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Yankee fans who gloat over this idea simply have no class.
Hoping to win by encouraging an opposing injury is low -- Tonya Harding low.
There's a big difference between taking pitches when the opponent is wild, and trying to induce the pitcher to get hurt.
Ask yourself: Will Yankees fans applaud if this comes to pass?
It looks desperate. It makes it look like Yankees fans are afraid you can't win fair and square.
Maybe a few more umpire assists is what you need.
Smack talk like this will come to haunt you, same way it haunted Gary Shefflied last night. Maybe you should worry about him, instead of trying to encourage injuries. That's unsportsmanlike.
Over and out.
You're being a moron. The Yankees aren't doing anything that's NOT A NORMAL PART OF THE GAME.
If he gets hurt playing, he shouldn't be out there.
If he gets hurt, I won't cheer because he's hurt, I'll cheer because he's out of the game.
If other Yankees fans are hoping he gets hurt, why are you attacking the Yankees for this? You're being a partisan fool.
I'm a Sox fan and I agree with Larry here...
If a player like Pedro, because of previous injuries and general durability, can't go over 110 pitches or so. For the Yankees to intentionally take pitches early in the game hoping Pedro can't last many innings is bush league in my opinion. You know you can't beat him when he's fresh so you desperately try to wear him out and face a weaker pitcher. From a team that tries to be all about pride, you remind me of summer vacation: NO CLASS!
Once Schilling takes the field tonight he is saying he is ready for any and every thing that can come his way. I'm fairly sure that Schilling would agree that bunting is fair game.
As a life-long Sox fan, I cannot belive some of the comments about this issue - coming from whom I assume are also Sox fans.
Baseball and sports in general are about finding the matchups you can exploit and trying to take advantage of them. If Pedro can't pitch effectively after 107 pitches - then take pitches to get the count up. If Schill can't get off of the mound tonight to feild bunts - then bunt.
All is fair in love and war....and this is war.
I am into champagne, your comments are ridiculous. Its like when Pete Rose claimed Gene Garber wasn't manly because he ended Rose's hit streak with a change-up instead of a fastball. Never mind that a change up was Garber's out pitch. Yes, it's bush league to work the count. What an amazing load of horseshit.
Also, how is bunting on a pitcher who can't move well not playing "fair and square?" If the Yankees had a catcher with an injured shoulder, wouldn't you want the Red Sox to run on him? It's no different. No one's trying to get anyone injured - you're trying to exploit any weakness you can find in your opponent.
Working the count is bushleague? right then so is throwing curveballs in fastball counts. What wrong with Pedro isn't he tough enough to just throw the fastball up there and see what happens.
I really don't like to insult people I don't know, but that is the stupidest thing I've heard in YEARS.
Bunting on a guy with a bad ankle is just like winning at H-O-R-S-E by doing dunks against a short guy. You're afraid to actually compete against him and resort to desperate gimmicks and tricks to weasel out a victory.
If the Yankees do this they'll be like a man with his tongue cut out: NO TASTE!
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That guy and other Red Sox fans who think that way are dumbasses. They would do the same exact thing if Mussina had an ankle problem. I didn't notice any outrage when Pedro deliberately hit ARod.
Bunting on a guy with a bad ankle is just like winning at H-O-R-S-E by doing dunks against a short guy. You're afraid to actually compete against him and resort to desperate gimmicks and tricks to weasel out a victory.
Isn't not playing your best against the short guy really demeaning to the short guy?
We're not playing in the back yard here, skippy. This is the American League Championship Series.
What a bunch of whiners you are.
I love being called gutless by guys who post anonymously with no e-mail link. Yeah, you're the embodiment of guts and class, lecture us some more.
Look, the bunt story is most likely garbage anyway. Yeah, I can see Cairo, Lofton, Jeter possibly trying to drop a drag bunt or two, but that's it. But it's an entirely reasonable thing to do and to think otherwise is just being partisan to the nth degree.
Beta Ray Thor is apparently someone who regularly posts here. And took the other side of this argument.
Or someone using the same computer.
Even if he loses....he still wins.
Curt Schilling should relish tonight because it's impossible for him to look bad. If he pitches well, "He won the game even though he's injured, he's AWESOME!!!" If, on the other hand, he gets rocked, "Well, he's got a lot of heart but nobody could pitch through that pain."
This is why Allen Iverson is always claiming to be injured. If he plays well, he's a hero, if he sucks, he blames it on the injury and he's STILL a hero.
Claiming he's injured is the greatest way for an athlete to boost press and innoculate himself from criticism.
I love being called gutless by guys who post anonymously with no e-mail link.
Judging by your blog that's likely a literal statement.
Anyway, with both the Pedro and H-O-R-S-E comments I was trying to be as absurd as the original criticism in an obviously fake way. Stay loose - the Boston fans are getting in your head.
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Big Brother in da house.
Bunt away, particularly 2-4. All things are fair, and this Sox fan would rather see bunts from the same guys who have scored 6,000 runs this series.
Larry, you're right and that idiot is wrong, but it's a bit myopic to write that one guy somehow represents Red Sox fans.
Hope it's another entertaining game tonight. The blog has been great throughout the series.
I am into champagne, I should have detected the facetiousness in your post - it was over the top goofy, and I should have given you the benefit of the doubt (I've seen you post here a lot). The rantier post was more aimed at Beta Ray Thor. Nevertheless, take all the cheap shots you like at my silly blog. I can take it.
Also, can we stop with the "class" comments? I mean in both directions. I'm tired of my fellow Yankee fans blathering about class and pride, etc etc blah blah blah, and I'm tired of Sox fans acting as if it's been the Yankee players making these goofy claims to "class."
I remember listening to Brian Billick on talk radio after the Ravens visited the White House, the host asked why they went there in t-shirts and jeans while the Yankees had gone in suits. Billick paused and said, "Well, you've got to keep in mind that the Yankees are a class organization."
Man, I can't believe it took you guys 15+ comments and a confession to figure out IAITChampagne was kidding.
Deep breaths for everyone.
He wasn't posting under his normal handle, Cliff. I changed his handle.
What a totally assanine thing for someone to say. If Schilling is out there then anything short of obvious cheap shots are fair game, and bunting on him certainly is no cheap shot because it's a strategy manuever. People spouting off and saying dumb shit like that really pisses me off. It would be like the Miami Heat deciding not to run their offense through Shaq because he's such a matchup problem for their oppoenent that exploiting it is unsportsmanlike. I don't think dropping a bunch of bunts down is the right strategy if Schilling is throwing in the mid to high 80's again, but if the Yankees feel it's the right strategy then they should do it. Like Larry said, this isn't back yard baseball where you're just trying to allow everyone to have some fun. This is fucking game 6 of the ALCS, and you gotta do everything you can to win provided it's within the rules. Sorry for the long rant, but stupid shit like that really pisses me off.
"Judging by your blog that's likely a literal statement."
My secret shame!
But...no.
I agree wholeheartedly with the idiots here. When the Marlins had the audacity - the NERVE- to bunt on fat ass David Wells and gimpy Jason Giambi in the Series last year, I was never more disgusted. Have some balls. They should know that those guys couldn't play those. And I'm sure it contributed to Wells' back injury in game 5.
I hope you can tell I'm kidding here. In a somewhat related note, isn't Schilling the guy who threw a fit after a Padre bunted on him to break up a perfect game?
Anyway, looks like the Yanks aren't bunting anyway, and Schilling looks sharp. Dammit, the wind just blew a homer back in from Posada.
That's correct Jeremy, and I think it was a 2-0 game at that so getting the bunt hit brought the tying run to the plate. I could somewhat understand it (though not agree) if the score was out of hand, but it would seem pretty important to find a way to get a guy on late in a 2-0 game, perfecto going or not, if you're trying to win.
Hey Hudson,
you're an idiot
I was wrong. Yankees win tomorrow.
We are doomed. I've felt this way since game 4.
shoulda bunted at Schilling.
Torre was being a stand guy by not bunting. Bet those Red Sox fans are pleased at the Yankees sportsmanship.
Hey, I feel a lot better about losing because we were sportsmen. It was also very generous and sporting of Jeter to hack at the first offering to allow Schilling sufficient time to settle in and pitch well without taxing himself.
For some reason, I have a good feeling about game 7. I had a bad feeling for games 1 through 6, so take that for what it's worth. Regardless, we're going to see history, either another Boone or Dent or Carlton Fisk in 76 moment, or a Buckner or Pesky deal. History might not fall on our side, but we're going to see it first-hand (via the idiot box) and tell our grandkids all about it, God-willing.
Execution of this plan didn't go so well - sorry - but some good "Plan B" work by A-Rod trying to bring some actual cheating into the game.
Looks like the Yankees really bunted Schilling to death, huh?
And also, since Eliot brought it up I don't think what A-Rod did is any worse than someone barreling over the catcher trying to score. In fact, I'd say running over the catcher would be worse because that can result in an injury. Don't know for sure if the rule is actually written differently for what A-Rod did and running over the catcher, but I do know that a whole different set of rules are enforced at home as far as blocking the plate is concerned. Try that at any other base, and it's obstruction.
If they had bunted, perhaps Schilling would have complained about it like he did when his no hitter got broken up by a bunt.
Folks, it's just something that you do.
You take advantage of situations.
When a boxer knows a guy has a sore arm, he KEEPS HITTING IT. If a football linebacker knows the QB has a sore leg, they TRY TO HIT HIM IN IT.
When your opponent has a vulnerability, you exploit it.
Why do you think the Yankees injury reports are always so vague?
Why do you think people were pitching Giambi up and in last year?
That fact that not even ONE Yankee attempted a bunt is just stupefying. ESPECIALLY Jeter!
All's fair in baseball people, and I'm a Sox fan.
Still, I give props to the Yankees for not bunting, though I wouldn't have protested if they had. If Schilling wants to have staples put in his ankle and risk his career and ability to walk to go play (and I love him for it, the crazy man), then he has to be ready for whatever the opposite team is going to do, be it the Yankees or the Expos.
Calling the Yankees "low class" for a possible strategy is pretty shady in itself. A sad state indeed...
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