the name of intangible out-dated fear inducing ideas such horrific acts have been done big and small to easily outweigh any good derived thereof.

Many, many horrific acts have been done--big and small--by those who claim they are doing them in the name of God. But saying you are doing them in the name of God doesn't make it so. Just because there is a lot of false religion out there doesn't mean there is no true religion.

And its these fallacies that you condemn or judge others by, and it is through these religious morals that we still, after hundreds of years of social conditioning and enslavement, bear witness to the guilt, fear and tradgedy of the human condition.

Can you state this in another way? I'm not understanding what you're saying.


And I would like to add that, Brian GODzilla Salmi is one of the few people in the west actively excercising and using his democratic rights on a sometimes daily level.

Whoa bud! I exercise my democratic rights on a daily basis, and so do most of the other people I know. I may not be as visible as Brian Salmi, but I'm there exercising away--just not on center stage.

His "antics" may seem a bit extreme at times

Which is exactly what I said about him. No more, and no less. The point of both posts that I've written mentioning him is to show him as one of the colorful characters of this place.

but they harm no-one

And as long as they really harm no-one, I don't object to what he's doing. I may think it's all a little silly....and not necessarily productive, but that's neither here nor there, is it?

If our democratic rights (which were fought for, not given to us by politicians) are not excercised and if a STRONG message is not sent out to those bent on power and controlling others, they will, as history has shown, become more and more tyrannical.

The strongest message we can give them is to vote them out.

A modern example is what is unfolding south of your border.

The Americans have the government the majority wants. You may not agree with it, but it's democracy at work.

Tho the appeal of religion to some ( a moral and social dictatorship) lays within the top down command and the submission to another person. In this case someone elses ideas.

Maybe to some. And some believe the God of the universe has revealed himself in his written record to us, and we ignore his message at our own personal peril.


Now, that wouldn't be the shirt with the words Stark Raving Mad on it, would it?

I looked for a shirt with David Brainerd, but didn't see one.


You got it, Kim.

I kind of like the flower child one, too....


thanks for the reply Rebecca!
You asked: Okay, pretend for one minute that there is an all-knowing, all powerful, omniscient creator God who rules the universe. Why would you expect him to reveal himself to you in the way you dictate to him? Why would you expect him to take orders from you?

**** My point is this, why would HE reveal himself in the grandious ways he did with stone tablets or however the story goes, 2000 plus years ago, and then just stop?

Stone tablets were the medium then, we have other media that he would surely know of well in advance as he is all knowing.

Why would GOD be so arrogant?
He is my creator, and far more advanced than (sic) puny little me, that to waste time getting upset over one of his quadrillions of sentient CREATIONS would belittle him.

The problem I often see, in such discourse with people hung up on the religion idea, is that they do not appreciate this ALL POWERFUL ALL KNOWING GOD for what he is.

Take some time and think about how it would be if you knew EVERYTHING and could create EVERYTHING.

PLAY with the idea for a few minutes.

Now multiply that by a BILLION in capacity (though this being a low number on the infinite god-scale) and you begin to see the concept and context. A bit.

So NOTHING is out of (sic) his capacity as well.

Not a thing.

This being the case, and knowing FULL well in advance the situation with NON believers and "silly" other religions etc... not to mention the CYNICISM and mistrust, that it would be easier than blinking an eye to do things to convince us, just as he did in ancient stone tablet days, that he is here.

Appear in the sky.

A phone number.


Easy for an all powerful being.

I mean, its not like he doesnt have the time or anything or that its out of his capacity.

He is all-powerful!

Capice?

And that I would need to somehow "PRESENT" myself or cower to him re: your dictate comment is also absurd.

Its based on a ego-centric insecure mentality that self grandious dictators and politicos and kings etc need to force others into in order to feel secure in the idea that they command over others. Like GOD.

So, I often see christians ANTHROPORMOPISIZING god, to act like one of his creations, like a human.

God(s) are, so the fairy-tale goes, waaay more advanced and intelligent.


"Many, many horrific acts have been done--big and small--by those who claim they are doing them in the name of God. But saying you are doing them in the name of God doesn't make it so. Just because there is a lot of false religion out there doesn't mean there is no true religion."

***Its my point, that in the name of religion or any other fanatical idea whether sports or nationalism, people do horrible things.

The fear of god, eternal DAMNATION should you do wrong, living just for dying, in HIS favour... this bizarre concept that promulagates suffering through a choice of different "religious" belief systems, all working together to mind control the beautiful creatures we are. Tragic it is, the FEAR behind it all.

The idea that people must SUBMIT to such hypocracy and be-little themselves HUMBLY to priests and so called gods.

Bad ideas..... ; )


deMOCKracy...

That we excercise them, thos RIGHTS we were GIVEN by others... is one thing, but to FIGHT for them, to stand up for justice and truth is a far more important thing.

My question is this:

WHEN does this so-called democracy happen for most people?

I am NOT speaking of the internet or so-called free speach, cause people do such things in china or russia or in other totalitarian states as well.

I mean DEMOCRACY and the freedom to organize and express ourselves how and when we , WE will. Our choices.

WHEN does it happen?

NOT at work, or at school.

In fact, most of the problems come from a lazy, cosuMORONIC populace dumbed down by media and culture specifically aimed at shallow consumerism.

Lazy, cant be asked to organize and make things better, even by their own standards.

Working hard. Late, Stress, cant pay bills, kids, family, inflation etc...
Choices we deserve, not DICTATES by a minority.

To vote THEM out, every 5 years or so, is NOT democracy for the 21st century.

We need ACTIVE engaged debate and a continual surveillance of all government to analyse efficiancy or lack thereof and to drastically minimise and get rid of paybakcs and corruption.

This requires media antics and or political engagement in all ways.

Spending time away from tv etc to explore ideas and concepts.

That the AMericans have the government the majority wants is also not true.

You had a link to voting irregularities last election in regards to voting machines, touch screen.

Look closer you will see the fraud.

This has been well documented, but NOT by the mainstream press or media on a national or international level.

The corporates won, or would have either way, and very nasty people, murderers, hell-bent on war for oil and THIER interests win.

Their is no choice.

Here is a christian site of interest, run by very proud conservative americans: www.prisonplanet.com I encourage you to look for the online free videos.

Also, look up Project for a new AMERICAN century highlighting thier global take-over interests, right out front in the open at : www.newamericancentury.org

I feel sorry for the americans, and we should take heed as to what these freaks are doing in the whitehouse and pentagon.

In the name of GOD of course! ; )

Our personal peril lays within the acceptance of such idioacy and brainwashing through various media into our brains.

To search out and and not just accept.

A majority vote of less than 50% of voter turn out means that 26% actually won in this case probably more around 20%

Bush (or better, THAT which he represents) did not WIN the election again.

It was stolen.

Again.


It's been too nice today to be indoors much, so I'll have to respond to this tomorrow.


Just a quick comment. (I hope to respond more fully later.) I mentioned above that Brian Salmi had commented on what I wrote about him. Apparently, according to an email I received from Mr. Salmi this morning, that comment was not written by him, but rather by someone else using his name and email address.

Just setting the record straight.


**** My point is this, why would HE reveal himself in the grandious ways he did with stone tablets or however the story goes, 2000 plus years ago, and then just stop?

Except he didn't. There's the continued revelation of creation--that a world that works so well to sustain our lives is there and continues to be there. It's there for everyone to see. Of course, it's presence can always be ignored, or the significance downplayed, but the revelation is there nonetheless.

And the written revelation hardly stopped at the law written in stone tablets, either.

If someone sees the creation and makes the choice to ignore the evidence it gives them of a purposeful and eternal creative force behind it, don't you think they'd ignore a phone call or writing in the sky as well? That they'd come up with some other explanation of those things too?

If you saw writing in the sky that said "Here I am; I am God," would you believe that it was God who had done it?

it would be easier than blinking an eye to do things to convince us, just as he did in ancient stone tablet days, that he is here.

Even the stone tablets didn't convince everyone. The people who received them were pretty quick to scurry off and worship things like golden calves anyway. Which shows us more about human beings than it does about God.

your dictate comment is also absurd.

Its based on a ego-centric insecure mentality that self grandious dictators and politicos and kings etc need to force others into in order to feel secure in the idea that they command over others.


No, it's based on the idea that if there is a God and he is all-wise, all-knowing, and you aren't, then you can hardly know better than he does what he should do.

It's based on the idea that if there is a God and his character is perfection, then he automatically--just by being who he is--is the standard by which everything else is measured. If he is all that, then automatically, what he does is the perfect way to do things. If he is all that, than saying that he ought to do things some other way is foolishness.

(So arrogant, BTW, is hardly a word that can be applied to him, as if one could exaggerate perfection. )

So, I often see christians ANTHROPORMOPISIZING god, to act like one of his creations, like a human.

You are absolutely right. Partly because just as it's impossible for us to grasp what infinity is as a quality without thinking of it as simply a sort of really big quantity, so it is with thinking about God. We have to think of him as something not quite what he is in order to think of him at all.

And partly because at some level we really would prefer it if he were a bit more like us. Complete otherness can be a terrifying thing.

God(s) are, so the fairy-tale goes, waaay more advanced and intelligent.

No, not way more advanced and intelligent than we are, but completely other than we are. Not more than us in the sense that he is like us, just better; but holding all his qualities in permanent unchanging perfection. Absoluteness. Infiniteness. Otherness.

The idea that people must SUBMIT to such hypocracy and be-little themselves HUMBLY to priests and so called gods.

Bad ideas..... ; )


If God doesn't exist, yes, then it's a bad idea.

But since he does, then submitting myself to him is the only possible rational response. Not belittling myself, but seeing myself as I am in relation to him.

It's empowering, really. It allows me to live each day with purpose. It gives meaning to my life, and meaning to the difficult things that have happened in my life.


Oddly enough it's theology in Zarathustran and Christian and other monotheisms (cult off shoots aside) that tought free will not and as a liberty given to god, and the single gift of he who created everything denying himself ultimate power over all. Even if things are wrong we always have the free will to choose right or wrong, despite it not being condoned, yet condemned. It's were philosophical or small l Libertarianism is said to be based.
Denying God is saying you are God, knowing the ultimate, such as cult leaders or tyrants like to view themselves.

Best

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"There should be no Government schools, it is a corruption of the constitution and establishes a statist parochial establishment." -- Gölök ZLF Buday
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Oh there is a difference between Liberty and Anarchy. Totalitarians and Unitalitarians have one or two differences, one prefers to do it alone the other in a group or one follows and the other rouses the rabbble.


Hi: Trying to locate Brian by email..how..old friends from Thunder Bay..


I have no idea. I heard he's no longer in the Yukon.


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