Big Blue Wave's Comments
Nice researching Suzanne.
If only the medical profession were treated like any other business owners offering a service, we all wouldn't have to pay for elective surgerys like abortions. We need to move away from the collective thinking of medical associations into the area of competitive thinking.
"If only the medical profession were treated like any other business owners offering a service, we all wouldn't have to pay for elective surgerys like abortions."
Replace "medical" with "religious" and "pay for elective surgerys (sic) like abortions" with "subsidize churches and separate schools".
It's called "democracy", and that's how it works. We don't get to cherrypick what our taxes go to pay for.
"Gee, you don’t get that side from the pro-abort activists, do you?"
I call BS. I've said right here, several times, that late term abortion is tragic and often traumatic. Which is why women don't choose that option for any but the most dire reasons.
But thanks for making my point. Now finally we can put the phony "late term abortions for convenience" meme behind us, eh?
"It’s like saying: yeah, we’re really sorry you lost your baby, but we’re not going to legally recognize that. Isn’t that a slap in the face of women who lose their children through crime?"
Recognizing the loss isn't tantamount to recognizing the fetus as an individual, separate legal entity, which C-484 and its proposal for 2 separate charges would do.
Which is why women don't choose that option for any but the most dire reasons.
I don't believe that. "I don't want kids" is not the "most dire" reasons.
But thanks for making my point. Now finally we can put the phony "late term abortions for convenience" meme behind us, eh?
Even the Abortion Rights Coalition of Canada says that there are late-term abortions for "social reasons".
Just about ALL abortions are for convenience sake.
Recognizing the loss isn't tantamount to recognizing the fetus as an individual, separate legal entity, which C-484 and its proposal for 2 separate charges would do.
JJ: If you're not ready to back up that social recognition with legal recognition, that sympathy is fairly shallow. It shows that you're only ready to sympathize so far.
" It's called "democracy", and that's how it works. We don't get to cherrypick what our taxes go to pay for"
In a real democracy you can cherrypick what you want to support. If we did have true democracy you socialists would be out of business in a wink and we wouldn't be arguing about what is right or wrong. The money, or lack of, would do the talking.
Ken - Good point, it is not a true democracy by the purest definition of the word, where everyone gets a say (MMP voting would be closer to a real democracy).
BTW, I'm not a "socialist" by any stretch of the imagination. You may not like that, but too bad.
It seems to me the term pro-abortion is thrown around in the abortion debate in a most careless and misleading fashion as if there are people out there who want to kill developing babies just for the fun of it the way some farmers kill chickens.
I have never met anyone like that and I venture to guess they don't exist.
Most so-called pro abortion people are just as upset by abortions as so-called pro life people. The only difference is the former want to take into consideration the status of the mother.
Neil
Trust me. There are plenty of people in the world who think abortion is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Saying that proponents of legalized abortion are the "only ones" who take into account the status of the mother is misleading. If anything, pro-lifers say: let's love them BOTH.
People who favour legalized abortion do not. They do not even acknowledge the humanity of the unborn child, let alone his equality.
This is what separates the two sides of the abortion debate.
"Trust me. There are plenty of people in the world who think abortion is the greatest thing since sliced bread."
Bwaaahaahaahaa... "trust" you?? This (almost) unbelievable statement you make next (sliced bread) should be made into posters and bumper stickers - I can't imagine a more obvious sign that you are completely out of touch with reality!
And (of course) I agree with JJ - let's open the can of worms and start being more subjective about where public money is spent and how taxes are gained (wink wink)... I'd love to hear the cries from the churches as we tax the hell out of them! About bloody time!
It might be a good idea to remove all tax excemptions from all charities. That would include all the feminist/gay organizations who promote abortions.It would also all the environmental/animal organizations that plague us.
"It might be a good idea to remove all tax excemptions from all charities."
Does this include churches?
We could open a cold one and sit back and watch the churches close..... and be in heaven. 
"I don't believe that. "I don't want kids" is not the "most dire" reasons."
You have a right to your opinion, but just because *you don't believe it* doesn't mean your opinion reflects reality.
"Even the Abortion Rights Coalition of Canada says that there are late-term abortions for "social reasons"."
Linkie, please.
O/T -- You must be getting close... I hope you're feeling OK. At least your baby chose to arrive before the hottest part of the summer... a friend of mine is due in 8 weeks, poor thing, I already gave her my oscillating fan
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