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Is it really wrong that I don't know who he is? I mean, I'm gay and I also do okay at Jeopardy.....
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02.16.06 - 11:42 am | #
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God...I was wondering if I was the only one who caught that interview.
Could he have been any more of a screaming kween?
I totally wanted to call bullshit when he said that he wasn't a Diva.
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02.16.06 - 11:42 am | #
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I saw that interview and thought the skater was female. No joke.
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02.16.06 - 11:43 am | #
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Do you guys realize how big a deal it was for NBC to be that in your face with their profile of him as "flamer"- that is why we gave him props for telling people to "eat it"- we know he meant cobag. Now when all the gay guys start playing patriarchy and crap on him because yeah, when the entertainment industry shows gays they are all like Jack on Will and GRace, but in this case they showed a REAL person during the Olympics, not just during GAY TIME. (well, it is men's figure skating, so there you go). BUT, I was prepared to hate him too for being annoying...until he a) told people to "eat it" probably because they want him to hide his gay and b) he actually nailed his performance like Digby.
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02.16.06 - 12:13 pm | #
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"he actually nailed his performance like Digby."

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02.16.06 - 12:21 pm | #
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Midniter, UC said the same exact thing when he said and we both thought he was a Hughes sister.
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02.16.06 - 12:25 pm | #
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I'm with Pinko on this one. If it's okay to be gay only insofar as you conform to heterosexist gender ideals, then patriarchy pretty much remains undisturbed. True liberation means that there's room for the queenie boys too. Also, when I was his age, there's no way that someone like him would have been on national TV...or on the US olympic team. So props to Johnny. And as for being a diva, hello, he's a fucking FIGURE SKATER.
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02.16.06 - 1:02 pm | #
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I disagree, I think he not only mocked himself, but NBC mocked gay culture. If NBC had really cared, maybe they wouldn't be like the Brokeback Mountain wimps and hide it, but not really, but really. Do more than show him driving around town not saying it, but saying it. Put together a piece on what is was like to be gay and destined for Olympic Gold. Thereby giving the kids out there who are still in the closet something real and tangible. Not Hollywood diamonds and pearls.
All I am suggesting here is let's show real people, not glitter boi bitches. If he showed his true self, fine. However, driving around in his Escalade talking about being a Diva for TV is not real. It's about as real as gays on MTV's Real World. Real is pain and pride. Fear and courage. Challenges, set backs and come backs.
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02.16.06 - 1:16 pm | #
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Well now I'm not sure what you're complaint is, exactly. Are you taking issue with NBC? Or taking issue with him? Should NBC have gotten someone more "real" (and less girly) to be on the US team?
I think the network is fair game, but I have a problem with gender-smears against Weir. Sure, he "talks big", but then what 21-year-old kid doesn't? And yeah, he's flamboyant, but hello, once again, MALE FIGURE SKATER...that's Liberace on ice, folks, nothing new here.
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02.16.06 - 1:41 pm | #
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I have issue with him and NBC. I also agree, he's a little 21 year punk ass.
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02.16.06 - 1:52 pm | #
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also, that should have read "what your complaint is, exactly". I'm retarded.
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02.16.06 - 2:07 pm | #
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With res and PP here. I mean, they had Weir posed like Truman Capote-on-a-settee in the opening shots of that Profile (Very Up Close and Just Not Too Personal, this time), and it is fucking Men's Figure Skating. And the guy is in medal contention, so they'll be playing it again. I haven't paid any attention to skating since, probably, the last Olympics, so I don't know who any of these kids is. Still, a profile like that is a long way from the dear old days of deep-closeted coding.
I'd be hard pressed at this point in my life to go the kweeny route - that would be a sad, sad travesty, I assure you - but I'm not going to wince if Johnny stands up there and makes it work for himself. Teh Gay should be available in all flavors.
Besides, I rather liked that b&w scarf he was wearing toward the end, and after his short program, waiting for the scores, he looked happy, waving to Mom (based on lip-reading here), and very unDiva-ish.
What hurt was that now we have a notion of what Dick Button's dining room drapery looks like - ouch!
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02.16.06 - 2:10 pm | #
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AG - those profile pieces falsify everyone they touch - str8 as well as gay. Is there anyone who hasn't hated them since their inception? I do not think Weir's is particularly egregious - Weir himself seems to know exactly what the form demands, and he plays to it.
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02.16.06 - 2:18 pm | #
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I think my main complaint isn't so much that he was fem or flamy, but rather that for as much as he kept saying that he wasn't a diva, he sure did come across as one. And it's okay to be a diva, but don't try to pretend that you're not.
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02.16.06 - 2:33 pm | #
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Shoot. I missed the gay man being interviewed.
Then again, I only have eyes for Bode -- win or lose -- it's Bode-time-all-the-time for moi.
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02.16.06 - 3:06 pm | #
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I felt bad that poor Jeremy didn't do better last night. I would've kissed it and made it all better.
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02.16.06 - 3:21 pm | #
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Okay, so yeah, I saw it too, and that little bitch worked my last nerve, but only because he had the same self-centered, I'm-fabulous, look-how-interesting-I-am attitude that every twat, boy or girl, gay or straight, has on those stupid MTV "reality" shows.
Bitch was *this close* to being Bobby Fuckin' Trendy. Only with talent, ya see...
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02.16.06 - 3:40 pm | #
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Okay, so yeah, I saw it too, and that little bitch worked my last nerve, but only because he had the same self-centered, I'm-fabulous, look-how-interesting-I-am attitude that every twat, boy or girl, gay or straight, has on those stupid MTV "reality" shows.
Bitch was *this close* to being Bobby Fuckin' Trendy. Only with talent, ya see...
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02.16.06 - 3:40 pm | #
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I thought Bobby Trendy's 15 minutes were long up.
And what the fuck, teh...where's my pr0n?
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02.16.06 - 5:14 pm | #
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fuck porn. I'm sick, the last thing I want to look at is a bunch of probably-germ-infested cock.
Also, pack yer bags, because the Republic is a-movin' in a week or so. Maybe sooner, depends on how soon I figure out WordPress. But the domain is registered, the hosting paid for, and WordPress is installed.
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02.16.06 - 5:18 pm | #
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rp you STUD!
IF you figure out anything cool let me know- I haven't had time for anything- you need to get someone to help with moving the haloscan comments over- it shouldn't be a prob, except blogger can crap out ont he export- e-me and we'll talk.
On the Weir thing- listen- if he clearly were just some cobag that didn't try really hard to excel then I woul dhave been annoyed- BUT he goddamn nailed it like Diigby, seriously, when he probably has almost no shot at Gold because the Russian guy is basically the best ever, think about the pressure- he still went out there and did it, and you don't think there is more pressure on Weir being in your face gay in a sport where there have been tons of the gay but it's been don't talk/don't tell? Of course he's going to overdo it- his mental role models are probably many female figure skaters and the patriarchy demands queeny and bithcy of them, why would it not of the gay male in this case? Of course the patriarchy is acting on him, BUT it was a HUGE HUGE HUGE step for NBC to show that and after showing it, have the commenters basically behind the guy- that is tacit approval.
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02.16.06 - 6:23 pm | #
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Moving? WTF?!!
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02.16.06 - 6:29 pm | #
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a) The Move - are ya gonna have Registration? I still can't get a new password at Pandagon - grrrrr!
b) TBogg has the latest on Johnny-Boy - spoiler alert - The Diva Cometh...
Like none of us hasn't seen that before...
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02.16.06 - 9:02 pm | #
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Wow, I'm pretty amazed at the comments there too. I'm not a Tbogg reader, so maybe someone can tell me: does he usually let people call others "fags" in his comment section?
res publica |
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02.16.06 - 10:04 pm | #
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I think the idea is it's okay if a fellow "fag" does it. But I so rarely go over there any more...
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02.16.06 - 10:39 pm | #
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I could call you a fag if it helps.
Boi bitch got smacked down in his skating last night. He was such a creep-toid about it when he got his scores and just walked off refusing to wave to the crowd. UC was all, "I am NOT watching that post interview." AG snorted back, "Yeah right he'll give an interview."
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