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I'd like to see gov't funded research to determine what can be done to stop global warming, and what methods would be most cost effective.
It'll probably be cheaper to put mirrors in space than to cut Carbon Emissions.
Lore_Weaver |
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03.14.08 - 11:57 am | #
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My biggest problem with emissions cuts is that it goes against the basis of our civilization: mass consumption, mass production, globalization, resource depletion. We would have to fundamentally change the way we do business on this planet in order to limit our damage to the environment. And that just isn't feasible if we also expect population and economic growth.
Raphael Alexander |
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03.14.08 - 12:01 pm | #
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Raphael...The Conservatives aren't going to give up the politically-useful tool of remaining part of Kyoto while completely uninterested in living up to its obligations, which they can do with little opposition.
It's working too well for them.
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03.14.08 - 12:15 pm | #
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We would have to fundamentally change the way we do business on this planet in order to limit our damage to the environment. And that just isn't feasible if we also expect population and economic growth.
And there is the reason for many of our environmental problems, not just 'global warming'. Actually, you can label me a 'climate change denier', as I really couldn't care less about it. However, I am concerned about other environmental and pollution issues.
Unlimited population growth around the world will cause all sorts of future problems. Surely we can work towards establishing an economy that can be sustainable (and even growing through technology improvments) with a stable population.
As long as population is growing indefinately, all environmental problems will expand, and changing lightblubs and using more public transit isn't going to do a damn thing to change it.
Dave Hodson |
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03.14.08 - 12:23 pm | #
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As long as population is growing indefinately, all environmental problems will expand, and changing lightblubs and using more public transit isn't going to do a damn thing to change it.
Agreed. I feel pretty much the same way.
Raphael Alexander |
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03.14.08 - 12:44 pm | #
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When it comes to the issue of climate-change, it’s hard not to recall the old maxim that “a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” It would be nice to see the Conservative government investing money into research focused on developing more efficient alternative energy technologies rather than pouring it into agri-business boondoggles like corn and soy based ethanol. Really… this particular venture is just absolutely insane. And, I might note, the Liberals’ position on this is even worse than that of the Conservatives!
Red Tory |
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03.14.08 - 12:51 pm | #
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I saw a great thing on CBC TV, about the sale of Alberta (oil sands)..what a dirty place! Don't tell me that doesn't need to be touched.. Countries are buying part of the tar sands and they do not care.
I guess none of you read about the Liberal environmental bill that mysteriously was cancelled by the Tories and was stronger than Baird's last one, Environmentalists said this week.
Elizabeth |
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03.14.08 - 1:11 pm | #
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Elizabeth - have you ever seen a documentary about the lands that were reclaimed after the oil was extracted from the tar sands?
Back to beautiful pristine forests and a repopulated and balanced eco structure.
Strange isn't it that THIS story is never told.
Have you ever seen an open pit coal mine? Or open pit diamond mines? ALL open pit mining is ugly while active.
Reclamation is the part of the processes that environmentalists NEVER admit to.
Lorraine |
03.14.08 - 1:41 pm | #
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Hi Raphael
I agree with you and Dave and Red Tory and Lorraine provides me with new information and highlights the pitfalls of being informed solely by the CBC.
The climate will change as it always has and overall I think that our best defense against this inevitability is a healthy environment. Energy efficiency and alternate power sources make complete sense without reference to climate change. If nothing else, it would be a lovely thing for the West to be free of the need for mid east oil.
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03.14.08 - 2:06 pm | #
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I do not believe in Koyoto at all. IMHO it is a complete sham and a shell game to boot.
I do believe we should be putting more emphasis on renewable resources, and natural energy sources (tidal, wind, and solar)... I wonder about the maintenance fees of solar verses nuclear? Perhaps it is a question of profit margin?
Those "carbon credits" are a complete fraud, and will remain so until some sort of oversight is put in place.
Alpha Male |
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03.14.08 - 2:28 pm | #
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Those "carbon credits" are a complete fraud, and will remain so until some sort of oversight is put in place.
The drawback there is that the "oversight" required to make the system effective would be regarded as odious by many people. If you have difficulties with the U.N. (which I do) then, some global agency managing the carbon credit system is going to be pretty difficult to swallow.
Red Tory |
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03.14.08 - 2:39 pm | #
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I share that difficulty with the UN. What a bunch of dysfunctional, self serving miscreants they are. Especially the Security Council.
Their collective sins are many, but that is another discussion altogeather.
Alpha Male |
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03.14.08 - 2:53 pm | #
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Off topic... RA I can not see your whole page for some reason. It stops at On Modern Warfare and Nation Building just above where the option to "read more" and comments etc would be.
Alpha Male |
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03.14.08 - 2:57 pm | #
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Kyoto is dead. Why waste another minute on it? It was never designed to actually do anything but marketing and it succeeded, forget about it now.
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philanthropist |
03.14.08 - 3:51 pm | #
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Off topic... I can see all again :D the world is good again!
Alpha Male |
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03.14.08 - 4:12 pm | #
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