The PC police really do not care about Christians. They are just so PC these days it is sick.
Oh, come on, this kind of thing happens here all the time as well. And, of course it's America's fault. Now I can't think of why at the moment, but it'll come to me. One of Bush's policies or something, I'm sure. And these beheaders probably came from poverty, so c'mon, it's not really their fault, and it's to be expected.
Just a little more tolerance and love and understanding and "giving in" to these people is all we need to do. Really. Seriously.
Things like this is why I hate the theocracy label as it is used against Christians. Sparkle, I havent been able to view the video yet either. I dont know if I will.
And what about those bombings in New Delhi? I think the death toll is up to 65 and over 50 injured, including many children.
But I doubt it was islamic terrorists. I mean, how could it be? They are the religion of peace.
heck I've heard my President reassure me they are peaceful.
gotta be extremists. Not mainstreamers.
Well, I checked it out. Just for the record, it's an image and not a video unless I was looking at the wrong link. How incredibly tragic.
Sparkle, I don't think it will get any coverage. It won't demoralize our troops and they're just Christians anyway ... right ACLU?
LOL Jill! I couldn't agree with you more. I think we have a radical group of Swedes who need to be whacked. The peace-loving Islamists have been blamed for too much for too long. * cough *
Dave in Texas, how do you define "mainstream"?
This is disgusting no matter what religion any of them are. I could care less if they were atheists being strung up by "Christians." This is just wrong.
exactly WOM, and should be treated with as much outrage as anything like it.
Nothing will be done. Not because they are Chritians, but because they are not American Christians and that country has nothing financial to offer...no oil.
There was loads of headless people in Bosnia too... but what goes through the mind of the person doing the hacking? What can possibly make them think it's right?
These are definitely acts of the individual and little to do with any real faith...
Do they watch there subjects, animated and alive before they kill them? do they get a sense of power form the act?
At what point do they lose sleep - as sooner or later they will..
So many questions - but then we're all of reasonable mind to ask - unlike them.
"Nothing will be done. Not because they are Chritians, but because they are not American Christians and that country has nothing financial to offer...no oil."
Actually Indonesia has all kinds of resources, including oil - or do you think that only Arabs have oil?
While I was in college, one of the big fashionable causes was East Timor. The party line was that evil America had sold them down the river to the fascist Indonesians (who hated them for no apparent reason), in the person of Pres Suharto, with whow Bush I and Mulroney had strong ties. Turns out this was kind of true - after Portugal cut them loose, they looked to be going Maoist, so both the US and the USSR gave the Indonesians the green light. What happened next was 30 years of rather bloody occupation and ethnic cleansing. The part that all the smelly hippies on campus somehow forgot to mention was that a lot if not most of the Indonesian hatred for the Timorese sprang from the fact that the Timorese are, in the main, Roman Catholics. Funny how that never got mentioned.
WOM,
What about atheists stringing up Muslim or Christian?
The deliberate killing of young women and men for believing differently is something to be outraged at.
Holdfast, thanks for setting "Rikki Lee" (whovever that is) straight. These lefty clowns think they're being so cute and sarcastic about something (there being no oil) and yet they prove they don't know what they are talking about. Since they can't blame Americans for the gruesome behavior of this group, they try to make a sarcastic swipe at America for what they won't do as a result. Always gotta get in the digs at America. Always. This is why I loathe these people. And they ARE anti-American.
I wish that if we have to put up with trolls, we'd at least get some informed ones. Geeez.
I also always question people who say "oil" as if it were a bad thing instead of a vital thing.
When somone stops heating their home in winter and airconditioning their house in summer and stops driving a car, taking a bus, or flying on an airplane, THEN they can complain about where and how we get our oil.
Geeze.
how do you define "mainstream"?
I don't GE, but it keeps getting defined for me as "a religion of peace".
If I never heard that stupid expression again for the rest of my life, that would be fine with me.
RWS, right on, sista! 
Without oil, how would the anti american war protesters get to their protest destinations? Those buses don't run on anger, baby.
oh, and RWS, don't look at the pictures.
just don't. ladies, same advice.
U.P. Man, exactly. agreed.
jill: "Without oil, how would the anti american war protesters get to their protest destinations? Those buses don't run on anger, baby."
Jill, have you ever heard of Biodiesel? This alternative to fossil fuel is made here in the great USA by our own farmers and entrepeneurs. They've been using it in Europe at a significant scale for quite some time now. It's cleaner than fossil fuel, releases no net carbon dioxide and far fewer other green house gases, and is renewable. It even cleans the engines out in old trucks and buses prolonging their engine life. I'm not saying all of these protesters are using it, but they could be. I drove today using B80 (80% biodiesel) so most of my money not's going to the middle east, it stays right here in the US. Fossil fuel is dino-diesel, biodiesel is the future.
Jill, Sorry, just "Biodiesel" was supposed to be bold. Btw, did you get to use the italics/bold feature yet?
Then WOM,
Why didn't you say that? Instead your made your point be all religion is bad.
Have you looked at bio-diesel? I have.
(Yes, I see that you drove with B80)
In order to run efficiently, it has to be warmed to 80 farenhiet. It has some very nasty waste products from the refining process.
Also, current demand for Bio-diesel is low. WHat will happen to the price when it goes up? Where will the processing plant be built to produce it? (NIMBY) How energy efficient is to change those vegetable oils into dio-diesel?
WOm also, remember all these special polluton control blends that the country has? How many of them is the additive somebodies patented formula?
Before you say that the companies should be made to allow the use of their formula, get the Coke recipe, the Colonel's recipe and Mcdonald secrest sauce?
U.P Man. Thanks for showing why we are conservatives. We think things through.
jill, did you get to use the italics/bold features you asked about? Not sure whether you saw my instructions. Just trying to think things through
U.P. Man, I never said all religion is bad, I would have no reason to, baptized lutheran, raised episcopalian (in meechigan).
I run B5, B20, B80, and B100 in my 2005 Golf TDI without any engine modifications/conversions. It's grassoline, man! I have no efficiency problems, I get 45 mpg with biodiesel or regular diesel and I can mix them in any ratio I want. I don't need to heat any fuel to 80 degrees, I just fill up and away I go. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe you have read things like what you wrote, but my daily commute proves otherwise.
Biodiesel is more biodegradable than sugar and less toxic than table salt. I don't make it myself regularly so I'm not aware of the waste products you refer to, but I'll look them up and let you know how they compare to Fossil Fuel waste products. Can't imagine they're even as close to as nasty as FF. I made a liter of biodiesel this summer and all I needed was vegetable oil, alittle bit of methanol, and tiny bit of lye from the hardware store. The only waste product was some glycerin which can be made into soap for use around the house or easily disposed. People make biodiesel at home for 50 cents/gal.
Price? I bought biodiesel (B20) on a trip to Michigan right after Katrina for $2.23/gal when regular diesel and gas were above $3.00. Like any other emerging product, as demand increases supply increases and price drops due to economies of scale. That's why biodiesel is cheaper in Europe than regular diesel, because it's widely produced and used.
That's just the monetary cost savings though. There are other effects from using biodiesel for health (it's much safer to produce, use, less cancer causing pollution), it reduces the greenhouse effect, and it requires no stabilization of the middle east, no dependence on foreign oil or coastal refineries.
Demand? Biodiesel is the fastest growing fuel for trucking, and it's also the fastest growing alternative fuel. More and more states are getting on board.
The idea is that every state that can grow crops can grow their own biodiesel. So not even Alaska needs ANWR. That means more jobs, more work for our farmers and less money going to the middle east. In fact, when Rudolph Diesel invented the diesel engine he thought farmers would be able to just grow their own fuel. He showcased his new engine using biodiesel from peanut oil back in 1898.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about biodiesel. I jump at every chance I can get because this is a true part of the solution. That's what us americans do best, we solve problems.
Great response, Dave in Texas, on the "mainstream" queston. I always find it hilarious that the minority party lecture us on what is "mainstream".
I also can't take anyone serious who says the Iraq War is about oil. The war is based on terrorism, not oil. Oil is important but that is not the driving force behind the war.
WOM,
I spent free hours at work looking for the waste gas that is given off during the processing of Biodiesal. Only found one site that said to be careful not to breathe the fumes as they are harmful.
Also, methanol and lye used to process the oil is dangerous stuff in itself.
I think you mistyped when you said you use biodiesel in your gasoline car with no conversion. Unless it was design to be a multifuel vehicle you can't burn diesel and gasoline in the same vehicle.
Last, in the North unrefined biodiesel won't work for a good portion of the year. Just to cold any many of the trips are of to short a duration to heat the bio-diesel up.
U.P. Man, I typed "grassoline" (not gasoline) which is a nickname for biodiesel-you know, "gas" from grass. But yes, you are right, biodiesel runs in any diesel engine (not gas engine), and requires no engine modifications. My VW Golf tdi runs on diesel and biodiesel, interchangeably or in any mixture. In fact, biodiesel is actually really good for diesel engines because it lubricates the engine in ways that fossil fuel diesel can't.
The only waste product from making biodiesel is glycerine which is safe and has value because it is used to make soap according to the National Biodiesel Board
The fumes smell like french fries and have far fewer harmful effects than other fumes from diesel or gas engines (48% less carbon monoxide, 50-95% less cancer causing emissions, 47% less hazardous particulates, and 67% less smog hydrocarbons -also from NBB).
If you live in the U.P. (MI) then you would only have to add a simple diesel fuel additive to your biodiesel and/or use a lower blend like B20 from Nov-Mar which a lot of people do. Diesel gets the same fuel additive put in during the winter in colder regions. Biodiesel is far more popular in the MidWest and Minnesota is one of the pioneering states where it gets just as cold. People use Biodiesel there all winter long without problems. As far as heating the biodiesel up, I think you're confusing that with people who convert their diesel cars to run on straight vegetable oil which is another level of complexity and which makes cold months more difficult. I don't bother with all that extra stuff, I just fill up with biodiesel and use the car the same as I would with diesel.
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