We need Clinton. Reno and the A.T.F. for this one. Oh yea, and a few bikers looking to redeem their bad reputation.
..always remember ya`ll there is no war on terror....just ask moron.orgy they will explain it all so well.f.....idiots ..as they take their last gasp...they`ll choke..its Bush`s fault...
...hey speaking of airstrikes...God I love those Eagles..
..need I say more..
Good links Rob, thanks.
Papa Ray
..Papa this warmed my heart...knowing some of our young still have the code...
..and how about this.. a grunt with wings...dang aq you sho nuff in trouble now..
Great links Rob. Here is one for you.
And to think we are just getting started in this field. The future will be something to see. Or maybe not, they may be invisible to radar and to the eye.
Death from the sky...I remember seeing a SF movie that had that theme.
It's not SF anymore, Toto.
Papa Ray
As a bonus, the Israelis proved they could penetrate the Syrian air defence system, which is stronger than the one protecting Iranian nuclear sites.
thanx Rob, Love those Israeli's
You know, Rb_NC once poopooed a suggestion I made that there should be more tales of daring-do in this war.
Maybe the Jews do not want to be assioated with 'an able war machine' and neither does the Jewish hollywood crowd put out any Jewish hero movies. Not my own obversation but it is interesting.
In my long experience, Jews keep a low profile but get things done.
Papa Ray
Muslims Against Sharia praise the courage of Lars Vilks, Ulf Johansson, Thorbjorn Larsson and the staff of Nerikes Allehanda and Dagens Nyheter and condemn threats issued by Abu Omar Al Baghdadi and the Islamic State of Iraq. Muslims Against Sharia will provide a payment of 100,000kr (about $15,000) for the information leading to capture or neutralization of Abu Omar Al Baghdadi.
Muslimer mot Sharia berömmer Lars Vilks, Ulf Johansson, Torbjörn Larsson och övriga anställda på Nerikes Allehanda och Dagens Nyheter för deras tapperhet och fördömer hotet från Abu Omar Al Baghdadi och Islamistiska Iraq. Muslimer mot Sharia betalar 100 000 SEK (ca 15 000$) för information som leder till gripande eller oskadligörande av Abu Omar Al Baghdadi.
Muslims Against Sharia
Defend Freedom of Speech - Support Sweden!
Well Chief....Good Luck with all that...... you realize of course you have a time limit to accomplish your goal of reforming the violence out of Islam.
The clock is ticking on your fellow adherents committing a sufficiently violent act that threatens the continuity of western civilization and requires us to respond with finality.... And I'm afraid there is no physical way you're going to be able to beat that deadline.
First off....Why is your home office in Nebraska? You should move it to Saudi Arabia, Tehran, or the Tribal agencies of Pakistan.....thats where the problems originate. How are you going to reform something you're afraid to even face down in person?
Secondly, even if you were to achieve a 99% success rate.....that wont be enough to keep you all from burning for the actions of that 1%, because that 1% will hide like cowards amongst the reformed moderates.
I don't trust any Muslim. I would however tolerate on my terms. Oh yea! My term are Constitutional and I have the right to watch you be pennieless, homeless and destitue when I refuse to interact with you on any level. I would never initiate anything physical against you unless you broke our laws. I would just watch you go wee weee wee all the way home.
My comment above is out of context unless I add; I will support good Muslims fighting for law and order within their own nations. I want no Islam in our nation. No good can ever come of it.
Redneck Texan, Nebraska is the best place for NGO headquarters, just as Delaware is the best place for corporate headquarters. There are standard packages that include registered agents and Nebraska has the lowest prices. As for moving to a country that has no freedom of the press and is ruled and/or populated by Islamic fundamentalists, you do that. We are trying to reform Islam in the West. While Western governments and corporations are pumping billions of dollars into Saudi Arabia and Iran, we stand no chance of reforming anything there.
While Western governments and corporations are pumping billions of dollars into Saudi Arabia and Iran, we stand no chance of reforming anything there.
Now where have I heard that argument before?
I see.... it's our fault they're unreformable.
Well, no RT, but he does have a point. We give terrorists money, ignore the fact that the Kingdom is the money man for over half of the radical, murdering bastard Muslims in this world and have enabled Iran to continue to be the money man for the other half of the radical, murdering bastard Muslims in this world.
They can't compete with the U.S. Government.
But don't get sidetracked on that. Moderate Muslims don't want to kill us infidels. Why? Because dead we can't pay tribute and taxes and bow and scrape to Islam.
Otherwise, they have no use for us and will relagate us to their terrorists cousins, who will do the neck cutting.
Papa Ray
As for moving to a country that has no freedom of the press and is ruled and/or populated by Islamic fundamentalists, you do that.
Oh my... Get off the fuckin' continent, bucko. We were here first. You wanna reform, you go reform in your freakin' backyard, got it?
(Rolls eyes, mumbles under breath, and reminds self to apply reform bandage to mouth at infrequent intervals).
No Shit Doc...... If these Moderate Muslims want to reform Islam they need to get themselves a booth at Mecca..... tell all the faithful passing by which parts of the Koran you want them to start ignoring..... see how they respond.
Or get together and show up at a radical Cleric's Friday sermon and denounce him in front of his followers.
What they are doing....and I guess they want a pat on the back for it..... is the equivalent of Martin Luther traveling to America to nail his 95 Theses on first tree he found.....knowing he was safely out of range of the Pope's wrath.
Dont be talking about reforming your religion when your afraid to walk amongst your fellow adherents.
I hear everyone talking about "Wanting Moderate Muslims to Stand Up and Renounce The Violence Committed In Allah's Name".....F_ck that, I dont want to hear them talk their religion of peace bullshit in the safety of the West, I want them to pick up an Ak-47 and go kill all the radicals that are making them look bad.
Clean up there own damn mess so we dont have to.....then sit here and claim the west's doing business with the leaders of oil rich Islamic nations is the reason moderates cant deal with the problems in those places is just a total bullshit cop out.
Or get together and show up at a radical Cleric's friday sermon and denounce him in front of his followers.
No shiite. I wonder how long this guy's head would remain attached to the rest of his sorry carcass.
There's so much chum in his communique, I'm havin' a tough time controlling myself.
(looks in tackle box for bare hooks and two pound test).
Bares repeating:
Islam is it's own worse enemy.
Papa Ray
What good would it do if we pick up AK-47s when radical Muslims have M-16s bought with petro-dollars? Islamic terrorism did not exist prior to petro-Islam. So, unless you stop financing Muslim terrorists, you are in no position to blame anyone. While most moderate Muslims do nothing, the West is financing both sides in the War on Terror. How stupid is that? Do I have to remind you that 15 out of 19 hijackers were Saudis? Do I have to remind you how many billions of dollars has the US gave to Saudi Arabia after 9/11? Don’t you think that some of those dollars went to terrorists? Saudis hold mortgages on 80%+ of American mosques. What do you think they preach in those mosques? The next generation of al-Qaeda is being raised on American soil because of your PC BS and you are blaming Muslims who are speaking out against terrorism? No wonder 30% of Americans do not know which year 9/11 happened.
PS
Maybe we are not doing enough, but at least we offered a counter-bounty on Swedish cartoons. Those of you, who blame ALL Muslims, have done nothing but bitched and moaned.
mohammedans against sharia - Note the slight alteration in your NIC. There is NO difference between a moderate and radical mohammedan - ZERO. You accept the word of a pedophile and murderer wholecloth. So what is contained within the binding of that piece of crap you call a 'holy' book - is fantasy - pulled out of mohammed's addled brain. There is no allah. If anyone whispered in mohammed's ear, it would have been a messenger from the pit of Hell.
You can believe that tripe from the koran, or... you can die and go to Hell without benefit of virgins or raisins or whatever it is that the lameass mohammed dreamed up while taking hits off his waterpipe. If you are truly 'moderate' and think that your message is somehow going to get to the radical side of the fence without dipping your toes in a radical environment, you are mistaken. My suggestion is that you start up your little mission in Malaysia, not the middle of Kansas. Or... how about Sweden? U.K.? I really think it ought to be Malaysia. I think your half-life would run to about 10 minutes - just long enough to let a radical hear your plan, and you lose your plan altogether - at the neck. I'd hang some links to pictures of Malaysians that have dared to be anything but mohammedans - you know - just breathing. They lost their heads in more ways than one.
bin laden & zawahiri want to call us 'Crusaders', fine. Bring it on. Bring your verbal sword if that's what you've a mind to use for a weapon, but I'm letting you know up front that it's like bringing a knife to a gunfight. Ol' mohammed showed up late to the game with all the wrong cards.
Don't bother wasting air on us rednecks, cuz we don't want to hear about it, we don't want to see it, and we most certainly don't want you mistreating our women the way you mistreat yours... MOF, if I saw you mistreating your woman, you'd discover what bein' slapped with a broadsword is like - you know - like the Crusaders carried? Get it? No sense in depriving you of your head, just a little fraternal correction between brothers oughtabe good enough.
What good would it do if we pick up AK-47s when radical Muslims have M-16s bought with petro-dollars? Islamic terrorism did not exist prior to petro-Islam.
How many petro-dollars have we spent in Jordan, Lebanon, Somalia, Palistine, Pakistan, and Indonesia?
Did Petro-dollars fuel Islam's violent spread across the middle East?
What exactly were we supposed to do.....not buy any oil?
How bout yourself...... does your personal vehicle run on terrorist financing petro?
..... Look man, I acknowledge that you are speaking out against the atrocities committed in the name of your religion, more so than I have probably ever seen a Muslim group do....... and that is really refreshing....... but what I'm telling you is, and I'm sure you realize, that some small group of sane Muslims in Nebraska is never going to be able to change the mindset of your fellow adherents in the middle east.....if they've even heard of you I'm sure they just chuckled and went back to the work of Jihad....... and when the day comes that radical Islamists leave us no other choice, we are going to be forced to kill Allah you, because you failed to EFFECTIVELY Police your own. The bad ones are going to lie and try to blend in with the good ones, based on the assumption we wont kill both of you to make sure we get the bad ones........ right now thats working out pretty good for the bad ones...... lucky for them the "Good Muslims" over there are no more willing to pick up an AK-47 and eliminate the radical element any more than you are........ right now we are more willing to absorb casualties than open fire on a crowd just to get the few bad ones in that crowd...... thats not always gonna be the case.
I'm sure there were lots of "Good Indians" back in the days when the "Bad Indians" were attacking our frontier towns......but when we went to the Indian villages the "Good Indians" failed to round up the bad ones and hand them over to us....... that required collective punishment......
I'm sorry man, I understand where your coming from..... I wish you had a chance to stop your fellow adherents before they force us to take draconian measures.....I really do.... but good intentions are one thing, results are another..... while your efforts are noble.....your pissin into an Islamist wind.
If you know where these Wahabi Mosques are in America....... you better do something that EFFECTIVELY keeps them from promoting violent Jihad in America...... cause you know, all Muslims, good or bad, are going to claim they are peace loving when we are forced to play Cowboys and Muslims. When our cities are radioactive after an Islamic dirty bomb goes off.....we're just not gonna be able to take any more chances.
Were gonna do what we have to do......Were gonna do what your fellow adherents forced us to do.....
What do you think they preach in those mosques? The next generation of al-Qaeda is being raised on American soil because of your PC BS and you are blaming Muslims who are speaking out against terrorism? No wonder 30% of Americans do not know which year 9/11 happened.
Seems like a pretty good reason to play Cowboys and Muslims and get it over with.
Cap'n DOC, you are just an ignorant bigot, so I won’t waste my time on you.
RT, You’ve got to be shitting me?!
Somalia? Instead of properly retaliating for the deaths of 18 American soldiers, America got out.
Palestine? PLO, a terrorist organization and its leader Yassir Arafat, a father of modern terrorism received billions of dollars from the West, including the US.
Pakistan? Who let them have nukes? Do you realize that Pakistan has more radical Muslims than any other Muslim country and it is one bullet away from becoming an Islamic theocracy?
Petro-dollars did not fuel violent spread of Islam through he Middle East. Petro-dollars accelerated violent spread of Islam through the globe. Petro-dollar fueled radical Islam claimed more territory in 30 years than Islam claimed in 1,300 years.
“What exactly were we supposed to do.....not buy any oil?” No, but you can make a point of not buying Middle Eastern oil. And there are quite a few ways to do that. There are American companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil. There are alternative fuels like ethanol and biodiesel. And if you have enough money, there are electric cars. All of this maybe an inconvenience, but it sure beats the hell out of giving money to the terrorists. Do you use Shell? Do you know that Shell just signed a multi-billion dollar contract with Iran? Watch this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ft341u2Fimw. I use only Hess and Sunoco. Most moderate Muslims keep their heads in their asses and waiting for all this shit to blow over. But isn’t it the same what most non-Muslims do? Why don’t you accept responsibility for financing and supporting radical Muslims and stop doing that? Then, we’ll take it from there.
Look man.....oil is a fungible commodity. If we dont buy Middle eastern oil, do you really think its gonna just set it Saudi storage tanks and NOT get sold to somebody, at full market value? What difference will it make in the big picture whether we pay the Saudis or China does? And to be honest I would just as soon pay the house of Saud as I had fuel Chavez's socialist revolution by buying Venezuelan oil, or fueling Russian weapons development by buying Russian oil.....bottom line is, it dont matter who buys Middle eastern Oil.....somebody is going to buy it.
But are you trying to suggest that all the hate spewing Islamic clerics around the world would stop sending out Jihadis to do Allah's will if the world stopped buying Middle eastern oil?.... get a clue man.... Islam thrives in poverty, and as much as I would personally like to see the Arab / Persian world mired in abject poverty forever..... taking away the regions only exportable commodity would only increase the Islamic Cleric's hold over their weak minds...... And hey, if its as simple as just taking oil revenues out of their hands, lets just take their oil fields away from them or blow them up.
Clinton withdrew from Somalia because the only way we were going to accomplish our humanitarian mission was kill over half the Somalians.
...and Yeah, he tried paying off Fatah, but it didn't work. On the same token we also paid off Israel and Egypt and you dont see them blowing our shit up. If the stinkin Palestinians and the Muslim world hates us, and attacks us for supporting Israel, how come Israel is not attacking us for supporting its enemies....how come the Greeks ain't attacking us for supporting the Turks?....... Its only in the Islamic mind that violence is warranted in such situations.
Why are Muslims attacking Hindus in India, why are Muslims killing innocent non-Muslims in Kashmir, Thailand, Chechnya, Lebanon, Nigeria, Horn of Africa, Sudan, etc? Everywhere the Islamic world comes into physical contact with an adjacent culture there is violence.....what do you make of that fact? Is it always the adjacent culture's fault?
Face it dude, you're never going to reform Islam....it is what it is, a religion based on violent Arab cultural values. The Koran is a blueprint for justifying global conquest through the use of violence.... you cant compromise with it.....its gotta be destroyed.
.....and what pisses me off, is that we wont directly target the source of the violence, the Islamic Clergy. As it stands right now hate spewing, violence promoting Islamic Clerics get to provoke terrorism from the safety of their Mosques. There's currently no incentive for them to stop.......somebody needs to go into their Mosques and kill them.....that burden should fall on the "Good Muslims", who should realize that if they dont get their radicals under control, THEY are going to have to burn for it in the long run.
.....Thats You.....and your fellow adherents. If a non-muslim does your dirty work its Front Page news forever....but if angry mobs of sane Muslims do it, for some reason, its OK......I wont hold my breath waiting for internal reform though.
And yes, thanks for pointing out that Pakistan is one bullet away from being a Nuclear Armed, Terror Exporting Theocracy....... That, along with your twelver cousins in Iran, are the ticking Clocks I'm talking about. Thats what you're in a race against to reform the violence out of Islam. Western Civilization has tolerated Violent Islam for centuries, because before now, they were ultimately harmless. But with advances in transportation and Weapons of Mass Destruction the entire game has changed. We've never had a reason or need to exterminate a billion people on the other side of the planet until now. Other, more advanced Cultures have possessed the nuclear flame for over half a century now.... but those cultures were sane...... they were not willing to strap bombs on their children just to kill a few non-belivers.....your fellow adherents are a different animal...... The Koran doesn't cover the concept of "deterrent". They will feel its their religious duty to use them as soon as possible on Israel and the other infidels in their range. They're playing with a powerful tool that they could never have devised without stealing the technology......its like putting a pistol in a monkey's hand. They are going to eventually commit an act in Allah's name that will leave the non-Islamic world no other choice but commit a genocide on a scale the world has never seen...... for our survival.
And you know Western rules of engagement today leave us at a tactical disadvantage against an enemy who doesn't have to answer to anyone for their acts of indiscriminate violence......as soon as their capabilities match ours, our rules of engagement will match theirs......and buddy, you dont want to know what kind of atrocities the West is capable of when we set our minds to it, and have no other choice.
" But isn’t it the same what most non-Muslims do? "Your 100 percent right. That is what 80 or maybe even 90 percent of Americans and other nationalities have been doing and plan on continuing to do.
There is real pressure from various lefty groups to stop any kind of real progress in energy re-direction.
Not true you say? You mean you really believe that the folks that want you to change the type light bulbs you use, and want to protect them tree frogs and want to not cut down them trees....are not standing in the way of America getting freedom from the monster of Petroleum?
Well, yea they are.
They don't want drilling, or even exploration of our land or oceans to find and take out our own oil. They don't want the power of the Atom anywhere in America, they don't want the wind farms, nor the thermal plants nor not even the new coal plants that promise to cut emissions.
I'm not talking about your average liberal (or your neocons) who thinks electric cars would be great. I'm talking about the left, the liberal, progressive political groups in America. The one's with the clout to influence the Senate and the House.
The rank and file idiots that call themselves green, don't even know that the liberal socialists who pressure our congress and our corporations don't want to really do anything to get out from under the thumb of imported oil.
Why? Many reasons, but the main one is the ignorant mindset they have about the environment. Which is about 75 percent complete nonsense.
Another is that they can't be inconvenienced nor annoyed by the plants and other facilities that it would take to accomplish American independence in energy.
But the main one is the one that drives almost all activity in this Nation.
MONEY
Now, since you seem to be right on, on many subjects, and know your history. I'm inclined to think that you are not only educated but have an idea of the mistakes that previous administrations and the Idiot American State Dept have made.
I certainly hope that we can stop making such mistakes in the future, but with the flood of liberal socialists coming out of our universities, I'm not so sure we will be able to.
But when it comes to your take on Islam, your showing your ass.(even if you are a Muslim) You don't have to convince us that Islam is the enemy, we know that and we also know of the millions of Muslims that would like to separate your head from your shoulders if you try and tell them that Islam is different than they think it is.
Sure they are the uneducated, ignorant masses who only know about Islam from what their Mullahs and their betters tell them every day. Most can't even read or write. Most can't watch TV or listen to radio that is not along the line of more hate, more propaganda against the west and anyone not of their beliefs.
I wish you and those who are like you could raise an army and go either teach them right from wrong or kill their asses. But you and I know you will never be able to do that.
So..it boils down to this. Islam is its own worse enemy and the west will have to do the killing for you, because we don't think we could teach them a damn thing.
But we can hurry them on to their virgins.
But if you think that after they are taken care of, you moderate westernized Muslims can take over our Nation from within....
Forget about it, it will never happen.
Papa Ray
Hey 'MAS' guy:
The 'reform' for Islam or Muslims, have to come from within Islam and Muslims, living in nations which are Islamic and full of Muslims.
The religion is 'deformed' so it needs reform!
But the so-called 'moderates' have to act within their own territory.. Not in the West, and certainly not in the U.S.
Why are the 'moderates' so afraid to speak up in their own countries. Obviously we all know the answer. But if the 'radicals' are willing to die for their suicidal tendencies why are the so-called 'good' Muslims not willing to die for the good of the whole.
This is not a West problem. This is a Muslim problem. And until and unless Islam is saved from the Muslims, your 'reform' will only piss more people off.
I say you stick to previewing upcoming movies, or betting on the baseball playoffs, or even watching some good football this weekend instead.
Only then you will do your religion a favor. Don't be so involved with the religion. Live your life, choose a hobby, leave the religion to those who 'practice' it. God knows they need more practice. Be an example in your community. let people look up to you. And let your religion become secondary. Only then will you succeed in your attempts to prove you're no threat. But you will always be treated as a threat by your own kind.
Be well. And relax a little!
Papa Ray: But if you think that after they are taken care of, you moderate westernized Muslims can take over our Nation from within....
Forget about it, it will never happen.
I agree with you!
I think the modernized westernized Muslims should realize they are Americans who happen to be Muslim rather than Muslims who happen to be American.
I don't think religion and politic should not mix. And I definitely am against 'organized' religion. I also think religion should be about the remembrance of God, and not of running a nation, and a way of life.
That's where 'reform' needs to take place.
However, any Muslim will tell you: It's a major sin to reform Islam.
They just are too blind to see that Islam is already 'deformed.'
Religion should not rule life (period).
I don't think religion and politic should not mix.
I am such an idiot for not reviewing my comment(s).
Of course I didn't mean that as a double-negative:
Religion and Politics do NOT mix well. And the rule of the land is the rule of law. People are free to practice what they believe so long as it doesn't interfere and contradict with this reality. Any attempt(s) to change it by taking advantage of the democratic loophole is a sneaky way to do dishonor (and treason) at a minimum to the hand that feeds you at best, and an ignorant and un-Godly, unholy, as well as cowardly and dastardly at worst.
you are just an ignorant bigot, so I won’t waste my time on you..
Shiite, I love it when I get a bite! Hooked up just fine on my rusty hook, too.
Hang on there for a second whilst I rip it out of your lips...
Now then. You were saying? I'm a bigot? I give you advice about where you should be pulling your wagon for maximum effect and for that you call me a bigot?
God, how I love to shred lips:
Why don’t you accept responsibility for financing and supporting radical Muslims and stop doing that?
Why don't you tell your sick bastard brothers in the faith to quit killing us? We've got better things to do with our time than save your worthless butts from your own kind! You want to reform the radicals?
Where.Is.Your.Head?
You're talkin' to corn stalks in the middle of Nebraska when you ought to be rappin' your sick bastard brothers upside the head!
Don't blame us for your twisted evil religion, and certainly don't come over here using the ol' Bait and Switch Game. What do you drive BTW? A Lemon? Or are you just another sleezy Used Car Salesman trying to get rid of the Lemon you're stuck with?
/note to self: (1) BUY MORE AMMO. (2)BUY MORE TREBLE HOOKS.
RT I don't know what it is about these AssHats, but I'm thinkin' you must be putting out Stink Bait or something...
RT, “oil is a fungible commodity, if we do not buy it, somebody else will”
1. In theory, it sounds like a valid argument, but history proves it is not.
A. Oil embargo of ’73. Middle East produces one-third on world’s oil. How come the other two thirds did not fill the void?
B. If oil was truly fungible, would Chavez be selling it to the US? 11% of oil used in the US comes from Venezuela.
2. Economists predict that if the US cuts its oil consumption by 10%, world oil prices will be cut in half.
3. ANWR can produce the same amount of oil as US exports from Saudi Arabia.
“Islam thrives on poverty” - your ignorance is astounding. International terrorism is extremely expensive. I am not talking about some Palestinian inserting a stick of dynamite and blowing up Israeli checkpoint. I’m talking about organized sleeper cells in the West. They cost millions. Any formidable terrorism expert will tell you: poverty and terrorism do not correlate. For example, most 9/11 hijackers were from upper-middle class families.
Clinton withdrew from Somalia because he was a chicken shit. For the same reason, he did not take out bin Laden on multiple occasions.
Why would Israel or Greece attack the US? That is absurd. I am not arguing that Muslims are prone to violence on religious basis. But this is exactly what we are trying to change. Maybe YOU should read our website before to tell ME about Islam and violence.
“and what pisses me off, is that we wont directly target the source of the violence, the Islamic Clergy.” Well, that makes two of us. The difference between us though is that we are trying to expose them while you are giving them financial and political support.
“needs to go into their Mosques and kill them.....that burden should fall on the "Good Muslims"” Some American Muslim clergy would be a good start. However if WE do that, YOU will put us in YOUR jails. You seem to love radical Muslims. Just look at recent examples: Islamist parade on NYC, two days before 9/11. How many protesters show up? Ahmadinejad speaking at Columbia University. Why is he allowed there?
Yes, we are in a race with time to save civilization, not just Western civilization. That’s why we expect the West to stop financing both sides in the War on Terror. Is that so much to ask?
MAS:
Yes, we are in a race with time to save civilization, not just Western civilization.
Here you go again!
Worry about saving yourself first. And the rest will take care of yourself. What kind of credibility do you have to come in here and preach that shit!
Why don't you go on Muslim sites and post those comments first. Try to convince your own kind before you come in here and give us a lesson in civility. And get the 'moderate' Muslims who are afraid to speak up and are overcome by the loudmouth radicals to get their own heads out of their asses.
And I say that as a 'Muslim.'
So early in the AM, so many BottomFeeders, so little time...
mohammedansAS -
“Islam thrives on poverty” - your ignorance is astounding.
Heh. And your Ass is hangin' out, and the reason you are blind is that your head is in it.
I see that you failed reading comprehension as well. My suggestion was that you get out of the Nebraska Corn Field you're standing in, and take your mission to Malaysia. I see that that motion has been seconded and voted on.
Bye-bye~~~
RT, some Saturday morning reading..
Annotating and updating Den Beste
Al-qaidas war for oil
Good reads, CM.
Yes, thanks CM. I had read Ben's piece some time ago, Tigerhawks comments are a welcome addition.
From Ben's piece:
The war, therefore, is against the ideological insurgency within Islam that pursues these objectives, and anybody who gives it aid, shelter or comfort.
This should read: ideological/political insurgency
Do you think he is including the Kingdom, which gives mainly aid in the form of money but other conforts also?
From the Middle Ground:
Deny the enemy secure, uncontested territory...
Deny the enemy resources in any area...
Continue to close their financial capabilities...
COIN mandates those conditions. Without them, such as was/is happening in Iraq's Capitol will continue.
But to deny them, the local population has to want to deny the "Insurgents"
I prefer the term "Murdering Bastards."
And there is the rub. Most do, but as long as some don't, aQ will always have a home in that city.
Then something not mentioned in either piece, which plays a big part in the Middle East.
Corruption. Corruption has always been a way of and a part of life there. Until that is changed, any progress is going to hampered greatly.
Papa Ray
as soon as their capabilities match ours, our rules of engagement will match theirs......and buddy, you dont want to know what kind of atrocities the West is capable of when we set our minds to it,
Nice touch, dw. Thank you for reminding the world that Muslims do not hold a monopoly on being "Murdering Bastards".
mohammedans Against Sharia - It's refreshing to see that we're not the only ones with a lock on smarmy, but at least we can demonstrate good reading comprehension.
How's that 12th Imam workin' out for ya?
MAS Sorry you missed my point quoting quoting RT. Everyone here understands my point but to explain it to you would sound blasphemous I am sure. It's that cultural/spiritual differential that no fair and equatable perspective can even comprehend let alone resolve. Reminds me of the statue in 'Revelations'. That one with feet of Iron and Cay. and the emphasis being that the feet are what keep the mighty statue form collapsing. Maybe man's history is spiritually regressing backwards. Not hard to see if you overlook the technology.
Sorry for being so dim, but I still fail to understand why “you dont want to know what kind of atrocities the West is capable of when we set our minds to it” is something to brag about. But taking into consideration that all non-Westerners come from backwards backgrounds, I’m sure you can enlighten me with your wisdom.
why you dont want to know what kind of atrocities the West is capable of when we set our minds to it
Let him who has ears...
But taking into consideration that all non-Westerners come from backwards backgrounds, I’m sure you can enlighten me with your wisdom.
Let him who has ears...
That puts it mildly. But of course.
Oh - And lest you forget - How's that 12th Imam workin' out for ya?
Heh.
I hink I can simplify for MAS.
We are tolerant to a faut. When we are finally fed up and pushed to far we become single minded in a united effort to end a problem once and for all. Well, on second thought we will at least draw a line and kill your ass if you cross it.
You are tolerant to a fault? Aren't you confusing tolerance with stupidity? Is letting Ahmadinejad speak at Columbia tolerance? No, it is providing aid and comfort to the enemy. It is probably criminal, and it is definitely stupid. Tolerance has nothing to do with that. Who spoke out against that? Moderate Muslims http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...condemn-
in.html. Did you speak out against it or were you sitting on your ass picking your nose? Is installing religious ritual devices http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...-
footbaths.html on public property tolerance? No, it is a violation of the Establishment Clause (separation of Church and State) and a concession to radical Islam. Did you speak out against that? But we did, because we know who the enemy is. Like it's not difficult enough that we have to fight Islamofascists, we also have to explain ourselves to dimwits like you. Why don't you stick you PC-BS tolerance (which is in fact stupidity) and bigotry up your ass and start using your head?
Well... I see we have another GoatButt-Friendly post from mohammedans Against Sharia, our Beacons of the Bizarre from the Cornfields of Nebraska.
Their theme is "We've never met an ear of Corn we couldn't husk".
My first suggestion was Malaysia. I now rescind that recommendation and suggest Iran. They'll be Craning your necks in no time a-tall.
MAS. My use of the word 'we' represents the individual conservatives and patriots within our nation. I was not necessarily referring to the Govedrnment of which is driven by political agenda.
Please consider this;
There was time when Christianity was the driving spiritual; force of this nation. To hear the left tell it they were a powerful and inclusive. If so how did they so easily lose that power overnight? Tolerance and secular progressiveness infiltrating our learning institutions.
The Liberal is not tolerant to a fault. He is tolerant for power and must destroy our social/political/spititual norms.
Surely you understand the consequence of dsestroying norms overnight. It is not easy unless you controll what the children are taught. And the ensueing social vacume is best filled quickly by bribery abd promises lest some other radical force see an opportunity.
You face that same challenge with your own goal of a 'moderate Islam'. Eliminate the radical clerics and pornography, the opposite extreme might take root unless a moderate view can immediately take the place of radical Islam.
My perspective may not be right on target but it is pointing in the right direction.
dw, I think we are making some progress. At least we agree on something: every religion/society has its degenerates. We have Ayatollah Komeinis who advise to have sex with babies and animals is OK; you have Cap’n DOCs who happily follow that advice. My point is that today we have a common enemy: Islamofascism. We cannot fight this alone; we need your help. And what you do (conservatives and liberals alike) is supporting Islamofascist politically and financially. Just because Saudi royal family do not shoot at Westerners themselves, it doesn’t make them your friends, but you sell $20 billion worth of arms to them. Just because Iranian mullahs do not themselves blow up Americans and Brits in Iraq, it doesn’t make them your friends, but you make $10 billion dollar contracts with them. All we want is for this support to stop. And all this “it’s the liberals” BS does not stand up to the facts. It may have been liberals who invited Ahmadinejad to Columbia or CAIR to congress, but it wasn’t liberals who were walking around with Saudi King Abdullah holding hands or taking pictures with Sami al-Arian.
I’m not trying to say it is all your fault. Of course we are responsible for most of what’s going on. But just as Iranian revolution would not have happened if Carter were not the president at the time, you are partially complicit in the shitstorm rising in the Middle East. Please, stop helping radicals, stop promoting them!
PS
If you feel compelled to abbreviate, please use “MASH”. “MAS”, is a commonly known acronym for Muslim American Society, an offspring of Muslim Brotherhood.
MAS:
You keep referring to us as "you," and until you think like you're part of us and refer to (and with) us as "us" and "we," you need to go back to where you came from!
Go away with your acronyms. Do you even know what MASH is?
metin, why the desire for inclusion all of a sudden? If you read the thread, posters made it clear to me from the beginning that I am not a part of you, that world is divided on people (Westerners) and scum (Muslims). As for MASH, it is rather presumptuous of you to assume that anyone knows less than you do. As I stated before, MAS (Muslim American Society) is a terrorist front and we don't want to be confused with it. If there were a group called North American Zinc Institute, they probably would not want to be abbreviated either.
MASH (thanx for letting us know what MAS represent and I will give you the benufit of doubt that you are what you say you are in this thread but I find it very interesting that you choose this conservative patriotic site to express your views. You's have better luck at support on any socialist/liberal site.)
Gettin involved here on a level I maybe should avoid but. I'd like to make two points.
First. Without oil our soceity would collapse and we would become more backwards and degenerate than some of the Mideast or Africa. It makes no difference as to 'whom' or 'why' we are and remain dependent upon oil, or weather that is good or evil, or weather or not we buy Middeastern oil or Mexican or South American as we must help preserve the flow lest Europe collapse and Europe is perfectly capable of becomming poster child for degeneracy in a crisis. (in my opinion) Also note the stability we provide to the world regardless of any oinions of our interests. Imagime the U.S. disappearing form the world scene and the vacume it would leave.
Second. Doc is one of our many unsung hero's. He was a medical corpsman during the Viet Nam war and he know's more than we about compassion in the middle of chaos and war and I find my self in agreement with him most often. If you can utterly dismiss him with conrempt I question your real interests.
With you MASH, I see not a language barrier, ... but a cultural use of language' barrier if you see my point. We use verbal slang and analogy to abreviate rhetoric lest we would never get done expressing a point or reading one. If you could understand it you would recogonize our honesty weather or not you agreed. The guys here may not agree with my perspective but I see them as emotionally and spiritually honest. No one here is putting of a false cloak of compassion and acceptence.
I percieve by your choice of words, as meten points out, that your are not 'of us' nor think in terms of 'assimilation'. You are persuing you own cultural/spiritul beleifs here in my country. If you remain here in 'our' country 'we' will have to concede more of our culture and beleifs to accomidate you as you grow. You may not put it in the same terms I do, but you would feel the same were your local mosque to somehow attract 'infidels' into the Muslim congregation and your sense of tolerance demanded that you allow them to remain and pervert your beleifs. If you see my point.
The tower of Babel was destroyed by God for our own good. The Chineese, Arabs, Blacks etc. having their own nations is right and good. Multi culturalism is insane and no example of it in history proves it to be progressive nor stable. On the contrary. Diversity without respected borders or social perameters is the root of all conflicts and easy for any tyrant or hatemonger to manipulte for power.
MASH are religeous refugee's in our nation, and any plans of MASH to stay here are based upon first, 'our tolerance of other faiths, and second their potential to establish a Muslim community that will grow and spread and sooner or later come to fighting with our culture and beleifs. You know very well you will not reform Muslims in the Middle East. I believe that to be your cover story and front for setting an Islamic shop here in America and the West.
Thank you, dw. You did good. I saw the 'clash' of Buddhism and Catholicism (if you want to call living side by side a clash, which it wasn't) whilst on my little vacation. The clash came about because of the God-less Communists and their minions. Never have I seen such disregard for humanity - never, until now...
I call these people mohammedans because that is exactly who and what they are. They are followers of a man no greater or lesser than you or I. I'm also not eliminating other folks who post here who have a legitimate voice. I do not tolerate lies and deceit or moral equivalence. Either a man is true to himself or he is not.
These individuals may or may not have a worthy goal in mind, but they are preaching to the wrong people. I've explained quite succinctly where they need to trot their cart, but they tend to be comfortable in the Cornfield - and frankly, I'd stay in the cornfield as well if I were playin' their game. Lot's of ears out there not capable of hearing a damnedable word they're sayin'.
Metin & Mash......this might be a first for the little Redneck blog......2 Muslims arguing about how fucked up Islam is.
And you all know what a big fan of Muslim on Muslim conflict I am.
dw,
“You's have better luck at support on any socialist/liberal site”
You mean we have a better chance of support from people who invited Ahmadinejad (Columbia)? Or from people who think that Gilchrist is a bigger villain than Ahmadinejad (Daily Kos)? Or from people who think that Bush is a bigger villain than bin Laden (AP poll of American public found that 25% of Americans think that Bush is the biggest villain alive and I doubt that those 25% were conservatives)? So what exactly made you think that we will get more support on a liberal forum? Don’t get me wrong; both sides have their retards, i.e., Cap’n DOC.
“Without oil our soceity would collapse”
Yes, it would. However, I never advocated giving up oil. I advocated giving up Middle Eastern oil. Less than a quarter of oil used in the US comes from the Middle East. It could be easily replaced by more conservation, expanded use of alternative energy and additional domestic drilling. ANWR can provide as much oil as being imported from Saudi Arabia, America’s largest source of Middle Eastern oil. Also, take a look at the largest South American country, Brazil. They are energy independent and they don’t have huge oil reserves. Is Brazil more technologically advanced than the United States?
Cap’n DOC is (and I mean it as a description, not an insult) is a fucking scumbag. He hates Muslims just for being Muslim. “There is NO difference between a moderate and radical mohammedan - ZERO.” Every Muslim who hates Christians just for being Christian is a fucking scumbag. I believe that everyone in this forum would agree with that, even that retard. Therefore the opposite is also true, no matter whether he is a war hero or not. I know of a great father, who loved his children so much, he built them palaces. But he still was a fucking scumbag named Saddam Hussein. Anyone who would claim that bigotry could be justified is either a moron or a liar.
I do not disagree with general notions of this forum; I’m just trying to cure some ignorance. By blaming Muslims as a whole, you are trying to treat cancer with a hammer. This is intellectual laziness. You are too lazy to try to figure out which Muslims need to be neutralized, and all I’m trying to do is to educate you. And it’s not that difficult to learn the difference between someone who advocates elimination of Israel or replacing the Constitution with the Koran and someone who protests Ahmadinejad’s visit to Columbia.
“but you would feel the same were your local mosque to somehow attract 'infidels' into the Muslim congregation and your sense of tolerance demanded that you allow them to remain and pervert your beleifs. If you see my point.” I do see your point. However, if you bother to read our blog/site, you point has no merit in regards to us. We specifically call for separation of Church (in this case Mosque) and State, because religion is a personal matter and has no place in public life. You complaining about encroachment, but did you anything do about footpaths in Indianapolis airport? (http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2007/09/
indianapolis-footbaths.html). We did.
Have you considered that some Muslims do not want to establish “Muslim community” in the West for a simple reason that if they did wanted to live in “Muslim community”, they would have lived in a Muslim country? Assuming you are a Christian, do you run around sticking your Christianity into people’s faces? Probably not, because it is nobody’s business. If you are Jewish, do you make it a point to live in a Jewish community? Probably not either. I know I’m going on a limb here, but could it be possible that some Muslims would feel the same way?
As for us setting up and Islamic shop, that is the biggest display of ignorance on your part so far. CAIR, MPAC, WAMY, MAS, ISNA, ICNA, AMA. MSA (I could go on) ARE Islamic shops as you put it. Those Islamic terrorist fronts openly state that their goal is to convert the United States into the Islamic state. And morons, in American government nonetheless, are welcoming and legitimizing those groups. But when someone like MASH or AIFD comes along, whose goal to expose and fight those groups we are being blamed for what CAIR does. Are you really that dumb and blind?
RT,
What in the world made you think that Metin is a Muslim?
What makes you think he ain't? I bet he's as Muslim as you are.
I dont really have a horse in the religion race....I think that gives me a better, and somewhat unbiased, perspective to see that Islam is not like any other religion on the planet.
Violence is a core tenet of Islam.
I am sure you will point out that Islam is less mature than the others, and that other religions have used violence as a tool in their pasts.....but that dont change the fact that Islam is promoting global violence IN THE NUCLEAR AGE....and thats a BIG difference.
But you know, to be honest with you, as Islamophobic as I proudly am, I also realize that even if Islam never existed we would still be having problems with the inferior cultures of the middle east getting their hands on stolen western nuclear technology. And if you dont think they're inferior I would have to question YOUR objectivity.
Islam is, in my opinion, not so much responsible for the violence in the Middle East as it is a product of it. It just encompasses all the violent cultural tendencies of the Arab tribes that made it up for use as a tool to control conquered populations, like they saw Judaism and Christianity doing before. As far as those hate mongers in Pakistan go.... they had their Pashtunwali code before Islam found its way there.....it just reinforced their already violent cultural tendencies.
Even if you could reform Islam, here, you can never reform Middle Eastern Culture from Nebraska......unless thats where your ICBM silos are.
And that begs the question of WHY that region was at one point in time arguably the most advanced in the world, and then, for some reason, it stagnated relative to the west.....and I think you have to give Islam some credit for that stagnation relative to the Christian West.
As far as oil goes, despite your answer above, Oil IS a fungible commodity. If we stopped buying their oil tomorrow it would not have any effect on the Islamist's mission to spread Jihad.....it would just give the Chinese considerably more influence in the region. Oil is the lifeblood of the geo-economy, and the faster we use Middle Eastern Oil the better the chances are of THEM running out first. 
RT: Great answer to an irresponsible question. I don't make my 'religion' a preference, having not had that privilege. A practicing Muslim and a Muslim who practices are two different animals. I choose actions over words, whereas others speak with words but without a 'real' purpose.
But at the end, you simply can't judge a book by its cover. Unless the author is O.J. and the title of the book is, "If I was a Muslim . . ."
I am an American, a human being who happens to have Islam listed on his record, kind of like a felony conviction that stays with you forever. Doesn't make it a crime to carry that label, but does tell people who you are. Once a Muslim always a Muslim to some, and to others, a Muslim who makes the best of the situation, and tries to erase the 'stereotypical' misconceptions about the label. However, it's very difficult as I keep running into those who think they're doing Islam a favor by trying to take it over from the fundamentalists, instead of 'exterminating' the very roots of the problem that's eating at the core.
I don't live my life, nor would I want others to, with the principles of an 'organized' religion. The label just comes along for the ride. I am a spiritualist at heart and a Sufi by choice, transcending the religious affiliations of humanity.
But you call me a Liberal, and I'll ask for my money back!
I am in fact a 'true' conservative, but not anything like those masquerading around Washington, D.C. nowadays. And I don't like the idea of Nebraska (or any other State) being used as the base for Islamic therapy. That needs to take place within the confines of where the problem is. We don't need 'saving' here in the USA. The Middle East needs to be saved from itself.
Even the Myanmar monks have better self-control when it comes to rising to the occasion!!!
mASH You have been exceedingly offended by Doc. He is the humanitarian here and probably would not help us do the evil that needs to be done to win this war. He would however go into the thick of battle with his medical kit to save lives on the battlefield. Yours too if you were captured. He has said nothing here anyone here totally disagrees with yet he has managed to offend you above others and you can see we are acknowledging and agreeing with his comments. Your hatred of Doc, and in relation to what we are 'all' saying here, is irrational.
I want to respond to your last comment tomorrow as Doc's comments and your response to him are very enlightening and took up my time tonight. Hope you doan leave just yet.
RT,
Aside of you being a degenerate bigot, you have no idea what you are talking about. You may possess the most knowledge among all of your cousins, but half of the statements that you make here are completely baseless. What kind of moron would say “I think that gives me a better, and somewhat unbiased, perspective” and follow by “as Islamophobic as I proudly am” and “inferior culture”. Or maybe you’re just too dumb to understand the difference between culture and society. All Islamic nuclear technology came from Russia and China. If Western idiots weren’t sitting on their asses after the iron curtain came down, all Soviet nuclear physicists would be working in some labs in American universities instead of Iraq, Iran, Libya, Pakistan, Syria and god knows where else.
“Islam is, in my opinion, not so much responsible for the violence in the Middle East as it is a product of it.” This statement wouldn’t sound as idiotic if Israel did not exist. Oil being fungible is purely theoretical argument; in real world it does not hold water. If the oil were fungible, ’73 embargo would not have worked and Chavez would not be selling it to the US. But even if you were right, and the oil were fungible, doesn’t the fact that Saudi Arabia got the US by the balls bother you a little bit? I guess not, since bitching, moaning, and being a degenerate Islamophobe is much easier that actually doing something constructive. There is enough oil in the Middle East to last for generations. Keep pumping money there and 9/11 would look like a child’s play.
metin,
Anyone who is embarrassed of being a Muslim is a pathetic excuse of a Muslim.
dw,
Anyone who thinks that there is no difference between a moderate Muslim and a radical Muslim is a moron. It is just as idiotic as to claim that all Christians are out to bomb abortion clinics and all priests molest little boys.
MAS(H): I am embarrassed of being a Muslim because of the likes of you. It has nothing to do with being a Muslim. Big difference!!!
You fail to notice the point.
A proud black man would still be embarrassed of being a black man if one of his own kind is guilty by association to being on death row for a crime he did in fact commit. It doesn't make him less 'black.'
The pathetic thing is that you waste all your energies in here trying to prove how you are a better Muslim and want to save the Muslims from the Muslims!
By the way, RT is right when he says even if it weren't for Islam, Middle East would still be full of idiots. I am sure he didn't include Israel in that equation, as most of the 'perceived' inhabitants of Israel are imports from Europe. The Arabs make up the collective Middle East that RT is referring to. And based on the cultural and social makeup of the region (at least as far as we can remember in our lifetimes), it is not anything that any Muslim can be proud of. Yeah, we can sit here and talk about the good old days. But even in the good old days, it was the non-Arabs (like the Ottoman Turks) who made something out of nothing. Islam owes a lot more to Turks than Turks owe to Islam. And the same is true of Arabs. If it was up to Arabs alone, Islam would not even be here today. But it is still the Arabs who 'mis-interpret' the religion to its current 'perceived' state that no one is proud of. And speaking of Arabs, what have they done for me (us) lately? I am pretty sure we're not talking about the average 'Western' Muslim when we refer to the collective Islam and Muslims.
Am only saying I see no evidence of the Moderate Muslom. Your tone here has become extreme once you realized we don't agree with nor trust you. I bet when you get real angry you will bridge that gap between moderate and radical.
You even refferenced a worse attck than 9/11 and in the context of supporting your claim that RT is stupid. You subtully suport the radicals as they would punish the infidel that offended you with suspicion and disagreement.
You are tolerated. What the hell more could you expect from us, beleif and conversion. I am being very civil as opposed to what I really think, as are you.
I wish, honestly wish that there could be peace and respect between Muslim and Crhistian. Probably all here do. But their is that lil problem called 'the real world'. Besides, their can be no peace unless Allah wills it.
BTW I am not Christian, I cannot follow any beleif that is rooted in the necessity of man's suffering, oppresssion, or living in fear of a God over offences that harm no one. i will however bend my knee out of respect for Christians, but not their God.
metin,
“A proud black man would still be embarrassed of being a black man” – your IQ must be in single digits. If you’re so embarrassed of being Muslim what stops you from leaving Islam? You don’t leave in Saudi Arabia, nobody will cut your head off for leaving. Why don’t you just admit that you are as full of crap as I would be if I claimed to be a Martian? Majority of Israelis are Sephardim Jews who look like Arabs. Those backwards Arabs, who comprise about 1/3 of modern Muslims gave humanity, among other things, numbers that you are using. Otherwise you’d still be using roman numerals.
dw,
“Am only saying I see no evidence of the Moderate Muslom.” Then maybe you need to be explained what moderate Muslim is. A moderate Muslim is a person of Islamic faith who does not feel that non-Muslims are inferior, or enemies of Islam, or some other bullshit that is part of Islamic fundamentalist dogma. I don’t care that you do not agree with me (even though every argument I presented is based ob facts) or you don’t trust me (even though I didn’t say anything that is not true). When you display utter stupidity or bigotry and you don’t like when I call you on that, you can run crying to your mommy or you can look at things objectively. “You even refferenced a worse attck than 9/11 and in the context of supporting your claim that RT is stupid.” Apparently you have reading comprehension problems, so let me break it down for you. I called RT a degenerate Islamophobe, because any type of bigotry is a display of degeneracy. My reference to an attack that will be worse than 9/11 had nothing to do with RT’s degeneracy. “Keep pumping money there and 9/11 would look like a child’s play” means that at some point Iran (or somebody else) will obtain nuclear weapons (or some other WMD) and they will use it against the West. Any WMD attack would have far more that 3,000 casualties. So, who in their right mind, can blame moderate Muslims for an Iranian nuclear bomb when the West gives Iran money to make that bomb? You are being civil, but you are also being stupid. Instead of politely explaining to a moderate Muslim that there is no difference between radicals and moderates, you might want to consider impolitely protesting when radicals are given forums by American universities. But that may actually require getting off your ass, which would make it undue burden. I don’t really care what religion or non-religion you are. What bothers me is your stupidity or bigotry that does not let you see the difference between the radicals and the moderates.
Get your head out of being stuck in the past and show me what have you done for me lately?
You need to first concentrate on making yourself a better person and worthy of respect before you call others to your 'cause.'
Stop wasting my time. You are full of crap and a disgrace to the religion you are so proud to be a member of. You're not a Muslim. You're a disgrace!
Learn how to formulate your point better!
My advice to you is to look in the mirror and stop calling people bigots, imbeciles, and stupid. Maybe start by being civil in the face of discourse and a little butt-hurt. Toughen up and lighten up! What kind of a religion you belong to?
Well - I didn't get much further than this -
is a fucking scumbag.That's really special, mas.
I musta struck a nerve.
I rescind my suggestion that you move anywhere outside the U.S. Go for Dearborn, Michigan. Not that I'm wishing you upon those who choose to follow your faith (or no faith at all), but at least you'll be among your own kind.
I'll relate a little story: We live on a fairly quiet street with only four houses on each side in a block. There are no apartment buildings per se, but there are large houses which have been converted to one and two bedroom apartments within several blocks of our home.
We used to have visits from two young missionaries of a religious group, never the same, always dressed in white shirts and ties. I like visiting with these guys, who believe they are doin' the work of their father, however their faith lacks substance, and has no foundation. Their prophet claimed to have the same sort of revelation that yours did, by the way. It's almost scary how much these religions have in common.
The visits usually lasted about an hour, and they always left of their own accord. Months later, we would get another visit, but never the same two gentlemen. Then, they quit coming. We see them as they come and go on their 'visits' to neighbors and such, but they don't come to the door anymore.
They got the message.
You see sirs, they didn't know their faith. Not it's history and not it's theology. You sirs, may have them both, but probably spend a good deal of your time defending the indefensible. Matter of fact, I probably know your history and theology better than you do.
So, I continue to suggest that you walk the walk and talk the talk in Dearborn, since it seems to be a likely spot for a message that's gonna meet some human deaf ears.
Don't hassle me with your message. Don't call me a fuckin' scumbag, unless you'd like to come to my home and give your message to me. No need to carry any weapons - your loose tongue will do just find. I guarantee you'll leave speechless. Study up. You need it.
"But when someone like MASH or AIFD comes along, whose goal to expose and fight those groups we are being blamed for what CAIR does. Are you really that dumb and blind?"
I don't think I have problems with MAS(H) or AIFD as much as I have a problem with you! and your tactics?
I wonder if MAS(H) or AIFD would approve of you, or would they rather be embarrassed.
Get a job . . . then an education . . . after that get some therapy! and get a life!
metin,
“show me what have you done for me lately?” Why in the world do you think that I have to do anything for you? “You need to first concentrate on making yourself a better person” What puts you in the position to assume that anyone is not a better person than you are? “You are full of crap and a disgrace to the religion you are so proud to be a member of.” Only a moron would claim that someone is a disgrace based on the fact that he/she is proud of being who he/she is. “My advice to you is to look in the mirror and stop calling people bigots, imbeciles, and stupid.” Why? Bigot, a person who is intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or race. When someone claims that there is no difference between moderate and radical Muslims, meaning that all Muslims are bad, it is bigotry, therefore the person who makes the statement is a bigot. Stupid, characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless. A Muslim who is embarrassed of being Muslims while having an option to leave Islam, is stupid. It is an accurate description. So, since you ARE stupid, why do you get offended of being called stupid? It makes just as much sense as if I were to get offended if somebody said that I had two arms. “I don't think I have problems with MAS(H) or AIFD as much as I have a problem with you! and your tactics?” Oh, so calling you on your bullshit and exposing what an idiot (or fraud) you are is unacceptable tactic? Is there any other way to get to the truth except for exposing the lie by using valid arguments? Since when calling an idiot an idiot became unacceptable? I’ll make you a deal, you stop displaying your idiocy, I won’t call you an idiot.
Cap’n DOC,
Chances are I know more about Islam (or any other religion for that matter) than you ever will. You vast knowledge about Islam seems to be confined to violence and pedophilia, which we expressly reject. And in case this statement is too complicated for you, we do not deny it, we admit it, but reject as incompatible with modern norms of humanity. I am not making it up as I go along, everything is posted in our manifesto.
You seem to be to dense to understand why you deserve that description (fucking scumbag), let me try to explain it so even someone of your intellect can get it. Just answer me one question, would it be reasonable to call a Muslim, who claims that all Christians are bad, a fucking scumbag?
Muslims Against Sharia How will you reform Islam from here? When I see you suffering threat, imtimidation, kidnappings and beheadings, paying ransoms, suicide bombings and destruction of you places of worship, your site hacked by radicals, and you living in fear for your fmily members, I will know your are telling the truth and having AN IMPACT but!
We here will be the battleground fcr the new Islamic revolution? Our courts and prisons will prosecute your enemies for you when they are enraged to action that should be more extreme than we have seen as you threaten their very existence wheras we only threaten their power? Our soceity will be viewed with even more hatred if we become your base of operations. In the fanatic's eyes we already support everything they hate and want dead or minimized. Now we will give refugee and protection to a group that wishes the very destruction of fundemental Islam?
You mentioned removing certain passages from the Quran. Christians did not remove rhetoric from the Old Testement. That paves the way for accusations and worse hatred. They had a prophet known as Jesus revolutionize their beleifs and later an unbeliebably bloody and horrible 'Reformation period' in response to the corruption and victimization of everyone.
Only a prophet will reform your faith and followed with much chaos and bloodshed.
It will take physical action to reform Islam! Are you working towards that end or just want to set up an example of reformed Islam here in the U.S. and Europe and from there? What? Grow and spread in America and Europe.
Now matter how good I view your goals, I see just another threat to all I believe and agree with. Multi culturalism and diversity will never unite us, on the contrary, multiculturalims and diversity are the very cause of our division and need for reunification.
If you can dismiss the above as 'ignorance and bigotry' I have nothing else to say to you, ever. I would even want you booted from or shorres as a potential threat for that attitude.
You came to this site on your own terms. Your arguements purely reflect your own interests and your rhetoric is rooted in and mirrors the Liberal mantra.
Are you sure you you understand that you are living within a host nation that generously tolerates your views and beleifs? Does that translate into a license to change us to your liking, make us your base of operations for reforming what you hate? How is it a 'given' that we are obligated to support and protect you. Could it be our fear of another 9/11 you so readily remind us of. You demand and expect that our fear obligates us to your cause?
Bullshit Muslims Against Sharia . I can't articulate it but you are not honest and are hiding much of wjat you really want and are working for.
Hey mash potato,
I'll make you a deal!
You continue making a mockery of yourself, and i promise i won't have to tell anyone how pathetic you are.
do you have a girlfriend? and how's your fasting going? now that you've regurgitated the same bullcrap over and over again...
"Chances are I know more about Islam (or any other religion for that matter) than you ever will."
"You seem to be to(o) dense to understand why you deserve that description (fucking scumbag)"
Not only are you a psychic and know it all, you are also a psycho with bad breath!
dw,
"multiculturalims and diversity are the very cause of our division and need for reunification." “Does that translate into a license to change us to your liking, make us your base of operations for reforming what you hate?” Is there a point in arguing with a moron? You make shit up, attribute it to me, and then blame me for that. Then you get offended for being called an idiot. When we call for Islam not to be forced into a public life, you’re accusing us of trying to spread it, which is quite the opposite. How stupid are you? We have neither conservative no liberal agenda, but since you suffer from pathological projection, you don’t care. One of the premier bloggers, Pamela Geller, is considered to be a conservative, and she supports us against attacks by liberals. Libtard Against Muslims Against Sharia. Would she do that if our rhetoric were “rooted in and mirrors the Liberal mantra.”? Unfortunately, since she is too much of an intellectual and your brain capacity seem to be equal to that of a house plant, I doubt you will understand her points, anyway. So, I’ll try to make it easier for you. She does not support us because we are anti-liberal; we are not. She supports us because are views on terrorism are virtually identical with hers.
Our courts and prisons will prosecute your enemies for you when they are enraged to action that should be more extreme than we have seen as you threaten their very existence wheras we only threaten their power?
I could go to the DOGPILE and dig around in the DOGpoo for some statistics, but our prison systems are overflowing with - ummmm - mohammedan converts.
They (prison residents) must be attracted to the 72 virgin thingy, or that thing about women and their 'freedoms'.
/self: ignore comments about bein' a scum bag. Skunks like the smell of their own orifices. These folks apparently revel in it.
RT - They like the hole they're diggin'. Could you possibly bump this one up a notch or three? They're hooked really well, and I want some lip left. I also went to 6 pound test. They think I'm ignorant of their - beliefs.
Now that they want to rip pages out of the koran, I'm considering finding a Bookbinder for 'em.
I'm gonna toss these dudes another hook. Maybe I should use a downrigger. Sounds like you dudes should hook up and join this guy's - um - crusade?
It maybe too late. MOF - it is. Pay heed, oh mohammedans, to what this guy is saying. Especially about the freedoms.
Interesting that you - folks - would mention Pamela Geller.
Geeesh, I tell ya, RT, the hits they just keep on comin'!!!
Here's another 'inside look' at your wonderful organization.
Hint,hint,hint. Read up. I don't know squat about your religious beliefs, right? WRONG. I'll go one-on-one with you anytime, mas. Name the date and time.
The fookin' silence is flat deafening.
While all this keeps you occupied and trading insults…it is all a waste of time.
Islam has become the most hated religion and the most hated religious/political cult of the 21st Century.
It’s too late to try and reform or protect it. It’s days are numbered and those that follow or fight
in Islam’s name are doomed.
What caused this? Islam caused this.
Islam is it’s followers worse enemy and it can not be stopped, nor changed from within, not even (or maybe especially) by the murders of Muslims by Muslims.
Islam must be eradicated from this planet, no matter how long it takes or how many must die.
That has always been the only real solution. It has just been delayed.
Papa Ray
So have you convinced Pamela to stop buying Saudi Oil yet?
How many times have I got to say that I support the intent of what you are doing?
Go ask Pamela what she thinks the chances are of you succeeding in reforming Islam.
But intents aside.....you appear to be fairly ignorant of the facts.
All Islamic nuclear technology came from Russia and China.
Really?...... then why was A.Q. Khan convicted in absentia for stealing URENCO blueprints for a uranium centrifuge in Belgium?
Just another example of you not having a clue what you are talking about. Those Centrifuges in Iran were built in Pakistan from the design Khan stole in Europe.
I guess thats what they get for trusting a Muslim.... just like us letting Muslims into our military led to one of them rolling a grenade into his commanders tent in the name of Islam.... and you're suggesting we should have brought more foreigners into our nuclear labs?
But you're right that China and Russia are currently proliferating nuclear technology into Muslim hands..... how does your plan to stop buying Saudi Oil stop that?
The whole premise of your "stop buying Islamic oil" is an ideological strawman. You know thats never going to happen, you just want to be able to shift the blame away from yourself, and your religion, when the angry mobs of Rednecks come knocking down your door after the next major Islamic attack here.
I think maybe you should take some of your own advice..... quit wasting your time trying to reform a religion that is based on violent Arab cultural values, and find you one that more accurately reflects your values.
The only way you're gonna be able to convince those angry mobs not to kill you is to take point when we go Mosque to Mosque.
Cap'n DOC
"our prison systems are overflowing with - ummmm - mohammedan converts."
Please concentrate. Considering your severely diminished mental you might have difficult time comprehending the following
US government degenerates (Christians) who run Federal Bureau of Prisons hired Imama Warith-Deen Umar and his group, a National Association of Muslim Chaplains (Muslims), to provide Muslim Chaplains for US Prisons and Military. After September 11 Umar said that attacks on NYC and DC were justified and that 9/11 hijackers should be remembered as Allah’s martyrs. Another Christian degenerate, Sister Susan VanBaalen, runs federal prison ministries, including the Islamic program. Sister Sue, as she is known, claims that Islamic chaplains (installed by Umar, the al-Qaeda sympathizer) do not present a threat. In fact, US prisons, is a recruiting ground for al-Qaeda, most of them, degenerate Muslims, formerly degenerate Christians. The situation is very similar to this: MAS president resigns from a government post after his radical views are revealed. In the meantime, information about radicalization of Muslim converts in American prisons is readily available to government degenerates. Moderate Muslims talk about it, but their complaints fall on deaf ears. I’m sure by now, Cap’n DOC has lost his train of thought, so I’ll put it in simpler terms: degenerate Christians hire degenerate Muslims to create more degenerate Muslims out of degenerate Christians.
Now, it gets interesting. Degenerate Christians (Cap’n DOC) blame moderate Muslims (Muslims Against Sharia) for al-Qaeda wannabees in US prisons. And when those degenerate Christians actually hear the voice of moderate Muslims, they claim that there is no difference between radical and moderate Muslims. There are two logical conclusions. Either information above is a bunch of made-up crap, or Cap’n DOC and his ilk are really, really, really dumb. Considering the fact that the above information is thoroughly documented by multiple terrorism researches, Muslim, Jewish, and Christian, the latter conclusion is the only one that holds water.
Apparently you are too stupid to understand why I brought up Pamela Geller. She is a well-known conservative and is unlikely to support someone with liberal mantra.
You got a lot of balls offering one-on-one from behind the computer, Cap'n chicken shit. You must have spent as much time in Vietnam as metin being a Muslim.
RT,
“So have you convinced Pamela to stop buying Saudi Oil yet?”
I didn't have to, she knew that before me
“Go ask Pamela what she thinks the chances are of you succeeding in reforming Islam.”
She did not quantify it, but when she was asked “is it your idea?”, she replied “no, but I love it!”
“Really?...... then why was A.Q. Khan convicted in absentia for stealing URENCO blueprints for a uranium centrifuge in Belgium?”
I stand corrected. MOST of Islamic nuclear technology comes from Russia and China. Most Libyan documents were in Chinese; Syria has Iraqi and North Korean components that in turn came from Russia and China. Even Pakistani nuclear program employs ex-Soviet scientists. So, I admit, among dozens of statements that I made, one was not completely accurate.
“Just another example of you not having a clue what you are talking about. Those Centrifuges in Iran were built in Pakistan from the design Khan stole in Europe”
Let’s not be bothered by a little fact that Russians were the ones who actually built it.
“I guess thats what they get for trusting a Muslim.... just like us letting Muslims into our military led to one of them rolling a grenade into his commanders tent in the name of Islam.... and you're suggesting we should have brought more foreigners into our nuclear labs?”
We are the first to say that Muslims must go though additional security checks before being placed in sensitive positions. Almost entire Arabic translation department of the FBI is made up of Muslims (some of whom openly celebrated 9/11 attacks), because FBI morons refuse to hire Jews from Arabic-speaking countries. But, again, we (moderate Muslims) are blamed for idiocy of government degenerates. Where would you prefer to have Russian nuclear scientists? In American labs under supervision or in Busher, building a bomb?
“But you're right that China and Russia are currently proliferating nuclear technology into Muslim hands..... how does your plan to stop buying Saudi Oil stop that?”
If the West stops buying Middle Eastern oil, it will decrease the money flow to the terrorists and diminish influence of Muslim radical regimes.
“You know thats never going to happen, you just want to be able to shift the blame away from yourself, and your religion, when the angry mobs of Rednecks come knocking down your door after the next major Islamic attack here.”
This is the first smart thing coming out of you in a long time. Even though it is not true, it is a plausible scenario and I cannot factually refute it. However, most members of our group do not look Middle Eastern, so unless all of us will try to hide in a mosque after the next attack, the threat of being attacked by a redneck mob is minimal.
“I think maybe you should take some of your own advice..... quit wasting your time trying to reform a religion that is based on violent Arab cultural values, and find you one that more accurately reflects your values.”
I addressed this suggestion in another forum. Leaving is an easy way out. There are hundreds of millions of innocent Muslims and we cannot leave them behind.
“The only way you're gonna be able to convince those angry mobs not to kill you is to take point when we go Mosque to Mosque.”
I’m glad to help you to indulge into your sick fantasies, you should share them at your next KKK meeting.
How stupid are you?
Well I am smart nuff to know I need a standard of comparrison to answer that. RT and Doc will do. I am as stupid as they are.
Well Muslins Against Sharia. I guess things are just not working out here. Sorry. You honestly tried. You gave it your best I am sure. O well, shit happens. Before you head back to the Middle East I want to say that I honestly wish you well. Over there, ... not here.
Anybody smell an Az?
Doc I missed your links the first time around or I would have commented differently. Thax man, they surpised me. I was thinking Az was foolin us after their last comment.
Papa I underestand your point. I did learn foirm talking to these boys even though it was nothing that would win an arguement.
I agree with RT and wish them well in their 'intent'.
I want Muslims outta my face, my news and my nation. Pro American, anti American, for or against Sharia, etc., etc. What wrong with this fucking picture? Like tha MASh said. How fucking stupid are we?
Hey MASh.....why does your blogger profile say you're in Afghanistan?
Is there a reason behind such a lie?
OUR GOALS
* to educate Muslims about dangers presented by Islamic religious texts and why Islam must be reformed
mash, rt is doing a better job of educating muslims of their need to reform than yourself. what is the danger to a moderate muslim if not exactly what rt is saying? all your goals - to educate, to educate, to educate... where is 'to reform' on that list? where is anything actionable? why not 'to print and distribute that edited koran'? the ultimate danger to islam is that we will be taken to the edge, and be forced to do away with it, and yet the education is lost on the muslim only because they are not receptive to the lesson. you go on about not buying middle east oil as if the world produces a surplus. you probably believe those emails about not buying oil from exxon on tuesday will make a damn bit of difference. if we didn't buy oil from south america, then we'd be buying it from the nordskis, which would in turn force the spaniards to buy their oil from south america instead of the nords. your idea to not buy me oil is to not use oil at all. oil is fungible. had opec not cut production, their embargo would have been all for not.
OT,
Papa Ray,
Where have you been hanging out today. I'll bet you didn't eat well.
Let’s not be bothered by a little fact that Russians were the ones who actually built it.
There again, you probably would have been better off to keep your mouth shut than to open it and expose your formitable lack of knowledge.
The Russians are building a reactor at Bushehr.....we were talking about centrifuges, were we not?. The centrifuges located at Natanz and Arak were not built by the Russians they were built in Pakistan and Iran using stolen European design.
“RT and Doc … I am as stupid as they are.” At least we agree on something.
“Hey MASh.....why does your blogger profile say you're in Afghanistan?
Is there a reason behind such a lie?” Would you be able to wrap your peanut brain around the idea that whomever created the profile could be there?
“'to print and distribute that edited koran'?” we’d love to. Do you know of anyone who would finance it? “you go on about not buying middle east oil as if the world produces a surplus” lets get back to the oil issue when you learn the subject. Otherwise I’m just wasting my time. There are two great websites: SetAmericaFree.org and BankruptTerror.org. If Woolsey and Porter’s arguments will not convince you, nothing will.
“Russians are building a reactor at Bushehr” - officially. Every other Middle Eastern reactor has been (or is being built) with participation of ex-Soviet scientists. Why do you think Russian nuclear energy commission is talking about urgent need for educating a new generation of nuclear scientists? Because the old generation has gone to the Middle East.
is there something in particular you wanted to show me at those two links? are you trying to show that oil is not fungible? the first link says that we should stop using oil. our oil, their oil, it doesn't matter. will you show me where setamericafree says to stop importing middle east oil?
now the next one, bankruptterror, is just wonderful. i like the little shell logo that turns into a skull. i also like when you click "about", and go to the government link that shows how much oil companies import from the gulf, shell in its various forms imported nothing from the persian gulf. suppose you're thinking of something other than oil, mash? i also like on that govt link, they proclaim that oil is a fungible commodity.
i don't mind you setting aside the oil issue. near as i can tell you're pretty confused anyway. do you suppose that we can get the m.e. to place an embargo on us again? because the last time we weren't buying m.e. oil, it took away all the resources for muslims to do stupid stuff, like hijack a plane. like a pan am plane. like flight number 110. or twa. 841. genius plan - if only we stop using oil, er... the evil mideast oil.
why don't you use some of that counter-bounty money and go to print on the koran? something tells me that you haven't priced out how little printing a book actually costs now (having trouble estimating the value of your life, maybe?)
Every other Middle Eastern reactor has been (or is being built) with participation of ex-Soviet scientists.
Yeah well, like you said earlier.....
This statement wouldn’t sound as idiotic if Israel did not exist.
Was the Dimona reactor in Israel built "with participation of ex-Soviet scientists"? I've always thought the French built that one.
Actually, the only currently operational reactor in Iran was built by Westinghouse with US blessings. Another mistaken moment of the West trusting Muslims.
So lets just say, for the sake of reason and logic, that the US is not going to stop "supporting Islamic Terrorism by buying Saudi Oil"....... what's your Plan B?
I thought Stomper's idea about revising the Koran to your liking was an excellent idea. And with internet publishing / distribution I dont see why you would need a lot of external funding to produce it..... maybe who ever created your Blogger profile for you
could distribute a few early drafts around Kandahar and Quetta and report back with some initial feedback.
MASh? Everyone here has argued with them/him on every level of understanding and information. Why are they/him here at this site. Calling us stupid and bigots to, ... what, ... gain our approval?. Seems to me the only people they are trying to educate and reform are us stupid American bigots. I think they must know by now they cannot do anything here so, they remain for the fun of mere challenge and name calling.
They have to get past the blogosphere to go mainstream? And they want donations. They no doubt are documenting our slander, mistrust and rejection of their facts and questionable stated goals.
I am noting the blogs that welcomed them with open arms. I doubt MASh knows anything about Ayn Rand and thinks he/they have found legitimacy and nuff prestige to challenge the 'real' Americans that maintain this nations stability and power.
The more I think of my last comment the more it disturbs the hell out of me.
Muslims everywhere dominating our concerns, threatening an intimidating, spreading their lies. It's in our prisons and attracts those that hate Whites and America. Mosques going up everywhere, they are in our schools and building their own schools here, setting up shop in our small towns and lobbying our government, gaining special interests like public foot bath plumbing fixtures, staging scenarios to alarm us and then litigation, damn Palestinians and Iraqi's and damn Iranians, Pakistan, on and on, horrors in Darfur and Somalia. And now the fucking good one have found this site and are expressing their respect and desire for support from us
They will in fact provoke us all to hate-mongering medieval practices. They bring the fucking worst out of everybody they convert as well as those the piss off. The fucking dragon in your face 24/7 until you become like him
If it is in fact true that the left has rejected them, thank god.
RT - Did you happen to get a screencap of that blogger profile? I get an error when I tried to use the linky. That, or they're being cagey after you 'flushed' 'em out.
You must have spent as much time in Vietnam as metin being a Muslim.
Um - No. Metin's been hangin' around here for more than a year, and that's all that I spent in the paradise we call South Vietnam.
I thought I could at least straighten you out on that misconception. Matters not how long I spent there, anyway. I've been looking into your 'religion' for over thirty years. I'd admit it ain't the only one I've studied, but it got a lot of my attention.
Oh yah - Beat your wife lately?
Inconsistencies in the Koran
Unfortunately, Islamic religious texts, including the Koran and the Hadith contain many passages, which call for Islamic domination and incite violence against non-Muslims. It is time to change that. Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Koran is the literal word of Allah. But could Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim?
Explain the last two sentences above from your Manifesto, please.
The answer is "Yes", he could.
I will say this again!!!
While all this keeps you occupied and trading insults…it is all a waste of time.
Islam has become the most hated religion and the most hated religious/political cult of the 21st Century.
It’s too late to try and reform or protect it. It’s days are numbered and those that follow or fight
in Islam’s name are doomed.
What caused this? Islam caused this.
Islam is it’s followers worse enemy and it can not be stopped, nor changed from within, not even (or maybe especially) by the murders of Muslims by Muslims.
Islam must be eradicated from this planet, no matter how long it takes or how many must die.
That has always been the only real solution. It has just been delayed.
Papa Ray
Papa Ray
"Islam must be eradicated from this planet, no matter how long it takes or how many must die. That has always been the only real solution."
Don't you mean 'final solution'? Is your copy of 'Mein Kampf' signed?
Cap'n DOC,
"You must have spent as much time in Vietnam as metin being a Muslim." Too dumb to understand a simple sentence? Let me explain that even your lonely brain cell can digest it. Metin is not a Muslim, he is just as full of shit as you are pretending to be a Vietnam vet.
“Unfortunately, Islamic religious texts, including the Koran and the Hadith contain many passages, which call for Islamic domination and incite violence against non-Muslims. It is time to change that. Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Koran is the literal word of Allah. But could Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim?”
This means that the Koran may have been the word of God, but it has been changed. If you weren’t such a dumbshit and actually read the Koran, you could see that there are many verses that contradict each other.
But could Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim?”
Why not.....Mohammed did!!
Thanks for the lesson on the Koran.... we're only a couple of years ahead of you.
dw,
"I think they must know by now they cannot do anything here so, they remain for the fun of mere challenge and name calling."
I have to admit, it is kinda fun to see you morons trying to justify your bigotry and explain your stupidity. Most of you are hopeless and worthless, but harmless. Chicken-shit threats from behind-the-computer do not really leave me quaking in my boots. However, there might be some smart Americans who would stumble upon this thread and they actually might learn something from it. Something like this http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...-calls-
for.html or this http://
muslimsagainstsharia.blog...hmadinejad.html.
RT,
“Why not.....Mohammed did!!” Are you that stupid that you cannot understand the difference between God and Prophet? And Muhammad also commanded respect for the People of the Book. Don’t you find it odd that those two things contradict each other to the point that if put together they make no sense?
“we're only a couple of years ahead of you.”
With you capacity for critical thinking and vast knowledge of the Koran you could only be a couple of years ahead of an amoeba.
RT,
"This statement wouldn’t sound as idiotic if Israel did not exist." Are you trying hard to look like a moron or you’re really that stupid? Most of Israeli nuclear physicists also came from the Soviet Union. However, I have no problem with that.
"So lets just say, for the sake of reason and logic, that the US is not going to stop "supporting Islamic Terrorism by buying Saudi Oil"....... what's your Plan B?"
Buying beach front property in Antarctica.
A former (and hopefully a future) Prime Minister of Israel once said that West has the means, but doesn’t have the will; Islamic terrorists have the will, but don’t have the means. I hope that the West finds its will before the Islamic terrorists find the means.
there might be some smart Americans who would stumble upon this thread and they actually might learn something from it.
Like I said, they are trying to reform us and they are amazingly optomistic?
Chicken shit? By myself I ain diddly squat nor suicidal for a cause. With my buds I may well be an effective soldier or I may well die in the first skirmish. Anybody can be bound helpless and terrified and made to verbally reject their own beleifs. You, me, anybody. Although it is very highly unlikely, I am prepared for an attempted kidnapping, Muslin or street criminal. Chicken shit? Here is my experience with people. You can catch them off guard and scare the shit out of them but they often come back to square things with you one way or another. Not always, but often.
RT, Doc and others. Thanx for immediately exposing these guys. By myself I might have fallen for their story.
"Like I said, they are trying to reform us and they are amazingly optomistic?"
Islamophobic bigots have a lot in common with radical Muslims. Their stupidity and aversion to reform are about the same.
"Chicken-shit" remark referred to Cap'n DOC's mano-o-mano offer.
The Islamofascists rise up and we bigots rise up against them. You see an opportunity to sit in the middle asking for donations while elevating yourselves by condemning us. Their is a large segment of the American public that will indeed fall for that facade. You may in fact have a shot at winning support if your bounty works and if you survive but what about us here? We are what? A threat to you also? Your heroism will not benefit us but it will threaten us here later on down the road when you multiply and prosper.
Are you documenting this thread for future use? Assessing the players here for future reference? Are you attempting to discover any of our personal identities? Do you see us as a potential vigilante threat? Do you believe that our cultural claim on America is valid? Do you recognize our Constitution as a set of working principles that you can adapt to and support?
I got Muslim and Islamic news and occurrences coming out my ass 24/7. How do they manage that? What is wrong with that picture?
"The Islamofascists rise up and we bigots rise up against them."
At least you're honest. Dumb, but honest. Bigots are the ones who are too stupid to see the difference between Islamofascists and Muslims. People who see the difference are not bigots.
"we bigots rise up against them."
You are great at blowing smoke up your own ass. We co-sponsored a Rally Against Islamofascism (http://bankruptterror.org/news/091107.php). What exactly YOUR "rising up" amounts to?
"We are what? A threat to you also?" ... "Do you see us as a potential vigilante threat?"
Why would you ask such dumb questions after I already said, "Most of you are hopeless and worthless, but harmless." You are too dumb to be a threat.
“Your heroism will not benefit us but it will threaten us here later on down the road when you multiply and prosper.”
What a great manifestation of stupidity and bigotry in a single sentence.
“Are you documenting this thread for future use? Assessing the players here for future reference? Are you attempting to discover any of our personal identities?”
If I would, do you really think I would tell you? Besides, a single post is enough to collect an IP address.
“Do you believe that our cultural claim on America is valid? Do you recognize our Constitution as a set of working principles that you can adapt to and support?”
I dare you to find a single statement by any of our members that proves otherwise. The whole premise of being against Sharia is to be pro Democracy.
“I got Muslim and Islamic news and occurrences coming out my ass 24/7. How do they manage that? What is wrong with that picture?”
The media is run by whores; and good news is not news, it is boring; most of the bad news has to do with Muslims.
Hey idiot Mash:
Who the FUCK do you think you are coming in here and judging who's Muslim and who's not. Did Allah teach you that a person's 'Muslimness' is between him and Allah.
You are full of SHIT!
And you should be ashamed to call yourself a Muslim!
You are more harmful than the fundamentalists who at least have the balls to admit they mean harm.
You should go back and re-study the religion that you make a mockery of by calling people that don't agree with you idiots, whores, etc. You need 'ethnic' and 'mental' cleansing!!!
Who gave you the right to judge people!
Maybe you should have your arguments directed at those Muslims who you think you need to reform! with your humble yet angry self!
I've never used the word FUCK in any of my posts, blogs, and never in a comment ever in my life, except for this time a first here and directed at YOU!
Get Lost!
Hey Mash-man: Muslims Against Shariah sounds like Jews against Kosher!
Maybe you should work on changing the perception of Islam, instead of Islam itself. But you've already caused enough damage for the week.
The biggest threat to Islam are the Muslims (who don't know and practice the 'real' Islam and yet over and over again do the things to reinforce non-Muslims' negative opinions, deservingly so, by proving they are the real culprits of and about 'perceived' Islam).
But in order to qualify as a Muslim, one must also learn to be a human being who gets along with all people, no matter how idiotic they may act, sound, or just are. Muslims also are supposed to respect those with differing opinions. Maybe you should re-read the meaning of fundamentalism, before you ask 'us' to help you with saving the Muslims from it.
Have you even discovered Sufism? Do you even know who Rumi is?
Do you know that a learned person has a lot more to learn than a student's ever present need to teach??? Think about that as you compare yourself to you!
If you want to see how others perceive you, try looking at yourself in the mirror!
Do you realize an 'organized' religion actually divide, and not unite, the human element and spirit? Do you understand the meaning of 'spirituality'? Or are you that shallow?
By the way, if you can't take the heat, then don't try tell the chef in his kitchen how to cook.
Oh boy... I gotta a lot of shit to wade through - better put on my waders.
mohammedans Against Sharia Ha!
I could care less whether you think I've spent any time whatsoever in Vietnam, but of course since you ain't in Kansas any more, Toto (just so we're clear, Toto was the DOG in the Wizard of Oz), you haven't got a whole lotta hard ground to stand on. The folks on this blog I count as my friends and I would produce evidence of where I was in 1969, but for the fact I'm believable, whereas - YOU AIN'T.
I think I'll rip these apart one at time...
masH -
He hates Muslims just for being Muslim.
First off, I never said (1) I hated anyone, nor did I say that (2) I hated mohammedans. I think that mohammedans are misguided and under the impression they worship God, when in fact they do not. What can you tell me about the crescent moon? What can you tell me about the peace symbol? What can you tell me about combining them together?
Would you be able to wrap your peanut brain around the idea that whomever created the profile could be there?
Yup. We could. How about you prove to us you're in a Cornfield, Peanut Brain?
Islamic terrorists have the will, but don’t have the means.
Now, that's just a dumb sentence on your part. You wanna give that one another go?
"Chicken-shit" remark referred to Cap'n DOC's mano-o-mano offer.
Offer still stands. If you came to my door, I'd ask you in so I could discuss your affliction with you. I consider you in need of help. I'd gladly uncover my candle from under the basket so you might have a glimpse of the light.
Someone once said - "Well, there ya go". - as in, you see? You said it yourself -
The media is run by whores; and good news is not news, it is boring; most of the bad news has to do with Muslims.
Go figure. Are you talking in circles, or what?
And to add Insult to Injury, masH, you've blown yourself away all by yourself.
What names haven't you called us here?
You've said here that we tarnish mohammed by claiming he was a pedophile and murderer, but yet you expect us to take his word that YOU are doing the right thing in his name? There's something in that bit of logic (or illogic) that I can't seem to wrap my head around. I should ignore the fact he was a pedophile and murderer, and accept that he had only good intentions.
Go figure.
MASh, for me this is the most unique thread I have commented on. Lack of knowledge of actual facts and occurrences are insignificant as compared to ideology and beliefs. I don't stumble over who is right or wrong ovder facts of occurance. Am I so different than others in an argument? Yourself included? We all understand our own beliefs and can articulate them. From a certain perspective we here are arguing over having to share this nation's space and time.
I mentioned our Constitution in relation to your own beliefs. Your response was;
I dare you to find a single statement by any of our members that proves otherwise. The whole premise of being against Sharia is to be pro Democracy.
Please do not equate my stupidity as a product of the other stupid people here. We are all uniquely stupid. America is not a Democracy! We are a Constitutional republic! That is why the stupid majority cannot simply vote away the enlightened minority population. Your rights as a minority would negate my voting you out of my nation so you could fight your own battles in your own place of origin. I applaud you and support you in that effort yet there is a certain truth attached to my admiration of anyone that will stand and fight an evil.
You wish to cleanse Islam form the evil that has infiltrated it? I won't argue the obvious and will give you benefit of doubt. BUT! Muslims are a force and growing population in the West. Islam is 100% incompatible with Western ideology. Even if reformed, our laws and roots are derived from Christianity and our two great spiritual beliefs have congregations that also have a vision for our nation. They also vote. Even before Islam in the West became an issue we were divided against the socialist. Now enter Islam and the Mexican invasion. And a multitude of other groups all wanting their idealogical/spiritual equal rights. Some even believe that their criminality is a legitimate ideology.
Multi cultural ism and diversity are paving the way for a fascist government. Can you fathom any other form of government that could control a diversity that demands an equality that cannot be defined outside of a singular ideology. Does Islam recognize this Western problem? Are you working to wards a future Islamic solution, regardless of your peaceful intentions?
BTW I like your redneck humor and slander and name calling. I guess some aspects of assimilation come naturally. I like you guys even though you, by reason of being in my nation, an enemy to all I believe. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. He might be my temp;oral ally but, somehow it seems stupid to bring him home and give him land grants and political power for his temporal support.
He/she may yet surprise us, dw, but my sense is that now he/she has been 'outted' for where their (corn)crib is located, they won't play anymore.
Mournin Doc, got that Java? lol I had 2 cups by 6am here.
Man I tell ya RT amazes me with his insights and his search engine is a deadly 'Weapon of Mass bullshit Destruction'. (WMbsD) I followed your's and others lead here and very quicky realized it was the right track. It is so very easy to be fooled considering our very tolerant national character that wants to help the underdog. We are all goin to heavan if there is such a place.
...his search engine...
Google Fu. Similar to Dogpile Fu. I prefer Dogpile when dealing with mohammedans - they hate it. And you could have discovered it as well. I did my dogpile search for blogger profile muslims against sharia, and flooop! It fell right out on the deck, just like that.
Did you notice the way the silly little pansy didn't even answer the question? He went all dog-poopy mouthed when he discovered he'd been outted...
Yes, I have. I'm working on my second cup of Java as well. Read that Shiite on this busy thread, and was forced to take extremely fast action to avoid curse words so early in the day.I'm chillin' now.
metin,
“Who the FUCK do you think you are coming in here and judging who's Muslim and who's not.”
The fact that, unlike you, I possess multiple brain cells qualifies me to make that judgment. Even a fucking moron like you would leave Islam if he were ashamed of being Muslim. As I mentioned before, when I call you an idiot, it is meant as a description, not an insult, because only an idiot would stay Muslim when he/she has an option of not doing so. This concept is not that complicated, how fucking stupid should you be not to understand a simple premise?
“Who gave you the right to judge people!”
Do you really consider yourself “people”? Isn’t it just a bit of a stretch? I’ve seen monkeys more intelligent than you.
“Muslims Against Shariah sounds like Jews against Kosher!”
Kosher laws were placed in effect when food preparation techniques were a little different, i.e., no refrigeration, sterilization, etc., and they made practical sense at the time. Today, those laws are nothing more than a religious tradition, and many Jews do not follow them. But since Kosher laws to not perpetuate mass murder, being against them would be pointless. Sharia does, that is why we are against it.
“The biggest threat to Islam are the Muslims who don't know and practice the 'real' Islam”
By real Islam you mean “and kill them wherever you find them”? Doesn’t get any more real than that. Why would you want to keep such repugnant statement in the holy book?
“But in order to qualify as a Muslim, one must also learn to be a human being who gets along with all people”
Unfortunately, the Koran, in it present form prohibits that: “do not take Jews & Christians for friends”, “slay the idolatries wherever you find them.”
“Have you even discovered Sufism? Do you even know who Rumi is?”
Just because some dumbshit like you looked up online ‘Sufism’ and ‘Rumi’ he is supposed to be a Muslim? Neither fundamentalist Sunnis nor fundamentalist Shia even consider Sufis Muslim. And no matter how peaceful and non-violent Sufis could be, they, (all ten of them) have no influence in the Islamic world. Besides, most Chechen Muslims are Sufi, and they don’t seem to be too peaceful.
“Do you realize an 'organized' religion actually divide, and not unite, the human element and spirit?”
What are you a fucking commie now?
Just out of curiosity Khalim, since you dont allow any comments at your blog to show till you personally approve them......would you have let one like your last one through? Am I showing you more leeway here than you would me at MASh?
I am still trying to get my mind around the "oil is not entirely fungible" concept.
Lets say we stop buying Saudi oil.....what then happens to the 2 million barrels a day that they produce?
Do they just quit pumping oil because nobody else will buy it?
Do they sell it for below market value?
Same with the Iranians I guess. If the west stops buying all that oil....are you seriously suggesting no one else would?
Cap’n DOC
“since you ain't in Kansas any more, Toto”
Before you display your vast knowledge of American literature, you might want to actually read the book, so you won’t be fucking up your quotes. “You’re not in Kansas anymore” phrase was not addressed to Toto.
“First off, I never said (1) I hated anyone, nor did I say that (2) I hated mohammedans.”
“There is NO difference between a moderate and radical mohammedan - ZERO.”
Let’s examine these two quotes. Radical Muslims are responsible for hundreds of dead Americans before 9/11, thousands on 9/11, and thousands more after 9/11. It quite reasonable for every American to hate them. An American who doesn’t hate moderate Muslims is either a fucking degenerate (like Alex Jones) who doesn’t believe that radical Muslims are responsible or a fucking degenerate (like Ward Churchill) who believes that Americans deserve that. So, if you hate all Muslims, you are a bigot. If you don’t hate any Muslims, you are a fucking degenerate. Take your pick.
“Islamic terrorists have the will, but don’t have the means.
Now, that's just a dumb sentence on your part. You wanna give that one another go?”
That “dumb” sentence came from to Benjamin Netanyahu, one of the smartest people alive. Your not-surprising reaction shows your stupidity on two levels. First, I stated that it is not my quote, even though I completely agree with it. Second, if you don’t believe for a second that if Islamic terrorists had the means to wipe off the West and they didn’t use those means, you are much dumber than I thought.
“You've said here that we tarnish mohammed by claiming he was a pedophile and murderer”
Really? When have I ever said that? When you pull quotes out of your ass, do not attribute them to me, unless they actually came from me. In fact, if a fucking moron like you weren’t too lazy to do a little research, he would see that our manifesto clearly states “Any practices that might have been acceptable in the Seventh Century; i.e., stoning, cutting off body parts, marrying and/or having sex with children or animals, must be condemned by every Muslim.” Pedophilia was common in ancient times, at least, according to the Old Testament. We are not passing judgment on ancient Muslims or Jews, but we clearly state that it is unacceptable today.
“Lack of knowledge of actual facts and occurrences are insignificant as compared to ideology and beliefs.”
That presupposes that you understand our ideology and beliefs, which you clearly do not.
“America is not a Democracy! We are a Constitutional republic!”
What a fucking moron! America is not a Democracy? Oh, this is beautiful! Do you even understand what Democracy is? “Democracy” and “Constitutional Republic” are not mutually exclusive terms. Your statement is just as stupid as ‘We are not people, we are Americans”.
“Islam is 100% incompatible with Western ideology.”
Isn’t what we are doing, reforming Islam so it would be compatible? American society model is based on Judeo-Christian doctrine, but so is Islam. Mary is mentioned more times in the Koran and in the Bible.
“Are you working to wards a future Islamic solution, regardless of your peaceful intentions?”
You keep asking idiotic questions, because you are too fucking lazy to read what was already addressed in this thread as well as on our site. Or do you think that if you ask the same question more than once, you’ll get different answers.
“you, by reason of being in my nation, an enemy to all I believe.”
Again, your conclusions are ruled by bigotry rather than facts or rational thinking.
“I prefer Dogpile when dealing with mohammedans - they hate it.”
Another baseless statement from a fucking moron. We prefer not to use Google for a simple reason that Google blocks websites that are critical of radical Islam.
Islamophobic rednecks,
Check out degenerates on the other side of the spectrum. http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthre...ead.php?
t=30982. You are accusing us of Muslim conspiracy, they are accusing us of Jewish conspiracy. However, their logic based on the same kind of idiocy as yours.
It quite reasonable for every American to hate them. An American who doesn’t hate moderate Muslims is either a fucking degenerate (like Alex Jones) who doesn’t believe that radical Muslims are responsible or a fucking degenerate (like Ward Churchill) who believes that Americans deserve that.
Are you just plain stupid? I'm a Christian with Christian ethics and principles, and truly believe if my God, who truly IS, unlike your sham prophet, who WAS a pedophile, rapist and murderer, according to his own biographers.
So... You apparently take the word of a pedophile, rapist and murderer as 'gospel'. Well - so be it. I don't. I say mohammed WAS a pedophile, rapist and murderer, and therefore I'll accept nothing from his mouth (including the bits and pieces you want to somehow excise from the doggerel of a book called the koran).
Hate the sin. Love the sinner. Look after your brother who strays from the path of righteousness. I give you advice and you spit in my face.
Sweet. Show me some your true colors, will ya?
Another baseless statement from a fucking moron. We prefer not to use Google for a simple reason that Google blocks websites that are critical of radical Islam.
Yahoo!!!!
You shouldn't call yourself a fuckin' moron - even if you are.
...Google blocks websites that are critical of radical Islam.
Why would they do that? Give me some examples, please.
/note to self: Big treble hook is now buried firmly in what is left of this Bottomfeeder's lips.
http://exposingmuslimsagainstsha...a.blogspot.com/
Thank you for reminding the world that Muslims do not hold a monopoly on being "Murdering Bastards".
No, not a monopoly, but they do seem to be the majority shareholders these days.
MAS,
You've said a lot here; some I agree with, most I don't. If I have time, I would like to give a more measured response.
I'll leave you with this:
Oil embargo of ’73. A) Middle East produces one-third on world’s oil. How come the other two thirds did not fill the void?
B. If oil was truly fungible, would Chavez be selling it to the US? 11% of oil used in the US comes from Venezuela.
2. Economists predict that if the US cuts its oil consumption by 10%, world oil prices will be cut in half.
3. ANWR can produce the same amount of oil as US exports from Saudi Arabia.
A)Middle East produced 30%, but OPEC produced over two thirds, and still does:
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/
bp_...uction_2006.pdf
and for all intents and purposes, when you refer to OAPEC, you refer to OPEC. Even in 1973
But beside that, there were a number of other compounding issues for this. On August 15, 1971 the United States pulled out of the Bretton Woods system in the so called Nixon shock. The result was a depreciation of the value of the US dollar against many other currencies. Since oil was priced in dollars this meant that oil producers were receiving less "real" income for the same price. In the years after 1971 OPEC was slow to readjust prices to reflect this depreciation. Now extrapolate that into higher prices from an embargo. You'll see your theory does not hold water. In addition, since that time, major finds in the North Sea, Canada, Venezuela and Mexico, in addition to the opening up of the Russian supply have changed the playing field. In addition, in 1973, the US imported about 90% of its oil; now its less than 50%, as well as increasin its nuclear, ethanol, wind, coal, efficiency, and other non-oil issues.
But to answer your question, there were two reasons in addition to the ones above. One, is that we had imposed price controls; the second is that at that time, the oil consumption of the rest of the world combined wasn't anywhere close to the United States, so there was no third party whose oil to buy, at least not enough to substantially change the leverage that the Arabs had.
In other words: in a fungible system: Oil producers A, B, and C, all export oil to a central market X. Buyers D, E, and F all buy from market X. So if seller A (Opec) refuses to sell to buyer D (US), then, through the fungible world market, buyer D buys more oil from sellers B and C, and buyers E and F buy more from A, consisting of the product refused buyer A. See?
Now, in 1973, remove E and F (or at least F), eliminate B and essentially C, impose price controls, phenomenal inflation and a weak dollar to begin with on A, and you begin to see the problem, and why the situation is not the same. Suffice to say oil is far more fungible than it used to be.
And just as a point, you could easily make the argument that since the US was not the only one who felt the pain of this, that the Arabs created their own worst problem by doing this. The Russians, feeling the crush of this on their own economiy and military sought to secure their own supply, thus precipitating the Afghan War. You don't think the Russians attacked an utter shithole like Afghanistan for the glory of Mother Russia, did you?
B)Of course he would; the question is, why wouldn't he? In addition to being fungible, there are mechanisms to sell directly to buyers in addition to selling through a common market. But he could stop selling to us that way, and has threatened to. But he understands, as you do not, that that will create more hassles for him than it will for us, in more ways than one. But again, if Chavez refuses to sell us the 11% of the less than 50% we import, and instead sells it to.....Zimbabwe...let's say...then all that Zimbabwe would have bought from Russia is now available for the US. Chavez knows this, and that's why its an empty threat.
2. Bullshit. I don't know which economist is claiming this, but he or she either is stupid or out of date. I've not seen anyone claiming this, anywhere, so feel free to cite your source. Right now, emerging markets in China and India are buying up all the oil they can get their hands on to fuel their own economies; reduction of our use, because oil is fungible leaves them with more product to buy. Supply may increase, but unless that supply outstrips demand, prices won't drop.
3. What this has to do with oil being fungible I have no idea, but I don't think the estimates are that high for ANWR; however, it is true for the oil shale in Arizona, Nevada, and Utah.
Later.
what's idiotic is the idea that mash can actually produce anything positive because they have no plan to do anything.
to educate Muslims about dangers presented by Islamic religious texts and why Islam must be reformed
where is the danger? is it from the extremist muslims? the non-muslim? the moderate muslim?
take a muslim, one neither moderate nor extremist, and explain to him that there are two interpretations of the koran: the first you have to read between the lines to see peace and love for everyone, the second says you have to be killed if you read between the lines. anyone with a developed sense of self-preservation might be tempted to opt for the latter. the danger is being killed for not being killer. in the world comprised solely of killers, no one needs to be killed. to educate about the differences is to persuade someone to join the killers unless there is a greater danger in becoming a killer. right here you can read about that danger, but you dismiss it. tell me the danger that is posed to the extremist. or to the moderate. it's your goal, you should be able to explain the purpose. the danger must be external. here you see the tables turned - a real 'why do they hate us?' moment, and yet you ignore it.
to educate non-Muslims about the differences between moderate Muslims and Islamists
an extremist is a moderate that has yet found an opportunity to act. why don't you just follow the mormon example and just call yourself something different and use your own texts. if you aren't interested in reforming others (not in your stated goals), then abandon it.
to educate both Muslims and non-Muslims alike that Moderate Muslims are also targets of Islamic Terror
so recognized. if you're worried about the crossfire, get the hell off the fence and do something. you aren't willing to be subversive and yet you won't abandon.
useless and ineffective.
RT!!!! Dang you! I Dogpiled that up! Hey! I don't think they're interested in logic, they just want to fling their little Dog poopies around.
Good to see you can post occasionally, jm. It really is.
Studying his MO around the blogosphere, it appears MASh is trying to drive traffic and comments to his blog..... a blog where he chooses which comments get published and which ones dont.
Counter-bounties require financial support doncha know......a lot of people, not me, have been clamoring for a moderate muslim to "stand up" and denounce violent Islam, and that Islam needs a "Martin Luther", and this clown, whether he's really a Muslim or not, is attempting to fill that void....and his tip jar........ I only wish I had thought of it first.
RT and the rest of the gang:
It appears you've become the laughing stock of Mash, by allowing him a stage in which to operate on, without any utensils, and no scrubbing of course.
I've never thought I'd meet a redneck Muslim!!!
By the way, you should all watch 'Aliens in America' tonight. It's a sitcom on the CW!
As for the Muslims against the Muslims Against Shariah! What's next?
Muslims Against the Muslims Against the Muslims Against Shariah?
We can call it MAMAMAS for short. Hopefully they won't be on the same blogroll as MAHATMAS against Gandhi, or MYANMARS against the Monks, or MALAGANS against Spain's dominance of the Rock of Gibraltar.
Of course, they might have all of the (Young and Old) Muslims in their payroll. Then, they could call themselves YOMAMA!
By the way, I am so happy that Mr. Mash(ed) Potato offers free Cat-Scans here for brain analysis to the poor and the belligerent.
RT and the rest of the gang:
It appears you've become the laughing stock of Mash
Nah Metin...... I haven't even begun to fuck with him yet
.... were just gathering data, giving him some rope, documenting his flawed POV, and establishing a basis for future reference.
His days of rue are forthcoming, trust me.
RT - I'm waiting for that one, last little tidbit which will shut him up. Like coming here, he's going to gen all that traffic.
We're all bigoted islamophobes doncha know?
I never, ever thought I'd get tossed in that hand-basket.
Kinda curious though - I guess I didn't realize mohammedans were so prejudiced.
My,my,my.
I guess I didn't realize mohammedans were so prejudiced
Maybe MAS and his buddies have been hitting the corn MASH.
RT - Trust me. I trust you. He's well hooked. Now that I'm where I can do a little uninterrupted snooping...
Capn' DOC,
"Hate the sin. Love the sinner" What’s next? You going to suck bin Laden’s cock? If you don’t hate people who are responsible for more than 7,000+ dead Americans, you have no balls, no brains and no honor. You are a walking ACLU commercial.
“Why would they do that? Give me some examples, please.” Any good reason I should educate a degenerate for free? Let’s bet $1000 on it and I’ll show you the proof.
johnnymozart
As any baseless premise you oil embargo argument is lacking of a crucial component: percentage of oil used in the US supplied by OPEC in ’73 and in ’07. And what the fuck does invasion of Afghanistan in ’79 have to do with oil crisis of ’73? What about area 51 and Kennedy assassination? Were they it also connected to ’73 oil crisis? “Bullshit. I don't know which economist is claiming this, but he or she either is stupid or out of date. I've not seen anyone claiming this” Is there a possibility that you’re the one who is stupid? Just a thought. ANWR statistics are provided by ANWR. As for oil shale, the reserves are several times larger than the ones in Saudi Arabia. There are many other ways. Coal to oil is one of them. China has 10 factories that convert coal into oil. America has a shitload of coal. The point is, that America CAN become energy independent without great sacrifice. Even if you do not agree that oil prices will plummet as a result, at least Gulf Sates will not be controlling US foreign policy.
wafflestomper,
"to educate Muslims about dangers presented by Islamic religious texts and why Islam must be reformed"
“where is the danger? is it from the extremist muslims? the non-muslim? the moderate muslim?”
What a moron! Which part of “dangers presented by Islamic religious texts” confused you? The danger is in the text, you numbskull! BTW, love your photo.
RT,
“a blog where he chooses which comments get published and which ones dont.”
Aren’t you a lying scumbag? How many of you comments did we publish and ho many did we reject?
How many of you comments did we publish and ho many did we reject?
None......Yet
But I have a strong feeling that's gonna change in the future.....
I'm just wonderin why you feel the need to screen all comments there?
I see most threads there have zero comments..... how many people do you figure never leave a second comment there after they figure out their first one was screened before it was published.
Is that your first blog?
Are you never going to directly answer my question about what happens to the Saudi and Iranian oil we dont buy?
RT & Cap'n DOC,
Neither of you have produced a valid argument so far, they either irrelevant or false. Your utter display of stupidity and bigotry, while entertaining, serves its purpose. We would be greatly disappointed if you stop.
OK MASh
You should feel obligated to answer a few appropriate questions that have already been asked but were in the thick of argument and maybe got overlooked.
-Are you in fact Muslims, and a Muslim group? If so what sect?
-What non Muslim groups are you working with? Do you solicit their help with the same points and rhetoric as you use here? (not referring to our mutual jokes and slander)
-Are you getting financial support? (if your non profit that should be public info)
-Do you have links to Muslim groups based in the Mideast or Europe? If so what are their names?
-How will you protect yourself from the radicals you will not doubt enrage?
-Will you subordinate your Muslim beliefs to our Constitution? Will you conduct yourself as a cultural guest if you cannot assimilate, or work to change our laws to accommodate your faith.
-Are you practitioners in the medical field?
Does the American Liberal contact you? Do they recognize you?
Most interesting to me is the point of your arguing your case here. Will you edit and use this thread elsewhere? Many premier blogs out there. What attracts you to us?
“How many of you comments did we publish and ho many did we reject?
None......Yet”
then, doesn’t your statement “a blog where he chooses which comments get published and which ones dont.” Proves that you are a fucking moron?
“I'm just wonderin my you feel the need to screen all comments there?”
idiots like you have been known to hit “submit” button more than once, and we do not allow Islamist propaganda.
“Is that your first blog?”
As MASH, as far as I know, yes.
You should feel obligated to answer a few appropriate questions that have already been asked but were in the thick of argument and maybe got overlooked.
-Are you in fact Muslims, and a Muslim group? If so what sect?
Yes / All three major denominations
-What non Muslim groups are you working with? Do you solicit their help with the same points and rhetoric as you use here? (not referring to our mutual jokes and slander)
“Working with” is a stretch. We cosponsored a Rally Against Islamofascism with Terror Free Oil and Atlas Shrugs is our blog contributor. If by points you mean ‘we need to fight radical Islam’, then yes. If by points you mean ‘we need to fight radical Islam, you fucking bigot’, then no.
-Are you getting financial support? (if your non profit that should be public info)
Yes and it is
-Do you have links to Muslim groups based in the Mideast or Europe? If so what are their names?
We have our own members in the Middle East and Europe. We haven’t linked up with anyone yet. Most of Muslims who are organized, are organized by Islamists, so we’re not gonna be linking with those any time soon.
-How will you protect yourself from the radicals you will not doubt enrage?
By not revealing identities of the members
-Will you subordinate your Muslim beliefs to our Constitution? Will you conduct yourself as a cultural guest if you cannot assimilate, or work to change our laws to accommodate your faith.
Our (the emphasis on OUR) Muslim beliefs do not contradict anything in the constitution, therefore the question of subordination is irrelevant. We will absolutely not play a role of a cultural guest because we are a part of the societies where we live and assimilation is the only proper conduct.
-Are you practitioners in the medical field?
This information is not for public consumption
Does the American Liberal contact you? Do they recognize you?
Please clarify. Some entity named “American Liberal” or American liberals in general?
Most interesting to me is the point of your arguing your case here. Will you edit and use this thread elsewhere?
Wouldn’t it be easier just to provide a link. Except for a few grammatical mistakes, there is nothing I said here I wouldn’t repeat anywhere else.
Many premier blogs out there. What attracts you to us?
Pissing off a dumbass (and I don’t mean you this time) is a lot of fun. And when I need to sow proof of redneck Islamophobia, I can use this thread.
then its just the words that are dangerous, mash?
so are they like magic spells? i could see the danger in the islamic texts then. do the spells work if you say them in english, because i'm doing something wrong. the sta-puft marshmallow man has never come to destroy the earth whenever i say them.
is there a physical embodiment to this danger, or is muslims against sharia a more pathethic organization than i previously recognized? makes me wonder if you're against sharia, think you're against sharia, or against thinking about sharia.
The real question posed to Mash should be:
Do you have a life, and if so, why don't get another one on "second life" as kind of a hereafter . . .
Except for a few grammatical mistakes???
How about a few errors in passing judgement (and gas), some curse words used in the month of Ramadan to describe others, and showing true colors when pressed to impress, with a few outbursts of hysteria sprinkled here and there, as well as deliberate distortions of factual regurgitation.
In the meantime, shouldn't you instead worry about making yourself a better person first, and then allow people to discover your religion, and how righteous you are through the process of finding out about you via a non-missionary position?
While you're trying to use a thesaurus to find out what I really meant by the above, let me also congratulate you on raising the level of intolerance among the rednecks to the point beyond any reasonable efforts I displayed here over the year or so to at least deserve their respect.
Pissing off a dumbass (and I don’t mean you this time)
You finally managed to personally offend me.
wafflestomper,
“then its just the words that are dangerous, mash?
so are they like magic spells? i could see the danger in the islamic texts then.”
Why don’t you get off you fat ass, go t a mosque, and how those words turn into deeds, you fucking shit-for-brains.
so are the deeds a danger to extremist muslims? seems like their the safest ones in this whole affair. unless....
getting an answer out of you is like pulling teeth.
may i say you're a fine representative for your organization. couldn't ask for a better spokesperson.
It really don't get any better than this, does it RT? I've never seen anything as foul-hooked as this individual.
You're right wafflestomper. A truly fine representative of the Bottomfeeder species.
I told yall we'd have to kill all the "moderate" ones too.
What can you tell me about the crescent moon?
You'll be tested. It ain't just a symbol, ya know.
I told yall we'd have to kill all the "moderate" ones too.
I've a hard time telling which ones are more stupid, RT/ I'm wondering where the Dhimmi-r switch is on this dude.
RT: Don't let him fool you that he's a 'moderate.'
If he's a moderate, then I'm Hillary Clinton!
He's probably some wannabe Zionist dropout, who's pissed because he's not eligible to collect medicare for his ailment(s).
Did I miss the answer to my question of what becomes of the Saudi / Iranian oil we dont buy?
Most of Muslims who are organized, are organized by Islamists, so we’re not gonna be linking with those any time soon.
Bear with me MASh. What is the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist?
OT btu interesting
The Final Status of Jerusalem
The Israeli-Palestinian Declaration of Principles (DoP) signed September 13, 1993, leaves open the status of Jerusalem. Other than this agreement to discuss Jerusalem during the final negotiating period, Israel conceded nothing else regarding the status of the city during the interim period. Israel retains the right to build anywhere it chooses in Jerusalem and continues to exercise sovereignty over the undivided city. Meanwhile, the Palestinians maintain that Jerusalem should be the capital of an independent Palestinian state.
Jerusalem is one issue on which the views of Israelis are unanimous: The city must remain the undivided capital of Israel. Still, efforts have been made to find some compromise that could satisfy Palestinian interests. For example, one suggestion is to allow the Palestinians to set up their capital in a West Bank suburb of Jerusalem — Abu Dis.
U.S. Policy
Only two countries have embassies in Jerusalem — Costa Rica and El Salvador. Of the 184 nations with which America has diplomatic relations, Israel is the only one where the United States does not recognize the capital or have its embassy located in that city. The U.S. embassy, like most others, is in Tel Aviv, 40 miles from Jerusalem. The United States maintains a consulate in east Jerusalem that deals with Palestinians in the territories and works independently of the embassy, reporting directly to Washington. While Congress has voted to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, successive Presidents, the final arbiters of the nation's foreign policy, have refused to do so.
metin
I thought you must be 13 to enter this forum. I guess I was wrong. "you are a psycho with bad breath!" that's fucking priceless. And now I am also a Zionist? Not that there is anything wrong with being a Zionist.
"What is the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist?"
- Islamist (a.k.a., radical Muslim, fundamentalist Muslim, Islamofascist), is a Muslim who believes that Islam is the only true religion, and it must be the only religion in the world and this goal must be achieved by the way of waging Jihad. Non-Muslims have three options: convert to Islam, accept Dhimmi (semi-slave status) or die.
- Moderate Muslim (a.k.a., reform Muslim) is a Muslim who believes that religion is a private matter, i.e., it must not be mixed with politics or forced onto public.
Not moving their embassies to Jerusalem is just another example of the West appeasement of radical Muslims.
masH - How many extra pages did you add to your dictionary? Apparently just as many as you ripped out of your koran...
Merriam-Webster - Islamism function: noun
1 : the faith, doctrine, or cause of Islam
2 : a popular reform movement advocating the reordering of government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam
Merriam-Webster - Muslim function: noun
Etymology: Arabic muslim, literally, one who submits (to God)
1 : an adherent of Islam
2 : BLACK MUSLIM
So. You're busy pukin' out bogus definitions whilst I'm using an accepted dictionary. But you just go on and make.shit.up. Nobody here is gonna stop you.
Now. About that crescent moon. Is it made of goat cheese?
Their is scene in the movie 'The Godfather', where a would be drug lord sets up a meeting with the Godfather to discuss an arrangement to use the Godfather's political and underworld connections to set up a drug smuggling and distribution ring. The Godfather has no interest in drugs and for personal/moral reasons as he knows that drugs are a dirty business with no rules he can understand, yet he see's a potential new power that his family business will have to live with, and rub elbows with. So he, the Godfather, meets with the 'would be drug lord' out of respect and to inform him that their seperate interests do not have to conflict. Basically that they can live and prosper side by side together in peace. But the 'son' and 'heir' to the family business 'is' interested and betrays that interest with a specefic question about certain gurantee's.
An assination attempt upon the Godfather ensues. The goal is to eliminate the force that prevents a business arrangement (the Godfather), and open the door to deal with the interested party that will asume command (the son). The 'interested party' is now also a 'party of fear'.
I think it is safe to assume that fear provokes action even if you are afraid of an interests that an outside fear is provoking you towards.
Ruthless men of caliber have a way that escapes the mentality of Joe Blow. That 'way' is universal regardless of culture or idealogy. (IMHO)
Moderate Muslim (a.k.a., reform Muslim) is a Muslim who believes that religion is a private matter, i.e., it must not be mixed with politics or forced onto public.
Doc has already addressed that but I am giving you the benefit of doubt for the sake of argument.
I'd like to make some points about that and show you your dilemma.
We got a fucking government that thinks it's just A fucking OK to mandate public education knowing full well most/many cannot afford private education. Any potential private institutions will have to compete with the pubic institution for business. Try starting a business for profit across the street form a business that gives your product away..
Now consider what that public and secular progressive institution is teaching our children. For me it amounts to dhimmi mentality. That is what is across the isle of us here that you think so stupid. Are you aware of where you stand in this nation? I have to believe that your interests have nothing to do with the battles we are fighting on the home front. On the contrary, you seem to me just another special interest that will displace us another notch on the scale of multiculturalism and diversity.
Like it or not, your views of yourself and goals are patterned after your own special interests and will negatively impact our interests.
My claim to this nation is culture and tradition, not race but I am having second thoughts on that aspect. This nation is our inheritance to preserve and maintain. Surely you understand that only laws and force maintain anything made as the nature of man is selfishness that leads to violence regardless of what God he claims to follow.
Sorry but I am against any 'collective' that has beliefs and interests that are antagonistic to our culture, tradition and Constitution and the Quran has nothing in common with our freedoms unless you rewrite it acknowledging 'unalienable rights'' And define unalienable rights as a mantle Allah himself places upon our shoulders even while in the womb. What you seemingly propose about reform is an impossibility. You have no power over history, other Muslims, nor God himself as what we see is ordained. Weather by God or mans own nature makes no difference when believing the observable.
I am done here too but will follow this with interest.
Mashman:
Unlike you, I have respect for Dr. Zuhdi Jasser (who heads the group who supports US Airways against the 'Flying' Imams) who has this to say about 'faux moderate Muslims'
How long will it take Muslims to frontally counter Islamism (political Islam) and separate it from their Abrahamic religion of Islam?
It's the chicken or the egg question . . . or more like what Israel faces for being a 'Jewish' state with citizens who are 'Jewish' in one sense and 'Jewish' in another . . .
I can't wait until I'm 18 so I can finally vote for a candidate who vows to fight for a constitutional amendment to replace the word 'mashed' from the menu at Denny's to describe a certain side order of potato topped with 'sour' cream due to its unfortunate reminder of a certain lunatic parading around as a reformist . . .
You'd think we were playin' Fastpitch, but obviously we're not even playin' any more. So sad...
Cap'n DOC,
"Merriam-Webster - Islamism"
Welcome to the real world, read and learn, you ignorant fuck. http://www.americanthinker.com/
2..._muslims_t.html
dw
Most of your points are mirrored in our manifesto http://www.reformislam.org, yet, you are trying to convince me that your points are valid. I think the question “how fucking dumb are you?” is a legitimate one.
metin
“Unlike you, I have respect for Dr. Zuhdi Jasser”
If we had no respect for Dr. Jasser, why would we put him on the list of Prominent Moderate Muslim at http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...a.blogspot.com/
?
“How long will it take Muslims to frontally counter Islamism (political Islam) and separate it from their Abrahamic religion of Islam?”
I never said that, you fucking dumbshit.
Hey dumbshit: (mashed)
I never said that you said that! You would never even think to put together such a valid point!
The man who said that is the one you just announced you put on your list of prominent moderate Muslims. That quote was by Dr. Jasser.
So now you have someone on your list that you don't even agree with.
Now you've totally proven you're a hypocrite. But I always knew you were a poser, and an imbecile at that!
By the way, are you even here legally?
I gotta hand it to you metin. Fookin' stroke of genius. This dude can't control himself anymore. I think he's spinnin' to the left, now.
metin
"So now you have someone on your list that you don't even agree with."
When did I say I did not agree with that, you stupid fuck?
I think the question “how fucking dumb are you?” is a legitimate one.
Awe come on man! I was trying very hard to asess my own stupidity according to your last illigitimate inquiry, but now you went and inquired again with legitimacy? And this time you injected a verb before 'dumb' and totally fucked me up.
Holy Cow this Muslim/Islamic moderate/extreme tomato/tomato shit is just to complex for me.
Fuck you, I'm goin to Kansas.
OK! I sought spiritual guidence concerning your question over the drgree of how fucking dumb I am and came to the conclusion that it was in fact a legitimate question that I have never really properly tried to answer. Therefore, the next time I am fucking I am going to seriously contemplte it. Thank you
Hey "Mr. I know how and when to use the word 'fuck' as many times as I feel like it even during the month of ramadan since i am a muslim against sharia man":
Here's what else Zuhdi Jasser said:
"Any mixture of the Muslim faith community with a specific political agenda of an individual or an organization (whether in domestic or foreign policy) is a bad idea."
and by the way, you need to make up your mind. Either you are for political Islam, as the one Dr. Jasser denounces, or for the abrahamic religion of Islam that you choose to be against...will the real mash potato stand up...
Jasser also adds:
"The rejection of Islamism as a political ideology – Simply being “anti-terror” does not make a Muslim necessarily moderate in the American context. It simply gives him a seat at the table of humanity. Political moderation within the Muslim community is manifested most significantly in a rejection of political Islam (anti-Islamism)"
Since I agree with him and myself have rejected political Islam, you called me a non-Muslim and that I should leave my religion.
You're really a moron. But only you can't see it. Do you have any mirrors in the cardboard box you live in in the cornfields. Or do they all have cracks in it like all of your theories.
Shall I go on: (Your hero also said
"To acknowledge that much of current Islamic jurisprudence (sharia) is in dire need of ijtihad (reform) and being brought into the 21st century and modernity with a focus on liberty."
Yes he didn't say Muslims should be against Sharia. He said shariah needed reform! Do you even know what shariah is?
You might as well form an organization called, "Muslims against Islam!"
You remind me of a Jew who denounces Israel for its policies. And the good citizens of Israel tell this man to denounce Judaism, instead of simply take away his citizenship. Confusing Judaism with being Jewish.???
dw,
You're welcome. You don’t strike me as particularly bright, but you seem to be honest. I have one question for you. Did you actually read our manifesto before you asked all those questions?
metin
"Any mixture of the Muslim faith community with a specific political agenda of an individual or an organization (whether in domestic or foreign policy) is a bad idea."
"The rejection of Islamism as a political ideology – Simply being “anti-terror” does not make a Muslim necessarily moderate in the American context. It simply gives him a seat at the table of humanity. Political moderation within the Muslim community is manifested most significantly in a rejection of political Islam (anti-Islamism)"
"To acknowledge that much of current Islamic jurisprudence (sharia) is in dire need of ijtihad (reform) and being brought into the 21st century and modernity with a focus on liberty."
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser
“Islam, in its present form, is not compatible with principles of freedom and democracy.”
“Sharia Law must be abolished, because it is incompatible with norms of modern society.”
“Religion is the private matter of every individual. Any person should be able to freely practice any religion as long as the practice does not interfere with the local laws, and no person must be forced to practice any religion. Just as people are created equal, there is no one religion that is superior to another. Any set of beliefs that is spread by force is fundamentally immoral; it is no longer a religion, but a political ideology.”
Muslims Against Sharia
I dare you to find me a single contradiction, you degenerate fuck.
You never answered the most important question: what stops you from leaving Islam if you are embarrassed of being Muslim?
Armchair Patriots!
Most of you here look like you are ready to defend America form Muslim scum, which leads me to believe that you consider yourselves patriots. Every one of you is probably driving around in a car (more likely pick-up or tractor) with a little flag or a little yellow ribbon that says “We Support Our Troops!” But do you, really? I will give you an opportunity to prove your support.
It has nothing to do with “Muslims Against Sharia” or our sinister little plot to take over your precious homeland.
Here’s a few facts, that you can easily verify; I wouldn’t expect you to trust a Muslim. After all Taqiyya is in our blood.
Fact: More than 4,000 American troops died in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last few years. (Source: DOD)
Fact: Majority of those deaths are attributed to IEDs (roadside bombs.) (Source: DOD)
Fact: Deadliest IEDs are manufactured in Iran. (Source: DOD)
Fact: Royal Dutch Shell, PLC does a lot of business with Iran, including, recently signed, $10,000,000,000 contract. That’s 10 billion with a “B.”
Conclusion: Shell is partly responsible for thousands of dead Americans.
If you consider yourself patriots, you can do two things. You can stop using Shell and spread the word about shell’s bloody oil. You can also go to http://www.bankruptterror.org/
pr...ition_shell.php and ask Shell to stop helping Iran murder Americans. This is your chance to show real patriotism. Does it matter that the suggestion came from a wicked Muslim? Facts are facts, doesn’t matter who provided them. So, let’s see how many of you have something more than a big mouth.
Hey Mashman:
I choose to blame Muslims, and not Islam for my religion.
And I choose to practice Islam as a non-Muslim in your sense of the word.
That's the same as you saying you'll practice Islam without Sharia!
And next time you call me a 'degenerate fuck' I'll personally send a troop of skinheads to bust your ass so wide open that you would need a toilet bigger than the state of Nebraska to shit in!
Go Fuck a Goat! Or better yet, from the usage of the word Fuck in so many sentences, I get the impression you haven't had any.
I wonder if you can afford therapy. Let me guess, you were abused as a child.
By the way, do you pray five times a day? And where in your Muslim manifesto do you see the usage of the word 'fuck' to get your point across?
Are you this intelligent when the visiting hours are over too? Or do they lock you up in a hole 23 hours of the day?
Do you even know who Shell is?
Or should I say, Do you go Dutch?
The hour of judgment shall not happen until the Muslims fight the Jews.
The Muslims shall kill the Jews to the point that the Jew shall hide behind a big rock or a tree and the rock or tree shall call on the Muslim saying: hey, O Muslim there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him, except the Gharqad tree which will not say, for it is the tree of Jews.
In the beginning of this thread, I actually was embarrassed for you as a Muslim.
Now I would be the first to lock you up in a stall in a certain bathroom in the Minneapolis airport.
So long as Islam has Muslims such as you in it, it will fail miserably. That makes me laugh harder, but not enough to leave my religion. You see, I see you as a challenge. A challenge to stimulate my funny bones every time I read your copy/paste rant.
"our sinister little plot to take over your precious homeland"
How long have you been in "our' country?
It's 'us' versus 'you'?
Become an American first!
Now one of your brothers have come to play. And he's talking to the trees. And the funny thing is that the tree is talking back.
Sharia is an Islamic law; it demands the society to be governed by Islamic law, which makes it political Islam. A fucking degenerate like you who claims that he is against political Islam but that Sharia should not be discarded makes no sense. Your pathetic threats might work on your boyfriend after you’re done felching him, you little bitch, but do you really think I would be scared of some shitstain like you? What’s with the delusions of grandeur and pathological projection?
I thought Ahmadinejad said there were no gays in Iran!
Why don't you go back to where you came from and change Shariah there . . .instead of abusing "our" freedoms and rights for shitheads like you.
Because of the likes of you, "our" civil liberties are being taken away asshole!
You are the problem. Why don't you pack your shit and leave "us" alone to swim in our own misery.
If all religions are equal, then why don't you switch to another, instead of trying to change the one you're in. Wouldn't it be easier? Or do you look for challenges also?
When did I say I didn't want Shariah discarded fuckface?
You want Islam without Sharia! I want Islam without you as a Muslim!
Do you know how to read between the lines, or should I fill in the blanks!
Did you actually read our manifesto before you asked all those questions?
Yes, and I suspect that everybody here would hate the word manifesto! Where are reading to enlighten yourself? 'Mission Statement' is a much better cover.
Somebody pleaze come here and kick my ass if I comment on this thread one more time. As dumb as I am this guy is transparant.
metin
"Muslims Against Shariah sounds like Jews against Kosher!"
"When did I say I didn't want Shariah discarded"
Care to reconcile these two statements, you degenerate fuck?
dw,
“Yes, and I suspect that everybody here would hate the word manifesto!”
by now you probably noticed how much I care what everybody hates, but it’s besides the point. The point is why the hell do you keep asking questions that are answered in our manifesto or trying to convince me of something that is already stated there? If your points are present in the manifesto, don’t you think I already agree with them?
Hey Mashfuck!
I came to the sudden conclusion that it doesn't make sense to have a logical argument with the likes of you, hopefully only you. I'll leave you alone in the lion's den!
Why don't you wrap a suicide bomb around your waist area and pull the trigger near your headquarters, in the middle of Nowhere, Nebraska.
And so the only casualty will be just you. You can then piss off the 72 virgins as they pull your pants down and discover that (it) was blown off to pieces during the suicide bombing . . .
Good Luck with your disorganization!
Ahmed Alzaree - Sorry to bust your bubble, but I believe that colorful bit of prose is some of what they want to excise from the koran. Haven't figured out yet why they just haven't set it aside, but they're bound and determined to eat their words.
Somebody pleaze come here and kick my ass if I comment on this thread one more time.
dw - I believe I told you upthread that the AssHat was well-hooked. I also told a little story about missionaries comin' to the door, and how I invited them in to let them attempt to convince me of the unbelievable with their raging zeal. That's these dudes to a T, dw! You're doin' just fine! MOF, don't be offended by their ill-use of their own tongues - after all, you knew up front that they don't like you very much, so very little has changed.
MOF - dw - you owe me a flat panel monitor. That line of yours caused me to spew java...
Since its obvious you're unwilling to answer my question about what happens to the "Terror Oil" we dont buy...... let me ask you why you think it is that AQ has been known to target Saudi oil industry infrastructure?
In fact I think they recently called for Jihad on Saudi oil installations.
Why would they want to cut off their supposed cash cow?
Is it just a coincidence that you and AQ both want us to stop buying Saudi oil? Or are you just too much of a dumbass to notice the correlation?
Islamic terrorist also recieve a ton of funding from Muslims living / working in the infidel west.......... got any ideas how we can stop that? ..... I do.
Have you considered the legal ramifications of a US based organization putting a bounty on the head of a foreign national?
Cause if its legal.....
Start bringing me the heads of Muslims.
.... I hereby put a $1.49 a head bounty on every Muslim caught burning the American Flag.
$5.75 for each Islamic Cleric's tongue.
$2.79 for each fat Muslim bitch caught dancing in the street while ululating after an attack on America....video proof required for payment.
For all other Muslims we can negotiate a price per ton on delivery.
RT
"what happens to the "Terror Oil" we dont buy"
It would eventually get sold, but at much lower price.
"why you think it is that AQ has been known to target Saudi oil industry infrastructure?"
When you are able to insert the word "successfully" in that sentence, we'll come back to that question.
"Why would they want to cut off their supposed cash cow?"
Al-Qaeda wants to re-shuffle power-sharing in the Saudi royal family, to give more power to more radical princes, hence all this noise; but it is mostly noise with no action.
"Is it just a coincidence that you and AQ both want us to stop buying Saudi oil? Or are you just too much of a dumbass to notice the correlation?"
Al-Qaeda wants to decrease Saudi government's control over Saudi clergy, we want to decrease Saudi government's control of the West. Just because the means are similar it doesn't mean the goals are similar. If Osama likes to get it up the ass from a camel and you like to get it up the ass from a donkey, it doesn't make you a terrorist mastermind.
"Islamic terrorist also recieve a ton of funding from Muslims living / working in the infidel west.......... got any ideas how we can stop that?"
When an idea of internment comes from Michelle Malkin, it makes some sense, even though I would not agree with her on the subject. When it comes from you, it reeks of attack dogs and gas chambers. There is a nazi camp guard being deported right now; I wander how closely you are related. As for a practical idea on how to stop it, I would institute 100% ban on financial transactions (either direct or indirect) with certain countries and send to Gitmo anyone who attempts to go around the ban.
The third part is duplicated on our blog and your idiotic display of bigotry is addressed there. In case you don’t read it, I’d like to know what your feelings are about fat Christian bitches who burn American flags.
He will never acknowledge you point RT He story is that we are creating and supporting the radicals and he is sticking to it. If they go mainstream they will join the Socialist and be loved by the MSM and they just might get very rich. They must know something we do not concerning the response of the fanatic.
As far a reforming Islam?
Deal with them? You mean tell us how to deal with them? You have a vision of leading the West on a crusade? I doan thiunbk so. You want some grant money? You wanna be pork.
You want the real American's to help you? Or just the one's that wandered in for the benifits and are American solely due to their geographical location that affords them our freedons of which they hate when we practice them. Where do you stand on the Mexican invasion? The pedophilia lobby? The culture war?
Have you noticed that RT proves his beleifs in free speech on his blog daily? Are you not impressed that you can say what ever you want here. Yea, neither are third world cespool nations impressed with the money, aid and technology we give or they steal. If we hamstring one of their enemies it gurantees no help or support in any way that can be relied upon.
We all well know that we can only trust and rely upon ourselves. But we got monkeys all over our backs here at home. So climb on buddy, what the hell.
As far as them reforming Islam?
Muslims Against Sharia said...
Plateau,
There is a better chance of convincing a wolf to become a vegetarian than convincing radical Muslims (religious fanatics) to give up Jihad. However, if the West stopped supporting radical Muslims at home and abroad, we could deal with them.
September 24, 2007 6:03 PM
"...Your pathetic threats might work on your boyfriend after you’re done felching him,..."I had to look up that word. It appears that felching is a word used by (queers, is what my generation calls them} gays, and they are the only ones who would even know of that word, or know what it means.
Have you guys hooked a gay guy? I know he has a nasty mouth, must be all those ***** he has sucked.
Jeez, this blog is firing on all cylinders.
Papa Ray
Cap’n, I’d just cut the line. You really don’t want that hook back now.
Thanks PR..... I figured it was some kind of inside faggot joke, but I wasn't sure.
It would eventually get sold, but at much lower price.
I guess you've never heard of the concept of supply and demand. That oil would go into the commodities market at the same price as other Saudi oil. China, Japan, or India would pick it up immediately.
When you are able to insert the word "successfully" in that sentence, we'll come back to that question.
Yeah right......the Saudis have successfully thwarted several attempts on their oil terminals...using your asinine logic I guess all the terrorist plots we thwart dont reflect on the terrorists intent.....because they were not "Successful".
See the best thing we have going for us is the terrorists are all ignorant Muslims Fuck-ups like you.
Al-Qaeda wants to re-shuffle power-sharing in the Saudi royal family, to give more power to more radical princes, hence all this noise; but it is mostly noise with no action.
Right.... like they want to give Abdullah a reason to have them beheaded. Where did you learn that at Daily Kos?
I would institute 100% ban on financial transactions
Hmm... I dont know.....I think I like the internment camps idea better. Your idea doesn't stop them from carrying out attacks here.....mine does. What do yet bet the first time a dirty bomb goes off in an American city we go with my plan not yours? And just like in WW2....it will be for your protection.
But I have to admit I wasn't sure if you were going to let that comment be published at your so-called blog. How many hours did it take to show up there. Still I cant help but notice that every article currently on the front page has garnered zero comments, and I know your getting a ton of hits from all the trolling your doing and from the Gateway Pundit, Dean's World, and Atlas Shrugs plugs. I wonder why no one is commenting there?
...I’d just cut the line. You really don’t want that hook back now.
Do you know what rusty treble hooks cost these days?
The shredded lips look so good on him...
RT I'd like to hear your whole guess of what these boys are really about.
Well shit DW..... your guess is as good as mine.
I'm not sure how much you can really tell about them, as an organization, from this individual's comments here.
He's certainly unique. Its kind of difficult to argue with him, in that we're on the same page, for the most part, about Radical Islam. I dont have a problem with anything in their Manifesto, other than the fact it sets unrealistic goals, and suggests financial support will help achieve them.
But he sees the issues through the eyes of a westernized Muslim, he sees "good" in Islam when it aint really there, and I think that somewhat clouds his judgment when it comes to accepting how widespread the support for, to one degree or another, Sharia is in the Muslim world.
Muslims, or at least Arabs and Persian Muslims, have proven incapable of achieving freedom and Democracy on there own, but everywhere an external power has shed blood to provide them with the freedom to choose their own form of government.... they choose to incorporate at least some elements of Islamic law into it, and are overly influenced by their Clerics when they are given access to the ballot box. The Clerics have more power over a society that adheres to Sharia, and they seem to have control over the people's voting habits.
I think we tend to underestimate the percentage of Iranians that honestly support the Theocracy....how many Pashtuns preferred the Taliban...... How many Egyptians would vote for the Muslim Brotherhood if they were allowed to. I think if the entire Muslim world could vote their conscience there would be more Islamic theocracies than there are today, a fact which I think the terrorist masterminds understand better than either our political leadership, or the reformist Muslims do. It even appears to me that most Muslim women, in the middle east, prefer to live their lives under the veil of Islamic law.
Its a belief "system" DW.... Islam is a product of Arab cultural values...... you know if we, as children, had been taught, like generations before us had, that our role in society was to organize into bands of raiding parties and exterminate neighboring cultures and take over their lands.....we wouldn't think there's nothing wrong with that.
Many past cultures have taken that exact approach only to have their expansion stopped either by internal splits or they run across a superior culture that whips their ass.
Thats where Islam is today. It has expanded into the cultures it could (Northern Africa, SE ASIA), but now its fuckin with one that can whip its ass, and their killing more of each other than they are infidels.
As far as MASh goes, on a personal level, he's just an ignorant prick caught in a bad ideological spot. He knows there's no chance of truly reforming his fellow adherents in the Islamic motherland....he knows they're eventually going to commit an act in Allah's name that will put him and his family here in danger. But at least he's on record as having publicly condemned the justification his fellow adherents will use, although he stills tries to shift some of the blame for that inevitable attack on the west, to the economic policies of the United States.....something else he knows are not going to change.
What makes him unique is his rare combination of militant Koranic Islamophobia and immature leftist thought processes. He's at war with his own belief system. He wants to cherry pick which tenets of Islam he subscribes to...... and if he can make a few bucks doing it, he'll be happy. He cant openly spout his POVs on the Nebraskan street without either the local Rednecks or the local Muslims kicking his ass, so he's kinda diggin this opportunity to anonymously feign both intellectual superiority and conviction in his own manhood.
He's like an AZ with his own blog..... He probably wont make many friends in the internment camp.
RT: I agree with everything on how you summed it up.
Mash, in my opinion, is like a bad salesman selling a good product. I often come across those when I say to myself. You've got a great product, too bad you're the one selling it. And I move on.
They need to keep a leash on him. He might actually cause more harm than good!
As for me, I am totally not up to the task. I too understand my weaknesses, And I wouldn't want that job. So don't look to me as a representative of 'good' Islam.
I am just a recovering Muslimholic . . .
He cant openly spout his POVs on the Nebraskan street without either the local Rednecks or the local Muslims kicking his ass, so he's kinda diggin this opportunity to anonymously feign both intellectual superiority and conviction in his own manhood.
Well, RT... He ain't exactly proved he's in Nebraska either, IMHO. Let's just say he's up to his 'ears' in a dilemma of his own construction. And he did that without any help from any of us, although he'd like to blame us for all of his ills - to include his very foul mouth. A real zealot. Give the poor dog a bone and show him the bottoms of your White's.
I kinna like his arogance. Name callin doan bother me unless I want it to. That's my sense of fairness as I like to call names myself. I hope he doesn't start sumptum we can't forsee. I'd like to hear some more opinions about these boys just in case they have some stayin power.
Well, dw... - You ask. We provide. The following is from a 'mohammedan' whose name is currently upfront in the news. This was an interview with her. Of course, I have no clue how masH feels about women, since he can't answer simple fookin' questions. Note well what Hirsi Ali has to say about these guys and their perspective.
I guess she makes my point, dw, and even the one I made about the visiting missionaries: Once 'they' lose a devoted advocate to GOOD logic, they tend to go blind when it comes to confronting good logic of any kind. And I mean that in a literal sense.
Kindalike the admonition that the words are for those who hear.
“You want the real American's to help you?”
Absolutely, unfortunately I see none of them here.
“Where do you stand on the Mexican invasion?” Why would you want to ask a Muslim, who you don’t even trust on Islamic issues, such a question?
“The pedophilia lobby?” I think they should all be in prison for promoting pedophilia, but who’s going to bail you out next time?
“The culture war?” If you’re referring to the issue as framed by O’Reilly, I don’t think I would disagree with any of his points
“Have you noticed that RT proves his beleifs in free speech on his blog daily?”
No, but I noticed that he is full of shit. He implied that we censored his comments on our blog.
“It appears that felching is a word used by (queers, is what my generation calls them} gays, and they are the only ones who would even know of that word, or know what it means.”
Papa Ray’s severely limited vocabulary and bigoted conclusions reflect a true degenerate homophobe, a lot of whom are closet homosexuals. Papa Ray, next time your cousin fucks you in the ass, wash his dick before sucking it.
“I think I like the internment camps idea better.” Why because you can finally implement your streamlined design for a high-capacity gas chamber? I bet you, fuckheads, hate the Jews just as much as you hate the Muslims, only hating the Jews is not very fashionable these days.
“How many hours did it take to show up there.”
Sorry, I didn’t know that we have to constantly watch our blog for comments from the Great RT.
“Its kind of difficult to argue with him”
Why? Making up bullshit and try to negate facts isn’t working for you anymore?
“ignorant prick caught in a bad ideological spot.”
With you “vast” base of knowledge, you are hardly in a position to call anyone ignorant. We’ll I take it back. Compare to most of this blog’s contributors are a fucking genius. I bet you can break 80 on a good day on IQ test.
“militant Koranic Islamophobia and immature leftist thought processes”
Care to provide an example of either?
“and if he can make a few bucks doing it, he'll be happy”
I’m certainly not expecting those few bucks from you. The money that you can get for your old tractor probably wouldn’t even cover the postage.
“I am just a recovering Muslimholic”
That would make you an ex-Muslim, you degenerate fuck. Get your bullshit story straight: you’re either Muslim or you are not, dipshit.
“diggin this opportunity to anonymously feign both intellectual superiority and conviction in his own manhood.”
Trust me, Cap’n DIC, intellectual superiority over you ain’t much of an achievement.
“He ain't exactly proved he's in Nebraska either”
Why should I? I never claimed I was in Nebraska. Look up a concepts of PO Boxes and VPNs.
“The following is from a 'mohammedan' whose name is currently upfront in the news.”
Is it really a stretch to call Cap’n DIC a dumbfuck when even the title of Ali’s book is “Infidel”, meaning NOT a Muslim? And for a dumbshit with no logic, you’re sure using that word a lot.
I’m still waiting to find out what any of you, armchair patriots, are going to do next time some fat Christian bitch burns American flags.
Mashish:
You Still Here?
Try not use an alcoholic mouthwash!!!
And by the way, if you are a Muslim, I am Houdini!
try to make yourself disappear!
Oh one last question:
Do you dress up as the 'Invisible Woman' on Halloween Night?
Papa Ray’s severely limited vocabulary and bigoted conclusions reflect a true degenerate homophobe, a lot of whom are closet homosexuals. Papa Ray, next time your cousin fucks you in the ass, wash his dick before sucking it.
Papa Ray is well known and respected here, as well as on other premier blogs. Some of which you clain endorse you.
“Where do you stand on the Mexican invasion?” Why would you want to ask a Muslim, who you don’t even trust on Islamic issues, such a question?
I think this thread is full. It only accepts portions of my commnts.
I think this thread is full. It only accepts portions of my commnts.
Don't worry, dw - I'll fill in the blanks for you.Sooooo, masH. Ayaan Hirsi Ali ain't a mohammedan?
Hmmmm. That's strange. I ain't even gonna bother posting a link for your sorry foul-mouthed self. Of course, I used Dogpile, but you're prolly concerned about depending upon a dog to do your look-ups for you. Just look up the highlighted name above in Wikipedia using whichever browser you feel comfortable with (and by all means avoid a Google search), and you'll find this:
She considered herself a Muslim until 28 May 2002...
Methinks you speak like a dog and little tiny turds keep dribbling out of your mouth!
As for the rest of your Mish-masH, I really can't see anything else worth refuting! You're so far out in left field that I'd almost have to believe you've hooked up with Code Pink or some like-minded group of - women. Which reminds me - Have you beat your wife lately?
Why should I? I never claimed I was in Nebraska.
Hmmmm. Let's move upthread, shall we?
Nebraska is the best place for NGO headquarters, just as Delaware is the best place for corporate headquarters. There are standard packages that include registered agents and Nebraska has the lowest prices.
Dang! I knew you said that! Are you related to the Father of all lies, or do you just enjoy makin' shit up with your fingers crossed?
RT! I've one rusty treble hook and some six pound test invested in this little fishing trip. I've got 'em by the lips (shredded as they are), you've got 'em by the tail, metin has 'em by the gills, and dw - got himself a dorsal fin, or at least a goodly chunk of it.
I'm really lookin' forward to the next move by this Bottomfeeder... You're definitely the slimiest, scaliest Mudsucker I've seen since we quit grabbin' the turnips as they fell off the truck!
Good man Doc. I looked for that 'lie' too an couldn't remember where it was. I think RT like to lays low to see what we do and then jumps in with what we miss. I know RT's has his radar on the crusaders 'geographical lies'.
RT said;
First off....Why is your home office in Nebraska?
MASh replied;
Nebraska is the best place for NGO headquarters, just as Delaware is the best place for corporate headquarters. There are standard packages that include registered agents and Nebraska has the lowest prices.
“He ain't exactly proved he's in Nebraska either”
MASh replied;
Why should I? I never claimed I was in Nebraska. Look up a concepts of PO Boxes and VPNs.
Doc said;
Hmmmm. Let's move upthread, shall we?
Nebraska is the best place for NGO headquarters, just as Delaware is the best place for corporate headquarters. There are standard packages that include registered agents and Nebraska has the lowest prices.
Looks better when all put together. Gives my "fucking dumbass'" a semse of, ... uh, .. awe shit! What's a good intellegent word 'dooh!'
.....as a general rule, I dont like to give out ANYONE's, friend or foes, geographical information, unless they first propagate it themselves, like most people here have over time. The lone exception being our ol' buddy at Berkeley.
...... But as far as this jerk off and his "VPN" bluff goes....if he aint in Nebraska, he can damn sure see it from there.
...... I'm pretty certain he's not offshore, if thats what you have in mind.
As far as Nebraska being a haven for NGOs, due to cheaper registered agents..... I cant find any evidence to support that....... but really dont give a shit enough to thoroughly check it out.
MAS (muslim ass sucking) must have a large set of silicone boobs to keep coming here after outing himself as a butt sucker with a Freudian slip. I wonderin why with a foul mouth like his y’all are honoring his request to add an ‘h’ to his nic. Oh, that must be ass sucking in hell, my bad.
Shit, California Mike... Do you want any piece of this action?
I just reread this AssHat's last contribution to the dialogue, and I'll have to say RT - he's got nothing but niceties to pass on to you -
No, but I noticed that he is full of shit.
Wow, RT!!! Who knew?
Yah, masH, we're all full of shit - and you're a ToiletMouth, so open up.
Mike, tha's be me your referring to bout the 'h'. I am not as sharp as u guys. other than that I am not sure why I respescted his request. I omly know he is a part of, or linked to, everything I hate or fear.
dw
"Papa Ray is well known and respected here, as well as on other premier blogs."
You call THIS blog premier? Is this an attempt to blow some smoke up RT’s ass? Or are your standards THAT low?
“Where do you stand on the Mexican invasion?”
I have nothing against Mexicans per se. However, illegal aliens are criminals by definition and any crime must not go unpunished. The only reason that majority of illegals are Mexicans is geographic proximity. Political situation with illegal aliens in the USA is very similar to situation with radical Islam. Racist groups like LaRaza (which literally means race) claim to represent all Latinos, have all the money and are embraced by dumbshit politicians. Groups like ‘You don’t Speak for Me’ are virtually unknown and Latinos who think that illegals are criminals have no voice. PC-BS rules! When it comes to illegal alien Latinos, dumbass rednecks (and I am just assuming here) do not understand the difference between legal Latino immigrants or Latino US citizens and illegal Latino aliens, but have no problems with illegal aliens from Europe. And when I refer to US citizens, I’m not counting anchor babies, because the 14th Amendment is clearly being misused.
Cap’n DIC
“She considered herself a Muslim until 28 May 2002”
Talk to Mr. Clinton, maybe he can enlighten you on the difference between “IS” and “WAS”.
“Why should I? I never claimed I was in Nebraska.”
If you do not understand a concepts of “incorporation”, “register agent”, or ‘PO Box”, look them up. We also have a PO Box in Sweden, among other places.
I realize that for you puny little brain it might be a difficult task to grasp it, but I assure you that you can open PO Boxes in Beijing and San Paulo at the same time and still won’t have to be torn in half. In fact, you don’t even have to leave your swamp (or whatever shithole you reside in) as long as you have a phone line.
dw
“I looked for that 'lie' too an couldn't remember where it was.”
I didn’t think you were as dumb as Cap’n DIC. I was wrong and I apologize.
Talk to Mr. Clinton, maybe he can enlighten you on the difference between “IS” and “WAS”.
Funny you should mention that, PooPooMouth. Seems to me as how I remember something about 'Once a mohammedan, always a mohammedan'. But hey - that's just me, and Im certain you're older and wiser than myself on such matters.
...but I assure you that you can open PO Boxes in Beijing and San Paulo...Beijing? Ain't you afraid of Lead Poisoning?
But just for grins, why don't you give us the PO Box for your sorry outfit in Beijing?Heh. Didn't think so.
/Is it noon yet? I'll not have a beer before it's time.
Moose Drool anyone?
California Mike
You must know a lot about Muslim ass sucking, or any other ass sucking for that matter. After all you’ re from California, a home to the Gay capital of the US. Not that anything’s wrong with being gay.
dw
“I omly know he is a part of, or linked to, everything I hate or fear.”
Bigotry is a manifestation of irrational hate and fear fed by ignorance. If you educate yourself on the subject, it might just go away. The following reading materials are highly recommended:
American Jihad by Steven Emerson, a Jew
http://www.amazon.com/American-J...91604799&sr=8-
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Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam by Robert Spencer, a Christian
http://www.amazon.com/Politicall...91604836&sr=1-
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Now They Call Me Infidel by Nonie Darwish, a Muslim
http://www.amazon.com/Now-They-C...91604867&sr=1-
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I realize that those are actual books. They contain many big words and not many pictures, but you still should try to read them.
California Mike!!! - You asked for it, you got it. So... Which piece of this sorry fish that's left are you interested in? There really ain't much lip left, and he's apparently run out of farts.
'Once a mohammedan, always a mohammedan'
A rather clever interpretation of the original expression, which Cap’n DIC’s cousin dad tattooed on his forehead, “Once a cocksucker, always cocksucker.”
“But just for grins, why don't you give us the PO Box for your sorry outfit in Beijing?”
And before you, dumbshits, accuse me of misleading you, Beijing was given as a hypothetical example, not as actual location.
Hell Cap’n since it’s a bottom feeder just skin it with some pliers and I’ll nail it to the shed. Flies gotta eat too.
A rather clever interpretation of the original expression...
Glad you liked it. So tell me, PoopieMouth, what does one become if one is no longer a mohammedan? BTW, that's a trick question.
Beijing was given as a hypothetical example, not as actual location.So. You don't have an office in Beijing? WHo knew? MOF, who fookin' cares? But give me a PO Box, please. Something in the 67,68 or 69 zips would be my guess, but then I realize you may not be in Kansas any more, TOTO.
243....... Looks like I'm gonna have to update the sidebar.
Well, I'm gonna go 'over the top' then, RT. I just keep finding these awesome bits of information, and can't help but put them up here...
So - masH!!! Quit suckin' on that hookah long enough to look at this view of 'moderate' mohammedanism, or the myth that such a thing actually exists.
WARNING! Click your Ruby Red Carpet Slippers together and sit on your rug before reading.
Looks like I'm gonna have to update the sidebar.Who/What is that freak?
Thats the best I could find on short notice.
Cap’n DIC
“look at this view of 'moderate' mohammedanism, or the myth that such a thing actually exists.”
Any reason I should consider opinion of a “civilian” over the opinion of a professional?
Any reason I should consider opinion of a “civilian” over the opinion of a professional?
Professional what? PooPooSlingin'?
Knock yourself out there, PooPooMouth.
To be sure however, you'd better post a link that actually works before extolling the virtues of the hourglass.
Bigotry is a manifestation of irrational hate and fear fed by ignorance.
And a dollar is a user bearer instrument. You can spend it even if it ain yours.
If you do not understand a concepts of “incorporation”, “register agent”, or ‘PO Box”, look them up.
You know damn well that the physical location of your group would help us to make asesments. That is also what you are hiding from us while denying you understand what we are asking. I have seen many Asians and Mexicans that speak english very well become confused and don't know what you are talking about when they do not want to answer a direct question.
You call THIS blog premier?
My comment differentiated between 'this site' and 'premier site'. For a cheap shot you read what you wanted. BTW for me this is the only site I frequent anymore. I personally consider it premier and if not for it, I would not only be fooled by you, I would prolly not even care.
American Jihad by Steven Emerson, a Jew
I read the reviews. Here are a few snips.
There is nothing benign about Islamic fundamentalism, as shown by many assassinations of its opponents, even if those opponents are moderate Muslims.
If your were what you say you are your a gonner in this nation either by your own buds, or your fellow Americans when they take a hit for giving you safe havan. They can barely contain themselves over our support foir the Jews as it is.
Found a bud for you in the reviews though.
I am Christian and have been living in the vast Arab world for sixty three years, my admiration and confidence in my Muslim friends never faltered nor will it begin to slip based on the present threats of extremists from any faith. The Good will continue to outnumber the Evil by leaps and bounds.
Couldn't post but wanted to comment;
When the radicals come to your neighborhood your Muslim friends will be in worse shape that you should they openly present you with the same respect as their own faith. You pretty sue no one/everyone will not tell them about you and where you live? Terrorism has great sucess at getting what it wants rom is own getting what it wants from it's own. Your an honest Christian? Was that an Islamophobic asessment? I more believe you are Muslim schill.
Thats the best I could find on short notice.
Candidate 2
Candidate 3
Aren't there Federal Laws against 'mail fraud.' By having a PO Box in Nebraska, and accepting 'bad' checks in the mail from 'disillusioned' Muslims, the FBI should have a field day investigating . . .
Maybe we can all go visit Mash in Supermax where he tries to convince the Black Muslims that they need give up their ways and join the Muslim moderation brother-hood!
Maybe we can all go visit Mash in Supermax where he tries to convince the Black Muslims that they need give up their ways and join the Muslim moderation brother-hood!
Your so cruel meten
Cap’n DIC
“Professional what?” Dr. Daniel Pipes
dw
“You know damn well that the physical location of your group would help us to make asesments.” Yes, it would. However, satisfying your curiosity or helping you make your assessments are not that high on the list of my priorities. Sorry. Let’s agree that we are located in the Northern Hemisphere. “That is also what you are hiding from us”, believe me, I couldn’t care less if you knew my whereabouts. It’s some of my coreligionists I am concerned with. “denying you understand what we are asking.” I think I answered every question that made sense. Post a list of questions that I didn’t answer and I will. How can you possibly compare this site with AtlasShrugs? It’s like comparing that lawnmower that Cap’n DIC rides with Ford GT. “Here are a few snips.” If this is for my benefit, I don’t need it, I read the book. “They can barely contain themselves over our support foir the Jews as it is.” And when I ever said that I did not support the Jews? “The Good will continue to outnumber the Evil by leaps and bounds.” I think that might be a bit of a stretch, but I hope to make his illusion a reality. “Your an honest Christian? Was that an Islamophobic asessment? I more believe you are Muslim schill.” I’m sure there is a question somewhere here, but I fail to see it.
California Mike
Either one of your boyfriends look like they would make an excellent wife out of you.
(m)cretin
“Aren't there Federal Laws against 'mail fraud.'” “accepting 'bad' checks” I don’t think you need to have a law degree to understand that accepting bad checks is not a crime. However, a cretin who claims that he is ashamed to be a Muslim, probably wouldn’t know it.
It’s some of my coreligionists I am concerned with.
Afraid to be a martyr for your cause? Sounds like an insecurity on your part, masH. If I might be so bold as to suggest you study your religion and 'coreligionist's' agenda a bit more 'in depth'. You tote that crescent moon & peace symbol on your shirt whilst you're on your crusade - I'm sure it will stand you in good stead.
Cap'n, you and the rest here seem to be able (and all too willing) to continue your futile (yet entertaining) attempts at snagging for good, this despicable mudcat.
He is much too slimy and cunning to be brought into the boat, and even if you did land him, you would just throw him back in disgust.
But what do I know, I have been catching and throwing them back for years.
I guess I shouldn't begrudge you guys your fun.
Continue your Mission.
Papa Ray
I'm learnin stuff here Papa. Not sure what but it is interesting. The jokes, slander and namecallin keeps it form gettin boring I guess. This guy is worth analyizing, He can't be unique even though he is new to me. I wanna milk him for all he's worth but my perspective alone is to narrow.
Cap'n DOC,
A request to study anything from you is ludicrous. And if you want to become a martyr, be my guest. I enjoy my life.
dw
“I wanna milk him” Ewh! Gross! Wouldn’t you rather be milking Papa Gay? At least he will enjoy it.
Afraid to be a martyr for your cause?
And if you want to become a martyr, be my guest.
Apparently you don't love life or the prospect of eternal life, then. I can't drag you kicking and screaming onto the path - I can only argue your apparent reluctance to even consider the path.
You ain't on the path. You will never find the path. Your prophet explained quite clearly what you must do, only he neglected to tell you he was barking at the crescent moon, and hearing the handmaiden from Hell.
I read somewhere that if I am rejected for sharing The Word, that I should shake the dust of my shoe, and depart.
Get thee behind me.
So do you admit you received bad checks, and maybe even wrote some yourself and mailed them through a P.O. Box against the warnings issued by the FBI of the federal crimes you could be committing? . . .
Or worse yet, have you just had a (bad check-up) from your doctor, who doesn't even have a license to moonlight as a 7-11 restroom attendant near the Minneapolis airport?
Co-religionists? Who would want to accompany you to be rejected by the 72 virgins, especially when they find out you didn't bring the most important body part blown up to pieces during your last suicide attempt gone awry.
MASh Here's an example of what is across the isle from us. Maybe you can go there and see what you think. Please comment there I'd really like to see what they say to you.
CRAP!!! dw - You didn't have to go that far. Shiite! They're lost forever, now...
LMAO The monkey boys will set 'em' straight!
Yah, dw... Couldn't help myself, but I'm not about to waste my time lurkin' on that shitslingin' site to find out if he actually pays them a visit.
Hell Doc, I have no class, I will. I noticed the latest title post 'Free Burma'. That in tandem with the US talks should strike terror into Shwe's black heart. OOps! Or were they actually indicating action and that we should intervene?
dw
"Here's an example" I see multiple examples starting with Myanmar. Last time I checked Myanmar junta had little to do with Islamic terrorism. Is there a specific example do you want me to comment on or you want to know my general vies on terrorism? If it’s the former, please provide a specific question. If it ‘s the latter: terrorism is bad.
Brothers and Sisters, come on down and answer me.
Aslamulikum Brothers and Sisters,Read on...
I have a very important question that I need to ask the Muslim community. I think this is a question that occupies the minds of Muslim men when the question of Jihad is presented to them. Who is right?
I believe that the Jihad in all Muslim lands that were occupied is justified but the question remains, who is fighting for land and who is fighting for Allah SWT?
I will listen some of the groups that are right and maybe wrong at the same time, but I want your opinion.
Taliban - Fighting Americans but they are also fighting Pakistani Troops, Northern Alliance and many other Muslim factions.
Hamas - Fighting Israel and Fatah (Muslims).
Hezbollah - Fighting Israel but don't voice their opinion when Fatah-Islam was being killed and they fought a civil war against Muslims as well.
Iraqi Mujahideen - Fighting Americans yet they also fight Sunni/Shia/Kurds.
So, you tell me, how can a man decide who is right or wrong, how can they tell who to fight for and what these groups are fighting for?
Very informative...
Papa Ray
P.S. I used to register and comment on websites like this (or even worse) and enjoy tit for tat with young idiot muslims. But like RT said, the satisfaction wavered and then waned.
Still, I think it's informative to read them. Remember: Know your enemy, even if they are just idiots.
Hey, masH - I could care less about your views on Terrorism until you start demonstrating some concern about your brothers in the cloth. I said it once already, but it's worth repeating - Tell 'em to stop killing people and we'll let you all off the big hook. 'Til then, you're just another poser on the Gong Show.
The boys over at Terrorism News share your view of us here. Islam is a popular subject over there also but with a twist. They believe we are the terrorists. Was curious how you would dialog with them were you to be interested.
They practice censorship there so ya gotta impress them and your name would do that. Beware! Any disagreement with them is viewed as off topic and they have a full time 'off topic commenter zapper guy'. They will then refer back to your unread deleted comment as proof you are stupid so doan't say anything that cannot be defended with at least a plausable deniability and an apology. You shove their bull back down their throats without getting deleted or banned and I will be impressed. BTW at last one of their members has worked for or contracted for British intellegence and they do have unclassified inside info on the ME that they will discuss via e-mail you if they think they can convert you. By convert I did not mean anything spiritual.
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I just wanna help you discover the 'Real Wild West'.
Papa Gay,
I guess it doesn’t matter how many times I repeat that Taliban, Hamas, Hizballah, etc., are terrorists and whomever supports them are Islamists, the difference between moderate Muslims and Islamists won’t get through your thick skull.
Cap No Dic,
If you weren’t such a lazy dumbfuck, you could have read our website www.reformislam.org to see that our concern is very much demonstrated.
dw
“Was curious how you would dialog with them were you to be interested.”
How do you dialogue with stupid bigoted fucks? Pretty much the same way as you do on this blog. Here’s an example of a dialogue with Islamists:
http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007...-a-closed-mind/
“I just wanna help you discover the 'Real Wild West'”
I am aware of that Real Wild West more than you know. As for being blocked from those blogs, I agree. No matter how dumb the rednecks could be they understand the value of free speech. Islamists don’t even understand the concept.
Islamists don’t even understand the concept.Oh, yah. I get it now. Islamists = mohammedans. Right. Refer back to my earlier comment where I addressed your 'differences' utilizing the Merriam-Webster Dictionary on-line. And before I forget, you're demonstrating your own inability to read - Poop for Brains.
Cap No Dic,
Let me try to explain, so even a dumb fuck like you may understand. Islamists are terrorists and their supporters. Moderate Muslims are against Islamism. Or let me try it this way. Islamism is like you cousin dad giving it to you up the ass, a feeling you are intimately familiar with. Moderate Islam is like making love to a beautiful woman, a feeling that you can only imagine, because molesting your poor dog doesn’t count.
Islamists are terrorists and their supporters. Moderate Muslims are against Islamism.
Using your definition of "moderate", what percentage of global Muslims do you consider to be moderates?
What percentage of global Muslims do you feel support the use of violence to achieve, if not an expanded Caliphate, a larger Muslim influence in geo-politics? How many of them feel a little pride when they hear about a successful Islamist attack on the west or Israel?
What percentage of Muslims worldwide do you feel would be receptive to your group's manifesto?
What would YOU say the odds are of your group, or others like it, eventually making enough converts to your vision of moderation to alter the violent dynamics that currently exist in most predominately Muslim societies?
Can you even imagine a scenario where Muslims live in peace with non-Muslims, especially if they represent a majority of the population? Can you even acknowledge the fact that everywhere Islam comes into contact with other religions, such as Thailand, India, and Lebanon, there is violent conflict, and if so why do you think thats true?
Lead, Follow, or Get the Hell Out of the Way
RT
“Using your definition of "moderate", what percentage of global Muslims do you consider to be moderates?”
I want to say “majority”, but I don’t know if it is true.
“What percentage of global Muslims do you feel support the use of violence to achieve”
I want to say “minority”, but I don’t know if it is true.
“What percentage of Muslims worldwide do you feel would be receptive to your group's manifesto?”
Right now about 10, if we’re lucky.
“What would YOU say the odds are of your group, or others like it, eventually making enough converts to your vision of moderation to alter the violent dynamics that currently exist in most predominately Muslim societies?”
If the West gets behind us, fairly good. If not, slim to none.
“Can you even imagine a scenario where Muslims live in peace with non-Muslims”
Yes
“you even acknowledge the fact that everywhere Islam comes into contact with other religions, there is violent conflict”
Yes
“why do you think thats true”
Because of the Islamic supremacy doctrine which we are specifically trying to remove from Islam.
“What percentage of global Muslims do you feel support the use of violence to achieve”
I want to say “minority”, but I don’t know if it is true.
Well you see...... I dont know either.....therein lies my problem.
If you're protecting your home, and a group of people start congregating in your neighborhood, telling you they are peaceful......but SOMEONE in that crowd is shooting at your house.......what are supposed to do if you cant tell which ones are the "bad ones"? ....... thats where I say you mow down the entire crowd before you let your conscience get yourself and your family killed.
On the other hand.....if I knew someone from my neighborhood was going out and attacking others, and the "others" were retaliating by bombing my neighborhood because they didn't know exactly who in my neighborhood was attacking them..... I would like to think I would stop those in my neighborhood who were starting the trouble in the first place, before they got me killed or my house blown up. If I did nothing to stop those from my neighborhood, who I knew were out starting trouble with others, I should probably expect to be lumped in with them. Moderate Muslims, if not guilty of terrorism, are guilty of not policing their own neighborhoods and Mosques.
I wasn't Islamophobic before Muslims started trying to kill me. Some Muslims say they are peaceful and mean it.....other say they are peaceful then shoot you in the back. The actions of those few? force me to suspect them all. It would be dangerously foolish not to.
RT
“thats where I say you mow down the entire crowd” I realize that rednecks are pretty dumb and hostile and peaceful rednecks would be congregating in the same crowd. Moderate Muslims are much smarter than that. That’s why we want to make it as clear as possible (so even dumb redneck will get it) that we want nothing to do with Islamists.
“I would like to think I would stop those in my neighborhood who were starting the trouble in the first place, before they got me killed or my house blown up.” Isn’t that exactly what we are doing by pointing out radical Muslims living in the West, you fucking genius?
“If I did nothing to stop those from my neighborhood, who I knew were out starting trouble with others, I should probably expect to be lumped in with them. Moderate Muslims, if not guilty of terrorism, are guilty of not policing their own neighborhoods and Mosques.” Yeah, well, we are doing this, but all we hear from you is: “shut you fucking face; are no different than the terrorists.”
“It would be dangerously foolish not to.” I agree, fuck the words. But what would be dangerously foolish is to look at the actions and dismiss them just as words.
I’m not asking for blind trust. I am asking for support of our actions as long as they benefit everybody (meaning the West and moderate Islam.) I’m just saying that dismissing all Muslims because you know that a lot of them are full of shit is still stupid. Moderate Muslims is the West’s best weapon in fighting terrorism.
I am asking for support of our actions as long as they benefit everybody
The word 'benifit' is inappropiate here. It subtlly suggests Muslims can help us when in factwe are in no need of 'benifit' from good our bad Muslims. It is you that want our help, so don't let your arrogance pervert your understanding of 'whom' is in need of benifit.
One request MASh. I have respected your request to call you MASh. Please do not slander Doc's personal nic. It represents what he did for us when this country It is noteworthy that he personally chose to be a healer in his service.
dw
“The word 'benifit' is inappropiate here.” “It is you that want our help, so don't let your arrogance pervert your understanding of 'whom' is in need of benifit.”
Speaking about arrogance. Apparently I was under a mistaken impression that preventing the next 9/11 might benefit the West. How arrogant of me!
I see not reason why I shouldn't be calling a bigoted scumbag like Cap'no'DIC anything I want. Put yourself in my shoes. How would you feel about me calling for the elimination of Christianity?
Fair nuff MAS. Your gonna make the perfect diplomat working on behalf of those wishing support form us. You know damn well you will not lead a reformation. Anything you might start will be usurped by others with a different vision. Check your history of the world. NO revolution succeeds with the original intent. NONE. Except the American Revolution. That is not an arrogant perspective or bias patriotic statement. It is an OBSERVABLE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTED FACT.
dw,
As I said before, my choices are: to sit on my ass and wait for the Apocalypse or try to do something to prevent it. I choose to do the latter the best I can. I think it is a sensible approach. Of course, I could have taken Papa Gay's approach of trying to figure out how many beer cans will I be able to squeeze into my anus, but I decided to pass.
BTW I followed your argument against our Congress recognizing Ramadan. Your position looks covertly anti-Muslin/Islamic especially considering the existing recognition of Christmas and Hanuka.
That is suspicious. And considering RT's observations and the above maliciousness against a man you were told we value. (name calling is OK, contempt is OK, but if someone is trying to ask you a favor in return for a favor already granted? (I have called you MASh as you requested even though at least one of my 'informed and respected friends made it plain you do not deserve respect for the name. I am giving up on you, I already know you will lose no sleep over it.
DW: I've given up on his cause, and him a while back . . .
MAS: When will you stop taking things so personally and defend Islam and 'moderate' Muslims, while having a filthy mouth.
I think your character and personality speaks volumes, and actually delegitimizes your theme of good guys exist in Islam.
I, on the other hand, concentrate on striving to make myself a better person with each passing day, treat elders and even 'ignorants' with due respect, and usually (not always) let things get under my skin, unless it's an injection by a hot nurse.
I believe in the American dream, care for civil and individual liberties, and the right of even the 1% opinionated, and that may even involve you.
I believe in putting actions before words, and the rest will take care of itself. People will be amused at worst, and intrigued at best, to ask me who, what I am. And since my 'Muslimness' is a byproduct of my being, they will then discover and judge for themselves what to believe about me and my religion, or continue to stereotype me (justifiably so) in the same way as before.
I also think us as Americans are tired of the (you vs us) attitude people like you use when addressing us. You can't even bring yourself to pretend that America is a 'compromisation' of all kinds, including rednecks.
And it is very apparent that before we ask for 'our' help, you should stick to converting Muslims back to real Islam. Once 'moderate' Muslims take you seriously and you have the following and blessing of people like myself, then you can ask for help. Until then, keep on dreaming.
Since I know you'll respond by personal attacks with filthy innuendos, let me finish by saying, I am 'premeditatively' and proactively embarrassed for you. And assure the readers of this blog that you and you alone do not represent the views of any moderate American Muslim.
Now go serve your country! (whichever that is!)
MAS:
Cap No Dic,
Let me try to explain, so even a dumb fuck like you may understand. Islamists are terrorists and their supporters. Moderate Muslims are against Islamism. Or let me try it this way. Islamism is like you cousin dad giving it to you up the ass, a feeling you are intimately familiar with. Moderate Islam is like making love to a beautiful woman, a feeling that you can only imagine, because molesting your poor dog doesn’t count.
Is this the Islam you want the good Muslims to convert to? Which elementary school did you drop out of?
dw
“Your position looks covertly anti-Muslin/Islamic especially considering the existing recognition of Christmas and Hanuka.” We already addressed this on a different forum. 1. Christmas is not only a religious even, but also a secular holiday. 2. We have enough of Muslim shit to clean up. I think it is only fair to ask Christians and Jews to clean up their own. And for the record, we think that the Congress recognizing any purely religious event, i.e., Hanukah, violates the constitution just as much as recognizing Ramadan. “but if someone is trying to ask you a favor in return for a favor already granted” I think you are comparing apples with oranges. I called you nothing but dw, I think. You asking me to refer to some bigot in a particular way is too much of a favor. “one of my 'informed and respected friends” why do I get the feeling that our definitions of “informed and respected” are very different?
cretin,
"I, on the other hand, concentrate on striving to make myself a better person with each passing day" Not doing to good of a job, are you? Try to concentrate harder. Acquiring another brain cell, which will double your thinking capacity, might help.
cretin
"Is this the Islam you want the good Muslims to convert to?" No dumbshit, I'm not calling on Muslims to convert to Islam. That would make as much sense as to call on you to give up logic.
Hey Mas-ochist:
You have a degree in critical thinking? Do you ever get the point?
You're definitely not a linguist! Or maybe you think that's an item on the menu in an Italian restaurant.
Do they allow you to have a dictionary in your 6x8 cell? You should read it more often. In case you're wondering, it's deliberately written in alphabetical order. When you finally get to the F's, try looking for 'falacious' to describe you and your theory. It's right before you get to fellatio, a word you undoubtedly are familiar with given the fact you're locked up horns with the Muslim brotherhood.
masH -
How would you feel about me calling for the elimination of Christianity?It's been tried and found wanting.
But if you keep up your wonderful use of your tongue which you're so loosely wagging about, you'll end up with more than your hand chopped off, and that'll be due to the blowby - from your supposed brothers.
dw I could care less what he calls me, really. It might smart a bit, but I've also labelled him as a mohammedan, since that's exactly what they are. If he considers me a DICk, at least you know I've got one.
He ain't willing to be a martyr for his cause, which speaks volumes about his commitment.
RT Whatever you do, don't ban this - uh - troll. He's even funnier than az.
And last but not least, MAS, have you beat your wife lately?
"If he considers me a DICk, at least you know I've got one."
That actually means that you ARE one.
"And last but not least, MAS, have you beat your wife lately?"
I thought I made it clear that I'm not a redneck, didn't I? Isn't that YOUR favorite pastime? Somewhere between belching the alphabet and lawnmower racing?
cretin,
What a great comeback! I still can't recover from you "psycho with bad breath" remark. Tell cousin dad to wipe off your highchair.
Yup. Still beatin' your wife.
And no, My name ain't Dick, mohammedan.
"I think it is only fair to ask Christians and Jews to clean up their own."
I dont, you need to clean up your yard BEFORE you ask me to clean mine.
Cap'no'DIC
I apologize for my poor English. I didn't mean that you have a dick, I didn't mean that your name is Dick, I meant that you are a dick. What I don't understand is how can you get from "Cap'no'DIC", which clearly said no DIC that anyone may consider the possibility of you having one, however tiny it would be?
Navaldisaster
""I think it is only fair to ask Christians and Jews to clean up their own."
I dont, you need to clean up your yard BEFORE you ask me to clean mine."
I suggest you read the whole conversation, so you can get a clue what you are talking about. We, as Muslims did a press-release condemning Congress for acknowledging Ramadan, because it violates the Constitution. Somebody implied that we are being hypocritical by not condemning Congress' acknowledgment of Christmas and Hanukkah. I replied that "I think it is only fair to ask Christians and Jews to clean up their own." I was doing exactly what you proposed "clean up your yard BEFORE you ask me to clean mine."
So, before you get your panties in a bunch, learn the subject.
My bad.
What the gotdam hell ya'll done let crawl in here ?? Musta slithered under the door or thru a rat hole.. Looks like a fuggin Mooselimb Al Sharpton !!
Whatever the hell it is, its stinkin up the whole gotdam place..
Navaldisaster,
No problem, happens to the best of us.
Wild Bill
Is background of your gravatar the hood or the robe? Shouldn't you make t half-brown to match your shirt color?
Jus browsed this whole thread again and think meten nailed it pretty good in that taking personal offence or justifying himself personally overrides any arguement he is in. You guys are all highly informeed about the struggle Israel has with their neighbors and I think the closest correct analyisis the socialist pig could come up with while straining his sense of fairness to a breaking point was to label the conflict a 'tit for tat. You hit us we hit you back. Summary? Israel pepetuates the war. The truth may be, that is the Islamic way of perpetualizing conflict, staying in the game, staying locked and loaded, keeping the blood up ready to seize an opportinity, wearing down the peaceful neigbor (usually a host culture that tolerated their immigrating asses) Throwing their women and children in the path of an enemy they pushed a 'lil' to far is proof of their sense of 'total war' on every level even to attack another's sense of humanity. Dragging their women and children onto the battlefield. Damn.
Just maybe they are proof we are good. If they could provoke others to their vision they would have been whiped on the planet by an enemy long ago.
Historians and social scientists should be all over this. It is a first hand look at the very barbarians they love to learn about.
MAS has a narrow tit fot tat mentality and personal offence drives his arguements. He is just saying what he thinks we want to hear. Why? 'tehe heart is deceitful above all things. who can know it'. Not a Christain but that answers things not worth knowing.
masH - What's your point? You continue to fall short. Got any legs left?
What is really funny, that I have been consistent in all of my posts, here or on any other blogs, yet dumb cocksuckers like you continue to accuse me of thing based on the things I never said. I understand that you need to make shit up before you can accuse me of doing it, but can you make it up in a way that your own stupid statements would not contradict themselves? Just a suggestion.
“Summary? Israel pepetuates the war.” That is rich! And, please, use the fucking spell-checker for God’s sake! How can I be a Zionist and accuse Israel of perpetuating the war at the same time? I’m just interested where the fuck did you dig up that shit? If somebody claims that this is my opinion, the claim isn’t worth shit if the statement didn’t come from me.
'tehe heart is deceitful above all things. who can know it' A bunch of a fucking scumbags making shit up while accusing me of deceit. Dumb Wanker, how stupid are you?
Was pointing out my view of Islam and how, in spite of 'your' wish to be better, you are still hopelessly stuck with your cultural perspective which of course is still in tune with the ideas your are trying to reject.
You need therapy. For a small fee I might be able to help.
how stupid are you?
I can't say without incriminating my friends as they are my standard of comparison. Awe hell, OK. I am the dumbest one here and you can't even get past me on the simplest of observations.
use the fucking spell-checker for God’s sake!
That is the most intelligent remark you have yet made here, and definitely the only thing you and RT will ever agree upon.
.....and this is why ........ No, I think me and dipshit actually agree that a lot of Mulsims need to die....... and our numbers are closer than he wants to admit.
I say all of them, and I think he's somewhere between 40% and 90%.
Dymphna thinks he cool..... of course she dont know him as well as we do.
RT This dude is startin' to sound like he's got Gas for a Ghostwriter.
Shit heads like RT concentrate on 82% for whom defeating Jihadists is not a priority. Smart people concentrate on the fact that 53% want free elections and free press, which is not that bad considering that literacy rate in that country is not much higher.
dw
"you are still hopelessly stuck with your cultural perspective which of course is still in tune with the ideas your are trying to reject." I thought I already explained to you that when you make up unsubstantiated shit, you come off even dumber than you look.
Just like the rest of your drivel up above, you still dont make good sense, Boy.. But what should I expect from a Mouth Breather.. You see, I dont even own a brown shirt.. I get all the brown I want from the people I see..
And, uh, NAWP.. The Gravatar is for the NOOSE !! See, you aint as fuckin smart as you try to appear to be.. Or were you just tryin to wait till the appropriate time fore you called me a racist ??
Dont worry bout it tho.. Go ahead and spit it out !!
RACIST !!
Now, dont you feel better ??
Dont bother me tho.. I cover it real good by posin as just bein BIASED.. Yeah, I'm BIASED ginst snakes, and niggers.. No matter what color they are.. Never can tell what color, gender, or nationality the sunzabitches is gonna come in..
Speakin of snakes, ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU IN THE PAST DONATED TO THE HOLY LAND FOUNDATION ?? Are you an un-indicted co-conspiritor ??
Hell, since you know so much bout me, even my shirt color I dont have, I thank it'd be nice to know a little bout you, from your own mouth, since you are so concerned bout what is said about you..
I hope your self description inclused CHARLATAN, or else I'll know you are liein right from the start.. So far, my impression of you as a Mooselimb Al Shartom stands..
Now u dun it you gatdamn NASSAS You dun pissed off Bill.
you come off even dumber than you look.
UH? lemme see. Should I laff my ass off 'or' be very afraid? I'd shoot your fucking ass in heart beat you came near me.
Are there any more of you dumb cocksuckers here who hates "n--s"? Speak up, don't be shy.
dixieturd,
Your sibling parents must have been really drunk when they conceived you, because inbreeding alone could not account for the depth of your degeneracy. Unlike you, who just recently learned about the HLF while munching on cousin dad's ass, people like me were on exposing them, CAIR, etc. for years. Your vast knowledge of American Jihadists may impress your retarded cousins, but it takes a little more to impress me. I believe you that you don’t need a brown shirt. Considering your genetic composition and outstanding hygiene, formerly white robe would suffice. So, when you get a break between you klan and hitler jugend rallies, go learn something, you dumb nazi fuck.
Hey Mas:
If you don't watch your mouth, you might find yourself trying to live on Second Life, or maybe even the afterlife!!
If I were you, I wouldn't mess with some of the people here (present company excluded though).
I wouldn't waste a good bullet on the mentally challenged . . .
cretin,
When you grow the balls to threaten my life, come back, you little cocksucker.
DAMN.. If that aint just fuggin PRICELESS !! The booger-eatin-mohron caint even walk and chew gum at the same time or find his own way home after dark or remember what lies hes told, but he is now an eggspert on fuggin GENETICS !!
Give some MUSH-headed snake oil salesman a gotdam blogger address and all of a sudden he knows everythang.. Or did you and your butt-buddy Al Gore invent bloggin too ??
What happened, did your phoney roofin scams and fake Herbal Remedies infomercials fail to con enuff money out of the old people to keep you in the lifestyle you were accustomed to, and now you have dreamed up this idiotic scheme to re-educate the other little rock-chunkers of the world in the proper form of BUGGERY ??
I dont care how much money you sucker out of folks, you still aint gonna get enuff to brang the 12th Birtbag out of that well !! Give it up, HOMEY !! Homey Da Clown ..
BWAHAHAHAHA
You been holdin' out on me, masH. You couldn't possibly have Pass the Gas for a ghostwriter - his mouth didn't spew as much filth as yours does. He had the sense to prop his chin on curb when he decided to let loose, whilst you ain't even botherin' to lift your head up.
If this is the language you're using to promote your cause, I'm pondering if maybe poor Pamela ought to be informed.
What do you think, RT? Could you possibly send her a transcript of this thread? I'm sure she'd be really interested in how two-faced this 'peace promoter' really is.
And furthermore masH, heed the following words well:
God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death....
You can read the whole thing HERE, and it enraged your brothers so much they ended up doing violence to a number of 'innocents'.
The above quote is what put them over the edge. You being such a true scholar and all, mark the following as well:
The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God's nature. The editor, Theodore Khoury, observes: "For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek philosophy, this statement is self-evident. But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality." Here Khoury quotes a work of the noted French Islamist R. Arnaldez, who points out that Ibn Hazn went so far as to state that God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God's will, we would even have to practice idolatry.
I highlighted the text that I wish you to focus on, since you seem to be on a course of self-destruction. Perhaps you'll 'see the light', but I'm not holdin' my breath.
What do you think, RT? Could you possibly send her a transcript of this thread? I'm sure she'd be really interested in how two-faced this 'peace promoter' really is.
I dont think so Doc.... I thought about that the other day, but decided it reeks of tattletaleing, similar to what happened to Nuckin' Futz.....and thats just not my bag. I've fostered an environment here where everyone can speak freely.....whats said here stays here. Wouldn't want to put Pamela in a bad spot either. I decided I would save that option in case he did something similar first.... in which case I would then declare Redneck Jihad on him and follow him throughout the blogosphere shredding his feigned credability......but thats a time consuming task I'm not looking forward to either.
And hell, most conservative bloggers have been waiting for someone like MASh to come around for years..... He's selling them exactly what they want to hear. He'll screw that up just fine by himself in time.
I see your point, RT. He is indeed one of the worst spokespersons I've ever seen for 'moderation'.
still think he should try harder to educate us on distinguishing a moderate from an extremist at 200 yards and a stiff cross breeze.
i'm thinking of the state's website where they test your ability to identify a black bear v. a grizzly. it'll have a little blurb about about a trait, like a black bear is not always black, show a picture of a bear, then ask if you can shoot it. (link to test is at the bottom of the page here)
now wouldn't something like that be a useful education in id'ing muslims?
I see your point, RT. He is indeed one of the worst spokespersons I've ever seen for 'moderation'.
Not one of the worst . . . THE worst!!!
By the way, how do we know it's a 'he'?
She couldn't even be a spokesperson for deaf man talking . . .
whats said here stays here.
You got some class RT. That position, and letting people speak freely here. I think when people know they can speak freely they will speak their true mind.
cretin,
When you grow the balls to threaten my life, come back, you little cocksucker.
I do know. Was flashing that he/they are actually dangerous.
MAS I said 'if you come near me' , and in response to your suggesting that you knew what I looked like. I assume you were using sarcasm/joking but? That in the context of your complete hatred of me/us and the fact that you seem addicted to this site crawling with people you seemingly hate?
For the record
... I would never initiate anything physical against you unless you broke our laws. ...
dw | 09.20.07 - 12:24 pm | Link
That is my beleif towards all other groups and cultures. And like everyone else, I would defend myself when necessary.
"The problem is not religion. It is the social-political context in which the religion exists. You can’t change the religion, but you cán change the social-political context. It becomes a very hostile relationship with the 1.2 billion Muslims to tell them: the problem is your religion…."
Fareed Zakaria,
Newsweek journalist
Belief in Democracy
"This is true especially of the Turks. Having a secular society, the fear of becoming the representative of a more moderate Islam can be seen as a sign of 'public' embracing of Islam over nationalistic ideals complete with a 'private' ownership of Islam. But on the other hand Turks don't (yet) realize what everyone else in the West have already figured out. They are Muslims and as such do represent Islam, and are guilty by association due to Islam's misperception or its stricter application by the so-called fundamentalists."
TalkTurkey - The Trouble With Islam
"Maybe Islam wasn't meant for the Muslims. Just look at them - the current and still adopted 'caretakers' of Islam. Ever since they've been entrusted with the religion, they've allowed their ethnic, racial, cultural, and secular motivations, and hatred inclinations smothered with pride and prejudice, take hold of their religious and obvious insecurities. They have been hiding their own deficiencies under the guise of religious matrimony for too long. Instead of years spent distancing religion from the secularist state, maybe the efforts would have been wiser if secularism was removed from the religion.
Bottom line: It's not the religion stupid! It's the 'religious' followers who think funda'mental'ism is never having to go back to the basic fundamentals. As a result, as soon as all religions became 'organized,' the technicalities of 'mis-interpretationism' and personal and communal agendas took over. Once again, the powerful few's common sense ruled over the common good."
TalkTurkey - Islam: No Muslims Allowed
dixieturd
Look up “pathological projection” you cocksucking nazi fuck. Just because you fell for snake oil more than once, doesn’t mean that everybody now is trying to sell you some.
Cap’no’dick
I would be very curious of what Pam has to say about this thread myself. I guess when she reads most of your remarks; her reaction would be the one of embarrassment. You are trying to provides quotes of people who might be even dumber than you are (if that humanly possible), which are completely irrelevant. Just because somebody expresses his opinion, it doesn’t make it a fact.
RT
“I thought about that the other day, but decided it reeks of tattletaleing.” Don’t hold out on my account. I’d love Pam to see this; I think she’ll bust her gut laughing. “Redneck Jihad”, bring it on, dumbshit. My credibility is based on my deeds. You, on the other hand, are full of shit with no facts to back up any of your statements.
wafflestomper
You shouldn’t have taken your thumb out of your mouth. You pathetic attempts of making any sense failed miserably.
dw
“I said 'if you come near me'” Seriously? Regardless of the smell factor, why on earth would I want to come near you?
“I would never initiate anything physical against you unless you broke our laws” Just for the sake of argument, say I did. What can you possibly do? Start farting louder than usual?
cretin
Next time you clip and post you “deep thoughts” consider their relevance to the discussion. But before that, look up words ‘relevance’ and ‘discussion.’ And let me know if you’re having a problem, I’ll try not to exceed two syllables next time.
You sure do spend a lot of time here, MUSH.. Whatsa matta, your other online job where you are known as "BARRISTER" not doin so good lately ??
And thats real cool how you just BLEW(but you really are good at BLOWIN anyway) right on past RACIST and went straight for NAZI !!
That is a Socialists, Liberal trait, you know.. And yeah, I hate them fuggers too !!
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party ??
Hey 'mohammedans Against Sharia', hereafter abbreviated as mas.
You have the temerity to suggest I'm quoting someone who has no relevance, however the gentleman I quoted is making sincere efforts to reach some mutual understanding with you AND your brothers, so he's more than just some common peon like myself.
Don't dismiss any information that I give you like you'd discard a cheap suit, you fool.
Dixieturd
Proving your stupidity time and time again.
“And thats real cool how you just BLEW(but you really are good at BLOWIN anyway) right on past RACIST and went straight for NAZI !! That is a Socialists, Liberal trait”
Don’t you know that the nazis ARE socialist, you stupid fuck? Nazism is a communism with genocidal overtone. Therefore, you’re noting but a racist commie (doesn’t get more liberal than that), you’re just too fucking stupid to admit it.
Cap’no’dick
“You have the temerity to suggest I'm quoting someone who has no relevance.” No, but I suggest that you are too fucking dumb to realize that part of the comment were not addressed to you. Not that you don’t qualify as a cretin, but It was addressed to another cretin, the one who claims to be a Muslim and ashamed of it.
And you my friend are just.plain.stupid.
And I quote:
Cap’no’dick
I would be very curious of what Pam has to say about this thread myself. I guess when she reads most of your remarks; her reaction would be the one of embarrassment. You are trying to provides quotes of people who might be even dumber than you are (if that humanly possible), which are completely irrelevant. Just because somebody expresses his opinion, it doesn’t make it a fact.
Now. Did you say that? Or - was it your sock-puppet talking?
READ.WHAT.I.SAID. CHECK.THE.LINK. I will not repeat myself.
You are plainly rejecting the insights of a man who has a huge stake in your little game...
Hey Mas-moron-ized!!!
The relevance to the 'discussion' is that you've got no point. You don't listen. You don't get it. You can't read. Your translator software needs an update. Your foul mouth stinks of whomever you swallowed. And to top it off, you're an imbecile. And you call yourself a Muslim? Or do you really represent Islam? or is it both? Try to explain the similarities . . .
(Are you) a glutton for punishment" . . . keep coming back for more gang raping by the rednecks . . .
Good thing we still have the death penalty here in the U.S. for convicted melons!
A real leader, aint you MUSH.. Dont even know the difference tween a Redneck and Nazi..
But just thank.. As soon as this latest shyster gimmick starts payin off, you wont have to keep askin everybody "you want fries with that?" and you can spend more time down at the goat farm with your girfriend !!
Wild Bill . . .
Are you calling Mas a lesbian? I wonder if that's allowed in his Islam?
No Mas!
RT:
You may have to create a new blog just for Mas . . . and the record breaking commentary . . .
I wonder what you would call it . . .
Revenge of the wrongfully Mas-tectomized??
Cap’n’doc,
When you’re right, you’re right. My bad. I thought you were referring to a different post.
Billi-boy
“Dont even know the difference tween a Redneck and Nazi” Actually I do. Someone who hates "n--s" crossed from being a redneck into being a white supremacist, i.e., a nazi. As for "you want fries with that?" do you really believe that even this forum’s numb skulls think I am more likely to use this phrase professionally than you are?
cretin
“I wonder if that's allowed in his Islam?” Since you claim to be a Muslim, shouldn’t you know what is allowed and what’s not?
MUSH, these good folks have been puttin up with my shit here for a coupla years now, and they know the ONLY time I use that phrase or ever will is when I'm servin folks at the Vigilante Committee fish fry..
So that leaves you here, still provin with each sentence you write, that you are the one lackin in potential for anythang other than a position meant for someone with little demand for logic, reasonin, and leadership.. That is, if you aint already, you would be qualified for the "Elect Hillary 08" campaign !!
But look on the bright side.. I bet your ugly ass aint gonna need a costume to go trick or treatin this year.. Or has your cleric prohibited it for you ??
I don't trust any Muslim. I would however tolerate on my terms. Oh yea! My term are Constitutional and I have the right to watch you be pennieless, homeless and destitue when I refuse to interact with you on any level. I would never initiate anything physical against you unless you broke our laws. I would just watch you go wee weee wee all the way home.
When you first came here MAS I thought I might have to re evaluate that attitude and opinion. As we slowly got to know you, I, at first thought the boys were being a 'lil' hard on you. But as usual they were right on target and once provoked your true colors flowered into the most evasive and colorful language I have ever seen here.
You started out talking. Then progressed to arguement. That's all good. Then you became offended and later enraged at our stupidity. Then you got real extra nasty. Next threatening. Now it is insane and I am outta here.
you come off even dumber than you look
That gave me pause.
Memorable MAS quotes
you cocksucking nazi fuck
Are there any more of you dumb cocksuckers here who hates "n--s"? Speak up, don't be shy.
dixieturd,
Cap’no’dick
This is memorable;
"...Your pathetic threats might work on your boyfriend after you’re done felching him,..."
I learned a word here that I wish I could forget.
But we we're assured by your statement
"My credibility is based on my deeds"
After this 300+thread I don't think you stressed the 'deeds' as I can't remember one. You hatred overshadowed anything positive you might have done for your peers and we don't need a goddamn thing from you, so?. The Fed brought you here? He rams diversity down our throats and this thread is all about one of those 'benifits' you bring to our nation..
dixieturd,
“Vigilante Committee fish fry”? Is that a euphemism for a hitler jugend meeting? And if your bumper weren’t rusty to the point when you can’t even see a reflection brushing your tooth, you wouldn’t be calling anyone else ugly.
DickWad
Re. “Memorable MAS quotes”
“you cocksucking nazi fuck” was a reply to “I'm BIASED ginst snakes, and niggers.” I’m sure if you take some other quotes out of context and put them together, you can get “dw” + “is’ + “very” + “smart”, when, in fact, this phrase in its entirety could only be uttered in sarcastic context. “After this 300+thread I don't think you stressed the 'deeds' as I can't remember one.” Maybe not, but I refered you to our blog many times. Since you are too stupid to follow instructions, let me post direct links right here. All you have to do is click. You think you can handle that, or would it put too much strain on your brain cell?
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...erandi-
lie.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...is-
outrage.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...e-
islamist.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...d-
everyone.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...airs-
empty.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...s-gives-
in.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...-sharia-
in.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...condemn-
in.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...h-
cartoons.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...-
footbaths.html
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blog...on-
senator.html
These, among other things are what we’ve done in a month. What the fuck have you done, except for shooting off your mouth?
Hear Hear DW!!!
I am done!!! I can't bring myself so low to argue with someone who defies logic. It makes me more guilty than him/her in that regard that I've even paid so much attention to someone who is drowning in his own urine . . .
What the hell was I thinking . . .
See you around Rednecks . . .
I've gone fishin . . .
Now that the Yankees lost!
Disappointin, aint it, DW ??
I guess that all-elusive Moderate Mooselimb is still just a myth..
Of all the verbal attacks he mustered, he never did come out with the one I was proddin for tho.. The ONE that is a dead-giveaway..
INFIDEL !!
Sorry, Folks.. I must be losin my touch.. I just wonder how close I got tho.. I bet it wadnt very damn far from the tips of his fangers.. In fact, I wouldnt doubt that he didnt have to erase it a few times before postin his comment..
But I do thank there may be hope for this dirtbag.. The bad part about it, is that he is gonna be a liberal and not conservative.. Of coarse that wont be a big jump for him and he'll just LOVE the KOS conventions..
Just another liberal loser and opportunist moocher eatin Redneck Dust !!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mas in lovers spat
Don't look mooselimb to me
dixieturd,
“he never did come out with the one I was proddin for”
Just another proof what a stupid fuck you are. This is posted in our manifesto:
“Outdated words & phrases
Use of the following words and phrases or their variations must be prohibited during religious services:
• Infidel / Unbeliever: these terms have negative connotation and promote divisiveness and animosity; Islam is not the only religion”
“he is gonna be a liberal and not conservative” - spoken like a true dumbfuck. Why should someone have to be either?
“Just another liberal loser and opportunist” Just because you’re name is Billy-Bob or you like munching on your cousin dad’s ass, doesn’t make you a conservative.
California Mike,
We know you like boys, we didn’t know you liked them that short.
You forgot one word in your OUTDATED list tho, dirtbag..
"INFILTRATION" !!
Those outdated words and phrases are counter-productive to the CAUSE.. Those words and instuctions are in the Mooselimb Handbook, kinda like sayin you have been tortured when captured..
And now I'm stupid cause I didnt bother to read your Socialist Manifesto ?? You forgot to inform me that it was MANDATORY readin.. And you say Socialist same-same Nazi.. And you say I'm a Nazi ?? You are not only a booger-eatin-mohron, you are a deluded booger-eatin-mohron !!
Your hair must be getting pretty nappy, having never looked in a mirror and all. So sad felcher boy
Nope, bein a conservative aint easy at all.. We have to constantly wade thru and denounce all this bullshit you liberals spread around while tryin to destroy America with it and be on the lookout for you opportunist MOOCHERS ..
dixieturd
Even being a fucking nazi, you are too much of a dumb cocksucker to understand that the nazis are self-proclaimed socialists, since they call themselves national socialists. The socialist part is correct, the national, is actually racial. They are racial socialists, so being a racist cocksucker, you obviously fit well. Not that anyone could expect less from a product of the unholy alliance of two drunk siblings. “bein a conservative aint easy at all” as I may have mentioned before, being a redneck cocksucker, like your cousin Sheets Byrd, doesn’t make you a conservative
Cocksucker Mike
It is not my fault your boyfriend dumped you. I didn’t tell you to give him a brown snowflake.
mohammedansagainstsharia Ya know, dude, you're more than welcome to keep posting crap, and I'll just keep reminding you how you ain't gonna get the last word, here or anywhere else.
Inhale deeply. Exhale if you must. Then take a nap. It's well deserved.
You ain't got any lips left. They've been well shredded.
The record for longest thread got beat by this crap?
Cap’no’dick
“you ain't gonna get the last word, here or anywhere else.” You actually post on more than one thread? Wow, multitasking redneck. Call Guinness now!
Hell yeah bein a conservative is hard.. Its almost as hard as you findin an actual job that you QUALIFY for, and I really thought that PARER ROUTE thang you had goin was gonna work out for you !! What happened ?? Did you not get that Gubmint Small Business Loan for a new bicycle ?? Or was it just to hard to remember all those street names and addresses ?? Or were you havin trouble findin your way around in the dark ?? Or was it cause of the neighborhoods you wouldnt be able to go to cause of you bein a Registered Animal Sexual Predator, and couldnt deliver around the Animal Clinic and the Dog Groomers and 4-H Club ??
dixieturd
How do you get from "being a redneck cocksucker, like your cousin Sheets Byrd, doesn’t make you a conservative" to "bein a conservative is hard" ?
Muslims Against Sharia,
I log onto this blog site for entertainment, but you have totally pissed me off! Go away, you are making me nauseous.
Ardent
What exactly pissed you off? You realized that some Muslims do more to combat terrorism than you ever will and it made you feel impotent?
MAS,
I have no idea what you are talking about. Your name is just so dumb, it just does not resonate with me.
It is like calling yourself, 'Romans against the Inquisition'! Sharia will never be introduced into Western countries. Perhaps it might be best if you promote your site in Saudi Arabia or countries that do have Sharia.
'some Muslims do more to combat terrorism than you ever will'
I don't need to combat terrorism because I don't know any terrorists. Close as I get to them is watching the 6 o'clock news.
Get a life.
mohammedans Against Sharia - I asked about several inconsistencies at the front end of this thread, and I'll make one more effort to get more than foul language out of you:
Since you would like us to believe you know something about your religion, answer the following simple questions which I've drawn from your 'manifesto'.
Inconsistencies in the Koran
Unfortunately, Islamic religious texts, including the Koran and the Hadith contain many passages, which call for Islamic domination and incite violence against non-Muslims. It is time to change that. Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Koran is the literal word of Allah. But could Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim?
Let's break it down - How old is the koran? Did it drop into mohammed's lap in one fell swoop? And the hadiths. How old are they? Can you cite archeological and scientific proof for the existence of the koran to say - 600 AD? 700 AD?
And since you never did tell us about it, I'm asking you now - What (or who) does the Crescent moon stand for?
One last request - either quit calling people names or quit commenting. You only make yourself look like a gutter resident and a fool that knows no better. You do don't you? Know better?
Hey MASh, These Towel Heads have a problem with you calling them bigots.
RT -
I'm convinced, and good find.
I do know more than this dude about his supposed religion. And now... so does everyone.
Wow these guys are gettin exposed bigtime. I got a friend from another site checkin this thread but is so long he needs time. He is a hell good researcher and analyist. He doan care for Rednecks but he is conservative and sharp as a tack.
Sharia will never be introduced into Western countries.
I dunno bout that. They're washing their feet on our dime and Congress loves Ramadan now, they have schools and mosque's goin up everywhere, they are vested in our economy and breed like, ... uh? ... like we used to do.
Ardent
“Sharia will never be introduced into Western countries.” That statement shows nothing but ignorance. There are attempts in Canada to institute Sharia courts, and some neighborhoods in France and Britain where police does not go without consulting with Muslim elders first. “I don't need to combat terrorism because I don't know any terrorists.” Keep living with your head suck up your ass, let’s see how long that would last.
Cap’no’dick
“How old is the koran?” 1300+.
“Did it drop into mohammed's lap in one fell swoop?” No
“And the hadiths. How old are they?” Depends on a particular Hadith, but 1000+ years old would be fair.
“What (or who) does the Crescent moon stand for?” Look it up, you lazy dumbshit
“One last request - either quit calling people names or quit commenting.” How about some reciprocity, you dumb cocksucker?
RT
“These Towel Heads have a problem with you calling them bigots.” I think this is one of the better articles. Usually we are dismissed as a Zionist/Neocon front without any further discussion.
dw
“Wow these guys are gettin exposed bigtime.” Of what. That we are an Islamic conspiracy or a Neocon conspiracy? Even a DimWit like you should realize that we cannot be both at the same time.
mas - You just don't get it, do you?
Look it up, you lazy dumbshit
“One last request - either quit calling people names or quit commenting.” How about some reciprocity, you dumb cocksucker?
I asked you a question. I want your explanation. I know the answer, but you and your kind are considered sortalike 'BlackGoats' if you will, what with all your rush to rip pages out of a book which you claim is the word of allah, but no evidence whatsoever as to when this thing was put together.
How about some reciprocity...?Do you really want me to answer that?
Now, ANSWER the questions as I've asked them, or go away. Your foulmouth is beginning to annoy even myself.
"I asked you a question. I want your explanation." I'd like to know one good reason why I should give a shit about what you want. I thought that sense of entitlement was a liberal trait and you are claiming to be a conservative.
"ANSWER the questions as I've asked them" How about you KISS MY ASS, and I don't mean literally, who knows what dirty cock your lips recently touched.
Ah well - I see you continue to be a foul-mouthed no-nothing. Here I was gonna get to the point of asking you about i'jaz, but you're off another swirling trip to the drain.
I'd be happy to provide answers that are not widely available online.
I see that the little pecker gnat scam artist wannabe is still buzzin round here and stankin up the place !!
Have ya'll noticed how irrelevent everybody else is to him ??
From your manifesto: Inconsistencies in the Koran
Unfortunately, Islamic religious texts, including the Koran and the Hadith contain many passages, which call for Islamic domination and incite violence against non-Muslims. It is time to change that.
Just how does this (the above quote) fit within the framework of i'jaz? Either it is, or it ain't. You can't rip the text apart if it is as it is said to be.
Funny you have hooked up with "Regime Change in Iran" Khalim...... you remind me a whole lot of them.
Aside from their constant begging for money, and the fact that they are an obvious mouthpiece for Reza Pahlavi, they too became instant darlings of the conservative blogosphere with a PR campaign effort reminiscent of your own prolific self-promotional trolling.
Their MO is to demonize the Iranian regime, while never acknowledging how many Iranians honestly support the Theocracy. He too wasn't willing to face the Mullah's henchmen on the streets of Tehran, and he blamed the Reformist's failures on the West's lack of overt support for their cause.
I tried to nail him down once, on whether or not if the United States removed the Theocracy and installed the reformers in power, would he support a verifiable dismantling of the Iranian nuclear program...... he would not.
He considered the Ayatollahs evil, and wanted them out power, but I got a strong sense he expected to be among those who filled the power void..... a scam Chalabi beat you both to, and when the Mullahs were gone he still wanted a nuclear greater Persia to be the dominant regional player.
He saw the evils of the Mullahs, but was blind to the danger nuclear powered Persian Nationalism would pose to the region. He hated the current leaders in Iran, but he didn't really have a comment to share about his relatives who were cheering on public executions or stoning their women.
He could understand me not wanting the Ayatollahs possessing the Shiite bomb, but not why I would be just as scared of them in the hands of a truly democratically elected Mahdi worshiping Persian nationalist government.
Cap’n’DOC
“Just how does this (the above quote) fit within the framework of i'jaz?”
To put it in your language: it ain’t. The next sentence in that paragraph is: “Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Koran is the literal word of Allah. But could Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim?” If you don’t understand, it means that we believe that the Koran has been altered over the years, because this war mongering could not have possibly come from Allah.
Oh yah... I'm with you on that, which is why I asked you about evidence for what you are proposing. Just who do you think is going to make decisions about what stays and what goes, eh? You?
Do you know what the definition is of i'jaz? If you do, could you provide me with a statement (rather than a question, which is what you're pointing me to) as to what that means regarding the koran?
I'm waiting.
Furthermore, if it means what I believe it means (and I do have a clue), you are fair game for those whom you fear -
incapable of being imitated or copied; surpassing imitation; matchless.
Where do you go from here?
I don't think the fellow has a clue about his religion.
I havent seen him have much of a grasp on anythang yet besides his Socialist Manifesto and the money fallin in his TIP JAR !!
Whats the deal MASh.....how come Linda didn't allow my comment about Paypal?
RT - Do you think it's worth following this dude to his - uh - jar?
Did you actually get a comment deleted over there?
I dont know.....they've published two other comments in that thread since I left mine. It was a pretty mild comment relative to their financing.
There's three people over there using the same "Muslims Against Sharia" Blogger name, and have apparent administrative access to the comment moderation system.
Khalim Massoud....the idiot we know here.
Ilshat Alsayef in Russia
and Linda Ahmed in Sweden....none of which have an internet trail before they went public with their manifesto and tip-jar in late september..... all of which are located a safe distance from the center of the religion they plan to reform.
If anyone deleted my comment it was probably Linda.
Our boy's gonna be on a live podcast at 10:00 PM Eastern time.
You can call in and ask him to clarify his felching comment at (724) 444-7444
Talkcast ID: 25742.
RT
“Their MO is to demonize the Iranian regime”
What kind of a moron who claims to be a patriotic American would even say something like this when the official position of that regime is world without the US.
“I tried to nail him down once, on whether or not if the United States removed the Theocracy and installed the reformers in power, would he support a verifiable dismantling of the Iranian nuclear program...... he would not.” You are so full of shit! Besides, if you really conversed with "Regime Change in Iran", you wouldn’t refer to "Regime Change in Iran", as him, you fucking liar.
Cap’n’doc
“I asked you about evidence”
Evidence? How fucking stupid are you? There is no evidence in belief.
“Do you know what the definition is of i'jaz?” Which part of “I'd be happy to provide answers that are not widely available online” don’t you understand?
“Just who do you think is going to make decisions about what stays and what goes, eh? You?” Yes, and if you have a problem with that, you’re a welcome to kiss my ass any time.
“Where do you go from here?” If the Koran is infallible, then we (all Muslims) are fucked. However we (Muslims Against Sharia) do not believe in that. We base our belief on the fact that many Koranic verses contradict each other. You may consider THIS evidence if you want to.
“I don't think the fellow has a clue about his religion.”
Just because some stupid fuck like yourself picked up a few bits here and there, it doesn’t make you a scholar or puts you in a position to be qualified to judge who knows what.
dixiturd
What exactly makes our manifesto “socialist”? Aren’t you trying to say “Communist Manifesto”, you uneducated nazi cocksucker?
RT
“Whats the deal MASh.....how come Linda didn't allow my comment about Paypal?” I have no idea. However, giving your history of bullshit, I’m not even sure there was a comment. Post it here and I’ll give you a more educated opinion, otherwise I can only guess.
“You can call in and ask him to clarify his felching comment”
Unlike this thread, AAB is a classy forum and I wouldn’t use this type of language around people that I respect.
Geeesh, - uh - Khalim!!! I know of several sources for the koran, and as far as I can tell, none of them contradict each other! Like I said when we started this 'conversation' (if I can be so bold as to call it that), you brought the rope with you! I didn't do any studying of your religion via the web! I can find all kinds of crap on the web, including the 'fact' that 'man' never set foot on your precious moon.
When I told you that I could address your religion on an equal footing, I meant exactly what I said. I don't need to be verbose to get my point across - nor do I need to be obtuse, as you are and have been.
I repeat, I know, but bring it on, answer my questions, don't erect any strawmen or go home.
"Khalim" Just because RT claims that it is my name, doesn't make it so.
Me: "many Koranic verses contradict each other"
You: "I know of several sources for the koran, and as far as I can tell, none of them contradict each other!"
Would you like me to explain to you the difference between "sources" and "verses"?
Seriously, doc, if you don't understand something, I can explain it to you. But your attempts to outsmart me are really pathetic. I have a double-digit gap over you in IQ points, so just, please, give it up.
Well, DW, I did the research you asked for. Bilt a little dossier about them in the mean time. Some of it is inconclusive, but some of it is interesting. While it is unlikely they are actually physically in Nebraska, their explanation that "Nebraska is the best place for NGO headquarters" is logical.
They do become quite unhinged when continuously challenged, as would anyone else. But then, why did they come here in the first place. One of the things they will need to learn is to not go where you are not apreciated. Their first post was legit, if somewhat naive. Their mistake was hanging around to fight with ya. I mean, what did they hope to accomplish. Reminds me of mud wrestling with a pig - sooner or later you realize the pig likes it.
While it is true that Islam will most likely have to be destroyed - or it will destroy us - I don't think fighting with those who are trying (no matter how hopelessly) to reform it will be of any profit.
I cannot prove whether they are or are not Muslims, but they do show some lack of knowlege of our soceity. And many other blind spots of the way the world works. (A bit of bigotry also, though less than I would have expected, under the circumstnaces) They also lack funamental knowlege of economic theory, no knowing the difference between supply side rules and demand side rules (their statement that "If the oil were fungible, ’73 embargo would not have worked" showes a complete lack of rationality. But I don't recall them saying they are into economics (and thus a large part of their naivety). I can assure you that non-secular Muslims the world over will consider them infidels, and at the least will not listen to them. At worst will kill them for their stance against fundamentalism.
They also did not get, at all, the “Islam thrives on poverty” remark. They assume that if the leaders can afford to buy bombs and run sleeper cells, then poverty isn't the issue. It is. The leaders keep the public ignorant and impoverished in order to keep them willing to listen to hate speech against the infidels, whom they blame.
All in all, I would say they are who they say they are, but I don't give them a snowball's chance in hell of making a difference. That said, I will have to back their right to try. I think they would be better off converting to Christianity, but they will just think that is my bias
Well, I don't expect to post here any more. Unless DW asks me to chime in about something in particular. This has already cost me about six hours research time.
TRex
PS: any of you are welcome to come debate at combateffective, but I filter almost everything from e-mail, so that wouldn't be too fruitful.
Rex your a hell good guy. I owe ya.
Crooked sunzabitch has done told so many lies that now he caint even remember what his own fuggin name is !!
Here, let me help you remember, dirtbag.. Its BARRISTER KHALIM !! Remember now ??
And you can also stop stuffin my email box with all those gotdam "URGENT" letters cause just like your TIP JAR, you aint gonna get a fuggin copper American penny outta me !!
TRex
“A bit of bigotry”
could you provide an example?
“They also did not get, at all, the “Islam thrives on poverty” remark”
Gulf states have the highest per capita income in the world, (to the point that citizens of some countries are not allowed to work, only foreigners could) but a lot of fundamentalist Islam comes from there.
I’d hate to rain on your parade, but while your analysis sounds very fancy, it lacks substance in many aspects. But I believe you are being honest and I respect that.
Would you like me to explain to you the difference between "sources" and "verses"?
Would you like me to explain the term 'inimitability'?
You confused "sources" and 'verses', that's why I offered to explain the difference. Is there a reason why you want to explain to me the meaning of 'inimitability'? Doesn't my statement 'However we (Muslims Against Sharia) do not believe in that [the Koran is infallible]' already addressed the issue of inimitability of the Koran, or you missed that?
We base our belief on the fact that many Koranic verses contradict each other.
I missed it. You're talking even the oldest extant copy?
Well, WHO KNEW?
Here I thought your allah could not contradict himself, but now...I am truly amazed. It's no wonder you don't want to discuss your religion with me - it's full of contradictions!
The source for all these contradictions? The Father of Lies
You've got no argument.
You've got nothing left if you excise all the contradictory verses there, dude. You're sunk. Can't even defend your own lies, much less those of your 'prophet', because that's the source I'm referring to.
You have the word of a man. Nothing more. Nothing less.
You should have been reading the link that I gave you, because your contradictions are well explained - as they have been for hundreds of years.
“Here I thought your allah could not contradict himself” He can’t. My Allah is your Yahweh. People who wrote and re-wrote the Koran were not perfect. They had enough time to place some stuff there.
“You've got no argument” You are an idiot. You base your opinion on someone else’s opinions when actual facts are available. Your major mistake is that you think that you are smart while in reality you are pretty stupid. You mistake makes you believe that your assumptions are just as good a facts, while they are not. You can keep living with the head up your ass or you can try to consider the facts. Facts are the ultimate truth. Your opinions are not worth shit. I understand that it is hard for an idiot to admit that hi is an idiot, but you should try it just for kicks and see if your worldviews change.
My Allah is your Yahweh.
He is not. Your allah cannot possibly my God.
God does not contradict himself, because that is not His Nature. He is All Perfect.
PS
"Idiot" is not meant as an insult. This term describes people with IQ ranging from 60 to 80.
I take it back. You are a fucking moron. I just explained to you that God did not contradict himself, the contradictions came from people, and, like a fucking moron you are, you keep telling me that God is perfect. When you try to argue with people, try to bring up the points that you disagree on.
RT, I just wish he was that well reknowned, but, actually, and accordin to you and TRex, we have all just been arguein with the fuggin JANITOR of MAS !!
And to tell the truth, that STILL surprises me.. Cause I have always thought that janitors were RELIABLE people ..
I just wonder if MUSH is gonna wind up like that janitor did the other day that they found with a plastic trash bag on his head stuffed into a locker ??
I figger he is pretty safe tho, unless he also moonlights at the ZOO !! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
God point Bill.
Muslims Against Sharia, If you don't mind I would like to ask what your educationn nd employment is, degrees and experience in your field.
I personally reset a leaking toilet today. It was also dirty so I cleaned it as I like my work to be as nice as I can make it. I see the toilet as kinda a throne of sorts. I have no shame as I work hard and am self reliant. I respect any one the works but I understand the philosdophy that an intellegent man would not let himself fall into such debasing employment. Solution? Overcome other's views of what is base. That also applies to religeon and philosophy, the medical profession and, yes quantum physics.
BTW having a 'lil' fun here but have no intention of making fun of your reply.
But I did reset and clean a toilet.
dw,
Even though my education level is probably higher than any of this blog's participants, I'm not going to discuss any personal information here. However, I can easily prove that I am smarter than all of you combined. Would that convince you that my education is high enough?
With all that education, looks like you would be able to be a smarter liar than you are !!
You still aint managed to fool ONE of us dumb Redneck COCKSUCKERS yet !!
If you caint even sucker a few of us DIXIETURDS into believin you, then how the hell do you propose changin the minds of BILLIONS of Mooselimbs ??
dixieturd,
Why in the world would I want to convince a degenerate cocksucker like you of anything? You're nothing more than a worthless piece of shit, regardless of what cousin dad keeps telling you.
hmmm... why would you want to convince someone about anything? only people with real goals do that.
useless to muslims
useless to non-believers
Cause even as much of a low-life de(what) as I am, my influence is still worth 100 times more than the rock-chunkin buncha mud-shack dirtbags that you are tryin to convert..
Looks like all that fuggin education you claim to have would have already clued you into that !! Or didnt they teach you that in janitor school ??
You gotta face it, Barrister.. Thangs work different here in the Common Market.. They are not the same here as in your usual Socialist surroundins.. IF YOU CAINT RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS, GET BACK UNDER THE PORCH !!
Runnin with the BIG DOGS means you gotta learn how to hunt, and you caint seem to stop layin down and lickin your own dick long enuff to keep up with the pack !!
wafflestomper
"why would you want to convince someone about anything?" Why should I consider a nobody like you a someone?
dixieturd
"my influence is still worth 100 times more" Your influence? Who the fuck can you possibly influence? "RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS" Thank you for making me laugh. I guess the more of a degenerate you are, the more you think about yourself. Run with the big dogs! I love it! Honestly, would anyone even consider you anything more than a sewer rat?
Well folks, can it get any better than this? I have no clue why he slithered over here, but he's finally convinced even myself that no amount of facts and rationale will shut him up. He's a walkin' talkin' contradiction. Supposedly a stellar example of his religion.
Do any of you like his chances?
BWAHAHAHAHAA!
Even though my education level is probably higher than any of this blog's participants, I'm not going to discuss any personal information here. However, I can easily prove that I am smarter than all of you combined. Would that convince you that my education is high enough?
Do you have to? It only takes a high school education to develop a sewer mouth like the one you've got. And you exhibit no signs of 'higher intelligence' whatsoever.
You got a list of verses you'd like to contradict yet, or are you just going to haphazardly snip away? You're so far off in left field with your contradictory verses thingy, I'm surprised the ignorant and uneducated haven't laughed you out of the mud hut yet.
Ohhhh. That's right. I forgot. You're in a Nebraska cornfield, right? You wearin' sandals or high heels?
Ignore inimitability at your peril there, dude. I think you just flushed the koran down the toilet.
MOF, I think you just flushed it down the toilet that dw just fixed!
Muslims tell Christians: 'Make peace with us or survival of world is at stake'
Prominent Muslim scholars are warning that the "survival of the world" is at stake if Muslims and Christians do not make peace with each other.
In an unprecedented open letter signed by 138 leading Muslim scholars from every sect of Islam, the Muslims plead with Christian leaders "to come together with us on the common essentials of our two religions."
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, and Pope Benedict are believed to have been sent copies of the document which calls for greater understanding between the two faiths.
The letter also spells out the similarities between passages of the Bible and the Koran.
The Muslim scholars state: "As Muslims, we say to Christians that we are not against them and that Islam is not against them - so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes."
The phrasing has similarities to the New Testament passage: "He that is not with me is against me" - a passage used by President George Bush when addressing a joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11.
The Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought, a non-governmental organisation based in Amman, Jordan, has organised the letter.
The Institute said: "This historic letter is intended by its 138 signatories as an open invitation to Christians to unite with Muslims over the most essential aspects of their respective faiths - the principles of love of one God and love of the neighbour.
"It is hoped that the recognition of this common ground will provide the followers of both faiths with a shared understanding that will serve to defuse tensions around the world."
It continues: "Finding common ground between Muslims and Christians is not simply a matter for polite ecumenical dialogue between selected religious leaders.
"Together they (Muslims and Christians) make up more than 55 per cent of the population, making the relationship between these two religious communities the most important factor in contributing to meaningful peace around the world. If Muslims and Christians are not at peace, the world cannot be at peace."
Among those launching the letter in the UK will be David Ford, Regius Professor of Divinity, and Fellow of Selwyn College, University of Cambridge and founding director of the Cambridge Inter-Faith Programme.
Aref Ali Nayed, a leading theologian and senior adviser to the Inter-Faith Programme, will also take part at the event in central London.
I'd like to point out that the people that will threaten you are not educated and neither are the people that would fight them for you. Education has it's place. If there is a philosophy that the educated society will have no problems with religion, crime or morality then there is also a philosophy that the educated's disdain for physical labor and hard work without a just reward is the driving factor behind 'becoming' educated. Not a moral issue but sheds a little deeper light upon the 'reasons' one may or may not become educated, unless it is a given that all uneducated people are such by reason of stupidity.
How important is physical labor in the scheme of building and maintaining a society. Sure glad my mail man and garbage collector are uneducated.
I am well aware of the arrogance of elites that surmise that we commoners just maintain ourselves and contribute little to the functioning society and are more of a problem and social burden that a contributor' That arrogance has legs in a middle class/wealthy society right up until the time an enemy shows up on your doorstep. The commoners come in real handy in a war. If poor angry aggressive nation A has more commoners that happy productive nation B. Well nation B better have defensive technology or import and naturalize a bunch of pissed of poor commoners. Oops! That plan backfired. On second though, it serves the socialists very well.
Not laffin at you nor slandering you. Just touching upon the impressions you give me concerning your education/intelligence. You come off as unbelievably arrogant. Some ignorant fuck gets angry at me I can find a way to deal with and settle things. With intellectual arrogance their is no compromise.
dw
"Just touching upon the impressions you give me concerning your education/intelligence."
You ask me whether I am educated enough, I'm providing an example why I am, and I'm called arrogant? The fact that I am better educated and smarter does not make me a petter person than an average poster on this thread, who might have not finished high school. The fact that I'm not a bigot does.
dw - You have nothing to be ashamed of in your line of work, and you appear to not be ashamed, but for this character and his constant belittlement of everyone here.
I'm a bit skeptical of the fact that we haven't heard from him today. Perhaps some of what was revealed yesterday about his dark side is keeping him from expressing himself...
This for example:
Even though my education level is probably higher than any of this blog's participants,sounds like Pass the Gas and the arrogance of someone who drinks bong water from atop a pile of paper with a bunch of seals on 'em that they use like glass coasters - only that's where the bong is parked to begin with.
He's arrogant and ignorant of his own religion, and claims that there ain't anybody that knows as much as he does about it. I've never claimed here that I was an expert on even my own religion, but I do know I've devoted as many hours to studying his (via the standard route of the written word) almost as much as I've studied my own.
His religion is wanting for the lack of freedom, and suffering the burden of submittal - but yet he wants his religion on his terms and his alone. It's hilarious that he accepts absolutely nothing on faith, but yet expects us to take everything that he says on faith - because he says it.
There's a famous movie line by Jack that goes like this: "You can't handle the truth!"
Indeed, this poor bottomfeeder can't.
Whaddayagot there, Khalim? A PhD? That stands for Piled Higher and Deeper, and you've got the brain to go with it, as you've brilliantly exhibited.
I read somewhere that He who exalts himself shall be humbled, and he who humbles himself shall be exalted.
You're headed to Hell.
The fact that I am better educated and smarter does not make me a petter person
...... priceless!!
I think I seen your portrait on the wall at the Mensa HQ in Arlington TX..... Janitor of the Month as I recall..... impressive.
RT
I'm surprised you even know what Mensa is. So how about that challenge to prove that I am smarter than all of you combined? Or are you too much of a chicken shit?
Or are you too much of a chicken shit?
....this coming from the pussy who plans to reform Islam without ever setting foot in the Islamic world?
..... go nail your manifesto on the door of an ME Mosque them come back here and call me chickenshit.
"You're headed to Hell."
Do you mean some Alabama swamp? I suppose your presence there qualifies it as hell, but I have no intentions of going there.
"this coming from the pussy who wants to reform Islam but is afraid to try it to their faces?"
I'm not surprised that someone like you doesn't understand the difference between cowardice and pragmatism. However, you refusing to take the challenge pretty much proves that you are a pussy either way. Either you are a pussy to take the challenge or you are a pussy to admit that you stand no chance.
This is not going to be a dick sucking contest is it?.....cause I already know I cant hang with you on that.
"go nail your manifesto on the door of an ME Mosque them come back here and call me chickenshit."
So by your logic, anyone who does not nail the manifesto to the door of ME mosque is a chicken shit? Wouldn't this make you also a chicken shit by your own standards?
Do you mean some Alabama swamp?
I'm superduper extra positive that everyone here can testify - I'm above you - in more ways than one.
"This is not going to be a dick sucking contest is it?"
That might be a Texan way to determine brain capacity, but I would rather go with an IQ test.
"I'm superduper extra positive that everyone here can testify - I'm above you - in more ways than one."
Testimony of a bunch of shitheads who have less than 20 teeth between them would hardly mean anything. However an IQ test will.
That might be a Texan way to determine brain capacity, but I would rather go with an IQ test.
Ya win hands down, RT. You've got two fingers.
However an IQ test will.
....are you sure you want to go there dumbass?
http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiqflash/
Let me know how many you got wrong.
Let's see how you do and then discuss who is the dumbass.
Testimony of a bunch of shitheads who have less than 20 teeth between them would hardly mean anything. However an IQ test will.
First, you claim a knowledge of your own religion that surpasses anything we possibly could possess.
You failed. Miserably. You don't know for shit about it. When you recognized what a failure you were on that account, you next challenge everybody here to take the big Mensa challenge - to prove what? That you have at least two brains cells which you can rub together? Get real and get a life.
Don't erect any more strawmen, mas. You keep pullin' the straw out of your head and you'll have nothin' left.
"you claim a knowledge of your own religion that surpasses anything we possibly could possess. You failed. Miserably"
This is in accordance to a degenerate who has no clue what Islam is. How much weight does it carry?
"to take the big Mensa challenge - to prove what?"
That I am smarter than all of you combined. Didn't you read the previous post?
I'll take it tonight...... in the meantime, can you gather up some data about the average IQ of Muslims relative to the west for me?
And can you clarify exactly what "smarter than all of you combined" means..... and please have some proof of your score.
... The fact that I am better educated and smarter ...
For us, that is something you don't go around saying to people, at least publically. The arrogance is in that you need us commonors to cow tow to your arguements because you are smarter and as such we cannot possibly be right about anything? Just asking. Sometimes questioning is the only way to get another perspective. Try seeing through our rhetoric and to what we are saying. You might disagree, that is expected as we are horses of a different color. But 'stupid' is a rediculous analyisis and only escallates the slander and name calling. Your a self professed diplomat for refoirming Islam? Be diplomastic. Won't help here but some here might respect you to a degree.
BTW I did not finish high school nor later persue any education nor have I read very many books. Does that make me stupid by default? You are talking and responding to me and I you. Neither of us are stupid. Moral issues, understandings and idealogy are the issues here. That can make us appear stupid wjen we disagree? Just asking.
This is in accordance to a degenerate who has no clue what Islam is.How so? Remember now that you've been tried and found seriously lacking - in defense of your own particular brand of mohammedanism.
And we're the only ones that count, since you came here claiming all sorts of crap you can't defend.
RT
"can you gather up some data about the average IQ of Muslims relative to the west for me?" No, but I assume it would be lower due to the fact that Western literacy rates are in high 90s and Muslim literacy rate is probably below 50%.
"smarter than all of you combined" means that I will answer more questions right than you will.
"please have some proof of your score" How do you propose I do that? This is an internet test. What I can do is to give you the answer to the question that you fail and explain why my answer is correct. Will this work? It is not real proof but it is as close as it gets.
dw
"you are smarter and as such we cannot possibly be right about anything? Just asking." No, but it goes to show that being smarter and better educated I am more likely to know what I am talking about. Look at Cap'n'doc's arguments. He is all over the place. He obviously never took a logic course.
"Your a self professed diplomat for refoirming Islam? Be diplomastic." This is the principal fallacy of your arguments. You make assumptions (which may or may not be correct) and use them as the basis for the arguments. What you should do is to use facts.
"Does that make me stupid by default?"
Absolutely not. Gates dropped out of college and nobody calls him stupid. Lack of education provides incomplete perspectives on subjects, i.e., all Muslims are evil. However, basing your arguments on assumptions arising from the lack of knowledge IS stupid. Let me give you an example. "The Koran commands Muslims to kill non-Muslims" - this is a factually accurate statement. "All Muslims want to kill non-Muslims because the Koran says so" - this is a factually inaccurate statement which is based on assumption stemming from the lack of knowledge. I hope I am making sense to you. If not let me know which part does not and I will try to re-phrase it.
I tell you what Dumbass.....that shit was easier than I thought, so I went ahead and took it now, at work, with distractions.......and got 144...... I dont believe I missed any......dumbass.
And I'm sure your little peabrained super-educated high-powered Muslim mind dont believe me.....
......So Here's Proof.....where's yours?
How do you propose I do that? This is an internet test. What I can do is to give you the answer to the question that you fail and explain why my answer is correct. Will this work? It is not real proof but it is as close as it gets.
You arrogant Cocksucking Raghead.....just push the prt scr button on your keyboard to take a screenshot, then copy from your clipboard to an image software, then however you put images on your blog, upload it to there, then provide a link here......unless of course your too fuckin stupid to figure that out.....genius.
The first rule about Mensa Club shithead.....is you dont talk about Mensa Club.
..... people will think you're an asshole.....ASSHOLE.And you might want to avoid ever playin poker with a Texan too, Einstein.
Ooooh boy. That's cuts it RT. But what do I do with my 144? Frame it? Of course, that was my IQ when I enlisted, so I suppose accounting for my 'consumptive habits' over time that I've done what? Dropped some?
What a kick.
And BTW, Dumbmas. I may have been 'all over the place' with my arguments, but you were exactly nowhere, and nowhere is where you'll remain.
/mas: where's my Print Screen button?
"You arrogant Cocksucking Raghead.....just push the prt scr"
Should I embarrass you here publicly by providing explanation why your proof isn't worth shit or do you already understand that?
OH BOY .. An educated idiot !!
Whos only claim to fame, so far, seems to be as a janitor for a reputable worthy cause, and has a fascination for peoples asses and the word "cocksucker" !!
You really need to frame that resume and hang it on the wall, dirtbag ..
So far, in all your comments here, you have only re-enforced the fear and loathin of the Mooselimb Religeon in all its form, shape, and function.. Even tho I dont thank that it was your true intention, your self-promotion tainted anythang else you had to say..
Its what we call, lettin your bulldog mouth overload your shewawa ass !!
No matter how much education and IQ you possess, it aint gonna do you any good unless you are able to associate logic with it..
Lets face it.. Tact, civility, and mass appeal aint one of your strong traits.. So, how does one expect to advance their Cause Celebre while dependin on donations from the same folks that you denegrate and classify as some lower Life Form ?? Dont compare to any logic that I've seen before, cept Liberal Logic..
RT,
How does that foot taste in your mouth?
dixiturd,
"Tact, civility, and mass appeal"
Am I supposed to display them around some dumb nazi fuck?
Hey!!! What am I, Dumbmas, Swiss Cheese? If you're gonna toss insults, at least get your completely flacid self in order, will ya?
/note to mas: Spew often and equally.
Cap'n'Gina,
What do you want me to tell you? That you cannot trigger "encephalogram"? But it's not really news.
How does that foot taste in your mouth?
I dont know, how does my boot feel in your ass?
One thing about that test website that you posted here, is that it reminds me of "Muslims Against Sharia"..... its just a scam to get you to pay $15 for a useless cause.
Hows that Proof coming on your end...... Oh let me guess MY proof is no good......but the proof you cant produce is......
.....thats exactly why we are going to havta kill Allah Yall.
RT
So, you still claim that your pathetic little image is a definitive proof that you got 144? If the answer is yes, I have another question: how fucking stupid are you?
http://reformislam.org/misc/IQtest.gif
Am I the only one that thinks that Dumbmas got a 404? Of course he prolly didn't even realize his gif is whacked.
Apparently smart enough to know how to make a link that works.
Crap, RT. That SlamDunk was way too easy...
His gif ain't the only thing that's whacked.
He damn sure knows how to put a working Paypal link up though.
Okay...
/self - Keep the microfiber cloth next to monitor.
Pick any question on that test dumbass, and I will give YOU the correct answer.
So many options - so little time.
Felcher boy
I can easily prove that I am smarter than all of you combined
What a dip shit, next we should hear how he’s also better looking, makes more money than all of us combined and has a trophy wife that makes ours look like dogs.
What a maroon.
mas - It's been awhile since I axed this question -
How's that moon doin'? The one that's hangin' out of your trousers?
Maroon MoonBoy to you.
He damn sure knows how to put a working Paypal link up though.He does? WHO KNEW?
/mas: "I put up a Paypal link"?
California Mike - Question - Can one Felch oneself?
/concerned about the health of Dumbmas.
We have a joke about academics.
What is the defination of a Phd
When a person is educated beyongd their intellegence.
Surely you have known or can remember academics that held positions that you believed to be 'stupip'. From my end your intellegence is subordinate to your personal beleifs. So what else iis new? We all do that. So who will judge us all?
Well we can start with Judge Geography. This is my fucking country! How can I know it's mine? Well,... my accestors built it and fought for it. That was a joke. Maybe our humor is what you are misinterpretoing as 'stupid', but I doubt it.
felching Damn that the worst word I have ever learned. Damn it is also a word you will never forget.
Did sombody suggest that RT open a Mirror site just for
Muslims Against sharie?
I can't for the life of me understand why he stays but he has a reason and this thread isn't dying yet.
I can't for the life of me understand why he stays but he has a reason and this thread isn't dying yet.
I can tell you one thing dw - His Playbook ain't deep - he's eating the pages as he goes.
he's eating the pages as he goes.
Not sure how but now I understand completely. LMAO
Cap’n Doc…
“Just who do you think is going to make decisions about what stays and what goes, eh? You?”
Felcher prophet
Yes, and if you have a problem with that, you’re a welcome to kiss my ass any time.
Do you also sell stone idols
So I placed the image in a wrong directory, big fucking deal. http://reformislam.org/misc/IQtest.gif
Do you also sell stone idols
He's definitely got a lock on Nebraska corncobs.
dw,
"This is my fucking country! How can I know it's mine? Well,... my accestors built it and fought for it."
They fought for it? With whom? The Indians who hardly knew how to use fire?
So I placed the image in a wrong directory, big fucking deal.
No big deal, Mr Dumbmas IQ. Did you have to resort to your GED?
dw
"I can't for the life of me understand why he stays" There are many things in the world beyond your comprehension, so don't be so hard on yourself.
Ahhhh. So many questions, so little reading comprehension to draw upon. What's a poor downtrodden and abused mohammedan to do?
How many plays you got left there, DumbmasIQ?
How's that moon doin'? Chilly yet?
/mas: "What? My pants are down"?
dw - Laugh at him. He likes it when you talk dirty.
Nice Photoshop...you do have skills..... bet those skillsets come in handy in the scamming industry, huh?
Kinda like that permanently dilated sphincter muscle of yours comes in handy on weekends.
I got it now, RT! He's a used car salesman with a lot full of lemons and dried up raisins!
Scratch that part about the raisins. Should have said Dates. That's it. Dried up Dates.
RT
"Nice Photoshop...you do have skills" So, do you see my point now how much of a proof your image really is? Also, you might have noticed, that none of the other dumbfucks even attempted to do anything with this test.
Yeah, but what you dont realize is that all the regulars here know I dont have photoshop. We have discussed it before.
And how would I have correctly guessed what the verbiage was for a perfect score?.....Einstein
Just because you cheat like a Muslim dont mean I did.
None of the rest of us need to take the fookin' test, DumbmasIQ. I already said mine was 144 30+ years ago. Take it or leave it. Up to now, I've come out on the top end of your little game, and the best you can do is concede.
You pulled your pants up yet?
The DumbmasGED just don't get it, does he?
RT,
I'm not accusing you of cheating, but I am surprised you got such a high score on a 10th grade test. The problem with it is not that it is easy for anyone with half the brain (and you obviously have more than a half, I'll give you that) but that you can always go back and play with the answers if you are not sure about them. So, here's the test with no answers to go back to.
No. Cryptic Answer
0 24 H in a D 24 Hours in a Day
1 26 L of the A
2 7 D of the W
3 7 W of the W
4 12 S of the Z
5 66 B of the B
6 52 C in a P (WJs)
7 13 S in the USF
8 18 H on a G C
9 39 B of the O T
10 5 T on a F
11 90 D in a R A
12 3 B M (S H T R)
13 32 is the T in D F at which W F
14 15 P in a R T
15 3 W on a T
16 100 C in a R
17 11 P in a F (S) T
18 12 M in a Y
19 13=UFS
20 8 T on a O
21 29 D in F in a L Y
22 27 B in the N T
23 365 D in a Y
24 13 L in a B D
25 52 W in a Y
26 9 L of a C
27 60 M in a H
28 23 P of C in the H B
29 64 S on a C B
30 9 P in S A
31 6 B to an O in C
32 1000 Y in a M
33 15 M on a D M C
We can do it line by line, you do first, I do next, or the other way around, you pick. The first one to miss three answers loses. Wanna give it a shot, or is this too difficult for you?
Oh, and if any of the dumbfucks wanna help you, it's OK too.
"but what you dont realize is that all the regulars here know I dont have photoshop."
What do you need that for? wouldn't changing the page source be easier?
I got better things to do than play this stupid game but:
1. Letters Alphabet
2. Days Week
3. Wonders World
4 Signs Zodiac
5 Books Bible
....yawn
6. Cards Pack
7. Stripes US Flag
8. Holes Golf Course
9. Books Old Testament
10. Toes Foot
.....I have a double-digit gap over you in IQ points, Boy, so just, please, give it up.
I love it when you talk dirty, RT.
For cryin' out loud. Is there some way to handicap this 'test'? Way too fookin' easy.
Way too fookin' easy.
Not if your an ignorant Muslim who thinks you "Know Something".
Let me go get Smokey my dog in here to make it a fair match.
This is why they bring an AK-47 to an F-16 fight......they think they're smart.
/mas: "Where's my snippets from the koran when I really need 'em"?
Check the outhouse. Left-hand side.
I love this thread now. Talk dirty? I'm not that kind of boy, ... well, maybe just this once.
Uh, ... wanna felch?
RT,
Are you saying that you know the answers to all 33 questions? I think you are just full of shit.
I can't for the life of me understand why he stays" There are many things in the world beyond your comprehension, so don't be so hard on yourself.
You presume to offend an ego I do not have.
Is there a hard one in there somewhere that would shut you the fuck up?
Pick One.
...but hurry up I got better shit to do than to keep humiliating your ignorant ass all night.
Hell, RT... If you're a 'Visionary Philosopher', can I be a Rocket Scientist?
I gotta get back to my book-learnin'. I've fallen behind.
/I'm only half way through Light of Faith, and the library hasn't called me about The Abolition of Man, which Papa Ray turned me on to.
Spending way too much time draggin' the BottomFeeder around by the Shredded lips.
Are you saying that you know the answers to all 33 questions? I think you are just full of shit.
Well, CRAP! The fookin' suspense is killin' me. Put Smokey up there and get it over, will ya RT.
Smokey the Dog vs. DumbmasGED. I call it for Smokey, paws down.
You presume to offend an ego I do not have.
Hell, dw. You made me laugh!
14 15 P in a R T
I think that was a veilked threat!
Awe shit! Lemme guess Doc. Ya need another monitor?
DumbmasGED implodes in 5...4...3...2...1
BTW, RT, you're given Mr. DumbmasGED way too many answers... Maybe one of us 'unbiased' dumbfucks could find him a seein' eye dog, perhaps?
Whoops. I forgot. You got Smokey.
Now I think I know why Muslims hate Pigs......they're too smart......makes them look bad in front of the Camels.
Ya need another monitor?
dw... I'm laughin' so hard I'm snottin' all over my keyboard.
#30
Now that is a toughie...... I've never actually been to all 9 Provinces of South Africa...... but I hear the average IQ there is higher than in Palestine.
......try this one
10000000 M Are Gonna D if they K F with US.
Boy, that Smokey... A real world traveler. Did he do that with his left paw, or did you let him touch the GoogleKey with his right paw?
/self: Don't go up against Smokey. That there dog knows how to travel!
Nine pricks involved in a sexual assault.
34. 1 RT on a MAS and a LMAO
I've never laughed so hard in all my life. That's one smart dog you got there, RT.
How many you figure he really missed? I mean... Besides #30?
Thanx RT I was sure I was correct. 
Who to fuck knows.....whats he trying to prove anyway?
I just got my new Hot Tub Pump in tonight and I'm going to Plumb it and Wire it tomorrow.
DW could do it with his eyes closed, but I guarantee you Einstein here couldn't figure it out for shit.
But right now I got to go take a shower.....keep dipshit entertained for me till I get back.
We want Smokey! We want Smokey! We want Smokey!
Don't let him near your outhouse there, DumbmasGED. He'll rip your leg off and take your TP-k.
/mas: "My outhouse? Did I leave it out"?
Well, apparently you know all the answers. But what you didn't know is that if you get 19 or more right, you are a genius and only 2 MENSA members solved all 33 problems. So you either you are super geniuses or fucking cheaters. I wonder which possibility is more likely.
I figured SA was either South America or South Africa.....so what could the P stand for......I couldn't think of anything but peninsulas or provinces, but yes, I had to check first to make sure there were 9.
Mensa is another fuckin scam.
Why should I pay annual dues just to prove what I know.
Only insecure assholes like yourself feel they must compare IQs.......get a life loser.
Pick me! Pick me! Mr. DumbmasGED. I axed you about that Moon thingy you got goin' on - ohhhh - about a bizillion comments back. You wanna do-over on that, or do ya wanna start with i'jaz?
Cept for one of Bill's jokes I never laughed so hard here.
More likely the 2 MENSA members cheated.
Mensa, shmensa. I got what God gave me. The U.S. Navy says I got an IQ of 144, but I don't fookin' brag about it or dwell on it. I never even knew what it meant until 1972 - After fryin' God knows how many brain cells. I didn't mind at the time, and I surely could care less about what someone else' IQ is. Folks are usually not in the questioning mode when you answer difficult questions or resolve difficult problems for them. They just know you fixed it.
Leastwise, my dipstick goes all the way to the pan, unlike the Bottomfeeder of Corncob fame.
Now who in the fuck is this?
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One of your un-indicted co-conspirators?
Or maybe a real Muslim looking for your blasphemous ass.
More likely the 2 MENSA members cheated.
Bingo. They put their two heads on the table at the last meeting and decided to put together a test to see who they'd allow to play with their brain cells. I don't have time for that kinda crap, and I'm sure putting a hot tub together was more of a challenge to RT than this Bottomfeeder.
Whoops. I forgot. Smokey answered the question.
Enough amusement. See you on the flip side, dw.
You too, Smokey. Nice paw work, there.
RT - How'd he do that?
Bout that hot tub pump RT. I'd have to peek, but just for second, sorry.
Oooooh. It's not nice to fuck with RT, MR. DumbmasGED. Not nice a-tall.
I'd crawl under the Corncobs and hide if I were you. But - I ain't you!
Nite Doc. It's been ...
RT. You know I was right about #30
I sure did DW.
So you either you are super geniuses or fucking cheaters. I wonder which possibility is more likely
IMHO what does it matter whether he knew it off the top of his head or not? In the functioning real world he finds or figures out what he wants to know. He is a practical functioning productive genius, not an academic 'I wanna impress the hell out of your fucking dumb ass' egotist wearing a MENSA sticker.
Merry X mas
RT
"Mensa is another fuckin scam. Only insecure assholes like yourself feel they must compare IQs"
Are you trying to convince yourself that you didn't cheat, you dumb cocksucker? Look, I don't really give a shit that you cheated. It's just there were too many allegations above that Muslims always lie, so I figured someone might appreciate the irony when they see that people who make those allegations are full of shit. The fact that it was fairly easy to do was just an added bonus. However exposing intellectual midgets for what they are is not really a victory.
dw,
Chances of getting into MENSA are 1 in 50. Chances of getting all the answers right are less than 1 in a million. I don't know how familiar you are with statistics, but it is almost impossible. If RT were THAT smart, he wouldn't have time for this blog.
But if I had gotten any wrong.....you would have called me a dumbass right?
Is that how it works?
You want to have a "Fair" contest with me.....one that you just happen to already know the answers to.... and I'm a dumbass if I get them wrong and a cheater if I get them right?
Sweet. I dont have to carry a Mensa Card to figure out what a dickhead you are.
So...hows that reforming Islam thing coming along?
You're too smart not to know that you are never going to see even a shred of success in your lifetime.....but you tell the Islamophobes exactly what they have been dying to hear a "Moderate Muslim" say......then you suggest they should hit your paypal tip jar if they want to help.
If you haven't done it already your planning to do a fund raising post soon just like Regime Change in Iran has up now. Bounties require support huh?
Does that about sum it up Con Man?
If you are really devoted to your supposed cause, and you're not in this Koran-a-Scam just to make a quick buck.....prove it by permanently removing the Support page from your blog.
See how that works asshole. I know your not going to remove that page.....so I get to keep calling you a con-man.
Sweet ain't it?
Idiot sevant? (a joke) RT plainly said he holds no stock in MENSA nor IQ tests. We are educated working people. I am self taught and my poor spelling reflects my lack of education. You see anybody here hammering me as stupid? My score (not that MENSA test) was a lil above average but years ago and I forget the #.
We are working people and have to produce a product or service. What we value is our own cultural pride in our work and honesty. If honesty is a cultura/moral or idealogical assesment then you are the dishonest one here in our culture. If it is learned knowledge then 'stupid' is asessed by those defined in that biblical expression 'knowledge puffeth up'
I tell you without intended sarcasm. You sound arrogant to an extreme here. You adhere to a religeon that we detest for reasons that are documented 'and' obversable. You claim to want to reform your peers and in the context of denouncing our beleifs. I smell a moderate Muslim invasion. I can read between the lines. The only rational goal for you here is the immediate fun and later on proof that we are enemies of even peaceful moderate Muslims. You going into politics down the road? Establish a peaceful reputation only to be again provoked to radicalism when we do not let you Islamicize our nation.
It's not even a stretch to se you as a radical in disguise.
You know, I should have conected the dots when the idea of JANITOR and PAPER BOY came up, well, actually, it should have raised a red flag at my first comment bout slitherin and rat hole and smell, but now I'm just diein for someone to prove me wrong and that this aint FED in a burqa wraped up around ITS neck in the missionary position beggin us DO ME DO ME DO ME !!
RT
"But if I had gotten any wrong.....you would have called me a dumbass right?"
No. If you'd gotten less than 5 right, then I would have called you a dumbass.
"You want to have a "Fair" contest with me.....one that you just happen to already know the answers to"
Actually I don't know all the answers. The test that I have only gives the right or wrong. I didn't know #30 for example. But I figured that you probably cheated on the easy test and you will likely cheat on the hard one. And, as usual, I was right.
"You're too smart not to know that you are never going to see even a shred of success in your lifetime"
I thought we discussed that already. I can either try (which I do) or sit on my ass (like you choose to.) You know what Confucius said about 1000-mile journey, right?
"prove it by permanently removing the Support page from your blog."
Give me one good reason why I should and I might. Proving something to some redneck asshole is not a good reason. Besides, I thought we talked about this also. I have nothing to prove to a bigot.
"con-man"
That's the new insult you came up with after I conned you into exposing yourself as a cheater? OK, I guess I deserve it. However, don't you find it hilarious that most of the posters here have no idea what this discussion is about? Those are your "people".
dw
"RT plainly said he holds no stock in MENSA nor IQ tests."
Yeah, he also doesn't drive a Ferrari or has no playmate for a girlfriend because he is not that shallow.
"We are educated working people. I am self taught and my poor spelling reflects my lack of education."
Do you even understand how stupid this sounds. Would you please stop embarrassing yourself?
"What we value is ... honesty"
Last time I checked cheating didn't qualify as honesty. And your statement about RT being able to find the answers reeked of moral relativism. Do you know what that means? Hint: not so much honesty.
"You sound arrogant to an extreme here."
OK, but this is bad why?
"You adhere to a religeon that we detest for reasons that are documented 'and' obversable."
Yet I'm trying to change that part of the religion and you are the ones who are giving me shit about it. How does that make sense?
"context of denouncing our beleifs."
Really? Care to provide an example?
"I smell a moderate Muslim invasion."
I think you smell something different, but if you remove your head out of your ass, it might stop.
"I can read between the lines."
No offense, dude, but I don't think you're smart enough.
"The only rational goal for you here is the immediate fun and later on proof that we are enemies of even peaceful moderate Muslims."
Close enough. Actually, I'm using the quotes from here to prove that ignorance breeds bigotry. But as I said before, you guys are too worthless and harmless to qualify as an enemy of anything.
"It's not even a stretch to se you as a radical in disguise"
Again, your ignorance does not let you overcome your bigotry, but blaming you for that is like blaming a retard for inability to solve calculus problems.
Ya totally missed my point about arrogance and stupidity a well as lack of education.
"context of denouncing our beleifs."
Really? Care to provide an example?
I'll just point out the most obvious one to your MENSASTRATING MENTALITY.
We reject Islam as ignorant and incompatable with our Constitution and culture. We reject your beleif that Islam can be reformed. We reject your integrety. We reject your intellectual arrogance. Your concept of intellectualism is nothing more than a arrogant egotistical mask hiding a chronic inferioirity complex.
You have been denouncing our rejections. That is what this whole thread is about. You didn't know that? You thought this was dialog? It's an unresolvable arguement between antagonistic beleifs. That is sad if you were intellectually nieve and immature enough to think we were involved in any meaningfiul dialog. We are both, and in the guise of arguement simply honoing our perspectives and arguements to be sure. Please tell me you knew that. You aren't really a zombie are you?
MENSA me this Muslim Moonbat.
"You sound arrogant to an extreme here."
OK, but this is bad why?
What's wrong with that statement?
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And your statement about RT being able to find the answers reeked of moral relativism. Do you know what that means? Hint: not so much honesty.
If honesty is a cultura/moral or idealogical assesment then you are the dishonest one here in our culture.
Funny, I have two personal friends that hold Doctorates. Personally know numerous retired and working professors two of which are semi retired, awarded and one that isworld renowned in agricultural research. One recently passed away. Not one of them has ever in the sleightest given me the impression that they are superior.(First rule of MENSA, ya don't talk about MENSA) Just the opposite. They thank me above what I deserve when I service their needs. BTW Their are many Muslims here is academicville. I refused to work for Muslims. Bigot? No! I am a businessman. Experience has taught me that, and I hear the same from others that have had their own exoperiences with them. I have had Muslim friends and neighbors. Not any more.
The only place I see Muslims welcomed with open arms is in academia and unofficial affirmative action hiring practices.
dw
"Ya totally missed my point about arrogance and stupidity a well as lack of education."
This is coming from a high school dropout who accuses me of having integrity.
"We reject Islam as ignorant and incompatable with our Constitution and culture."
Maybe if you weren't such an illiterate shit, you wouldn't be saying it.
"We reject your integrety."
Do you even understand what integrity means, you stupid fuck? Hint: something that you lack.
"hiding a chronic inferioirity complex."
After I proved time and time again my intellectual superiority (especially in comparison to some high school dropout), you still try to project your complexes onto me.
"You have been denouncing our rejections."
No, I have been denouncing your bigotry and stupidity
"Please tell me you knew that."
Knew what? That you were "simply honoing our perspectives and arguements to be sure." I don't even know what this means. Do you have Gibberish to English translator?
"MENSA me this Muslim Moonbat"
Do you even know what "moonbat" means, you dumb shit?
"If honesty is a cultura/moral or idealogical assesment then you are the dishonest one here in our culture."
Coming from a dumb fuck who claims to be honest, yet OKs cheating.
Look dumbfuck,
Arguing with RT presents somewhat of a challenge. Arguing with you is like shooting dead fish in a barrel. Not only it is effortless, but the fish doesn't even feel when it's shot. But I guess trying to explain to a retard a concept of retardation is a waste of time. Besides, I can't really use your quotes, because they are THAT stupid.
"(First rule of MENSA, ya don't talk about MENSA)"
You are truly a stupid fuck. Don't you know that this is a phrase from a movie that had nothing to do with MENSA? I assume they show movies in your shithole, don't they?
You have friends in academia? Just because you mow their yards, doesn't make you their friends.
"I am a businessman."
Please, we both know you are to stupid to be a businessman.
Well it just dawned upon me that I am in fact a stupid fuck. But not in in any sense of the word you might comprehend. It's after twelve, I need to get up early but I am involved in a pissing match just as Papa pointed our about 40 comments ago. I wish you luck in your endeavor. If you actually have one.
You take care. I'm signing out and if I return I will kick my own ass.
If honesty is a cultura/moral or idealogical assesment then you are the dishonest one here in our culture.
Good observation, dw. Now that you got that picture in your mind, he's prolly gonna tell you the part about where he won't lie. Leastwise not about anything having to do with his religion, cuz that's the part of his religion that he's gonna ignore - well... maybe. Until you piss him off, or he gets frustrated because you prove he adores a rock and some of his practices are hold-overs from the stoned age. You know - stone anybody you don't approve of including women who get raped and children who eat food when they're hungry.
Mr. DumbmasIQ - How many pages you got left in the playbook? Any? There's a sucker born every minute. There are none to be found here. Gather up what little you have left of your pride and find someplace else to peddle your belief system. Ol' man mohammed was a late-comer to the game. Too bad he couldn't practice what he preached.
Whooooops. He did.
Your arrogance knows no bounds, does it, mas?
dw - Prolly the best thing to do is simply go to silent running, or... Laugh at the fool, because that's what he's made of himself. It borders on cruelty to continue to feed his Baghdad Bob mentality.
DW: I came to that realization a few posts too late for my sake.
It doesn't make sense to 'discuss' things with 'Chemical Ali' if he's going to end up dead having chosen suicide by hanging . . .
dw
"I wish you luck in your endeavor."
Thank you
I'm cool jus give up here too. This Muslim is doing the only thing Muslims know how to do. Trying to take over. He's trying to come off as a Muslim Redneck? I could care less if he lives or dies but I would not wish any of that Midieval shit put on him if his bud's get him. I would not enjoy hearing of that.
johnnymozart
As any baseless premise you oil embargo argument is lacking of a crucial component: percentage of oil used in the US supplied by OPEC in ’73 and in ’07. And what the fuck does invasion of Afghanistan in ’79 have to do with oil crisis of ’73? What about area 51 and Kennedy assassination? Were they it also connected to ’73 oil crisis? “Bullshit. I don't know which economist is claiming this, but he or she either is stupid or out of date. I've not seen anyone claiming this” Is there a possibility that you’re the one who is stupid? Just a thought. ANWR statistics are provided by ANWR. As for oil shale, the reserves are several times larger than the ones in Saudi Arabia. There are many other ways. Coal to oil is one of them. China has 10 factories that convert coal into oil. America has a shitload of coal. The point is, that America CAN become energy independent without great sacrifice. Even if you do not agree that oil prices will plummet as a result, at least Gulf Sates will not be controlling US foreign policy.
LOL. Well, I've been away for a while. I read this and I was unsure at first whether or not you were joking. Then, reading the subsequent comments, its clear that you truly ARE either galactically stupid, failed Econ 101, or both.
Probably both.
So, for the reading comprehension impaired, here it is again:
percentage of oil used in the US supplied by OPEC in ’73 and in ’07.
I left links to both, but perhaps in your haste to think up a clever insult, you missed it. Or probably couldn't be bothered to read, much less understand. Given the rest of your psychosis you've displayed, I don't find that..... surprising...somehow.
What about area 51 and Kennedy assassination? Were they it also connected to ’73 oil crisis?
Wow, you really are dense. And to cover that fact, you come up with pedestrian insults (I suppose that's what they are) This is really so simple a child could understand it, MAS:. The oil embargo was intended to punish the West for supporting Israel. All it really did, if you read the writings of the Russian government at the time, was make the Russian leery that they needed a cheap supply. So all the embargo really did for Muslims was ended up getting a bunch of their brethren in Afghanistan killed as a direct result of it.
You know, the really funny part is that by trying to draw parallels to things you are trying to allude are unrelated, like JFK's assassination, you only continue to prove how simple and small-minded you are, which is what you seem to pride yourself on saying about us.
Must be embarrassing to be dumber than a redneck, huh?
“Bullshit. I don't know which economist is claiming this, but he or she either is stupid or out of date. I've not seen anyone claiming this” Is there a possibility that you’re the one who is stupid? ANWR statistics are provided by ANWR.
And yet, no link. What a shock.
As for oil shale, the reserves are several times larger than the ones in Saudi Arabia.
Sweet Mother of Dubya. You are one stupid fuckin' individual, aren't you? Dumber even that I thought. I never said it wasn't, dickhead, what I said was it doesn't matter if the cost to get it out of the fuckin' ground and refine it is more than it is to buy it from Saudi Arabia. It doesn't matter if its thirty times the size, it will remain in the ground. This is fuckin' Econ 101. Maybe you can pass this time. Idiot.
Gee RT, I was beginning to get worried about the WOT, but if all Muslims are as dumb as this guy, and he's one of the "smart" ones?
Well gosh, then I think we're in pretty good shape.
Ta Ta. Bonehead.
johnnymozart. Soon as I dry out my keyboard, here...
/takes deep breath. There.
You crack me up.
...you come up with pedestrian insults...Actually. He rides a Moped.
He was poked so many times with the BullShiite Detector, he now carries a tire repair kit and hand pump.
i am a blog friend of wild bill and alabama mountain man - i'm curious - does this "70.107.88.# (Verizon Internet Services)" ip addy look familiar to you?
we have a troll running about the www who is also an imposter in that "it" posts under different names but two different ip addies - one out of the bronx and the other out of nyc.
i'll be back later to see if you respond to this post.
thank you for your time.
Nope...... it dont match anyone's I have ever seen here.
The 2 addies is probably home and work..... if they trend AM one addy PM the other.
Hey Doc, I layed 6 floors last week. 4 were baths and I cleaned and set them toilets like a charm. lol I tried real hard to feel low and himiliated but ended up a laffin all the way to the bank.
Hi nance I have sen you here and there and at Bill's place. How ya doin.
i couldn't be better if i were quintuplets!
thankx for the timely response - be on the lookout for that ip - she's a doozie!
wild bill and alabama mt. man can confirm that.
Jeez, I figured that ya'll would have fun with this guy, but I never imagined how much.
I was tempted join the fun a long time ago, but didn't, as ya'll were enjoying this imposter way too much, and I have a way of getting too serious too soon.
But, you know, one thing for certain, is that this is the first fake Muslim I have seen that had so much persistence. Well, maybe not, but one thing for sure that we know, is that he is just a crooked, dishonest moonbat.
You guys are without equal.
Papa Ray
Hey, dumbfucks, why did you stop writing? I could use more pearls like "Russians invaded Afghanistan for cheap oil."
Constant attacks from the Left do not make us look "fair and balanced", so get off your asses and say something stupid.
I see that you did... Got off your ass and said something stupid.
cap'no'dick,
Thank God dumbshits like you do not represent majority.
Thank God dumbshits like you do not represent majority.
You continue to puke at will, MASh. Amazing how your PieHole works.
How's that Slicin' and Dicin' of the koran goin' for ya?
And to think that only 20% of your 'fellow' mohammedans want you dead. I wonder just who came up with that fookin' statistic? How many inbred ingrates did they question, besides you?
Impressive, your fooling your way up the ladder, but I didn't see anything about a conservative majority wanting a high profile Muslim political subculture in America gloating and strutting around like a Nobel peace prize winner that saved our poor asses from their sociopathic brethren. Your interests are Muslim. Islam is, and always has been, peaceful or not, antagonistic to everybody and everything on earth that has to do with 'fellow man'.
I already know your response. "You are to fucking stupid to asses anything". As I am diametrically opposed to your beliefs. Your belief that I am stupid inspires me.
Nobody here believes Russians invaded Afghanistan for oil. What is that? You posted that to impress your buds when you direrct them to this thread?
dw:
"I didn't see anything about a conservative majority wanting a high profile Muslim political subculture in America"
Maybe if you weren't that dumb, you would have realized by now that we want to separate religion from public life in general and from politics in particular. As for Russians invading Afghanistan for oil, it was one of the contentions of your fellow morons posted on another RT thread.
K.
See you still got shit dripping from your mouth. Can’t teach a 7th century idiot new tricks.
Another asswipe with no balls. Figures.
