I'd like to know how much Dembski and Behe get paid for these screeds.
This stuff has to be driven by the profit motive.
George wrote:
I'd like to know how much Dembski and Behe get paid for these screeds.
This stuff has to be driven by the profit motive.
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Yeah, and the money better be good, because otherwise it would really suck to be Dembski.
And in that retraction, Dembski specifically states:
In addition to getting certain facts wrong (not all of them: Padian in his letter above does not dispute that he singled out “young” “Asian” “fundamentalists” as supporters of ID), I also wish to apologize for engaging in an ad hominem against him (I called him a “bigot” and compared him to Archie Bunker).
Even though he has expunged from UD the entries which called Padian a racist and compared him, on those grounds, to Archie Bunker, he has continued to use the "Archie Bunker" epithet, in this latest entry and another one he links to from there, pretending that it means nothing more than "unsophisticated."
What a contemptible little man.
Bill. Stifle! 
Just how far, ethically and morally are Demski and Hovind from Fred Phelps? Both are willing to pervert the Bible to their own ends, both are, IMHO, disgusting examples of humanity.
At least Demski isn't quite this repulsive - yet...
Although in a way, Demski's actions are more dangerous, and insidious than Phelps'. Since Demski is (or pretends to be) more reasonable, people don't have as much of a revulsion when they listen to him or read his writings, which allows him to sow doubt in the minds of the uneducated.
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Hovind lies somewhere in the middle, it seems to me, less disgusting than Phelps, more obviously a liar than Demski...
I saw Dembski once, at the last DDD conference held in KC. Within the first few minutes, the audience's enthusiasm had turned to boredom. His presentation is eye-glazing. Especially when he talks math that his audience can't possibly comprehend. Not that they're dumb or uneducated (which some were), but most normal people do not understand higher mathematics. Someone needs to teach Dembski how to talk to humans. Oh, and how to be truthful.
Dembski's caricature of Kevin Padian is as pathetic as Ann Coulter attacking Jack Murtha's service record.
Kevin Padian is a dinosaur expert of world renown, biology professor at UC Berkeley, and curator of their paleontology museum. (Also an undergraduate classmate of mine.)
Dembski is a "research professor in philosophy" at a small bible college.
Padian excavates fossils worldwide, and is often published in Nature, Science, and National Geographic.
Dembski mines quotes from his armchair, makes pedestrian caricatures with his computer, and is often cited by the AIG website.
Padian was an integral member of the winning team at Dover that reversed the mounting assault on science education. Dembski was a no-show for the losers.
So I think this kind of trash is more a matter of ugly jealousy than money. Kevin Padian is president of NCSE, an enormously successful scientist and educator.
Dembski's a loser, fired from his last real job, taken seriously only by zealots and quacks.
The only thing between him and obscurity is the controvery he manufactures. Just like Ann Coulter.
"The only thing between him and obscurity is the controvery he manufactures. Just like Ann Coulter."
And, just like Ann Coulter, we can expect him to get even more shrill and wacky as his reputation and influence continue their slow decline.
It won't be pretty...
"So I think this kind of trash is more a matter of ugly jealousy than money."
I think you hit the nail right on the head. He has an ego as big as a galaxy. He believes that he'd be rich and famous beyond all measure now, were it not for those mean old scientists.
-KAS
We could run Dembski's hypocritical statements through his design filter by now, given the preponderance of data. Pat probably has a template for these kinds of posts by now.
It's rather depressing, actually, to look back upon the kindly Sunday School ladies of my youth and contrast them with what industrialized religion has done to this country in the last three decades or so. It's devolved from "Do unto others" to "Do as I say, not as I do."
I think it's still "Do unto others," only followed by "BEFORE they do it to you!"
IOW - from golden rule to paranoia...
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