Big Blue Wave's Comments
Um, I was unaware that the CUPE had passed a resolution against Jewish professors. If it had, you and this Werner person might have a point. As it is, you don't.
I guess the suffering of people in Gaza leaves you cold.
Whether or not the resolution has passed doesn't matter. What matters is the intent and the statement already made. Just the mere proposition of such a resolution should give rise to hate-crime charges.
You still don't have a point. Israeli is a nationality limited to Israel; Muslim is a religion practiced by millions of people in many countries around the world. Jewish people can also be found in many other countries than Israeland nobody is proposing that all Jews be censured (I can't believe I have to explain this; are you 12 years old or something?)
Your trumped-up hate crime accusations make you look ludicrous in the eyes of anyone using their brain.
Why should a person's views on the Gaza attacks have anything to do with whether he can work in a university or not?
In all likelihood, his views on the situation are completely irrelevant to what he's teaching.
And even if they are, so what?
Not only that, but you cannot condemn an entire nation of people simply because they are all the same nationality, in this case, Israeli. All Israelis do not think alike or vote alike or have the same politics just like all Canadians do not think alike or vote alike or have the same politics or opinions.
Nor can you condemn everybody in the union just because the leaders of that union are demonstable bigots, because most people who belong to unions only do so because they are not allowed to work otherwise and they have families to feed and mortgages to pay and credit cards up the wazoo.
Brebis
While it's true that "Israeli" and "Jewish" don't always coincide, just like "Arab" and "Muslim" often don't, it's a bit of a stretch to say it isn't targeted towards Jews-- particiularly Zionist Jews (who are the majority).
I agree that this shouldn't be the subject of a hate crime charge. I just think it's stupid.
What if the unions decided that professors had to renounce separatism to teach? Sure, it's not directly targeting French Quebeckers, but that's who would suffer, right?
I think this is counter-productive for Canadian students. What if an Israeli scholar happens to be the top expert in his field? How is depriving a student the chance to work with this person of any profit?
When I was in university, I had profs of all political persuasions. They were not chosen for their politics, but their expertise, and that's the way it should be.
This is simply a non-violent means of protesting war. It's similar to the position that Western governments once held against South African apartheid.
This is not about holding a different political viewpoint regarding Israel; it is about protesting attacks of vulnerable people who are living in dangerous situations.
It is indeed sad that Israeli professors could be penalised (some of whom may even question their own government regarding their treatment of Palestinians), but I think that in this case it is a strong condemnation of the unjust use of force. It's not about politics, and it's most emphatically *not* about a person's religious beliefs. Anyways, it's just a CUPE resolution, nothing to say it will actually happen.
Wait.
They're passing a resolution that they have no intention of acting on?
What the heck's the point?
How does a resolution protect people?
It doesn't.
It's unfair for Israelis to be deprived of job opportunities just because they don't agree with CUPE.
"but I think that in this case it is a strong condemnation of the unjust use of force. "
Condemn away. But why should a professor and the students suffer for it?
I'm sure there could be other ways to make one's views known.
And in any case, I don't think a union should be engaging in this kind of politics. A union should exist to protect the rights of workers. That's what unions should be for, not for resolutions that have nothing to do with the workplace.
Well, in the same vein you are using, why are you so worked up about a proposed CUPE resolution that doesn't affect your life and further, that hasn't even been voted on yet?
And why did you make the comparison between Muslims and Israelis in the first place if that's not what you meant?
"I guess the suffering of people in Gaza leaves you cold."
If only they could shoot more rockets at Israel their suffering would end.
LOL
Why doesn't Egypt have these reprisals they signed a peace treaty.
I think the socialists want to add national to their monicker.
And this is a hate crime!
[brebis noire] would be saying as much if it was a group the left likes this happened too.
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Frankly, SUZANNE, I'm surprised you haven't proposed such a ban yet, given how frequently you, Ken, Mark Steyn and the rest of the wingnutosphere spew unadulterated hatred of THEM.
Sorry dinosaur, but no name-calling in the comb box.
J.A.
What hatred of Islam?
I rarely touch the issue.
And I say many things that many progressives would agree with.
That is the second time in a week you've misrepresented my views.
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