Big Blue Wave's Comments

Gravatar Well, Suzanne, never let it be said that you don't speak plainly, LOL!


Gravatar I just went over to the Abortioneers blog site for a few minutes, just long enough to want to throw up.


Gravatar Yeah? So where are those "millions of dollars" going, exactly? 'Cause they sure aren't going to the women who need them.

Until you guys can come up with a comprehensive recipe that will actually help with the entire life of the woman -- and not just long enough to bring her pregnancy to term -- you don't have anything to offer. A bandaid on a gaping wound.

Not good enough.


Gravatar Janus, couldn't agree with you more. That has always been hasn't it: the irony; life seems to end at Birth. Sad really.


Gravatar Really? Then you don't really know what goes on a CPC or follow pro-life individuals activities very closely because the emotional and practical support lasts well beyond pregnancy or even the first year. Just another pathetic pro-choice stereotype and perception with no basis in reality.


Gravatar Abortioneers remind me of pimps who charge women for the sexual pleasures someone else had.


Gravatar Abortioneers remind me of pimps who charge women for the sexual pleasures someone else had.

Ken, Pleasures? You think a 12 year old girl forced into an incestuous sexcapades with her abusive father is having fun?

How about a rape victim, be it at knife point or had their drink laced with rufies: Was she having fun?

How about the woman who just stepped out of an abusive relationship with nothing but the clothes on her back?

How about the woman who's life may well be in danger if she attempts to carry to full term?

I could go on with the examples Ken...

So, Kenny, are these girls and women having fun in the above scenarios.


Gravatar CK

The men sure had pleasure, now didn't they?

Abortion is just as much as about liberating men from responsibility as it is liberating women from motherhood.


Gravatar The men sure had pleasure, now didn't they?

Yah, some may well have had pleasure, paid for by the woman or young girl's dime. Real Nice.


Gravatar Exactly.


Gravatar "Abortion is just as much as about liberating men from responsibility as it is liberating women from motherhood."

And what's wrong with that?

Why do you carry around this idea that you get to tell everyone else what their responsibilities are? Or what choices they're allowed to make? Why should anyone agree to take on a responsibility he doesn't want just because you say so? And what makes you think every woman needs to be a mother, even if that is not what she wants to be?

Why should anyone else in this world enslave themselves to your values?


Gravatar "Abortion is just as much as about liberating men from responsibility as it is liberating women from motherhood."

And what's wrong with that?

Why do you carry around this idea that you get to tell everyone else what their responsibilities are? Or what choices they're allowed to make? Why should anyone agree to take on a responsibility he doesn't want just because you say so? And what makes you think every woman needs to be a mother, even if that is not what she wants to be?

Why should anyone else in this world enslave themselves to your values?


Gravatar Why do you carry around this idea that you get to tell everyone else what their responsibilities are?

I don't make them up. They exist as an objective reality.

Why should anyone else in this world enslave themselves to your values?

They're not mine.

And everyone has to be moral. It's what humans must do both individually and collectively to insure the optimum development and greatest chance for happiness.


Gravatar "I don't make them up. They exist as an objective reality."

You didn't answer the question. Besides, there is nothing "objective" about this.

"They're not mine."

No? Do you not support them and agree with them?

"And everyone has to be moral."

Ah, but not everyone agrees on the the definition of "moral." Or what constitutes "happiness." Or how to achieve it.

And you only get to decide for yourself. You don't get to define them for me any more than I get to define them for you. The difference between us is that I don't want to try and you don't want to leave it alone.




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