document.write("<script language=\"javascript1.2\" type=\"text/javascript\">function emo_pop() {window.open('http://www.haloscan.com/commenthelp.php','Help','width=200,height=320,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes');}</script><table width=\"97%\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" class=\"MainTable\">  <tr>    <td>    <div align=\"center\">    </div>    </td>  </tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"16432\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3059c4e5c258ccf8880d12aaddbbc43b&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=32\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Isn't the whole point of Orthopraxy that it doesn't need to be defended intellectually?  That's like asking how to defend taking the scenic route home intellectually.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           JewishAtheist | <a href=\"http://jewishatheist.blogspot.com\" title=\"http://jewishatheist.blogspot.com\">Homepage</a> | 10.16.07 - 10:25 am | <a href=\"#16432\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"16445\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=8a1a62267a85b44e53883b46946a56b0&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=32\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />But I can defend taking the scenic route home. It increases my happiness, appreciation of nature, etc.<br><br>Orthopraxy has downsides that are hard to rationalize away.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Skeptodox | <a href=\"http://safkanut.blogspot.com\" title=\"http://safkanut.blogspot.com\">Homepage</a> | 10.16.07 - 11:37 am | <a href=\"#16445\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"16455\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=32\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Orthopraxy helps me get along with my family and friends.  They won't reject me for being krum and they'll still invite me to their simchas and kiddishes.  And my wife wouldn't be thrilled to know the truth, so I guess marriage benefits also exist.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Anonymous | 10.16.07 - 12:11 pm | <a href=\"#16455\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"16460\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=8a1a62267a85b44e53883b46946a56b0&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=32\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />I guess I should have said that on its own, Orthopraxy is pretty darn irrational.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Skeptodox | <a href=\"http://safkanut.blogspot.com\" title=\"http://safkanut.blogspot.com\">Homepage</a> | 10.16.07 - 1:04 pm | <a href=\"#16460\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"16472\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=32\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />there's different types of Orthopraxy. The first kind is Orthopraxy by choice. That's when the person enjoys the culture and heritage and does it without social pressure (this kind is rare). The second type is Orthopraxy dues to social pressure - marriage, parents etc. The majority fall into the later category<br /><span class=\"byline\">           B. Spinoza | 10.16.07 - 1:57 pm | <a href=\"#16472\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"16475\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=8a1a62267a85b44e53883b46946a56b0&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=32\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Good point, B. Spinoza. Incidentally, your point about the rarity of intellectual Orthopraxy is exactly why my \"Jewish Continuity Orthoprax\" friend mentioned in <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http://safkanut.blogspot.com/2007/10/orthopraxy-abounds-at-shabbos-table-or.html\">this</a> post is so interesting.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Skeptodox | <a href=\"http://safkanut.blogspot.com\" title=\"http://safkanut.blogspot.com\">Homepage</a> | 10.16.07 - 2:13 pm | <a href=\"#16475\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"16815\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ff40845482219a94a570ea0730782f3f&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=32\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />> Orthopraxy has downsides that are hard to rationalize away.<br><br>Every culture has downsides that are hard to rationalize away.  We don't approach life from a totally rational position.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           OrthoMonkey | <a href=\"http://orthomonkey.blogspot.com\" title=\"http://orthomonkey.blogspot.com\">Homepage</a> | 10.18.07 - 9:58 am | <a href=\"#16815\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr>    <td class=\"InputCell\">                  <br /><div style=\"margin: 0 auto; width: 125px;\"><a href=\"http://secretbuilders.com/ref?id=JSKIT\" target=\"_blank\"><img src=\"http://www.haloscan.com/images/secretbuilders.jpg\" width=\"125\" height=\"125\" border=\"0\"/></a></div><br /><div id=\"newcomment\"></div><form method=\"post\" name=\"addComment\" action=\"http://www.haloscan.com/comments/safkanut/5114032169738430430/\" target=\"_self\">        <p>    Name: <br />          <input name=\"name\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Email:<br />          <input name=\"email\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          URL: <br />          <input name=\"url\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Comment:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"javascript:emo_pop()\" title=\"Smiley and tag help\" target=\"_self\">?</a>&nbsp;<br />          <textarea name=\"addMessage\" rows=\"12\" cols=\"38\"></textarea><br /><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"subscribe\" id=\"subscribe\" value=\"1\" /><label for=\"subscribe\">Notify me of followup comments via email</label>        </p>        <p class=\"PSubmit\"><input name=\"submit\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Publish\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />&nbsp;<input name=\"previewMessage\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Preview\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />        </p>      <input type='hidden' name='user' value='safkanut' /><input type='hidden' name='comment' value='5114032169738430430' /></form>    </td></tr>  <tr>    <td><p align=\"center\">        Commenting by <a href=\"http://www.haloscan.com/\" target=\"_blank\">HaloScan</a></p>      </td>  </tr></table><img src=\"http://c5.statcounter.com/counter.php?sc_project=561713&amp;java=0&amp;security=01eeff58\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" /></body>");