But how can you question the court?
In their wisdom, they have restricted prayer in schools and the teaching of creationism in any form
And you cheered. You were quite willing to let five men rule our lives.
Now you are screwed!
This is all very easy to explain. Christian fundamentalists don't want to send their children to school with no goddam niggers.
Having been surrounded by rednecks while growing up in South Carolina, I can verify that, yes, this is indeed how these clowns think. Fundamentalists sicken me.
I cheer when the spirit of this country is enshrined in law and legal tradition. Turning schools into extensions of churches is most definitely NOT in that spirit.
And the bit about banning prayer in schools is pure bullshit. My public high school graduation ceremony had a prayer. So did the one I covered as a newspaper reporter ten years later. Neither school put the prayer on the "official" program, and nobody complained, so it was all wink-wink-nudge-nudge.
Teaching creationism is schools is a red herring. Unless you go to a parochial school, religion classes are not offered, and creationism is most emphatically NOT science.
So you lose on both counts, yb. Any more bullshit theocon talking points you want shot down? Or have you trying to cut back on your self-inflicted "persecution" complex, trolly?
You cheer when the supreme court votes the way you want, but cry when it outlaws busing, or forced integration.
Do you think the ruling elite will allow their children to bused to under performing inner schools?
R u prepared to have YOUR children bused to a under performing school or r u like Kennedy and send your to an elite private school
However, cubicle girl, you know good and well that if someone like the FFRF had complained, there would have been trouble.
Who ya kiddin?
As for the ruling elite, their kids go to private schools...bussing isn't even an issue.
I'm no artist and certainly not a cartoonist. I need someone to make a cartoon for me.
It shows Justice Clarence Thomas trying to enter the Supreme Court building to go to work.
The only problem is a new sign over the door that reads
Whites Only
(by order of J. Roberts)
What is "FFRF"? For love's sake, this 'Comments' doesn't require text messaging or "in" acronyms. Please write it out so those of us over 40 can understand you.
You mean the Freedom from Religion Foundation yb? In all your name-changing on this board (heck, on this thread, from the looks of it), you surely would have noticed me taking issue when I didn't agree with Pat or other folks here.
Anyone who's been around here long enough knows that I've mixed it up. So either you're ignorant, weren't paying attention, or a liar. Take your pick. It's all the same to me. You're immature and stubbornly parochial to me, whatever you care to call yourself.
Oh, and by the bye: You and your alter-ego have branded yourself a racist too. When you can't dig yourself in any deeper, start hitting yourself over the head with the shovel, why doncha?
IMO the Supreme Court got it right in that ruling of last June 28. The basic principle of Brown v. Board of Education is that students may not be assigned to schools on the basis of race. The June 28 ruling is consistent with that principle.
The Supreme Court giveth.
The Supreme Court taketh away.
Blessed be the name of the court.
While I understand the essential relationship of fundamentalism and ignorance, I don't understand why conservative Christians are usually such bigots.
Also don't get why vermin are so attracted to an unused room, nasty problem. DeCon might work, but I don't like the thought of them dying in the walls.
To do that they've learned to appropriate the language of the civil rights fighters they once opposed. These days they talk more about Lincoln and diversity than race mixing and miscegenation. Neighborhood schools have replaced state's rights.
I am a white man married to a black woman. We have two kids. We are also Conservative Christians. We are members of a black church. I oppose race-based preferences, my wife doesn't. It's unclear why that makes me a racist. She certainly doesn't consider me one.
Justice is an individual right, not a "group right".
My guess is that you are an inveterate liar, scurrying out for some crumbs. In the off chance you're real, why don't you get some help for your kids, before they inhabit the hell that you do?
Larry Fafarman - crawled back out of your faux engineering bunker to gloat?
Well, retired engineer boy, you are a Protestant. The five Roman Catholics on the SCT are about to make mincemeat out of your false faith. The Pope stated as much just six (6) days ago.
Come October, the five Romans are going to open up on the non-Catholics.
If you enjoyed the sloppy operations of the Regent Law School Grads (where IQ and academic rigor are secondary to blind faith - just listen to Monica Goodling's testimony) you are going to be shocked by the rigor and quality of the Roman's rulings. You see, all other things being equal, the Parochial School educations these men had are vastly superior to the fluffernutter Christian private schools the Goodlings attended.
YB - you're in the target, too. Crowing about one cutback in civil liberty is like applauding Hitler cracking down on the gays. You're not gay so you applaud that act - until finally they come for you. And come for you they will. Rest assured, Pope Benedict wants more Father Coghlans and no Berrigan brothers.
Your sliver of protestantism is merely up for grabs now - who will bring the suit that outlaws your faith's tax exemption? That's what is going to happen. Bush put the churches onto the government teat with his "faith-based initiatives" and you can be certain that the money will be concentrated in the Roman Catholic church and not yours. The Roman Catholic Church is a cohesive body with an infallible leader. They will elbow aside every other faith at the trough of tax dollars.
Be careful how you boys snicker - today you're happy - next time it is your turn to cry.
Larry and Russ, just out of curiosity, what do you think the real problem is, then? If you say it is a society that segregates itself by not wanting to live next to each other and get to know each other, then I would agree with you.
Yabadabado is wrong. I'm not going to whine about this ruling - I'm merely going to pose the question as to how we achieve an integrated and just society in light of this ruling.
I've spoken to liberal-minded parents who were not thrilled about busing, either - their kids had trouble making friends and participating in after school activities, which ironically prevented their rubbing shoulders in a casual manner with the very people they were supposed to get to know. All right, now that the Supreme Court has removed this requirement, what do we do now?
K,
The very object of the ruling is counter justice. Congress has the duty to step up to the plate (finally) and set this right. The Firestone pay case has a bill in both houses - The House of Representatives passed their version yesterday.
National Employment Lawyers Association Applauds Passage of Ledbetter Fair Pay Act by House of Representatives
This afternoon, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 2831, the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2007, which reinstates the "paycheck accrual rule" in effect for employment discrimination cases prior to the U.S. Supreme Court's recent ruling in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company. The vote on final passage was 225 for the bill (223 Democrats and two Republicans) and 199 against it (193 Republicans and 6 Democrats). The two Republicans voting for the bill were Representatives Chris Shays (CT) and Don Young (AK); the six Democrats voting against it were Representatives Dan Boren (OK), Allen Boyd (FL), ****Nancy Boyda (KS)****, Robert Cramer (AL), Nick Lampson (TX), and Timothy Mahoney (FL).
"Passage of this bill is a crucial first step toward righting the wrong done by the Supreme Court in its disastrous Ledbetter ruling," says Kathleen L. Bogas, President of the National Employment Lawyers Association (NELA). "The bill provides that each time an employee receives a discriminatory paycheck, she is subject to another instance of discrimination. If the law were otherwise, employers would be able to escape accountability for pay discrimination simply by making sure that the employee doesn’t become aware of the discrimination until after the statute of limitations has expired."
"With this quick and decisive action, the House leadership showed its determination both to overturn Supreme Court decisions that misinterpret Congressional intent and to protect workers from pay discrimination," adds NELA Executive Director Terisa E. Chaw. "NELA applauds the quick action taken by Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Hoyer, and Chairman Miller in getting this bill passed."
A companion bill, S. 1843, the Fair Pay Restoration Act of 2007, was introduced in the Senate on July 20, 2007. NELA strongly urges Senators to vote for S. 1843 when it comes before them.
FWIW the fundie nuts rely on the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel as the basis for segregation (that's after the "Cain killed Able and God turned Cain Black" horsepucky was generally rejected.
Frankly, I'm for segregation - put the religious fundies all on a big iceberg and forgetabout them - their God will make it safe - or, not. I just don't think that there is a big enough iceberg for them all....
Try reading John Dean's The Conscience of Conservatives - and learn about the "F" score. about 20% of the population needs a strong, dictatorial father figure. They are a massive danger to civilization. Most, if not all, are religious fundies.
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